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Not too sure where Galbeedi got his statistics that Somaliland has the highest rate of Jaad users in Government. It is really easy for someone sitting on his butt to make a flyby comment like the one Galbeedi mentioned. But reality is totally different. Jaad is not an easily fixable issue. It is a social ill, and like all social ills, it is best dealt with through education, songs, films etc. Making Jaad unsexy. Other means like using force, jail threats or taxation, will only make things much worst. Specially knowing young men love to be "outlaws" and making Jaad use illegal will only play into their hands.
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Spain’s attempt to block Catalonia’s referendum is a violation of our basic rights Democracy has been under a lot of pressure in Catalonia for the past few weeks. European values, civil rights, freedom of speech, freedom of information and freedom of assembly are being violated by Spain’s central government, which has sent the police to search newspapers, printing companies and private mail services; ban political meetings; seize referendum material; and threaten to imprison democratically elected politicians The Guardian
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Asxaabta oo mindiyo isku soofaysatya... Waa Salaxlay iyo Waddani
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Barwaaqo, Geeljireha ayaa wuxu yidhaa "geedkii midho leh ayaa dhagax lagu tuur tuura". Ma geed kale oo midho leh ayaa Somali gayiga ay degto jira aan ka ahayn Somaliland? Waa fiicantay talo'da Galbeedi in Somaliland ka naawilaayo isbedel, waana ku raacsan in dadkeenu keeni karo isbedal muuqda hadii aan u soo jeedsano.
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@Che -Guevara said: This is funny. I was talking to fellow southerner the other day. He was accusing reer Waqooyi of bringing jaad and qabyaalad among other vices to the South. I guess it is easy to blame others for your shortcomings. But that said he does want to visit Somaliland and other Somali lands. In any case, the southerners have been busy with each other for the last the 30 years. Still, the north does not seem to rid itself of "southern bad habits:. The North is still poor and dusty, tribal in nature and their leaders corrupt to the core. Regarding the British administration in the North, considering the amount of resources and man power the British invested in fighting the Dervishes, the idea that their admin was hands off is simply tol talk, simple self deception or outright lie. You are confusing British benevolence towards collaborating clans with independence. A bit of history about the South, The Italians had a direct control only over Banadir. In other parts of the south, they simply entered treaties with sultanates and local clans. That changed with the rise of fascism. The fascists changed the strategy. They sent the fascist governor Cesare Maria De Vecchi who was tasked with disarming the Somalis and bring all of the South under one administration. The fascist broke the treaties with MJ sultanates. The MJ revolted and Italians retreated in order to regroup. The Italians suffered initial setbacks in Dharoor valley, Eyl, Hobye, etc. They finally captured MJ territories by having their warships bombard all the MJ coastal towns and villages. They captured Hobyo and moved inland. The MJs were defeated by 1927 and their leaders exiled. The last battle was at Iskushuban where the fascists sent a large force. The fascists used brute force in order to avoid the embarrassment of Adwa battle. Sheikh Hassan Barsane started another revolt in the South. Before he started fighting the fascist Italians, Sheikh Barsane only fought the Ethiopian expansionist. He defeated the Ethiopian expansionists at the battle of Gumar Shabeel and put an end to their misadventures into Somalia. He started a campaign against the fascists. He fought at Bulo Barde, Ceeldheer, the entire Shabelle and Hiran regions. The Biyamaal also revolted but they and Dervishes were spent forces by the fascists arrived. The Italian fascists put down all Somali resistance with brute force as they considered Italian Somaliland as their jewel colony. The administrative structure was setup largely to control the Somalis, protect Italian farms and help settle the large influx of Italians. The Italians started a process of assimilation by educating would be Somali administrators,a process I imagine took place in every European colony. The Somalis of the South fought and resisted Italian fascism. The fascists had to build a state structure in order control them. ^Your fella Southerner is most likely those who grew up during the upheaval. Yes, Mogadishu's golden days, were also Hargeisa's worse time. Anyway, thanks for the overview of Southern Somalia's historic events. I wasn't trying to project any historic lessons here. I was only referring to the facts that the 1960s Union was a very bad mistake for people of Somaliland. Somaliland is currently going through it is own slow recovery. It is very slow but it is 100% locally owned, locally driven, locally invested, with local innovation and local application. Everything that you earn the hard way, you will keep it very close. All things that are easily gotten are easily lost. This Khat issue is a social ill. I am glad that now the majority of the youth shun it. And that number will only keep getting bigger until only a very small marginal section of society becomes the only few that still use it. The progress will depend on how soon other related issues are addressed, issues like unemployment, education, sporting facility, access to recreational activities. These also depend things like a healthy economy, final solution to the ongoing political issue, access FDI, natural resources etc.
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............................... ^Your fella Southerner is most likely those who grew up during the upheaval. Yes, Mogadishu's golden days, were also Hargeisa's worse time. Anyway, thanks for the overview of Southern Somalia's historic events. I wasn't trying to project any historic lessons here. I was only referring to the facts that the 1960s Union was a very bad mistake for people of Somaliland. Somaliland is currently going through it is own slow recovery. It is very slow but it is 100% locally owned, locally driven, locally invested, with local innovation and local application. Everything that you earn the hard way, you will keep it very close. All things that are easily gotten are easily lost. This Khat issue is a social ill. I am glad that now the majority of the youth shun it. And that number will only keep getting bigger until only a very small marginal section of society becomes the only few that still use it. The progress will depend on how soon other related issues are addressed, issues like unemployment, education, sporting facility, access to recreational activities. These also depend things like a healthy economy, final solution to the ongoing political issue, access FDI, natural resources etc.
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^Your fella Southerner is most likely those who grew up during the upheaval. Yes, Mogadishu's golden days, were also Hargeisa's worse time. Anyway, thanks for the overview of Southern Somalia's historic events. I wasn't trying to project any historic lessons here. I was only referring to the facts that the 1960s Union was a very bad mistake for people of Somaliland. Somaliland is currently going through it is own slow recovery. It is very slow but it is 100% locally owned, locally driven, locally invested, with local innovation and local application. Everything that you earn the hard way, you will keep it very close. All things that are easily gotten are easily lost. This Khat issue is a social ill. I am glad that now the majority of the youth shun it. And that number will only keep getting bigger until only a very small marginal section of society becomes the only few that still use it. The progress will depend on how soon other related issues are addressed, issues like unemployment, education, sporting facility, access to recreational activities. These also depend things like a healthy economy, final solution to the ongoing political issue, access FDI, natural resources etc.
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If there is any region that has legal basis for its existence, it is Somaliland. The only region that has gained full independence and without force, without occupation and but with its own decision voluntarily formed a union with another country. The Country that was formed in 1960 collapsed totally in 1991. The idea of "Somaliwayn" which was underpinning the "Union" of 1960 is dead. And after 1991, Somaliland walked away from reconstituting the country that was formed in 1960 by the two Somali regions. The gov't in Villa Somalia was formed by warlords in MBagathi who agreed to form a Federal structure for Somalia. Somaliland never participated in that conference, it is not signatory to its outcome and whatever came out of it does not bind to it. Somaliland is not redrawing international borders, and completely meets African Union's charter which calls for retaining colonial borders at the time of independence. hence, Somaliland's borders are known and have been agreed on by international arbitration. The African Union report completed in 2006 re-affirmed the "unique" case that is Somaliland.
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Maakhir, Afwayne's regime was one of the most corrupt regimes in Africa. You will never trust anything they said they will do. They even had a highly publicised programs to root out corruption and clannism. You know where these ended up. The only thing that the 'ban on Khat' in 1980s achieved was that it legitimised the subjugation & mistreatment of the locals by the dreaded 'red beret' (koofiyad cas). It was a way to legalise the looting of people's wealth. That is the only thing it achieved.
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@Maakhiri1 said: Paper on Khat prohibition in SOMALIA in 1980s http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream/2307/1007/5/23_A.%20M.%20AHMED%20-%20Aftermaths%20of%20khat%20prohibition%20in%20Somalia.pdf Another study oy KHat prohibition in SOMALIA, it has been done before, and it can be done again if there is a will. Experience in the control of khat-chewing in Somalia. Elmi AS1, Ahmed YH, Samatar MS. Author information Abstract The chewing of the leaves of the plant called khat (Catha edulis Forsk) is a common habit in some countries of East Africa and the Arabian Peninsula. Khat-chewing has a stimulating effect on the central nervous system, which is the reason for the widespread abuse of this plant. From the mid-1960s to the early 1980s, khat-chewing spread from the limited area of the north-western part of Somalia to the whole country, assuming epidemic proportions. Khat-chewing was recognized as a real national problem with adverse consequences for the health and socio-economic development of the country. A law prohibiting the use, importation, cultivation and trade of khat was enacted in 1983, and it has been strongly enforced by a comprehensive national programme that has mobilized the whole country to achieve its objectives. Committees to co-ordinate action on khat control were established at the national, regional and local levels. An information and education campaign through the use of the mass media has been carried out to support the national programme. After the successes achieved in the enforcement of the prohibition law, the national authorities, hampered by a shortage of financial resources, have had major difficulties in providing farmers with adequate compensation for damage caused to them by the destruction of khat plantations. Difficulties were also experienced in coping with the unemployment of those who were involved in the khat business and in establishing the recreational facilities needed to provide healthy social alternatives to khat-chewing sessions. These difficulties have only been partly solved.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2896525
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I don't know about the South, I never been there, never want to go there. But I know about Somaliland and I know the history of Somaliland very well. I have lived through the harsh and difficult times of the military dictator specially during the later years of 1980s when I was a young boy. I have gathered enough information from those who remember how life was before the Union and how it took a bad turn after the Union of 1960s. You have to understand the colonial experience in Somaliland was never anything that was close to South Somalia. In fact, Somaliland was not a colony at all, it was a protectorate and hence it was a hands off attitude towards the governane from the British administration. Whereas in South Somalia it was an aparthied form of governance in which people where subjected to all kinds of mistreatment and humilations. We never had any of that experience. All the social ills that we are today experiencing was either introduced or magnified by the Union with Southern Somalia. To undo that, we have to slowly rewire and reskill everyone's brains. It will take generations.
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Does it really matter if it is 51% or 99%? What matters most is the fact that majority of Somalilanders want to regain their independence.
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I believe the peak khat use in Somaliland has passed. Khat use is on the wane. With regards to the dictatorship, I do believe it was the root cause for all things that is wrong with our country and society. Including khat epedemic, destruction, death, mental issues. If not creating them, the miliatary junta magnified and made it worse. In 1960s, Somaliland had the British work ethic, zero corruption, punctuality was high, religious, and most importantly zero crime. All that changed after 1960 union. COrruption, clanism, mafia, zero sum politics, dictatorship. Somalilanders are consensus based people, I let you win today but you let me win tomorrow. But in the south its "cadaw ama ku cunay ama ku ciideeyay". So all the things that are wrong with Somaliland today can be traced right back to the 1960 union and the dictatorship. And conversely, all the things that is right can be traced back to the decision made on May 18th 1991.
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Shaqaalaha Dowladda iyo Ciidamada oo aan muddo laba bilood ah wax mushaar ah qaadan Source Muqdisho (Caasimadda Online) – Dowladda Rayidka ah ee dowladad Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaan weli qaadan mushaarkooda muddo laba bilood ah iyadoo aan la ogeyn sababta rasmiga ah ee arrintaas ka dambeyso. Shaqaale kala duwan oo ka shaqeeyo Wasaaradaha Dowladda oo la hadlay Caasimadda Online ayaa sheegay in weli Xukuumadda laga sugayaa inay bixiso mushaarka shaqaalaha ilaa 2 bil ( August iyo September ). Waxay sheegeyn inaysan sidaan ka fileyn dowladda Soomaaliya oo horey u sheegtay in mushaarka Shaqaalaha iyo ciidamada Dowladda aysan aheyn hadiyad waqtigii la rabo la bixiyo. Khudbadii uu Farmaajo jeediyey waqtigii uu is sharaxayey ayaa aheyd sida hoos ku qoran: “Xuquuqda ciidanka iyo shaqaalaha ma ahan hadiyad markii la doono la siiyo ee waa xuquuq ay waajib u leeyihiin” Dowladda Farmaajo ayaa bilihii ugu horeysay si xoreysay kadib markii ay mushaarka shaqaalaha ka dhigtay mid si saxan loo bixiyo, balse wax badan ayaa is badal, maadaama la sheegayo inaan laba bil mushaar la qaadaan, taasoo ah dabeecad ay shaqaalaha dowladda ku naceyn xukuumadihii hore. Dowladdii Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud ayaa waqtigeeda dhamaaday iyadoo lagu leeyahay 7 Bil oo Mushaar ah, waxayna dowladda cusub hadda ku socotaa wadadaas, haddii aysan sheekada wax iska badalin.
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Reer Borama oo ka waramay saamaynta khat la'aanta
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In the olden days Khat use was a social event primarily used by the well off, the old men. It was used mainly during weekends i.e. Khamista iyo jumcaha. However, when society broke down after 1980s, and Somaliland became a military occupied terriroty, there was shift in those who use khat to kill time. Hence it is now spiralled out of control and became a 24 hour fix. Southern Somalia which had no background of khat use before 1990s, has now also been affected by this menace. It re-enforces that the use of khat and the break down of society are two things that go hand in hand. I find hope in Somaliland youth. I see them turning their back to this menace. Instead of killing time, they now go to schools, play sports and do other activities that a normal person does. This Shiekh Umul talking about the high numbers of youth going to the masjid and other educational facilities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_-pV5AoGQo
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Excellent points by the lady from Borama. I have lots of hope for Somaliland when I see our women leave the shackles of clannism behind and focus on the big picture.