Dadka caruurta "16-jirka" ah madaxa ka wareerinaya talaw aakhiro naarta halkee ka galayaan?

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Waari mayside war hakaa haro Sit it out. Wait till Riyaale admin runs out of tricks. Don’t play into Riyaale admin’s deliberate provocations. Six months will come soon, before you even know it. Somaliland is a peaceful region. It’s not a democracy. It knows nothing about democratic processes. The ploy to utilize latest voter registration machines in Somaliland of all places was just a trick to introduce an error prone process in order to justify election postponement. Learn from your prior mistakes. We are counting you to deflate the secessionism hype. You have got to be equal to the challenge before you. It’s Waraabe’s function to rabble rouse and appeal to the lowest denominator in that region. Yours is transforming it. It’s Riyaale and his political allies task to feign crisis, political and security, in order to hold onto a feeble power. Yours is exacting far reaching political realignment and lasting peace. Know who you are. You are Siilaanyo a-Soomaali. Xiin, What you failed to understand is the simple fact that both Siilaanyo and Rayaale have the best in heart for Somaliland. Both men are committed to Somaliland's advancement and its right to becoming part of the family of nations. Having said that, the current issues regarding the postponement of the elections to a later date was not Daahir Rayaale's fault. Daahir Rayaale has said it repeatedly that he wished the elections to be held on time but that wouldn't be possible according to the Commisioners who oversea the process. And speaking of tricks, I do believe that it was Kulmiye this time round that was trying to pull a rabbit out of the hat. But to a Puntlander like yourself, what would you know? Adiga ninkii Laascaanood ka xoogay ayaa kuu muuqda. All is good as far as Somaliland is concerned. And the 6 months time frame is not that far so long the process to holding a fair, free and transparent elections continues in the right direction.

Awlaad JB dhalay talaw maxaa lagu garan doona? Mabruuk Duqa.

Ina Dhoolayare maalmahan socod badanaa.

Aamin Caamir waa legend.

Undoubtedly, Somaliland under Daahir Rayaale's leadership has strengthened Somaliland's relations with its neighbor to the West, Djibouti. May this new found friendship blossom to fruition to the benefit of the peoples of both sides of the border.

Originally posted by General Duke: My secessionist brothers are upset for no reason. No one should e against Somaliland state but of cousre there are deeply held strong views that oppose secession in all its forms. So long that Puntlanders don't make anymore silly adventures in Sool, we are content on their verbal opposition to Somaliland.

Worse yet, to undercut Somaliland’s efforts to stand as a sovereign nation, Mr. Abdulla advocates for the unthinkable. Again, he states, “The Federal Government and the resistance movements need to wake up to this danger and start waging a political war against the dangers looming in the horizon.” Please excuse my shameful ignorance and enlighten me. Who is this resistance of movement? Of course it is Alshabaab. Possible interpretation of the preceding excerpt from Mr. Abdalle’s article could be: the current Somali regime (TFG) which doesn’t even control few neighbourhoods in Mogadishu and the terrorist organizations such as, Alshabaab should unite against Somaliland. The TFG—Alshabaab coalition should “start waging a destructive campaign against Somaliland people” for they have chosen self-determination. They have been appealing to Col. Yey, Cabdiqasim, Caydid, Cali Mahdi and even some of them wished Siyad Barre were alive so that he could stop the dismemberment. As the old saying goes: Tanac tanacdu waa inangumeed tamaradiisiye....

^^ I think the silly season has started.

Originally posted by General Duke: Somaliland’s peace and security is paramount One should not mistake the banter and political jostling in SOL as a reflection of the Duke’s political position with regards to Somaliland. I do not agree with the partition of Somalia and oppose secessionism in all its forms. However we must not be blind to the achievements of our people in the NW of Somalia, the peace and the security and the conflict resolution that took place in those regions. All Somali’s should be proud of such achievements and should support their continuity and development. The weak politician such as Riyaale and Warrabe should not be taken as the true reflection of the people of Somaliland and their thinking. In fact the people back home are less anti unionist than those who are in the Diaspora. The actions of the “Mugger” is jepordising the peace and his desperate craving to hold on to power should not undo decade long hard work. History teaches us that it will not be the bigwigs and secessionist criminals who will suffer but the ordinary people who have no funds stashed away and homes in Cairo and Djibouti. I do not care who wins, for all of them are standing for similar platforms that do not agree with and in the case of Warrabe a confused over the top anti Somali rhetoric is indeed ludicrous and self defeating. It is my view that this election should not fail and if it does not deliver whole sale positive change it should at least allow for continuity of the peace and security of Somaliland that we all have come to expect of the region. To the secessionists this is not a vindication of your stance, I believe as most of you do that secessionism is neither realistic nor feasible in today’s world, it is an appreciation of the hard work that my people in the NW have done and may Allah [swt] bless them with peace and development. Who is your audience Duke? Surely not the SNM Gang . As for Somaliland, it is in good safe and loving hands. You know what that means.

roses r red, poppys r 2, but ill do anything 2 b with you PS How did it feel being that close to the man who ousted Adeer Yey?

If "Pros" and "Cons" are opposites, then Congress must be the opposite of Progress.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^^Suldanka you are clutching to straws as usual, dear lad dont confuse yourself. Somaliland is part of Somalia much like Puntland and the areas controled by Al Shabaab and so on. Its just a symptom of the war my brother and nothing more. Sxb, there is a difference between putting your head in the sand and imagining things to be the way you wished to be. And raising your head up and openning your eyes to see the reality on the ground first hand. I choose the second option while you and your ilk are enjoying the first one. Somaliland is real my friend. And there is no amount of anything would be enough to bring it back. Her people have crafted a path for her and the caravan is not going to stop for anyone. Today, Somaliland has all the trappings of a state but the only thing which is missing is the official recognition by the international community. We expect that to take place sooner or later. But the main thing for us is to look inwards and do whatever it takes to put the necessary mechanisms in the meanwhile.

Che, if the secessionists can honestly answer these questions, I'll be the first to recognize their state. 1. What was their flag. Was it different from the light blue with a star in the middle? 2. Which countries recognized their juridical claim to statehood, name one or two. 3. Was the independence granted by Britain in preparation for the union of two Somali regions or the disunion thereof? ehehe What is next? Did Somaliland have a passport? Did Somaliland had embassies? Very simplistic indeed. If it suites you well. Somaliland had a flag, had a government and it was interacting with other nations as a soveriegn independent territory. That is what counts. According to the Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States (1933) what constitutes as a state is: (1) a permanent population; (2) a defined territory; (3) government and (4), capacity to enter into relations with other states Somaliland meets all those requirements and in the 1960s it were able to enter into "treaties" with other states forexample Somaliland and the UK governments reached a number of treaties including this treaty on her independence. As for if the UK prepared SL for Unity. That is nonsense. It was the Somaliland people and in particular the Somaliland politicians that were asking for independence and were pushing the UK to accord that independence at the same time as Southern Somalia's independence. In fact, the UK's Office for colonies adviced Somaliland about the time frame for a smooth independence to being around early 1970s. Somaliland's leaders rejected that advice and hence the fast-tracked independence for Somaliland was set. Somaliland had her own flag during the colonial times up until 26 June 1960. It could have kept that flag and her independence if Somaliland wanted to remain independent. But that wasn't the case at that particular time. Somaliland was pushing for unity not just with Mogadishu but A Union of all Somali speaking territories which includes Djibouti, NFD and Ethiopia's Somali region. We all know that the 1960s Union was a total failure. Not only was the aim of uniting all Somali speaking territories never materialised but also the two regions which united could not get along. The country that was created by the union of 1960s is no longer in existence. That country is a failed state now. The new government in Mogadishu has no legal rights over Somaliland since the people and government of Somaliland have nothing to do with its creation or whatever new constitution the warlords or religion-lords agreed upon in foreign capitals. These new documents are not binding in Hargeisa and hence are null and void.

My theory is the British government decided enough is enough and strategized if the Somaliland group hears from the top guy himself what they have been hearing from every guy below him, maybe they can finally let up this hopeless cause and have no choice but to start looking towards Mogadishu again as the solution From your logic, then it is plausible that the chief of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office Mr. David Milliband will have no other option but to refer this case to his superiors hence the Prime Minister and the Prime Minister will refer it to the Queen loooooooool There is still a long way to go isn't it, dear Horn?

Originally posted by Sophist: Would her majesty's government peril her interest in the ME by recognising a dusty outpost in the horn? Does the America/Britain's interest in SL outweigh that of Egypt and Saudi Arabia? I think SL people are knocking the wrong doors here- they need to make their way to Cairo and Riyadh if they are serious about this goosasho! About the trip: According to well placed sources, Riyal's government was told that although her majestys government sympathises with the cause, it will not recognise this goosasho. Instead, her majesty's gov adviced the visitors to pursue two state federal system along the colonial boundaries!. Sophist You would've supported that wouldn't you Sophist? Her Majesty's government doesn't have to come out and recognise Somaliland but what it can do is to support the cause by other means and that is how things will go about.

Part 1 Part 2 The editor of Wardheernews.com could not come up with a good argument besides his wishful thinking that a unity is better than seperation which doesn't cut it in a debade like this. Well done to Bashir Gooth the editor of Awdalnews for clearly and concisely putting forward Somaliland's case with very good facts and examples to back.

Madaxwaynaha Somaliland, Daahir Rayaale Kaahi, oo waraysi siiyay BBC-da, ayaa ka waramay socdaal uu ku yimid magaaladan London ee caasimadda dalkan Britain. Halkan ka dhagayso Waxaa uu sheegay in uu la kulmay xoghayaha arrimaha dibedda Britain, David Miliband markii ugu horaysay, ayna ka wadahadleen 'waxa Britain ay la qabanayso Somaliland' isla markaana ay 'isfaham fiican' isla gaareen. David Miliband, xoghayaha arrimaha dibedda Britain, ayaa noqonaya sarkaalkii ugu sareeyay ee dowladda Britain ee London kula kulma mas'uuliyiinta Somaliland. Daahir Rayaale Kaahin, wuxuu sheegay in socdaalkiisa uu salka ku hayo fulinta danaha soomaaliland. Isagoo ka hadlayay sida uu u arko dowladda cusub ee Soomaaliya waxaa uu yiri, ' waan jeclaan lahaa in Caqli kii hore ka fiican ay la yimaadaan, oo laba walaalo oo jaar ah aan noqonno' Wuxuu ka hadlay oo kale xiriirka Somaliland iyo Djibouti, oo ku tilmaamay mid aad u fiican, marka kastana uu u arko in la wanaajiyo, oo uu noqdo mid daa'ima.

It reminds me of the old saying Uulo uus buur uusku laba dhagax

Well done to Hargeisa's Golden boy

Originally posted by somalipride: How's it possible that both leaders of the opposition belong to the same tribe? How is it possible there are no Reer Sool or Sanaag running for pres? If that isn't proof it's a tribal state I don't know what is. When I see someone from Sool or Sanaag running for Pres (forget about winning), i'll admit it is not a tribal state. What are you trying to say here? That Reer Laaska are excluded from running for the top office? If so, can you back that accusation with facts. Yesterday, it was about, only the biggest clan in SL will have total monopoly... when that was falsified and trashed in the garbage, this is what they come up with. As for when someone from Laaska will run for office... your wish will come true sooner than later. But as usual, that will not be enough for you.

^^The only thing closer to seperating and grouping clans into clear seperate blocks of clans and subclans is the 4.5 system and of course the the subclan system which is used by Puntland. Now, how does that apply to Somaliland? In whatways is it clan based? Could you put some flesh into your reasoning and be more indepth. Here you have Duke, an old clown in SOL, running a campaign of Daahir Riyaale, who is obviously Xidigo's uncle and a Non-Issaq, being a dictator and a top-dog who is doing whatever he choses to do and what have you. And then, you have people like you in here running the opposite to that and saying the Issaq clan is the source of all things in Somaliland. Now can you two get together come up with a single anti-Somaliland position? You can't have two different positions which are matually exclusive running on SOL at the same time.

^^ Well, Daahir Riyaale faked the whole thing. He isn't even left Hargeisa. JB, The speech looks nice, but how good was it delivered? Do you have a link to a video or audio? Originally posted by Shabelle: This preposterous pursuit of recognition is not only inherently linked to apartheid (it is essentially an Issaq state) - but it is also illegally breaching the Internationally-recognized borders of Somalia. LOL @ apartheid Obviously you do not even understand the meaning of the term.

^^ The competition is between Cadde and Faroole, yaa Duke. Can Mr. Pirate President beat Cadde's famous hollywood pose.

The people will speak insha allah. And the outcome will determine if he stays or not. But as Somalilanders we need to be open minded and be open to all possibilities. It is just not wise to assume that he will go away.