Originally posted by Paragon: "Ninka warqadda akhriyay waa dhimaad." That's a bit harsh, innit? hehehe I didn't really know how to say "dead"

lol it's really confusing when you think according to rules

So let me try giving the 4 sentences a crack using the grammatical rules in the book: 1. The letter the man wrote is long. So this would be a sentence in which the relative clause + head noun ("The letter the man wrote") is the subject of the phrase, and the head noun ("the letter") is not the subject of the RC. So Case 2 and the verbs should be the same as in a main clause. So: Warqadda ninka akhriyay waa dheer yahay (or dheeryay). 2. The doctor wrote the letter the man read. Case 4, so simple past verbs are the same as for a main clause. So: Dhakhtarku wuxuu qoray warqadda ninka akhriyay. 3. The man who read the letter is dead. Case 1, I really don't understand the rule here, except that the subject is not supposed to take the usual -u ending. But here goes anyway: Ninka warqadda akhriyay waa dhimaad. 4. The man found the doctor who wrote the letter. Case 3. I think all the verbs are supposed to have reduced endings, but again I'm not sure I understand the rules. Here goes: Ninku wuxuu helay dhakhtarka warqadda qoray.

The problem is the book is full of confusing grammar-slang. For example the relative clauses: "Case 1: Relative clause subject of sentence and head noun subject of relative clause -- reduced agreements but verb forms as in main clause, reduced paradigm (subject) Case 2: Relative clause subject of sentence, head noun not subject of relative clause -- as main clause verb forms Case 3: RC not subject of sentence, HN subject of relative clause -- reduced verb forms just like when the subject is focused in a normal sentence (absolutive) Case 4: RC not subject of sentence, HN not subject of relative clause -- present tense same as main clause negative verbs; otherwise like main clause verbs " Well it's a table in the book, but this is the kind of language the explanations are often written in. Needless to say, my brain almost exploded after reading the relative clauses explanation.

I started learning Somali about a year and a half ago. I finished this book by Martin Orwin: I did most of the exercises and a lot of the stuff inside stuck with me pretty well. Of course, some of it didn't. For instance for the life of me I can't remember how to use the different subordinate clauses. Like how would you say these different sentences: The letter the man read is long. The doctor wrote the letter the man read. The man who read the letter is dead. The man found the doctor who wrote the letter. There's a bunch of little things like that, that I still find confusing. I also could use a lot more vocabulary. I can't really understand the written news stories in Somali, nor the stuff on the radio. As long as the conversation is really basic (hunger, thirst, trips, things like that) and the people speak slow (lol) I can kinda understand. But my skills are limited to that, and I was wondering if anyone is down to help me get better at Somali.

Originally posted by Lt-Qalbi-Adeyg: So you're a bible thumpin somali? that's a new one :confused: No, I'm a Romanian lol Sabriya, I didn't mean to get defensive like that. It's just that the general gist of your post about the Qur'An and the Bible made it seem like you have contempt for people who aren't Muslims. Maybe it was just an impression. Btw, I have both a Bible and a Qur'An and I take care of both with the same attention, none is on a lower shelf than the other. To me they are vol.1 and vol.2 of the same story.

Morgan said he doesn't want to be president.

And what would those facts be? What are the mistakes in the Bible?

Originally posted by osman_nz: So when history look's back at the greatest military men and based on success mr abdullahi yusuf will definitely be the one who takes the cake. May I just say LMFAO

Originally posted by Shaakirullaah: The blessed revelation of Allah is not subject or subordinate to the reasoning of mankind, but vice versa. Brother, these verses are as clear as the sun on a cloudless day. I reccomend you to read the commentaries and statements of the major mufassireen of this ummah regarding the meaning of these verses. If you subsequently still deny the obvious meaning, you atleast need to provide evidence to support your claim. These are the words of God, as transmitted by the Prophet (PBUH), in a human language which is Arabic. Given that God is not speaking directly to us, these words are subject to interpretation. And they are not as "crystal-clear" as you try to make them out to be. But please do your thing brother, by all means. If you think hating one of the greatest civilizations in history will give you bonus points in heaven, or hating in general, be my guest. We'll see when we die.

It's a shame he was involved in this pathetic coup attempt and the massacres surrounding it. He is an old man who has seen many things, and perhaps it is time for him to start leading a different kind of life.

^ Sabriya There is only one God. There are people who believe, there are people who don't. I am a person who believes, I ask you kindly to show a little respect to the Bible, as I have always showed respect and utmost esteem for the Qur'an and for Muslims.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: just read children of the alley and found it to be an immense waste of time. read stainback's east of Edan in one week, which is like a thousand pages but this little one took me like three weeks, what do think of his other books, after all his a noble laureate? I only read the Palace trilogy and it was amazing! It's kinda soap-opera style, witty, lots of drinking and women, my kinda book lol

Originally posted by MoonLight1: If this is right then Duke have a legitimate right to call these people hypocrits, and all lives and properties distroyed were just a waste. I agree, but it's not true.

My favorite trilogy next to Lord of the Rings:

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In my experience, everyone gets several clues throughout one's life that God really does exist. You can interpret them as you wish, but most of the time you'll stumble across something that can only be explained through the existence of a higher intelligence. But if you are troubled by questions and doubts, don't worry about it. Just live a good life, be decent to those around you and do as much good as you want. Because if you choose to do evil, there will always be someone nastier than you, it's a path on which you can never win. But if you do good, every good deed you do is an absolute in itself. So live a fulfilling life by being a decent human being and helping those around you, and hopefully one day God will show Himself to you.

Wow, what a load of crap!

Originally posted by Hassan_B: Right on! From what I read in the article, the sister is will intentioned but woefully ignorant of what is like to be a man. had you sisters have known the inner workings of young men and perhaps older men, I assure you you would not leave you homes. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL you underestimate the "inner workings" of young women.

So what are some typical personality traits that paki girls have?

Brother, you need to learn how to draw your own conclusions and use the reasoning God gave you. His words are more complex than you make them out to be, quoting blocks of text out of context.

In that case, I apologize for the groundless accusation. As to your point, I believe Allah is commending Ibrahim's faith and his devotion to the Lord, not the hatred and hostility. Ancient people used to hate for all sorts of silly reasons. Hating for the sake of God isn't so bad compared to other reasons. But hatred is still hatred, an unhealthy emotion that poisons the heart of men. God never teaches how to hate.

lol you can't reason with me, so you rate me down?

The American mind sometimes has trouble understanding the complexities of the world and constantly needs re-assuring in the form of neat little "categories" for everything. Religion and politics are dealt with using pre-school descriptions in Western journalism.