^^Dat's what less fortunate among us tell themselves.

NGONGE...Feeling so benevolent eh, sadly your abrasive remarks shows the signs of belligerent braggart, but tanug you though for your candor,and the trouble of constructing apocryphal tale about Khalid. Khalid understands you have to do whatever is deemed necessary to assuage whatever a indulgent,egoistical self proclaimed intellect feels when faced with simple situations. Khalid would navigate through these threads on his own. His ideas might be amorphous, but he will ameliorate his condition instead of listening to NGONGE, a relic burdened with abtruse philosophy which I might add is beautiful and eloquently written, but lacks the ardor to inspire the Khalids of SOL. So comrade, get out of your walled utopian world, and pick up a gun.May be that will stir some passion that will augment your uninspiring stories. As for the discussion, I concur there is nothing that we could practically do about the incident,but we differ in our explanatations as to why these people violated the girls.

Hhmmm,Interesting, You are very doctrinaire in your writing.

Originally posted by Rahima: Dissapointed you say Che. Interesting! [/QB] Interesting how Rahima

Originally posted by Rahima: quote: ^^^ N you have. Maybe you are looking for manyar of diffirent sort. LOOOL Popcorn anyone? You just like starting trouble. Don't you. Just thought maybe there is dimension to Castro's " The relentless pursuit of sex and Minyar"

I could not agree with the author more. Pland needs to turn a new page, and not be decieved through fear mongering. The leadership lacks a vision, and the resourcefulness to make any progress. There won't be any favorable as long as the likes of Yeey and Cadde are in control. New ideas and new leadership are required, and Planders in diasporo could more to institute change. Political apathy as characterised by today's Planders will render Somali progress.

I could actually prove dat he is from Pland.

Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^^ Discussions don’t work that way, my sensitive friend. I have focused on what is going on here, if only you could just read. LoooL..Saaxib, You are so predictable in your answers...Sensitive Kulaa., and never mind how discussions work laakin I did read it, and all I saw was a man trying to defend or atleast minimise da inexcusable by arguing all humans succumb to their primal animalistic urges. Duqa, just condemn these ugly creatures,and drop "it could happen anywhere" mantric rant.

NGONE Says,"Somali ruffians would do the same thing to an Ethiopian girl without batting an eyelid." Have you actually seen any Somali doing that, not dat we are incapable of such actions. I don't know about today's Somalia, but Ethios (mainly Oromo and Eri) never faced such treatments da in Xamar I used to know. Let's focus on things dat actually occurred, not so much scenerios dat could happen.

Originally posted by Tyjwania: ^Would you like saanguwij and farej faraay with that? A bottle of Carib ram would be better in case we need to forget "things"

^^^LooL Iam sure Horn will tell us da shoes fit just fine MMA. How are dare you insulted the honorable Hiiraale

^^ first round of drinks on you then

^^^ N you have. Maybe you are looking for manyar of diffirent sort.

Seylac..Please refrain from Qabiil names. Nobody calls Somaliland by Qabiil name. We all refer to it by what it is general public would like to call it. Have some deceny, and extend the same courtesy to others.

Start with disfranchised and the young. Women are actually last to fall.

Is it just me or title of dis thread throw everybody off. One says "on the low", I thought people usually mean bisexual black men. So, I was like bisexual Somali gals.....Interesting, but very disappointed when I clicked on da topic. Onemangang.....They ain't older gals. Dats where you went wrong.These are women. Treated them as such. Of course nobody wants Magacooda suuqa lagaliyo man or woman.

Jinooley...Lets be business oriented.How about I loan you da money for your vac with .85 interest rate. Galool...I like da name Northerner... Dis guy I know was changing jobs. He was asking if one could roll over their 401K (retirment plan)to their new employer's plan or if he would be better off withdrawing the money from his account. Luckly I knew the basics about 401k, and advised him not to withdraw since there are penalties. Dis situation alone deserves a thread. We all have financial issues that they are not so clear to us. Iam pretty sure that there are some nomads in here that are well versed in these matters, and could explain more indepth in a language we could understand. The most common problem, alot of Somalis face is lack of credit history or just bad credit history. It would nice to have section where this and many more issues could be discussed and analyzed.

How many of you think the SOL forums should have a section dealing with issues regarding of finance and money. I think it would be a great to have a thread just dedicated to dis, and nomads could exchange ideas whether be about personal finance, employement, investing in markets, mortgages, etc. Show your support if you think this is good.

Well said Djib-Somali. The disturbing thing in all this is people who believe that salvation lies in the dismemberment of the old republic. What is oblivious to these people is the fact that these mini-states (Sland, Pland, and even Jabouti) face the same problems that devastated Somali proper, case in point, the reality that exists in today's Pland, essentailly family-run entity where corruptrion and nepotism prevails without any regard to the well being of the larger society. One could hardly anticipate any favorable change in the ways these people run these fiefdoms. A new and fresher minds with diffirent political outlook would be required for there to be any progress. These clan states which are heavily dependent on foriegn powers, and lack the ability to properly facilitate the needs of the people should be challenged. Saylac....Dhulkaaga Qof kugu haysta malaha. If I understood the article correctly, the man simply stating that should be healthy debate among parties since all Awdalites are not the same boat.

Welcome Duqa, Wat brings us together...Hmmmmmm I don't know, but We are Somalis, people who can't seem to stand each other yet can't stay away from each other. Maybe it is the just da sense of belonging dat draws us together.

Well written piece, not your usual antagonistic mantric rethoric.

Rahima....Come on, The poor man could have easily thought you own a coin-operated laundry shop or car wash, granted Hindida Waad dad iska Nacam, nacam ah. They take everything at face value specially during dat first encounter. Laakin Point taken though. I hate sarcasm at the teller line. Jimcaale....I probably would, but not without provoking her in some way. A good way to start a chit chat, wouldn't you agree ? Socod....Didn't think there was anything dat would bother you, but tanug you for bringing dat to my intention.

Tyjwania.... Apart from monetary rewards, the place is a Mecca for young professionals, and believe me, they ain't balding, or greying, little greasy maybe. MMA....Timojare Soomaali mucho qararac waaye. They never gave wat you want. Warsaan aa fiican kugo hayaan...I don't care sida fiican. Just give me wat I want. Don't mind supporting Mali bunisses, but atleast listen to the customer. Devil...Ceeb Jee, I don't wear them. I just take them of bodies Rahima....You show it off to everybody.

President pays tribute to Mahfouz Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has paid tribute to writer Naguib Mahfouz, who has died in Cairo at the age of 94. "Mahfouz was a cultural light... who brought Arab literature to the world," he said of the first Arab to win the Nobel prize for literature. He said the author expressed "values of enlightenment and tolerance". The Egyptian writer had spent the last months of his life in hospital after falling during a midnight stroll and injuring his head in July. His vibrant portrayal of the Egyptian capital in his Cairo Trilogy won the 1988 Nobel Prize for literature. US President George Bush has also expressed condolences, calling Mahfouz "an extraordinary artist who conveyed the richness of Egyptian history and society to the world". A White House spokesman said the author's work would "introduce his beloved Egypt to Americans and to readers around the world for generations to come". International recognition The writer had suffered health problems since being stabbed in the neck in 1994 by an Islamist extremist, angry at his portrayal of God in one of his novels. After that incident he was in hospital for seven weeks and suffered nerve damage in his neck, which limited his ability to write and caused his eyesight and hearing to deteriorate. Mahfouz's Nobel Prize brought international recognition to a man already regarded in the Middle East as one of its best writers and premier intellectuals. Egyptian writer Ahdaf Souief, who knew Mahfouz well, said the writer was a "massively important influence" on Arabic literature. "He was our greatest living novelist for a very long time," he said. "Mahfouz was an innovator in the use of the Arabic language. "He also embodied the whole development of the Arabic novel, starting with historical novels in the late 1940s through realism, through experimentalism and so on. "He single-handedly went through the whole development of the Arabic novel and made innovation possible for generations of writers after him." The Cairo Trilogy - Palace Walk, Palace of Desire and Sugar Street, all of which appeared in the 1950s - detailed the adventures and misadventures of a Muslim merchant family. The books introduced a character who became an icon in Egyptian culture: Si-Sayed, the domineering father who holds his family together. Controversy came in 1959 with the publication of the novel Children of Gebelawi. First serialised in Egyptian newspapers, it caused an uproar and was banned by Egyptian religious authorities on the grounds it violated Islamic rules by including characters who clearly represented God and the prophets. Nonetheless, it was published in Lebanon and later translated into English. Final work In a career that spanned decades Mahfouz published more than 30 novels, short stories, plays, newspaper columns, essays, travelogues, memoirs and political analyses. His final published major work - a collection of stories about the afterlife titled The Seventh Heaven - came in 2005. "I wrote The Seventh Heaven because I want to believe something good will happen to me after death," he told the Associated Press in December 2005. "Spirituality for me is of high importance and continuously provides inspiration for me." web page

Garoofka ku dhufo tii sii jaysata. Go somali on them.Dis reminds of Somali dude ( Asal reer Mudug) dat always speaks in English. I gotta da feeling, he does dat cuz he thinks it is cool. On serious note, Ajarkaa iska wado. Obviously, aviod the ones salaan kaa qaadin on da chance you ever run into them agian.