Another Bush gaffe

“Hargeysa waan imanayaa sanadka, Somaliyana markay Xabashidu ka baxdo” Hargeysa (Ogaal)- Fanaanka Caanka ah ee Xasan Aadan Samatar, oo shalay Marti ku ahaa falanqaynta Jimcaha ee Idaacada BBC-da Laanteeda Afka Soomaaliga, ayaa sheegay inuu sannadka soo socda ku tala-jiro in uu Bandhig-faneed u soo qaado Magaalada Hargeysa. Barnaamijkan, oo ahaa mid aad u xiiso badan, isla markaana si toos ah Xasan Aadan Samatar loogu waydiinayay khadka Teleefanka. Waxa uu sheegay in Heestii ugu horeysay ee uu qaadaa ay ahayd Heesta Sida hogosha Roobka, 1971-kii, taas oo uu kaga qayb-galay tartan suugaaneedkii la odhan jiray Heesaha hirgalay. Xasan aadan Samatar waxa uu sheegay in uu Masrixiyan hiigsan jiray, isla markaana uu ku dayan jiray Fanaanka weyn ee Maxamed Axmed Kuluc. Xasan Aadan waxa uu ka dhawaajiyay in uu Dumarka Fanaaniinta ah ugu jeclaa in uu la heeso Fanaanada Sahra Axmed Jaamac. “UUM!! Anigu shakhsiyan waxaan aad u jeclaa in aan la heeso Fanaanada Sahra Axmed Jaamac.” Ayuu yidhi Xasan aadan isaga oo ka jawaabayay su’aashaas. Xasan Aadan Samatar, oo si dadban Dhagayste Jabuuti uga waydiiyay waxa iska bedalay codkiisa, oo aan wakhtigan loola dhacsanayn sidii waaya-waayo, ayaa ku adkaystay in codkiisa wax ku biiray mooyaane aanay waxba ka dhicin. Isaga oo si uu taa u muujiyo ku luuqeeyay heesta tusaalaha uu dhagaystuhu ugu soo qaatay, oo ahayd Markaan dada jiray shan. Taas oo cadaysay da’a kasta ha jiree Xasan Aadan in uu weli heesi karayo. Fanaanka Xasan Aadan, oo dhagayste ku sugan Magaaladda Garawe su’aal ka waydiiyay waxa uu u iman waayay Puntland, waxa uu ku jawaabay, “Gobolaysi maaha, Puntland waxaan u arkaa Gobol ka mid ah Gobolada Soomaalida, sidaan dalka uga soo tagay 1989-kii dalka dib uguma soo noqon. Marbaan imi Jamhuuriyada Jabuuti. Soomaaliyana waxaan imanayaa markay Xabashidu ka baxdo.” Ayuu yidhi Xasan Aadan Samatar. Sidoo kale, mar Xasan Aadan uu dhagayste reer Hargeysa ahi waydiiyay, sababta uu u iman waayay Magaalada Hargeysa, oo ahayd Magaaladdii Fanaannimaduusu ku soo shaac-baxday, isla markaana ay ka soo jeedaan Abwaanada Sameeyay Heesaha ugu badan ee uu qaado, Sida Xasan-ganay oo kale, waxa uu ku jawaabay oo uu yidhi Xasan, “Waa runtaa. Hargeysi waa Magaalo wanaagsan, waa Magaalo aan aad u jecelahay, mar aan Jabuuti imi ayay ii qorshaysneyd inaan Hargeysa imaado, may suuragelin barnaamijyo ded-deg ah ayaan dhinaca Kanada dib ugu noqday. Waanan imanayaa Hargeysa sanadka soo socda, oo barnaamij qaadhaan ururin ah, oo aanu ugu magac-daray Alla ha u naxariistee Cabdillaahi Qarshe, oo aanu qaadhaan ugu ururinayno dadka qaba Xanuunka dhimirka, ee maskaxda ku dhaca ayaanu keenaynaa. Waxaanan u soo sheegay in aan imanayo Hargeysa saaxiibkay Xasan-ganay. Markaa Hargeysa waan imanayaa, Hargeysina waa Hargeysa.” source

Alayle ma maantu owrkii doobyi jiray malay dabatadii ku durduriyay

^^ Of course the down playing of the crimes in Mogadishu is something deplorable but that is not the reason why I posted this article. But as far as the crimes committed by the TFG and the Ethiopian army is concerned, I don't think the AI going to Hargeisa any lessens the crime. If AI was able to uncover that level of details while not in the crime zone, John Yates might be trying to downplaying it but I see it that he is underplaying it.

Xiin, The puzzle is all coming together sxb. Somaliland all along wanted to be seen as a seperate entity that is no part of the Somalia's ongoing civilwar and power strugle. Somalilanders never showed any interest in the politics and power struggle that has gribbed the South. And for the international community to wake up to this and have that mindset of realisation of Somalialnd being a seperate entity, is something that we welcome and I see it as one more step in the right direction.

Originally posted by Ibtisam: I don't understand, how someone who has deserted their families and home towns is good news?? :confused: It means they have no loyalty, and you should never rely on someone with no loyal, when push comes to shove, they will only end up wasting your time and hoosasis. They are only looking after their interest, if PL offered them a better deal, they will be gone within a day. Easy come, easy go. I don't think they should be rewarded with positions and wages. Instead they should be sent back to police the streets of their home towns. They desserted the Puntland melitia and came to their families and home city. If they are changing their minds that is up to them but part of the SL army's job is to win the hearts and minds of the locals. And that is where this falls under. But in any case, the army has enough experience in dealing with any threat posed both from inside or outside. Ha u baqina ciidamada qaranka.

source "My message to the people in Asmara is make peace not war" Amb. Yates by Ahmed Gure Hiiraan Online Sunday, June 22, 2008 United States Special Envoy for Somalia Ambassador John Yates spoke to Hiiraan Online about US support for peace agreement in Djibouti, UN Peacekeeping forces and the reconstruction and development of Somalia. We reached Ambassador Yates in Nairobi, Kenya where he shared his thoughts with us via telephone. HOL – Let me first start with the agreement in Djibouti. Ambassador Yates as you know the Somalia people have seen 18 long years of failed Agreements and abandoned Accords - brokered by a third party and praised by the international community. Do you think this new agreement in Djibouti will be different and Why? Amb. Yates : Well that is a good question. We are all hopeful that it can be different. Obviously right now we are very early in the post agreement stages and the implementations; we hope will be very productive in the development of Somalia, which is the important part, of course. The United States for sure is going to be pushing on the all the leverages it can to help in the implementations. I think we will be taking a lead in the UN to get UN forces. I think we will be continuing the humanitarian and other kinds of assistances we have been providing in large amounts over the years. We will be continuing our support for AMISOM until they can transition into the UN forces. We will be working with all other partners … and the two sides. I would like to say one more thing, We don't want to approach this like a pole vaulter, I don't think I can make 16 feet so I'm going to fail. We're trying to approach this like we can succeed and the Somali's are too. The other thing of course as we all know is that after 18 years there's a lot fatigue, a lot of dismay and I think that more people are ready to accept this time. At least I hope so. HOL : So you would say that you are very optimistic? Amb. Yates : I am hopeful, as you know there are still whole bunch of people out there who are taking the attitudes that it's the wrong agreement, that it doesn't do the right thing. The people who stayed down in Asmara are making negative statements. The people who are launching attacks on TFG soldiers are making negative statements so I can't say we have everyone onboard yet but we're going to try. HOL : Everything on the Djibouti Accord hinges on what the Security Council (or the international community) does - that is: authorizing peacekeepers and deploying them to Somalia in four months. Do you think that will happen in light of what had happen in Darfur (the UN was not able to deliver); What the US government is willing do about this? Amb. Yates : Well, let me just correct one thing it's not everything that depends on the international community. The first thing it depends on is the improvement of the situation in Somalia. But the short answer is: the United States is the President in the Security Council in this month of June and if the conditions are there to get a Resolution to pass we're ready to see some sort of peace keeping operation. As you can imagine we are going to be pushing very hard. HOL : Somalia is a collapsed State, it cannot of its own stand on its feet - it needs international rebuilding efforts that go beyond humanitarian aid- current Somalia gets food aid. Many problems stem from the fact of this collapsed nature of the state institution. In your reading, is the international community ready to go beyond the current hand out to real rebuilding, and more specifically do you think that this sort of rebuilding operation is feasible for the United States? Amb. Yates : Yes, last line of the agreement is, as I'm sure you already know – the parties also considered a priority to convene within the next 6 months an international conference aimed at addressing Somalia's reconstruction and development. That is what we are committed to, both with the political pressure and the money. The first steps toward convening the reconstruction and development HOL : Another thing I would like to address with you is the fact that those who oppose the current deal see a lot of ambiguity in the Accord such as the word Sufficient - that is Ethiopia will leave when there are sufficient Peacekeepers on the ground- what is a sufficient number. Amb. Yates : What is sufficient will depend entirely on what the situation is, especially in Mogadishu, but in Somalia. I think that the Secretary General’s Special Representative and the members of the Security Council who rightly believe that they would not need a Darfur-sized number of forces but maybe something, you know, something twice the size AMISOM was supposed to be. But I can't tell you if its going to be 1000, 12050 or 16,000 I just can't tell you, it'll all depends; and that of course is what the Joint Committee on Security arrangements which should come into effect 15 days after the signing. We're going to be having to look at issues like that in conjunction with help from the international community and experts. HOL : Do you think that the peace-keeping force that was supposed to change the Ethiopian troops can come from African countries or do you think it would be more preferable if they came from Arab or Muslim countries? Amb. Yates : I think that the short answer is yes to all of them; the peacekeeping could continue to be the African troops over there and AMISOM who will become then under the United Nations. They could come from coalition of willing nations such as - you mentioned the other Muslim countries or they could come from peacekeeping force from whoever can give you troops under the UN Security Council resolution. It could be all of those. HOL : Do you think that the US can be apart of one of these potential peace keeping forces? Amb. Yates : Given our commitment right now … I think that it is unlikely that we would have troops on the ground but I'm sure we would be in a position to provide logistics, moving them, equipments and supplies and things like that. I don't speak for the government on these issues, but given all the things going on right now it's highly unlikely. HOL : The TFG, Ethiopia and the opposition groups are accused of war crimes - does the US support war crimes tribunal for those who committed war crimes? Amb. Yates : The United States supports justice and humanity and does not support impunity for crimes committed. This is the issue that you will see in Article 9, about a High Level Committee that considers justice, political cooperation and reconciliation. There have been a lot of ways that this problem had been treated in post-conflict situation in Africa and elsewhere. South Africa, as you know, had the Peace and Reconciliation Commission as did Ghana. Rwanda had actually war crimes trials at both the international and local levels in Rwanda; and Sierre Leone has had the same thing as well. So, this is something that the high level committee is going to have to work out and find out the best way for reconciliation in Somalia. Let me just say you've talked about the last 6 months or even 18 months the intent of this is for all the crimes that have been done since 1991, nobody is just focusing on 2007. HOL : Amnesty International and all the major human rights organizations said that the situation with the Ethiopian Army, TFG and the opposition groups is the most recent war crimes committed. Amb. Yates : Let me just say that we know it's been a very tragic time in Somalia and it continues and as wonderful as Amnesty International is as an organization when they made the report, they went to Hargeisa and Nairobi, they didn't go into Somalia… I am not saying nothing in the report is right or wrong. All I am saying is that it is very hard to judge from publications and the international media. HOL : What is your message to the Asmara based opposition groups and other Somalis who are suspicious of this Accord as well as the intentions of the US government? Amb. Yates : My message to the people in Asmara is make peace not war. I cannot imagine why people would want to continue fighting; it is just not fathomable to me. Do you agree with that? HOL : Of course, we're tired of the fighting and we're strongly advocating peace and patiently waiting for stability. HOL : Finally what is the reaction of US the war between Djibouti and Eritrea Amb. Yates : Well, I think that it's one more tragic event in the Horn Africa. Eritrea has had its border skirmishes with just about all its neighbors. I understand that the Djiboutian Foreign Minister said that things have stabilized again and they are eager in maintaining some sort of ceasefire. It is not a good situation. HOL : Thank you, Ambassador Yates for your time. Amb Yates : It has been a great pleasure. Thank you. Interview conducted by Ahmed E Gure

^ That building is the office for the region's governor. If you are enquiring about the buildings that SL rehabilitated, it includes almost all the governtal and public buildings from Police buildings to regional and district Courts. Basically, every public and government office is operational and fully equiped now. A farcry from when Puntland melitia ruled the city. But that is not the only development. Lascaanood is now one of the most peaceful towns in SL. It was common to see people carry guns on the street a year ago, but today there is no guns at all. And the crime rate or clanish tit-for-tat killings has been reduced to Zero since SL took over the city. As of May 2008, the city also enjoys clean and sweet tap water. A change for the better in every respect.

source Ciidamo gaadhaya 300 oo askari oo kasoo galaya Puntland oo hadda ku sugan magaalada Laascaanood. Waxaa kaasoo galay maamul Goboleedka Puntland ee Somalia ciidamo gaadhaya 300 oo askari kuwaas oo ku sugnaa magaalada Tukaraq oo ah halka ugu soo horaysa ciidamada maamul Goboleedka Puntland iyo waliba kuwo maleeshiyo Beeleed ah oo ku sugnaa halkaasi muddo dhawr bilood ah. Ciidamadan ayaa dhamaantood waxa ay kasoo jeedaan Gobolada SSC waxaana ay horay ugu jireen ciidamada maamul Goboleedka Puntland ee ku sugan magaalada Tukaraq waxaana ay magaalada Laascaanood soo galeen habeenimadii xalay halkaas oo ay kusoo dhaweeyeen masuuliyiinta Gobolka iyo saraakiisha ciidamada ee ku sugan Gobolka Sool. Gudoomiye kuxigeenka Gobolka Sool ahna siihaya xilka Gudoomiyenimada Gobolka Maxamed Faaraxa Indho buur oo u waramayay shabakada afnugaal ayaa waxa uu u xaqiijiyay in ay maanta ay la kulmeen ciidamo gaadahya 300 oo askari kuwaas oo dhamaantood kasoo jeeda Gobolada SSC hadda noqon doona kuna biiri doonaan ciidamada qaranka ee Somaliland. Xaflad lagu soo dhawaynayay ciidamadan oo ahaa labo qaybood ayaa waxa ay ka kala dhacday guriga Guulwadayaasha ee magalada Laascaanood iyo halka lagu magacaabo Dabaqii C/rashiid ee dhanka Galbeed ee magaalada waxaana halkaasi hadalo kala duwan kasoo jeediyay masuuliyiinta Gobolka iyo saraakiisha Somaliland uuna kamid ahaa Cismaan afdhiilo. Gudoomiyaha oo halkaasi hadal kasoo jeediyay ayaa waxa uu yiri ‘ hadda waxaad kamid tihiin ciidamada qalabka sida ee Somaliland horayna waxaad u ahaydeen dad khaldan oo aan dantooda garanayn laakiinse waad kasoo noqoteen waxaadna kusoo laabateen dalkiinii iyo ciidiinii waxaadna hadda wixii ka danbeeyaya lamid noqon doontaan ciidamada Somaliland’ Hadaba ciidamadan maanta ay xaflada u sameeyeen masuuliyiinta Gobolka Sool iyo saraakiisha Somaliland ee ku sugan aaga Gobolka ayaa waxa ay ku wareejiyeen ciidamadan hadda soo gaadhay magalada Laascaanood kana soo goostay Puntland Saldhiga 7aad ee ciidanka Mahad Canbaashe halkaas oo ay ka tirsanaan doonaan. Afnugaal News Desk

Originally posted by AfricaOwn: quote:Originally posted by General Duke: The secessionists have not even been recognized by Djibouti, while Abdullahi an old rival was accorded the red carpet treatment. How come A/Yusuf never came to Hargeysa yet? I'm pretty sure he will get the red carpet treatment as well when he comes here. You are making it too hard there sxb. He can't even go to Kismaio or Beledwein or Jowhar or even anywhere outside the Ethio's army control in Mogadishu itself - which is basically most of the city.

^as always, good example of junior high school level . Its been almost 4 years since Col. Yey was selected from the list of who-is-who of the crimininals and warlords of Somalia in the Pigfarms of Kenya. It is funny to look back and think now that the very first words that came out of this old dying warlord were none other than his desperation in having foreign troops to protect him from the people he supposedly precided over. Now dukey, what the people want is simple, freedom from foreign occupation and freedom from warlordism. Two things that you and your uncle can't live without.

^^Gobonimo Ninka maalinta ay qadhaadhay garabkaaga istaaga, dadka kale lagama mid dhigo. Pilot Ahmed Mohamed waxaan leenahay Hargeysa ku ilaabi mayso.

I don't think isolating some group would change anything to the situation on the ground. Your uncle will still be hiding under that Ethio tank when he leaves the heavily Ethiopian fortified Villa Somalia. Nor will the Ethiopians be relaxing in their baracks either any less. The Sheikh Sherif group do not call the shots on the ground.

So this is the mystery investor that paid the 10 million dollars to TGS NOPEC

Hello Folks, It seems to me that since yesterday this argument have moved on with lots of blind alley and all manner of tempting close dead-end being offered as a useful trajectory to which to pursue this debate along with. But, be that as it may (although it's mightily tempting) I shan't waylay the gist of my contention into that cul-de-sac that has been offered in here, at least by many other posters who deigned to deliver to us their painful to watch contrive political wisdom that even intellectually-challenge Mr. Dubya of the current White-House will even find it beneath him due to it’s excessive intellectual flimsiness. And, in here what I am particularly having in mind is to judge the merit of the argument that the likes of dear old Mr. Baashi have decided to slapstick the rest of us with it in here. Consequently, I intend to ignore the usual drivel that has become the modus operandi of dear old Mr. Baashi's debating technique at the moment. Particularly since his turgid act is essentially akin to that of tackling the man – i.e., Oodweyne in this instance – as opposed to the seeing whether one has the wherewithal of kicking the ball in which this debate is made of into a deserving touch? But, since, he elected to borrow a few glib phrases such as the ones that suggest that I am the nearest we in here of – SOL – have to our own version of that partisan blowhard by the name of Mr. Rush Limbaugh, or even worse come to think of it, as someone who could be akin to that other misfit by the name of Mr. Sean Hannity of FOX News, I think, then, a period of graceful silence on his part will do a great deal of intellectual recuperation to his reputation in here. But, suffice of now, being the "operative criteria" of our current debate, I think I aught to ask the indulgence of SOL colleagues, were I to proceed to ignore his tantrum in here and proceed with others, till at least we reach another day whereby we can be of certain that we are having back in our hand dear old Mr. Baashi who by then seamed to have recovered his sense as well as his intellectually coherancy or at least it's ship-shape seemliness. Therefore, till that day is reached lets hope that our Moderator, namely, the said Mr. MMA who also acts (at least from time to time) as our muscle-bound bouncer who stand at the door of this chamber for the good of this delightful company that is call SOL, so that riff-raffs or any other street urchins of the Street will not try to sneak in here, will keep him outside of the door of SOL's political section. Or at least remind him if he could not hold him outside of the gate that he is not any state to partake any debate of this kind right here of SOL’s political section.... And that is that… Now, as for the rest… Diktoore Oodweinow, Awoowe Baashi wuxu kugu maagay waa, adiga oo rer Somaliland ah, maxaa uga hadasha arimaha Somalia. I never thought awoowe Baashi would stoope down to that level. But, as you said, give the old man a time to recollect himself and present an argument and not personality attack.

LOL @ KA BAYDH-DAWLADA What a nickname.

Wefdi Balaadhan oo Ka Socda Safaaradaha Ethiopia , Kenya iyo Yeman oo Somaliland Booqasho Ku Yimid Written by Qarannews Jun 09, 2008 at 10:36 AM Hargeysa (Qarannews)- Wefdi ka socda Safaaradaha dalka Ingiriisku ku leeyahay dalalka Itoobiya , Kenya iyo Yeman ayaa shalay booqasho ku yimid Somaliland. Wefdigan oo uu hogaaminayay Safiir ku xigeenka safaarada Ingiriisiku ku leeyahay Itoobiya Mudane John Marshal , ayaa ka dib markii ay ka soo degeen garoonka diyaaradaha ee Hargeysa waxa xafiiskiisa ku qaabilay Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibada Somaliland Mudane Cabdillaahi Maxamed Ducaale. Wasiirka Arrimaha dibada , ayaa kulankaa uu wefdigan la yeeshay waxa uu sheegay in ujeedada socdaalka wefdigani dalka ku yimaadeen ay ugu muhiimsan tahay sii xoojinta xidhiidhka labada dal ee Somaliland iyo Ingiriiska. Wasiirka oo safarka wefdigan uga waramay TV-ga Qaranka waxa kale oo uu sheegay in wefdigani muddo laba cisho ah dalka ay joogi doonaan , isla markaana booqasho ay ku tagi doonaan Magaalada Berbera. Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibada kulankan uu la yeeshay wefdigan waxa ku weheliyay Wasiirul dawlaha Arrimaha Dibada JSL Mudane Siciid Maxamed Nuur. Dhinaca kale , warsaxaafadeed uu soo saaray Agaasimaha Guud ee Wasaarada Arrimaha Dibada Cawil Muxumed Faarax ayaa waxa lagu sheegay in isla shalay Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibadu uu ku qaabilay Xafiiskiisa laba sarkaal oo ka tirsan hay’adda EDC.

Btw this is an excellent photo

^^Waryadhaheen, ninka isaga taga dee, sowdinka camal ka dhigtay. ma fahmaysiine Red sawiradiisu waa wada private.

Isseh, Cabdi Bille was the younger boys that followed Jamac Kara'eens footsteps. Jamac is remembered for his multi talents, he competed not only in the running but also in the long jump and javelin among many others. He was a one man team representing Somalia in many competitions at the same time. He is a true legend.

Well known Somali sportsman and coach Jaama Mahamoud Adan (Kara'een) and his team won the Oslo Bislett Games. Kara'een was telling the BBC the other day that he had some young talents that will shake the world of athletics in the coming few years. This was a time to prove that and he has done it. Well done to Kara'een and the team. more 800m champion Abubakar Kaki trashed the Ethiopian and Eritreans runners.

Originally posted by Red Sea: how come I can't post flicker pics... :confused: There is a trick to how to cheat the system. 1. Browse through the gallery likehere 2. Right-click on the picture you want and go to properties 3. Copy the link url [ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/2551237136_e85995b5cb_m.jpg ] 4. remove the "_m" at the end of filename like here [ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/2551237136_e85995b5cb.jpg ] learn from the master hacker

Its no secret at all that some members in SOL do correspond with this garlic and onion-muncher, and its from these correspondings that, he has turned him a laughing stock. As of recently, he makes no sense at all and everytime he writes something about Somaliland he turns himself into a fart.

Without the local support the army has no eyes nor legs. The locals should be commended for yet another great job. The two men in Erigavo/Ceerigaabo city. Erigavo prison Sanaag News Network

^That is puntland accent, madhmadhoojiyay The Hargeisa way is "marmarooriyey", it comes from the word "maroor".