laa xaawla walaa quwah... this is truely sad. :mad: Axmaqsanaa oo arxandaranaa Even the Amazon jungle doesn't get logged like that.

Caliyoow Dabuubtaadi gabay Daayinkaa wadaye Dabaylaha xagaagee Dafliyo Daafigaa sidaye Noo Dooji Doogiyo sidii Dararta xolaaye Diirkiyo laftuu xulay hadduu hadal wax Daaweyne Dadkana uma sinnee reer tolkay Dacar ku nooleeye Oldman Baashaaw, Awoowe, I can see you are having a hard time swallowing it, can I offer you caano geel ama biyo cad? kee kuula soo ordaa. The East African - is a prominent African publication.

I have opposed the secetionist and the warlords no more than they have opposed unity. I am from Puntland however have a large family in Mogadishu. Opposing the warlords and supporting Col. yey? what an irony!! Duke, weren't you supporting your warlord through thick and thin even when he was slaughtering Puntland people in Bari region after he clearly lost to his rival? Weren't you supporting your warlord when Abdiqasim was calling for this unity and national government that you are yearning of now? Mr. Duke, give us a break sxb. oo wax isku fal. Every warlord has someone just like you, who will be supporting him through good days and bad days. Now what is the sollution? I don't think making some warlords as "good" when they are supporting you, and "bad" when they are not, is gonna be a solution. The solution, as far as I can think of, is for you and your kind to come out and say "Yes, we are all warlord supporters, we are all distant cheerleaders, lets all continue that and agree on something"... then whatever that "something" is whether its continueing the killings, rapings, or chopping down tree, whatever it is, go ahead. That way, you will not be a hypocrite but at least you'll be an honest supporter of his favourite warlord. C'mon Duke!

Markab sida 400,000 oo kiish oo dhuxul oo ka shiraacday Baraawe Muqdishu, Feb 23, 2006 ( WDN) - Dekeda magaalada Baraawe ee gobolka Shabeelaha hoose, ayaa maanta waxaa ka shiraacday markab weyn oo laga leeyahay wadanka Imaaraadka carabta oo sida afar boqol oo kun (400,000) oo kiish oo dhuxul ah. Markabkan oo lagu magacaabo Rin Dubay ayaa dhuxushan u iib gey naya magaalada Dubay ee xarunta ganacsiga Imaaraadka carabta, ayadoo dhuxusha markabkan uu qaadayna ay muddo sanad ah ku xayirnayd magaalada Baraawe oo uu gacanta ku hayo Sh. Yusuf Indho Cade. Dhuxushan maanta laga dhoofiyey magaalada Baraawe ayaa qeyb ka ah dhuxul baaxad weyn oo laga soo xaalufiyey keymaha waa weyn ee ku yaalla gobolada Bay, Bakool iyo Shabeelaha hoose oo haatan ay ka taagan tahay abaaro ba'ani. Dhoofinta dhuxushan oo si xad dhaaf ah uga socota qeybo fara badan oo dalka ka tirsan, ayaa kusoo aaday xili qeylo dhaan ay kasoo yeereyso ururada ka shaqeeya ilaalinta deegaanka. Ayadoo markabkan maanta uu ka shiraacday magaalada Baraawe ayaa hadana waxaa kuso xirtay markab kale oo agab ganacsi kusoo dejiyey magaalada Kismayo, kaasi oo doonaya in dhuxul uu ka qaado degekaasi Baraawe. Inta badan ganacsatada Soomaaliyeed ee dibada wax u dhoofisa ayaa si weyn uga macaasha dhuxusha laga soo xaalufiyo keymaha dalka, taasi oo haddii aan loo istaagin wax ka qabasheeda aynu keerto dhibaato deegaaneed. Maxamed Cumar Aden WardheerNews, Muqdishu

"It remains to be seen whether the Baidoa session will indeed take place and, if so, whether any major groups opt to stay away. Parliament must not only convene and agree on an agenda, but continue to meet until the foundations for fulfilment of the transitional charter have been put in place." Matt Bryden Starting Over in Somalia: How to Break the Cycle of Failure

^LOL Qosolbadana Masaakiinta ayaa ka faaidaysanaysa daa. Markuu gadhku yara baxo dhinaca warlords ha tagaan, marka shaarubuhu ku yara dheeradaana dhinaca wadaadada.

Nin naccas ahaa ayaa bari-hore la yidhi wuu lumay, maalmo ka bacdi ayaa sidii loo baadi goobayay la helay isagoo geed iska hoosjiifa oo fotadda farta kula jira. Waa lagu wada farxay isagoo nool in lasoo helo. Intuu sare u kacay ayuu yidhi "Maxaa la igaga farxi, baritooleba sow lumimaayo"... Very wise man for a fool. now sxb, consider repeating yourself the day after...

Originally posted by rudy: nw aint nothing to me! whats it to u? Sxb what are you talking about? I asked Who is this "we"? that you said will change the AU's name into your chosen one. And how do you think they had been misled?

^^ Human trafficking:Genocide against the weak (Main culprit: Puntland) :mad: Desertification:Slow Genocide against the animals and the nomads (Main culprit: those who operate Bosaso and Kismaio ports and provide a gateway to export shiploads of freshly chopped trees) :mad: Toxic Waste:Genocide against the fish and the fishing communities (Main culprit: Warlords including Col. Yey) :mad: Armory/Mines:Genocide against the common Somali man (Main culprit: those in charge of Bosaso Port) :mad: Mr Museveni: "What is happening in Somalia is genocide in slow motion" source This is real and its happening in your own backyard Mr. Orgiliqe.

we should change the name AUm to African union misled Who is "we"? And how had they been misled? SOO MAAL What is "Northwest"? :confused:

In the old days, the nomads used to say kul fitna cinda geel, thesedays its more like kul fitna cinda dhul. More people in Somaliland died from land related disputes than any other cause. I think the local newspapers should start having a "Land Toll" like we have "Road Toll" in Western countries. That would put things in perspective, wouldn't it? :rolleyes: Anyways, I like the new phrases that this issue gave birth to like "Markhaati Beenaale" - a person who will swear on behalf of you while in court that the piece of land belongs to you, when it isn't. And Ku Qabso Ku Qadimayside - just claim it, you won't go empty handed. :eek: I don't know if you guys watched Maguuraan, but there was a scene in one of the sequels, I think sequel 3 or 4 (not sure), about an old man who owned a farm on the outskirts of Hargeisa. Another man, a long lost neighbor who knew that the farm belonged to the old man, comes along and claims the farm as being his. The issue goes to a lengthy court. The determined heartless other man, does everything that he can including bribing the judges, so that a dicision goes to his favoure. And it eventually does. :mad: But the sad thing was what the old rightous man does on the day when he was handing over the keys to the farm to the heartless man. The old man brings along an empty sack and fills it up with sand from his farm and then strugles to carry it on his back. The heartless man, bewildered by this, comes to the oldman and asks why he would want to carry a sack full of sand all the way to his home which is about 20Kms away. The old man replies "Aaakhiro waxa tunka aad ku qaadi doonta beertayda waxa ciid yaala oo dhan" (or something to that effect). The heartless man begins to melt with emotions after witness the hardship the oldman is going through carrying that heavy sack. Crying, he calls out load that the farm WAS NOT HIS, BUT IT BELONGS TO THE OLD MAN. It is a scene from a Somali film, not a reality. but things like that do happen.

Alaya Raxma raxmiin ilaahay danbigiisa ha dhaafo, eheladii iyo qoyski u ka tagay ha ka jazaai siiyo. Amiin.

AU supports Somali split - Mail&Guardian Jean-Jacques Cornish Hopes of recognition for Somali-land’s 15-year independence have been raised by the favourable report of an African Union mission that visited the territory last year. The report, a copy of which the Mail & Guardian has obtained, comes at a time when signs of a new flexibility in African thinking on boundary issues are emerging. It suggests that official African aid be tapped by this country of 3,5million people that was effectively destroyed by the Somali dictator Siad Barre. With the fall of Barre in 1991, the former British colony broke its union with southern neighbour, the former Italian colony of Somalia. Since Barre’s departure, Somalia has been without an effective government. But Somaliland has pulled itself up by its bootstraps. It has had a referendum to adopt a democratic Constitution and has organised presidential and parliamentary elections. Independent international observers have endorsed all of these. The Organisation of African Unity refused to recognise Somaliland’s independence, citing the maxim that there would be chaos if colonial boundaries were not observed in post-independence Africa. Unions between Senegal and Gambia, and Egypt and Sudan, among others, have been broken without affecting the recognition of these countries. The AU mission accepts this, stating in its report that Somaliland’s “case should not be linked to the notion of ‘opening a Pandora’s box’. As such, the AU should find a special method for dealing with this outstanding case. “The lack of recognition ties the hands of the authorities and people of Somaliland, as they cannot effectively and sustainably transact with the outside to pursue the reconstruction and development goals. “Furthermore, given the acute humanitarian situation prevailing in Somaliland, the AU should mobilise financial resources to help alleviate the plight of the affected communities, especially those catering for the internally displaced persons and the returnees. “Finally, given also the high potential for conflict between Mogadishu and Hargeisa, the AU should take steps to discuss critical issues in the relations between the two towns. That initiative should be taken at the earliest possible opportunity.†Iqbal Jhazbhay, an Africa analyst at the University of South Africa, says the report illustrates a new mood in the AU, an organisation Somaliland has officially applied to join. “The AU-sponsored peace deal in Sudan allows for a referendum, five years from now, on whether the south wants to go it alone. This could not have happened if it were business as usual. The AU now goes for results, and takes account of subjective facts and practical realities,†says Jhazbhay. “The AU clearly recognises the stability created in Somaliland and the infrastructural development. It is determined to bring peace to the horn. It is looking at post-conflict reconstruction and it has the capacity to handle these issues.â€

Rageh Omaar joins Al Jazeera International Al Jazeera International, the 24-hour English language news and current affairs channel, set to broadcast globally in the Spring of 2006, announced today that internationally renowned journalist Rageh Omaar has joined the new channel's line-up and will host a daily documentary programme from the station's London broadcast centre. Rageh will present the channel's daily documentary strand Witness from Al Jazeera International's London broadcast centre. The programme will give voice to witnesses from all over the globe, featuring human stories made by storytellers from all walks of life. Content will be gathered from the channel's broadcast centres strategically placed around the world (Doha, Kuala Lumpur, London & Washington DC) drawing on a new breed of video journalists reaching parts of the world often ignored. The Director of Programming at Al Jazeera International Paul Gibbs said, 'As the channel's daily documentary strand, Witness will be the epitome of traditional storytelling with characters that we care about and age old themes presented by internationally renowned journalist Rageh Omaar.' 'We will be unveiling more of our diverse programme offering as we get closer to launch in late Spring of this year,' Gibbs continued. 'It's hugely exciting to be joining a channel which promises to revolutionise global news and current affairs' said Rageh Omaar 'Witness will be what its title implies - a programme of first-hand account. No academics, no commentators unless they are themselves Witnesses.' Rageh Omaar was most recently BBC News' Africa Correspondent based in Johannesburg. His reporting during the Iraq war made him a household name with nearly 90% of the British population tuning in to see his reports from Baghdad on either the weekday BBC news bulletins, or on News 24. Many of his broadcasts were syndicated across the U.S., where the Washington Post labelled him the 'Scud Stud'. Previously Rageh was Developing World Correspondent for the BBC covering stories ranging from drought in Ethiopia to devastating floods in Mozambique. Prior to that he was Amman correspondent having taken a three-month sabbatical at the University of Jordan to study Arabic. Between 1994 and 1996, he worked as a broadcast journalist for the World Service and then became a producer and reporter for Newshour. Rageh began his journalistic career in 1990 as a trainee at The Voice newspaper in Brixton and then moved to City Limits magazine. In 1991 he moved to Ethiopia where he freelanced as a foreign correspondent, much of his work being broadcast by BBC World Service. In 1992, he returned to London as a producer for Focus on Africa for the World Service at Bush House. Rageh Omaar was born in Mogadishu, Somalia on 19 July 1967. He is the youngest of four children. Educated at Cheltenham Boys College, he went on to Oxford University where he gained a BA Honours in Modern History in 1990. Rageh will continue to make programmes for other broadcasters.

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Palestinian PM to quit after poll Hamas leader Hamas victory lesson to world Former Israeli FM: Shalom: Hamas win will lead to chaos "To my regret, Israel will soon face intolerable international pressure. They (the international community) will argue Hamas was elected through a democratic process. It's a pity, because after great efforts we managed to include them in the list of terror organizations, and now all these efforts have been wasted." former Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom Bush: Hamas must profess peace Hamas wins clear parliamentary majority in Palestinian elections

Taag niman lahayn iyo agoon buu ka taajiraye Safar waa la taakulin jiree lama tayiiseyne Isna turuqyaduunbuu jaraa timirta cuurtaaye Tacabkii ba' waa sida Fircoon tab iyo diinaade Isagaba Badbaa lagaga tegey naarna lagu tuurye Kanna taakadaas baw hadhoo waa tukubayaaye Ha targaafo sida Towja geel Tuurin baw qorane Perhaps you may recognise the man below. Its Hajji Musa Farah Iggare (Better known as Ina Iggare). Waa ninkii xaaraantii uu ka dhergay ka soo matajiyey hadh cad, naagihii u tobantobanka guryaha ku xaraysanjirayna ka xoreeyey.

^^ Good Castro, I've been following that thread with keen interest myself, but I think you guys are doing a gr8 job there. I will participate when I think I have something to add. But go easy on Miss Vinus What a pregnant statement that is good Suldaan. Care to expound on it? Ah.. that is a long story my friend. But as they say "Wad wadi mayne, wala daalin uun dheh"...

Well, Mr. Miskiinka, if what you want is going beneath the skin, then we can debate generally as to whether a Protectorate is just an exotic name of the much loathed colonialism, or whether there is a difference. That is for another topic don't you think? (Go ahead and open that thread for us, aanu isla jeexjeexne) On the whole I agree "Gumaysi is Gumaysi". But what is "Gumaysi"? In my opinion, if you can not have a say in the leadership of your country, then that qualifies to be labeled as a form of "Gumaysi". This includes colonialists, occupationists, protectorate, and also the more subtle and somewhat accepted variation which includes dictators, self appointed leaders, warlords and what have you, the terrorists etc. In sum, any leadership passionately loathed by the people, could potentially be described as a form of "Gumaysi". It doesn't necessarily mean only foreigners. To the extent these differ, again its debatable. While we are at this "protectorate" issue, what exactly, pray tell, were they "protecting?" Who were they "protecting" when they air-bombed Soomaalis in Taleex and other places? I remember them bombing a warlord and his thugs in their hideouts. What were they "protecting" when they awarded the Hawd plains to Haile Selassie's? This is one of the issues that the union f*cked up. I believe, had Somaliland been an independent nation of its own, the Hawd plains could have been "legally" recovered.

Talyaaniga wixiisa "gumeysi" ayee ahayd, haye? Kii Ingiriiskana? "Ilaalin." Kii Faransiiskana? Jacburis? I remember you using the Wikipedia service, well I think this might be of useful to your question. Sax. Waa ku raacsanahay. Xuduudaha dalalka Afrika in aan la badali karin, sida uu dhigaayo sharciga Midowga Afrika. Hadeeba saas og tahay, markii sharcigaas lasoo saaraaye Waqooyi iyo Koonfur wee mideysnaayeen. Hadii wax la badalaayo Soomaali Galbeed iyo NFD ayaa dalka lagu soo daraa, sidee Soomaali aaminsantahay. The article in which Marwo Edna Aden is refering to calls for the "respect for the borders inherited from colonialism". As far as that is concerned, the borders Somaliland inherited from colonialism were those that existed on the night of 26th of June 1960.

The ruler of the emirate of Dubai who is widely dubed as the CEO of Dubai Inc, Shiekh Maktoum had died while visiting Australia. Ala raxma raxmiin.

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General Duke Sxb, are you telling us, Uncle Yey would not roll on his back like a nice doggie at Master Zenawi's snap? I for one would understand this site in particular to be bombarded with headlines bespeaking the "extraordinary" leap by some of our fellow nomads, while you sit back smiling and rubbing thy hands with glee Sxb maxaa dhacay? Ma faankii Warlord Barre Hiiraale ayaa kuu soconwaayay?

It is possible we Soomaalis might have used Soomaaliya before they arrived, too The Arabs used to refer to the Somali inhabited lands as "Ardul-Soo-maal", hence where the British got "Somaliland" from. There was no such thing as a land that was officially refered to as Somalia prior to the Italian colonisers. That is just a fact. Yes, the name conforms to the universal latin naming convention, but there is just no way that Somalis ever refered to their land as Somalia. Only in Italy and other latino speaking areas would one find more "ia" in country names like "Norwegia" instead of "Norway" or "Germania" instead of "Germany". They even add the "a" into "New Zealand" which becomes "New Zealanda", and "Finland" becomes "Finlandia". In theory, the Italians refer Somaliland to "Somalilanda" or "Somalilandia" I think that is that... I have a question which is remotely somewhat related to the topic at hand. If the origin of "Somali" is said to be from the word "Soo maal", then I was wondering where the "i" in "Somali" came from? It sounds like an import to me. Any idea?

It is possible we Soomaalis might have used Soomaaliya before they arrived, too The Arabs used to refer to the Somali inhabited lands as "Ardul-Soo-maal", hence where the British got "Somaliland" from. There was no such thing as a land that was officially refered to as Somalia prior to the Italian colonisers. That is just a fact. Yes, the name conforms to the universal latin naming convention, but there is just no way that Somalis ever refered to their land as Somalia. Only in Italy and other latino speaking areas would one find more "ia" in country names like "Norwegia" instead of "Norway" or "Germania" instead of "Germany". They even add the "a" into "New Zealand" which becomes "New Zealanda", and "Finland" becomes "Finlandia". In theory, the Italians refer Somaliland to "Somalilanda" or "Somalilandia" I think that is that... I have a question which is remotely somewhat related to the topic at hand. If the origin of "Somali" is said to be from the word "Soo maal", then I was wondering where the "i" in "Somali" came from? It sounds like an import to me. Any idea?