"Don't cry like a woman for Issue you couldn't defend like a man" You are so sexist, aren't you? Clan can't be a nation Clan can't be a nation... I don't remember the last time that was validated as being true? Had anyone proven it? Anyways, lets move on... Abdilaahi Yusuf, who on his right mind is gonna vote for this man?

I am Also somali Land citizen Congratulations... now where were we? :confused: ah yes! Abdilaahi Yusuf and Addow... lets move on.

Just don't come foodley things when you are grown up person with beard!! :eek: :eek: Getting personal eh! with references to facial hair... speaking of hair, I thought hair grows also in other places. YOU CAN'T DROP WHAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE IT!!.. IS THERE SUCH SOMALILAND CITIZEN!! I doubt!! Somaliland citizens, well, I am one. :cool:

Naah, he aint my real uncle. My dad tought me to call elders if they somali adeero or eedo., if they are Arab abti or habyer. When I was 6, my father called me Odey, I think I know what he meant now. Isn't it better to be called an Odey then, say, ciyaal? :cool:

The dude is 69 I pitty Africans leaders, "retire" is never in their dictionary. But, Abdiliaahi Yusuf is unique, this is a man who spent most of his 69 years behind the barrel of the gun, killing, murdering and shedding blood. If he loses, where will he be in the history books? OG_Girl YEP... you are somali citizen from Somalia.. So, I am a Somalia citizen; ok fair dinkum! drop Somalilander citizen... drop it? naah, I didn't drop it when I took my Australian citizenship. I am just gonna add to my long list of citizenships. But nice talk, now you can't tell me that I shouldn't interfere in Somalia's politics or is it?

ama dhuus ama haa dhuusin, the new president will become a Somali called Cabdulahi who's from Mudug region How old is this man btw? Can he be a president for, say, 10 more years? There is Law in Somalia and was signed 1964 saying " Every Somali from Oggadenia and NFD" are somali citizens and time any where in this planet. here we go... so you are saying, since my clan also settles in kilka-5aad, I am automatically granted a Somalia's citizenship? If that was the case, then you are no more Somalia citizen then I am, is that correct?

But If you want to opposite keep your hate agenda away. We want a nation , a goverment Hate is a strong word to use in an election campaign. "Anti" would be a better suffix. some one knows Intenational Law and politics Anyways, what makes you think, since you are from Qabridahare, that you can (in essense) have more rights in this vote then me? At least, I once used to be part of Somalia. What are your links, in terms of international law and politics? PS I asked of "when" not "where"... like Dayrtii malmelnayd, Abaarti Dabodheer etc

I think Awdal and Hargeisa are gonna continue from where they left off... but they could have a rematch, still not clear. Since Hargeisa and Awdal are into the second round no matter what happens in the delayed match, it is a matter of how they fare against the Group A qualifiers. A really good match to watch would be Awdal vs Togdheer. There is a new ravalry between the two.

I think Awdal and Hargeisa are gonna continue from where they left off... but they could have a rematch, still not clear. Since Hargeisa and Awdal are into the second round no matter what happens in the delayed match, it is a matter of how they fare against the Group A qualifiers. A really good match to watch would be Awdal vs Togdheer. There is a new ravalry between the two.

You would have a word if you did not say I am not from Somalia but Somalilander citizen!!! still, that would not disqualify me from lobbying against a particular candidate. Btw, according to my old man, I was born in Gug'gii maadhiin ku ciyaare... when was yours?

Somalia needs a man. Somalia needs someone who understands its ghosts, fears and nightmare, Somalia needs a strong man, Somalia needs a technocrat, Somalia needs a man who can fight when need be, and bring peace when situation demands, Somalia needs a MAN. Vote for Abdillahi Yusuf. Who is Abdilaahi Yusuf? Without accusing him of anything that he is not, let me rap it up. * A man who has washed his face with Somali blood, particularly his close kin's blood. * A man who went on national TV in Rome and declared his people to be bombed * The Italian rep. to Somalia once said: "I am more Somali than Abdilaahi Yusuf" * A man known to do whatever to remain in power * A known criminal who killed Sultans and Sarkaals alike. Should I go on? So, the question now is, does Somalia need a man with such a background?

no bigie togdheer should still qualify and thrash eighter hargeisa or awdal in the final Togdheer may catch the first bus home, had Sanaag beat Saaxil 3,0... or 4,2. Group A is a tough one, don't underestimate reer Sanaag.

no bigie togdheer should still qualify and thrash eighter hargeisa or awdal in the final Togdheer may catch the first bus home, had Sanaag beat Saaxil 3,0... or 4,2. Group A is a tough one, don't underestimate reer Sanaag.

With all due respect Suldaanka does it not bit sound as if we are landing on Somali I just hope we will land on Somali soil My point is Suldanka we existed 4 days before the south as an independent nation and we were Somalis We are still Somalis... nothing changed, we are just being more specific. Which Somalis? Somalilanders, of course. the term Soomaalileyn was coined by the south maybe Somalileyn, but Somaliland is the name of the country. By being Somali Suldaan it does not all diminsh my statehood neither creates a reason for me to be part of a union which I created and later parted with it for the interest of generations to come. of course, that is why I am perfectly ok with both terms. The only difference is that, one is just more specific and to the point then the other. OG_Girl If one of them went there and sattle down without having any clan connection ..ofcourse that person wont be home owner as is nomad from Badeyah!! Will be somalilander citizen ?? There are certain rules and regulations that govern who is a Somalilander and who is not. What is the use of borders unless they are there to seperate politically between countries. In relation to this problem, in theory, they are not Somalilanders, But in reality who can tell? I mean it has always been difficult to associate Somalis to a particular region of origin. This problem will remain, as long as there are no proper population identification system and there is weak border controls.

The story thus far: Group A Sanaag,Togdheer, Saaxiil Group B Awdal,Sool,Hargeisa First round results Awdal vs Sool (3,0) Sool vs Hargeisa (0,4) Hargeisa vs Awdal (1,1) half time-- match delayed by rain Sanaag vs Togdheer (0,3) Togdheer vs Saaxil (1,2) Saaxil vs Sanaag

The story thus far: Group A Sanaag,Togdheer, Saaxiil Group B Awdal,Sool,Hargeisa First round results Awdal vs Sool (3,0) Sool vs Hargeisa (0,4) Hargeisa vs Awdal (1,1) half time-- match delayed by rain Sanaag vs Togdheer (0,3) Togdheer vs Saaxil (1,2) Saaxil vs Sanaag

lol@JB No, I am not sure... you confused me more sxb... Sxb, this is a question of nationality and not ethnicity. There is a quite a difference between the two. Ethnically, the people of Somaliland are Somalis, but nationality-wise, they are Somalilanders. Just think of Iraq, Kuwait, Syria etc, the people of these countries are ethnically Arabs, but nationality-wise they are Iraqis, Kuwaitis, Syrians respectfully. If I say, I am a Somali from Somaliland, is the same as saying "I am a Somalilander". that is according to my limited understanding anyways. How do they know I was there before 26 june 1960?? Every one can claim It is not as hard a job as you thought my dear. The term used "resident" is talking about long time residents or homeowners, not people on transit or lived in there temporarily.

JB I think the link below will be of some help to your query. Somaliland Citizenship Law(English) Xeerka Jinsiyadda Somaliland (Soomaali)

It is the newspaper that stated he will be sworn in. Nothing wrong with that... I never seen anyone who won the lottery before the numbers were drawn?

Hello Rahima Speaking of shariica and Islamic economy, the reason why it is very hard to have such is that in today's modern paper money is totally haram, as some scholars have found. The reason is that, in the old Islamic money, the value of the money was fixed. Say, for example, during the Caliphate, you worked and earned enough money that could buy you 6 camels, that same money if you leave it under your pilow for the next ten years, will still buy you the same 6 camels. But in modern "paper money", say you worked enough money that could buy you 6 camels, in 10 years time, that same money will buy maybe 1 or 2 camels. What happened to the other 4 camels?? That is where it becomes haram. In today's money, the real value of the money is not in the money at all, the real value of your money is held somewhere in New York or London. But in the Islamic money, the real value of the money in the in the money, so that money will always have the same value no matter how many years you kept it in your pocket.

Invasion of Somalia a boon for big oil By Norm Dixon Four giant US oil companies stand to make a killing in Somalia if US troops can pacify the strategic African nation, the Los Angeles Times has revealed. The report further undermines US claims that the invasion was a “humanitarian mission†rather than one to defend US military and economic interests in the region. The report, which appeared on January 18, revealed that almost two-thirds of Somalia was allocated to the oil giants Conoco, Amoco, Chevron and Phillips by the pro-US dictator Mohamed Siad Barre. Barre was overthrown in January 1991. It seems a significant motive behind the decision of US President George Bush, a former Texas oil magnate, to send troops to Somalia may have been protecting the oil industry's multimillion-dollar investments there. The LA Times revealed that Conoco, the only major multinational corporation to maintain a functioning office in Mogadishu since 1991, allowed its Mogadishu corporate compound to be transformed into the de facto US embassy before US Marines landed in the capital. The president of the company's subsidiary in Somalia served as the US government's volunteer “facilitator†before and during the intervention. “They sent all the wrong signals when [uS special envoy Robert] Oakley moved into the Conoco compoundâ€, an expert on Somalia who worked with one of the four companies in the late 1980s told the LA Times. “It's left everyone thinking the big question here isn't famine relief but oil -- whether the oil concessions granted under Siad Barre will be transferred if and when peace is restored. It's potentially worth billions of dollars, and believe me, that's what the whole game is starting to look like.†According to Thomas O'Connor, principal petroleum engineer for the World Bank, who headed a three-year study of the oil prospects in the Gulf of Aden, off Somalia's northern coast, Somalia's oilfields have “high [commercial] potential ... once the Somalis get their act togetherâ€. In 1991 a World Bank-coordinated study, geologists put Somalia and Sudan at the top of the list of eight prospective commercial oil producers. In 1986, Conoco, Amoco, Chevron, Phillips and, briefly, Shell obtained exploration licences for northern Somalia from Siad Barre's government. Somalia was carved up into concessions, with Conoco, Amoco and Chevron winning the right to explore and exploit the most promising ones. The companies' interest in Somalia was sparked by the mid-'80s discovery of an estimated 1 billion barrels of oil across the Gulf of Aden in Yemen. Geologists believe those reserves are part of a great field that extends into and across northern Somalia. The Yemeni operation now yields nearly 200,000 barrels of oil a day. Then vice president George Bush was on hand to officially open the Texas-based Hunt Oil Corporation's refinery in Yemen in April 1986. In his speech, which concluded a 10-day Middle East tour, Bush stressed “the growing strategic importance to the West of developing crude oil sources in the region away from the Strait of Hormuzâ€. The Strait of Hormuz controls access to the Persian Gulf and its vast oil reserves. United Press International reported soon after: “Throughout the course of his 17,000-mile trip, Bush suggested continued low [oil] prices would jeopardise a domestic oil industry `vital to the national security interests of the United States', which was interpreted at home and abroad as a sign the one-time oil driller from Texas was coming to the aid of his former associatesâ€. Since the US invasion of Somalia on December 9 little has been said in public about Somalia's potential for oil and natural gas production.