Layzie gets the Shabeel seal of approval.

*standing ovation*

how do you know number 2 isn't true?

This pathetic coup attempt is a result of Aweys being butthurt because Somalia was being rebuilt without him, while he was hiding in Asmara.

run your mouth, but the President is still standing

you gotta love conspiracy theories... there's always a grain of truth in them

Let me start by saying they are my adopted people, and Somalia is my adopted country, so my words will never have as much weight as yours, who are Somali by blood. But regardless of that, it is my belief that you misinterpreted Shariif. Just because he didn't declare war and wave his fist at fist at outside actors, doesn't mean he agreed to become their house negro. And it is not so much Shabaab's harsh rule that bothers me, as much as their coup attempt which has severely damaged the best chance for peace that Somalia has had in years. Please remember, nobody banned Shabaab, nobody declared war on them under Shariif. All they had to do was come to the negotiating table. So prove me wrong! Give me solid evidence that the majority of Somalis support Shabaab, and I'll join you. But, MOST IMPORTANTLY, please please enlighten me as to what this "cohesive and sustainable model of governing AND vision for the future" of Ash-Shabaab is. I'm dying to find out.

Kashafa, please let me respond with some pictures of my own: Here is the Nazi conquest of Europe. And here is the Soviet Union. Both these pictures testify to amazing military prowess and impressive territorial expansion. But does that mean you would have liked to live in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union? Nobody is denying Shabaab's military capacities, and I respect the warriors, I told you before. They're the old homies after all. But that doesn't mean it's gonna be a bed of roses under their new "caliphate". You gotta know how to use a shovel (not just for burying people up to the waist for stoning) and a hammer to run a country. If all you know is how to shoot a rifle, you won't get far.

Originally posted by Abdinasir Kadawo: quote:Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Meiji, this is the correcting Sharif's image topic. Nothing more, Yusuf has enough topics going. Even in retirement they love the lion from Puntland. I would rather say the WOLF from Puntland. You're getting closer, but still no cigar. Clue: this animal barks.

Siren: you complain about leering Arabs, but you secretly you love the attention. Your racist tirade is also a symptom of you feening for the spotlight. Please do understand, I'm not insulting you. It's not a crime to want attention. I love attention too, I just find more graceful ways of getting it

^It's very easy! You point out to them what terrible conditions they've been raised in, you take them under your wing, you feed them and clothe them. You give them the love they never had. You tell them everything's gonna be all right from now on. You tell them all the things they've suffered are because of Satan and the kuffar, and that they have a chance to make it better for their kids. You teach them how to shoot, you show them the power of holding a rifle, how you can make someone cower and cry just by pointing the barrel at them. How you can take their life away just by squeezing the trigger. You promise them paradise in exchange for their life, you promise them everlasting glory in popular folklore, in songs and poems. You then tell them to go out and kill people, so that God can love them. Do you see how ludicrous it is?

^Yes, but we must remember General Caydiid's rather abrupt end. Whereas old hyena Aweys is too much of poossy to be anywhere NEAR any shooting. Have you ever seen him pick up a rifle in the past ten years? He has to rely on poor old men who should be sitting at home listening to the radio (such as Turki) and young boys with a deathwish, to do the actual fighting for him. He just fights with his mouth and his offensive henna-dyed goatee.

Had Sheekh Shariif conducted himself like a Muslim and upheld the principles of Al-Walaa wal Baraa Had Sheekh Shariif carried himself as a Somali patriot and didn't pledge eternal fealty to Ethiopia and the Antarnashanal Kaamoonity Had Sheekh Shariif reached out the thoroughbreds he once led and readily deserted in the jungles of Jubba Had Sheekh Shariif not surronded himself with the men who coined the term "Moori.yaaan'ism" in the Somali lexicon. Had Sheekh Shariif not 'donated' 116,000 sq km of the Somali sea teeming with rich fisheries and national resources Had any of that took place, he would have a fighting chance. But as he since proved to all observers, including his fake government: He is a coward. He is a hypocrite. More importantly, above any personal failings, he is a puppet tasked to subdue the Free Somalis of the Horn Africa. And he will disgracefully fail in that mission. The facts on the ground hang him and condemn him more violently than anything I could say in these forums. Defend him all you want, homey; history will faithfully record him in it's as annals as the face of Gun'nimo, Gaalo-raac'nimo, and treason. God stay your wicked tongue, for it does us all great injustice. In response to your statements: Shariif has always conducted himself as a Muslim and I DARE YOU to come up with proof that this is not so. He never pledged allegiance to Ethiopia, nor the international community. He negotiated with Ethiopia to get the troops out and got in touch with the international community, so that he is recognized internationally. If you're not recognized internationally, you're in danger. May I just add here that the international community doesn't give a rat's (sic) *** about Somalia? You keep portraying outside countries as opportunistic colonizers, but the sad truth is other countries don't give a shit about Somalia anymore. Everyone's lost faith. Furthermore, people who are not Somali and who DO care for Somalia - such as yours truly - are increasingly rare. But back to your statements: The President always reached out to the "thoroughbreds" of the jungles of Jubba, and had repeatedly said he wants peace with all rebel groups, but the "thoroughbreds" were too hard-headed to listen. It was either their way or the highway. In that respect, your beloved fighters acted like a silly 5-year old child. Sheekh Shariif wouldn't have needed to surround himself with warlords if the "thoroughbreds" had stayed loyal to him and supported him. He had to buy the warlords because he couldn't defeat them single-handedly. "116,000 sq km of the Somali sea teeming with rich fisheries and national resources"??? Really? Who told you that area was teeming with rich fisheries and national resources? I'd like to see some proof if you don't mind. Also, did you ever stop to think that the money from selling that 116,000 square km can finance a whole fishing industry? Imagine how many fishing boats can be bought, how many canning factories can be built! What good is the sea if you can't exploit it? All in all, you are a master of rhetoric and I would gladly hire you as my Minister of Propaganda should I become a great man someday. But when it comes down to proving your accusations, you don't do so good. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU, as you are the accuser. Proove Shariif is a traitor and I will ask you to accept my apologies. The fact is Shariif didn't betray Somalia. Somalia betrayed him. His old pals should have stayed loyal, but their false pride filled them with envy and pushed them to the brink of madness. Fight on, my dear homie, fight on! But one day you will tire and will want to sit down. But there will be nothing for you to sit down on, because you will have destroyed everything.

Also, it should be pointed out that the fight against the Tigers was just a cover for the genocide of the Tamil minority in Sri Lanka.

The kuffar of Abyssinia are secretly laughing and dancing because the kuffar of Somalia are trying to overthrow the government.

Patience indeed, brother. We shall wait this calamity out like one waits out a storm.

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Originally posted by ADNAAN: ^^It hurts US all It doesn't seem to hurt the rapists.

Woe unto poor Sheekh Shariif, the good-hearted President. He had no idea what God-forsaken throne he was accepting.

" Certain species of rattus norvegicus practice what naturalists call Electing the King of Rats. During a whole day, young males fight amongst each other, killing the weak with their sharp incisors, until only two contenders are left. The winner is proclaimed King and is recognized as the best rat of the tribe. All the other bow their heads, ears tilted back or show their behinds in sign of submission. He nibbles on their noses, accepting their allegiance. The subjects bring him the best food, the most perfumed females, give him the best alcove in which to sleep in. But he has barely had time to get accustomed to these pleasures when something strange happens. Two or three of the male subjects, who only hours before had bowed down before their King, descend upon him, biting his throat open and eviscerating him. Then they carefully crack open the King's skull, extract his brain, divide it in pieces and share it with the whole tribe. They hope that consuming this will give everyone some of the supreme power of the individual they had elected King. Therefore, beware when you are offered a throne. It might be the throne of the King of Rats. "

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: You cannot save your women in Qabridahare, Dhaxbuur and Wardheer if you're raping your own women in Mogadishu. DAMN!!! That's gotta hurt...

Originally posted by Raamsade: Sherban Shabeel, it seems you fell for the propaganda of the Salafis. There is not a scintilla of evidence showing Ethiopia assistance to Ahlu Sunna waljameeca. Not even anecdotal evidence. Nothing! It's all accusations and here says all in a bid to discredit a concerned Somalis who are merely defending their way of life (herding goats and camels). Their only crime is they're Sunni Muslims. It's not Ahlu Sunna that is invading peaceful farming towns and ransacking everything of value. That's Alshabaab. Besides, Somalia is nearly 100% Muslim. Whats more there is no Sunni-Shia divide, they're all Sunnis. They all speak the same language. And yet it is the supposedly your coreligionist, compatriot Sunni Somali who is raping your women, terrorizing your civilians (like the beheading of local elder in Maxaas today) and not giving you the opportunity to pursue peaceful life. In such circumstance, one has to defend himself and his way of life. I will seek the assistance of even the most malevolent benafactor. Even if Ahlu Sunna waljameca were being financed by foreign entities including Ethiopia, so what? As long as they're defeating Alshabaab and their ilk, they're always in the right and will have my unreserved support. Shabaab was a resistance group too before they became bandits. What tells you Ahlu Sunna won't turn out the same? No matter which of the two you support, there's gonna be more fighting. I used to support Shabaab, now I support the President. As much as he's been badmouthed on these forums, he didn't try to invade or murder anyone.

Originally posted by Kashafa: Uganadan troops rape Somali girls They probably learned how to do it from Somali boys. Let's get real bro, the problem is 100% Somali now. Outsiders came in to screw things up in 2006, but now it's a cancer on the inside. I've said it before, but I have to say it again: Shabaab 2009 isn't at all like Shabaab 2007. It's not about defending the motherland anymore, it's about POWER. It's about greed and mirages. God forgive them.