Good news but Puntland should be doing this more often. eh. Puntland should also consider executiion as a punishment considering they have filled out the prisons. 11,000 comments in this article, cajjib, talk about a tarnished reputation.

"Landers" is what they call themselfes now eh How about Somalistan ( which means land of the Somalis), they can then call themselfes stanners. Tol la'aay@ war habar maa tahay

The seccessionists are pretty ardent in their defence of their non-existant enclave today Alshabaab mala maqlay, they become radical. The article is stuff and nonsense. Maadey@ So you hope to take the jihad to the north west via the scc lets see if you can get through Ahlah sunna first and then.... You have a long way to go my friend.

Ethiopian Somali war Colonel Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys a Fidel Castro of Somalia. Ahmed and Hassan Dahir Aweys faced with formidable coalition of warlords supported by the United States and Ethiopia but they were able crush them with the popular support of the Somali masses. There are some humor aspects to do this. I guess i tried my best to keep the thread pro Shariif

Haatu It must be your swahilli accent. You would have nothing against 3/4 of the Minessota male Somali population that managed to get employed, masha allah.

Im serious but Thanks for you contributions Duke nevertheless, not everyone has the same views as you and the whole topic was about his past. And about Abdullahi Yusuf, im sure you considered him somewhat a legend in another thread.

How about posting your own legend Duke Colonel Yeey and Attaturk, im sure you could contribute that way. And give us a summary on the legacy he left behind, this is the type of thread you can do such a thing. Thanks.

Thats it for this thread lads. I hope you enjoyed it.

Originally posted by General Duke: For the first time, I must agree with Oodweyne, this makes no sense at all.. Also why insult Che? I think he was an inspiring person and a revolutionary, i dont care if you dont like him. First Somali president

D/P

Originally posted by Oodweyne: ^^^I do not know whether it had occurred to you but this absurd drivel that you have posted in here could only be "understood" ( at least in terms of it's proper intended function ) if it had come with a "warning sign" saying that this is a "parody" ; and therefore it ought not to be taking seriously by anyone, indeed.... :rolleyes: Shall i post Ibrahim Egal?

Adan Hashi Ceyrow the leader of Alshabaab that was killed in the airstrick not so long ago. is without doubt another revolutionary.

Sheikh shariif masha allah in the future for his effort in bringing 6months peace and governance to Somalia, the ICU which he led defeated a collection of clan warlords which had Somalia in a status quo for 15 years. His legacy can even be seen today as clan warfare isnt as issue as before. His skillfull negotiations, his call for peace should rank him alongside greats such as Yusuf, Barre, Sayid Abdullah Muxammed, Ahmed Gragn and others im going to post. Some of the ones maybe infamous or even criminals but they all wanted all pursued the best for Somalia.

The new UIC jittered the foundation of Mogadishu warlords, who jumped hoops to cajole Washington’s deep pockets for anything labeled “anti-terrorism.” Before we knew, the CIA was bankrolling a new, unprecedented alliance, aptly called “The Alliance for Peace and Counter-terrorism.” It was doomed alliance. The UIC, under the deft leadership of Sh. Ahmed, crushed the warlords to near death, and pacified Mogadishu for the first time in 16 years. UIC removed nearly 300 roadblocks around the country, re-commissioned Mogadishu International airport and seaport, all the while extending its hand to the Baydhabo-holed Transitional Federal Government (TFG.) In the process, Sh. Ahmed, 43, was often referred to as the “moderate face of the UIC” in the Western media. Indeed, he developed an aura that appealed to all walks of the society, including his enemy. He’s famous for his superior oratory skills and negotiation capacity. Simply, he might be the best leader Somalia has ever known. His tenure was ended last week with Ethiopia’s invasion of Somalia, while helping the Transitional Feferal Government. Hiiraan Online recognizes Sh. Sharif Sh. Ahmed as the person of the year 2006, not only for his magnanimous personality, but for spearheading a fledgling, non-monolithic group, which, at times, overstepped its powers, and, at other times, underestimated its enemies. Whatever the cause of failure of the UIC maybe, Sh. Ahmed epitomized peace for six historic months in Somalia, where he captured the stage by every stretch of the imagination. Without him, Mogadishu, dotted with the tanks of Somalia’s once arch enemy, fear and confusion is lurking in the minds of its embattled residents, as a new chapter of their live opens, rather precipitously.

The son of pious a father, Sh. Ahmed mastered the Qur’an and Islamic theology at puberty. He later studied law at a Libyan university. He was barely known beyond Jubba high school, where he taught geography and history during late 1990’s to early 2000. At some point, a valedictorian student of him was kidnapped by one the nefarious Mogadishu warlords for ransom. Aghast by this action, he assembled a force that successfully freed the student. This victory provided him a daring conviction that he could put a squeezing halt on the notorious kidnapping-for-ransom business in the CC neighborhood, where he lived and worked. He was elected to head the Islamic Court of CC, which soon annihilated the organized gang activity in Towfiiq. Sh. Ahmed realized that all organized gang and warlord activity could be curbed with courage and conviction. He embarked on an audacious plan to improvise a unified umbrella for more than the 30 individual Mogadishu Islamic courts, operated by distrustful clans. Thought to be impossible, he detached almost all Islamic courts from their clans and amalgamated them into a new force, dubbed “The Union of Islamic Courts (UIC.)” http://www.hiiraan.com/news2/2007/jan/hol_person_of_the_year_2006_sheikh_sharif_sheikh_ahmed.aspx Hiiraan 2006 person of the year

What is the relationship between Ernesto Guevara de la Serna the Argentinean born doctor and the Somali born lawyer and teacher Sharif Sheikh Ahmed? Che was a revolutionary, the iconic socialist figure who championed the right of the working people and peasants all over the world. Ernesto Che was trained as a doctor while Sharif Sheikh Ahmed was trained as a lawyer, they both traveled widely before they chose their perilous social revolution over comfortable careers. Ernesto (Che) Guevara saw the blight of the indigenous Indians and the poor in Latin America and that changed his conscience to become a revolutionary leader that led him to the mountains of Sierra Maestra in Cuba with Fidel Castro and overthrow of the Batista government and later into Bolivia where he was murdered. Similarly, Sharif Sheikh Ahmed saw the blight of the Mogadishu people, abandoned, raped, murdered, tortured, looted, and kidnapped daily and that changed his conscience to become a revolutionary and change agent that led him to team up with brilliant military strategist and veteran of the Ethiopian Somali war Colonel Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys a Fidel Castro of Somalia. Both men faced an incredible opposition. Ernesto (Che) Guevara with Fidel Castro faced Batiste government supported by the United States of America and the rich land owners of Cuba but they were able to defeat them with the help of the popular support of the Cuban people. Similarly, Sharif Ahmed and Hassan Dahir Aweys faced with formidable coalition of warlords supported by the United States and Ethiopia but they were able crush them with the popular support of the Somali masses. Ernesto (Che) Guevara was a socialist with a deep conviction of right and wrong, he was concerned about the poor people and the exploited; similarly, Sharif Sheikh Ahmed is driven by the same conviction of right and wrong. He is concerned about the blight of the poor and exploited minority communities. For example Sharif Ahmed few days ago went to Dubai and asked the Somali Business men to lower the astronomical price they are charging to the average people and the poor. He cancelled the racist policy that gave the minority communities a smaller share of the parliament. He announced all Somalis are equal referring to the 4.5 division given to the minority tribes of Somalia while the dominant tribes get 5 shares. He asked the UN and NGO’s to distribute the aid food they are hoarding in storages. It will be too early to predict the outcome but if history is any guide, the people of the Che always win even if the Che’s are killed by foreign enemies.

Originally posted by Haatu: ^ War stop calling everything anti Puntland. I've got nothing against P/land. It's just Faroole. I don't like him personally. Besides, Riyaale is doing a fantastic job in keeping the nation one, don't you think? Why dont you like the guy personally Haatu, did you get into a fistfight with him while he was a taxi driver.

^ Im pro Somaliweyn by the way, ha igu keyniin Somalilandm Tuujiye, this thread is in a mess hadaba, something clearly went wrong.

Double post.

Tuujiye explain yourself to those offended, immediately! :mad:

Tuujie!! Bro, how is the topic shuban, im not blaming since youve answered my question. But please dont badmouth the topic; its far better than the daily mindless stuff posted in the general section. Jacaylbaro is notorious for ruining threads.

Peace in the region could also be advanced as the idea of Greater Somalia threatens not only Somaliland but also the whole region. The Greater Somalia “constitution” did not recognise the borders with the neighboring countries like Ethiopia, Kenya and so the recognition of Somaliland is also to the interest of IGAD. Re-creating a Greater Somalia could destroy the stability and peace in the Horn of Africa. I would suggest Igad and the African Union to actually do whats ultimately in their members interests and that is close the lid on Greater Somalia and that is dismember Somalia while they still have the chance, Before its too late. Once Somalia gets out of its dormant state, the power insha allah will be in the hands of the people and patriots. And they will reclaim the stolen lands even if it means setting the region into fire and in abbyss. So long as Somali lands occupied, The concept of greater Somalia will not be lost. This message applies especially to Abbysinia.

I think this is something good to mention from the article, not remarkable by international standards but still good. Economist reports that stateless Somalia outperforms in GDP per person(and therefore presumably in standard of living) the neighboring states of Ethiopia and Eritrea! (“A Hint of Hope”) I think sadly though much of this wealth is most likely concentrated in the North - west and North east. THe standard of living in the North must be among the best in the Horn or even East Africa.

The country teems with „poets‟... Every man has his recognized position in literature as accurately defined as though he had been reviewed in a century of magazines–the fine ear of this people causing them to take the greatest pleasure in harmonious sounds and poetic expressions, whereas a false quantity or prosaic phrase excites their violent indignation ... Every chief in the country must have a panegyric to be sung by his clan, and the great patronize light literature by keeping a poet. (Burton 82)