Jaber, Walaal, a Name doesn't make a person! But I can Use a Diric or Two if your buying? Add Some Garbasaar and Malkhabad too... I can reallyUse them ------------------ Anything good I said came from Allah...Anything bad I said...well..thats PMS talking.

Dixion....... Khaafa'Alaah Walaalo, Igaarka Ga'iga siiso Man! What did I do to you? Steve, Thanks for the Story!! ------------------ Anything good I said came from Allah...Anything bad I said...well..thats PMS talking.

Wagereey!!....... Walaalayaal, Who in here Doesn't like to have a pretty Dress, Prety car, Pretty kids, Pretty house, Pretty everything? Beauty is not as bad as you guy's are making it to be. If some guy is Uglier then the Dhurwaa, but has brains only? Then I might not go for him but if the Guy has, Personality, Character,brains,Strong religous Values and Culture then I might Consider going with Him Definatly.. Remeber BRAINS don't mean shi*t If the Man Has no other Quality. and Guy's When was the last time U checked out a Ugly Somali sister? You don't even look at their way, U avoid them and always go for the prettier girls. You marry the good looking one's, You date the Good looking one's and even at party's you dance with the good looking one's? Then Now you make it look like, Like we somali woman are the only thing after good looks??.........It's Funny how we never say what we really Mean...lol Top Five Fantasies of men 1.Beautiful Wife/Girlfriend. 2. Dumb Woman(they believe they should be the only one's with brains) 3.Skiny Woman(since when Lil Meat become Ugly?) 4.Virgin(When they want to marry you,only) 5.Yes-Woman( They hate women Who say No to their Needs) ------------------ Anything good I said came from Allah...Anything bad I said...well..thats PMS talking.

Nawaal, I understand how you feel, Honestly I do. I don't agree with it, if woman are Physical abused. but I think that women deserved It! Afgan is like any other Muslim country if their woman are seeing Half Naked, I think they should bee killed with rocks..just like the old days.. What if that women stole something? Or was caught cheating on her husband?.. How did You know the reason he beat her up? They only showed a clip and said this is why she was being beaten down. You don't even understand the langauge they were speaking.. Besides, Wasn't CNN the one's who showed that clip from 11yrs ago(the plastinain celebrating)and claimed it was from the day the U.S was attacked??........... Remember one's a liar always a liar. CNN is Owned by Jews, Infact 85% OF the Media is Owned by Jews, Who are incase U didn't know the #1 Enemy of Islam.. so I Don't believe anything the Media shows about Muslims. The Enemy's of Islam would want you to believe anything if it means destroying Islam. so sis, b4 you jump to conclusion give your Muslim brothers/sistas the benefit of the doubt. Macasalaama, ------------------ Anything good I said came from Allah...Anything bad I said...well..thats PMS talking.

Naftu doqonsanaa Damaca walanaa Waxay Doontana bari kugu diri ogaa, Dantu kaa adakaa, Durba Celin ogaayee Calaf eebe Kuu diiday Kaa Durugsanaa Nin uu Duunya siinaayo Ugu Deeqi ogaa, Taas waxaa Daliil U ah Haadka Samada duuliyo Diinkuba U siman Calaf......Damn! I'm in a mood for somali songs Anyways, Habluhu Badankoodu Waxay Jecelyihiin, Nin Caqli iyo Kartiba leh, Anigu Shakhsi ahaan Waxaan Jecelahay Nin Ilaahay, Qurux, Caqli, Dabeecad wanaagsam,Edab(polite),Karti, Maaliyad, Intaba Leh, Runtiina Qof walba Wuxuu Jecelyahay inuu helo Ruux intaba leh.......That is only Human Nature!! Woman are not all Shalow as you making them to be.. ------------------ Anything good I said came from Allah...Anything bad I said...well..thats PMS talking. [This message has been edited by Naag-qaawan (edited 09-29-2001).]

Nawaal, Did U ever ask a afgan women/man how they are treated or are in their own country?? Perhaps they're Not as you said they're. There is another side to the Story sweety, Don't look at it in the American way only. Americans Think If other people don't live their lives as they do here, Then there is Something Wrong with this people and their ruling.... It's Typical for Americans To get into something that is Non of their buznezz, like they did in Somalia. ------------------ Anything good I said came from Allah...Anything bad I said...well..thats PMS talking.

Jaber ..........as Long as you don't look my way, U gonna be fine. so sit back and relax and let me express my opinion w/out U jumping on me!! I left somalinet for one reason, and It seems to fallow me around everywhere I go.... To Dixion...... Hmmmmmm let me think? Well, I didn't quite understand what Ur trying to tell me here. No where in my previous posting did I mention "controling" It seem like U misunderstood me. I told these women(whoever Is listening) to Not put themselves down, and act like Cheap hoe's. Men will respect U ladies only if you RESPECT yourselves First!! To the Ladies.... If you put yourself low, buy everything in your house, get pregnant b4 marriage, smoke, drink, go to clubs,and do other unspeakable acts, Then Certainly U girls don't deserve any Respect.. Might Allah help you.

Nuurto, Abaayo, U need to Understand men in order to love them and learn to live with them.. for one men are like Lions..When they see a possible kill they go for it.... I mean Why shouldn't they?? C'mon If I was a man and had woman offering me Place to sleep,food, cloth,Sex, money and would Say "YES" To everything I told them HELL YES!! I would take advantage of them Too. There is this Somali saying.. "lax walba Meeshay is dhigto ayaa lagu Gowracaa" Sis If you let a man walk on you, Then he will walk on you.. It all Depends on YOU!! Don't let them mistreat you. Get him on Check!!, and make sure you always get your ways. I mean some women are so stupid, Walaahi they need to be mistreated, abused and shit! fo sho... I know this one indvidual, She bought everything for her wedding, she fix the place up, the apartment is under her name,she works 6days/wk 12hour shift, and she brough home to her family some looser that didnt have a job, education, I'm NOT HATIN ON HIM but the brother had no life at all....and this woman brought him home(to marry her) I'm just wondering what the **** did she see on his sorry ass that made her do this?? It's like a Hooker, U pay them for sex...I believe she pays this guy for sex, Cuz I don't see what his good at?.........My point is sis, WE LET MEN DO WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT WITH US.....so either live with it, or Do somethin' about it.... I choose to do somethin' about it.. No way, No how, I'll do that shit for no man... Peace & much respect to yo'll.

Salaamz Nawaal, Nawaal sis Those ##'s are incorect... Even though there were a research being done in somalia about HIV/AIDS Still they were unable to get the right figure(percentage)... So Ur right about one thing, AIDS/HIV are present in Somalia.. But how many? Is unkown.. Hopefully not much. These days and age anything is possible, as Somalis and Muslims in N. America and Europe, We have seen alots of things that are not right and should not have been commited by us...all I can say is, Alle Ha inoo sahlow dhamaanteen........amiin. P.S The below article could explaine lil bit more on the matter at hand... U can read more here... http://www.reliefweb.int/IRIN/cea/countrystories/somalia/20010129.phtml MOGADISHU, 29 January (IRIN) -­ "HIV" and "AIDS" are words hardly ever heard in Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia. But the deadly disease is certainly present, according to local and international humanitarian workers. "If you know you have even one case, it means HIV/AIDS has arrived and you have to address it," Eban Taban, a UNICEF AIDS researcher, told IRIN. The biggest problem is to get people in the wrecked city -­ where there have been no government health services or institutions for a decade -­ to believe it. At present, the prevalence of HIV/AIDS in Somalia is believed to be under one percent, Mehret Gebreyesus, UNICEF programme officer for HIV/AIDS told IRIN. But Somalia is surrounded by high-risk countries, like Kenya, Djibouti and Ethiopia, and has a huge diaspora outside Africa. "In many places in Somalia, we are not just talking about people who do not know how HIV/AIDS is transmitted, we are talking about people who have never even heard of the disease", one Somali humanitarian worker told IRIN. Lounging against the wall of his house holding his gun, with belts of ammunition wrapped round his neck and waist, a young militiaman shrugs away any talk of AIDS. "We are a Muslim country and we do not have this problem," he asserted. He is from one of the high-risk groups. "You can be sure that many of these young, sexually active youths do not have a clue what HIV/AIDS is," said one Mogadishu resident. The UN estimates there are at least 20,000 militiamen in Mogadishu. ­Most are young, aggressive and lack the most basic education in a country fractured by civil war and lack of governance. They have lived an isolated existence since the collapse of the state in 1991. Many have no access to television, radio, newspapers or magazines - let alone health and education services. And it is not just the young and armed who shrug the problem off. It is also a typical reaction from the well-educated, the well-travelled, and the well-provided for in Mogadishu. "That makes everyone dangerous," said one humanitarian worker. A threat overlooked On 11 January 2001, the UN Security Council approved plans for a peace-building mission in Somalia, saying the new interim government faced "massive challenges". High on the agenda for assistance was demobilisation with "special attention to measures to combat HIV/AIDS and other communicable disease," said the Security Council statement. Poor security in the country and disengagement by the international community has meant Somalia has been overlooked in a decade that otherwise saw a push to combat the deadly spread of the disease in Africa. Even where international agencies have established HIV/AIDS projects for Somalia, a significant number of these programmes are managed outside the country, in neighbouring Kenya. In a recent UNICEF study on HIV/AIDS in Somalia, the alarm was sounded over a chronic lack of services and the very low level of awareness of the disease. The study, conducted September-October 2000, said "free condom distribution and their use is not very popular or common in Somalia." An earlier study, conducted December 1999, reported condom use as "extremely low" and the rate of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STD) in the general population "unacceptably high". The most recent study collected information from 28 non-governmental organisations and international agencies with Somalia programmes. Regions canvassed included Benadir, Beletweyn, Hudur, Baidoa and Bardera in the Central and Southern zone; Bossaso, Garowe and Galkaio in Puntland, northeastern zone; and Boroma and Hargeisa in the self-declared state of Somaliland, northwestern zone. Another more detailed study was carried out in December 1999 in Somaliland, where stability and development is good compared to most other areas, particularly Mogadishu. Authorities in Somaliland and the autonomous region of Puntland had adopted HIV/AIDS prevention and control work plans, and expressed "high political commitment" to combat the disease, said the study. But despite this, very few Somalis know how to prevent HIV/AIDS, found the study. Many thought avoiding public toilets and mosquito bites helped prevent infection. Knowledge about condoms was low. Most believed they were not at risk, yet the rate of STDs was very high. There were known cases of HIV/AIDS in Somaliland, which has an international port at Berbera, and strong overland trade links with neighbouring Ethiopia. "In general, Somalis appear to be tolerant to persons who are already infected" and expressed willingness to care for persons living with HIV, found the study. But it also warned that anecdotal information from local NGOs suggested the opposite: "relatives of patients usually remove the infected persons from hospital to abandon them far away from home". There was a need for community structures to care for and support to people living with HIV, urged the report. It also noted that Somalia has a very high prevalence of tuberculosis (TB), closely associated with HIV/AIDS, said the survey. In a country that has been isolated in the international community, HIV/AIDS researchers found that the canvassing and work done for the study had an impact in its own right. Figures given to regional authorities and health workers on the number of people who had died of AIDS in Africa had worked as an eye opener. It had "made Somalis realise that they live in a glass house", said the report. Controlling the spread of AIDS "I have seen at least 20 cases of HIV/AIDS and there is no denying that the disease is here" In Mogadishu, Dr Muhammad Mahamud Ali 'Fuje', a consultant with the World Health Organisation, runs a private medical clinic. "I have seen at least 20 cases of HIV/AIDS and there is no denying that the disease is here", he told IRIN. He said he had dealt with orphans who had lost both parents to AIDS, but that there were few even in the medical profession who acknowledged the problem. There is a stigma attached to discussing anything related to sexually transmitted diseases. "The potential for an outbreak is real, unless we take appropriate measures" Dr Fuje said. Madina, the main hospital in Mogadishu, supported by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) began screening for HIV/AIDS in June 2000. Head of the laboratory department Mohamed Ali told IRIN that four cases of HIV had been identified. But he said it did not reflect the presence of the disease because it was taken only from those who agreed to be screened, or through compulsory screening done at the hospital for blood transfusions. Most of the private hospitals and clinics (see Somalia: A Health System in Crisis) do blood transfusions without screening or proper procedures. Dr Muhubo Gure of the United Nations clinic in Mogadishu believes it is one of the most dangerous practices in the private clinics. Dr Fuje agrees that if blood transfusion safety is not instituted, it is one of the easiest ways to spread the disease. Another major concern in Somalia is the high rate of other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). Mehret Gebreyesus, UNICEF programme officer for HIV/AIDS, warns that STDs are "precursors of HIV". She points to a study carried out jointly in Mwanza by the Tanzanian Government, the Institute of Tropical Medicine in Antwerp, Belgium, and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, UK, which indicated that treating STDs cut down on the transmission of HIV by 40 per cent. Not much is known about HIV/AIDS in Somalia, admits Mehret Gebreyesus - but UNICEF and other humanitarian agencies have started putting plans into place this year. UNICEF have identified 11 sentinel sites in hospitals, large clinics, and mother and child health centres (MCHs) throughout Somalia to collect information, which will be compiled in a quarterly report. UNICEF is also planning this year to "strengthen laboratories, counselling, and embark on an awareness campaign", Mehret told IRIN. Health professionals are being trained by UNICEF on a "syndromic" approach to STDs, which treats the symptoms immediately in an attempt to avoid further spread. Campaigning carefully One of the most difficult aspects of raising public awareness is the deep-seated belief in Somalia that HIV/AIDS is a "non-Muslim disease" and a "foreign" affliction. Religiously and culturally there is little public familiarity with, or acceptance of, sexually explicit debate or sexually explicit images. Attempts to raise public awareness about HIV/AIDS are by definition "not appropriate" culturally or religiously, pointed out one humanitarian worker - and will have to be introduced with caution. One humanitarian worker described showing a group of Somali elders sexually explicit campaigning material designed to raise public awareness of how HIV/AIDS is transmitted. She said she had to leave the room so that they could look at the material and decide whether it was possible to use it. It was "impressive" that they accepted to look at it at all, she said. Religious leaders vowed to mobilise their Sheiks and Mosques to address HIV/AIDS during Friday prayers after UNICEF held a series of seminars in Somaliland and Puntland in September and October 1999. The promise came after the presentation of "staggering statistics of HIV infections and death rates as a result of AIDS (in Africa) stunned seminar participants," said the UNICEF survey. The seminars were attended by government officials, religious leaders, elders, women and youth groups as well as local and international NGOs and UN agencies, with the broad objective of raising levels of awareness on STDs and HIV/AIDS. Despite high commitment by the authorities in Somaliland and Puntland to address HIV/AIDS, the surveys conducted found a lack of data for programme planning and development in all sectors of government. UNICEF, the World Health Organisation (WHO) and the International Cooperation for Development (ICD) agreed to conduct a joint sero-prevalence survey, and monitor local knowledge, attitudes, beliefs and practices. With an interim government establishing itself in Mogadishu and the south, there are hopes for new opportunities to launch campaigns and conduct surveys in areas that have long been neglected. However, security concerns and the fragmented political map mean there are still formidable obstacles - on top of the religious and cultural ones - to implementing urgently needed public awareness campaigns. Improved security and prospects for peace will put even greater pressure on the race against the disease, however. While the prevalence of HIV/AIDS is at present very low in Somalia it is very high in surrounding countries, such as Ethiopia, Kenya and Djibouti, warns the UNICEF report. An "increase in the number of returnees in the north from refugee camps in Ethiopia and Djibouti is likely to change the situation (in Somalia) unless there is strong support to carefully designed HIV/AIDS prevention and control programmes." In Somaliland, thousands of refugees have been repatriated over the last few years, or commute regularly from camps in Ethiopia. After the new interim government was established in Mogadishu, the Kenyan government expressed hope that thousands of Somali refugees in Kenya would soon be in a position to return to their homeland. Many of the diaspora are hoping to return one day from even further afield. One of the consequences of the collapse of the Somali state in 1991 was massive population movement. Regardless of social standing, Somalis returning home from neighbouring countries, North America or Europe may bring back more than hope for the future - making HIV/AIDS awareness programmes a vital priority for any authority in the country. ------------------ Anthing good I said, Came from Allah.....Anything Bad I said.. Well, That is PMS Talking .