^^^True, but I get the feeling it is foregone conclusion that's gonna play itself out to horrifying end, and when it's all over, neither those that battled nor those of us are just bystanders would know why so many young men had to be needlessly sacrified. Talk about being the defective gene in the human race. We are simply pathetic!!!!

I guess he is ready for action

^^^I don't know about that Ninyahow. Odega Kismaayo suu uga baxa la yaabe.

^^^^I guess you are not from the States then.

LoL@Horn...I thought you would have come with better argument, not usual dismissive cunug baa tahay Somali rant. Disappointed yaaqeey. Anyway, i don't have to be well versed in Somali politics to know and understand the story. Believe me the plot is always the same. It is like Bollywood movie, just diffirent actors, but the same storyline. And nowhere I have said that you actually insulted any particular individual in the courts, I was merely referring to your dwindling support of their efforts to reclaim all Somalia. You stated that it wasn't the court's intentions to invade Kismayo, maybe so. It could have been an idea concocted by few men, and the courts were forced to live with the resulting aftermath, but the reality is that Kismayo is being held in the court's name today. And they will defend with all their men and resources. And according to you horn, the invasion of Kismayo has caused a shift in the delicate balance of the Somali clan politics in the South. There has been a delicate clan balance in Southern Somalia that had existed ever since the USC's fall in Gedo. The Entity from Mogadishu trespassed on that delicate clan balance with force and arrogance and any amateur would have known what the result would be and will be. Saaxib, What's delicate balance you speak of. Could it have been one where Hiiraale and his boys ruled supreme all over others. I think you are just more incensed the Barre and his boys were given the boot and less concerned with the court's misadventures that might plunge Somalia into another brutal civil war. And the sad thing here is that Barre could have avioded all this. He played his cards wrong and miscalculated his moves.He tried to play both camps by being part of the TFG whilst agreeing with the courts on many of the issues before us (most importantly foreign troop deployement). Neutrality isn't option in conflicts. Pick side and go your merry way. He is Somali warlord with vested interests in this conflict's outcome, the idea that he could play the neutral force is very dumb to say the least. laters comrade

^^^LoL@Kathmandu. Morgan Wax laga sheegi jiri. Kow Inadeerkiis oo ka daran aa yimid.

And who is gonna guarantee the likes of Hiraale and Qaybdiid won't return of the good old days of warlordism. TFG is advocating clan fiefdoms. Do you think Hiraale would relent control of Kismayo to the TFG if he recaptures the place.

Dadka beenta badan khayr malahay. i say dump his sorry a-ss.

LOOL@Horn.....I don't know what Jimcaale writes, but it is amazing to see how your mashxarad for the courts turned into a frown once they reached the gates of Kismayo. I didn't think you were just Qabiil supremist. Ayoub....interesting indeed. I would to hear him explain his sudden change.

I have already, but lets add Indhacadde to the hit list!!!

It is about the Benjamins. That's why I don't watch much of US Networks, despicable really. I remember when Katie Couric was coming to CBS. People were talking if she was cute enough, and would increase viewership. Heck, Iam just interested in facts.

Not too many really, but the question is what comes after. You take out of one these thugs, who would be the replacement?

^^^We have sizable Somali Bantu community in our state, and I have interacted with them through work, and were able to befriend few of them. They are indeed more patriotic. They are more attached to the land and felt real sense of loss from being kicked out of their lands. I think they are actually more Somali than those of us from the nomadic tribes (Maxaatiri Somalis). As for the Bantu term, I think they have adopted the term to illustrate their plight as persecuted group who were/are discriminated simply of their physical features. Somalis either call them by their Qabiil or by the term Jareer-Weyn.

^^^^^Duqa No worries. Makaaga bixin, just saying that killer would be the last thing I wanna be, but if it comes to that for us to regain our righful place in the world, then so be it. But violence should always be the last option, the very last.

I have seen Somalis marry all kinds of people, but it is pretty unique.Back home, families will disown their gals if they ever fancy a Bantu. Best of luck to them. Somali Bantus are pretty interesting people, and have alot of horrible stories to tell. Majority are hardworking, kind , and I gotta admit more patriotic that your average Somali.

Originally posted by me: pray to Almighty that we have somewhere safe to call home. I feel you Cambaro. You are right. Same here, wejst want our country back. It isn't too much to ask for is it? War Hadal badane haan buuxiyeey. That offer still on the table. We can take out the warmongers. This thing below has your name written all over.

Death is preferable to miserable existence. I understand what would drive a young Somali to a certain demise.Maybe he feels that he could contribute to greater cause, and salvage what's left of his dignity. As for me, Iam too much of coward to be killer, but then agian under diffirent circumstance who knows.

W/Calaykum. Didn't generalise walaal, and dat's why I only speak of my experience. Of course I realise not every Somali woman would have reacted the same way,but it is something in culture that nurtures for lack of better word Haruuf by girls towards their menfolk.

What makes you think that women would be better leaders?

Alle-Ubaahne...easy with habaar duco combo.

I don't know , but it might be the nature of Somali women to scorn Somali men. Something lights up in their head and turns them into little monsters. I remember one time I was with my brother on train. As we boarded the train, we saw this gal standing right across us. My brother glanced her way, and said "A/calaykuM". Big mistake, I have never seen someone change the face expression that fast (lighting fast..lol), such contempt on this woman's face. It was like we killed her father or violated her in some manner. You should have seen the look on my bro's face, and I started cracking up. Well that didn't help the situation.

War Horn...Seem very eager for some action. Didn't think the loss of Kismayo was gonna have this effect on you.

Booqashada markii hore maxaa udiiday. This is too little too late. Now they are just reacting the court's movement. Passive existence doesn't win or guarantee peace. They should have doing this two years ago when they had the support of the majority of the people. They have been turning screws on the warlords, and be proactive. I say your time is up, move over now. Oppurtunity doesn't knock twice!!

I understand where you are coming from and I wouldn't encourage political apathy. It is what get us where we are today. Having said that, the more you educate yourself about politics, the more discouring it seems, but it is very important to make your voices heard as the candidates will only listen to those that immerse and take interest in their campaigns. And this is where Somali Community Centers should step in and educate voters (atleast those with limited language skills) about the issues and the men/women running for offices.

Coz like any society we have own degenerate characters. We are not any better or worse than any other society.