The package of measures that you've presented is generally sound albeit somewhat overly simplified which in my opinion gives it an unrealistic touch. For instance it doesnt adress the essential back-up plans needed to overcome the hurdles that challenge the plan, one being the ICUs opposition against AU peackeeping troops or for that matter, their opposition against discussions with the TFG at all. Also A/Y mandate is due to end in 2 yrs so its not an issue of a specific person/clan ruling the nation. On the contrary this could be an opening for a refined ICU political party to take over and lead the formation of a national government. Sadly things look far from heading that way now.

Originally posted by Geel_Jire12: quote:Originally posted by Gordon Gekko: Northerner et al; on the topic of SL's independency, is this a line that you would drop, if say the southern and other parts of Somalia become peaceful and the TFGs is replaced by an improved and stabile government administration? But how long would that take. What if the current situation continues for another 5,10-15 years? Well, it certainly wont take less time if insurgency activities continues. That much I know.

Originally posted by Northerner: Bring peace, a non warlord/corrupt govnt, no Ethios in Somalia and we may have something to talk about. Something i've been saying for years. One should concentrate on this rather than the tired SL rhetoric whenever one is challenged on the current situation. What you think? I think that you've essentially layed forth a sound approach but it must be noted that this line of action can only become fruitful if it is exercised by both anti and pro-secessionists wherein the former needs to be hesitant in dooming or denying SL's call for independence and the latter careful in trying to take advantage of the southern bonanza through various methods. Coincidentally, the above conditions dilutes the noble proposition you layed forth since these conditions are continually being breached on both sides of the pond, even on government level.

Northerner et al; on the topic of SL's independency, is this a line that you would drop, if say the southern and other parts of Somalia become peaceful and the TFGs is replaced by an improved and stabile government administration? Or is the call for independency and break-away always there, regardless of the future of southern Somalia? I think this would answer alot of questions and make it easier for anti-secessionists to follow your arguments.

^^ And all these delays and the current mayhem has nothing to do with the noble 'muqaawama' that throws in hand grenades in civil crowds?

Originally posted by -Nomadique-: ^ Gordon, I must say, you seem to possess all the neccesary qualities of a future corporate fat cat. I'm flattered and altough somalis by nature are skinny, I do hope to become a fat one

^^ Nice work experience and he was really hardcore on the education front; two Msc's and a part-time Phd. How old is he now?

Think I read this book a while back when I was forced to write a book review in English class. Very rosy and life-altering idea but nobody gives a flying f*** really. There is no justice in the world, its all a zero-sum game. Damn, I probably came across as an emo kid in this post. I'll plant a bonzai tree to compensate for my rudeness

I hardly believe the UNDP would refer to Somaliland as a country though. That would really be a stretch. For example, heres what the link Northerner provided says: Location city: Hargeisa, Somaliland, with missions to other cities Location country: Somalia They wouldnt have written Location country: Somalia if they deemed Somaliland to be a country now wouldnt they? Ouch #2

^^ Looks like he faired pretty well before he started to cook his books. Greed is only good within some boundaries, anything outside of those lines means straight to the abyss.

I think you should start a celebrity scandal blog on Gedi. You could be the next Perez Hilton!

Sophist, would you recommend an Msc in Applicable Mathematics from LSE as complimentary to cover up for a less quantitative undergrad programme (in order to break into this industry)? I've become quite uninterested of Corp. Finance/IBD lately and more interested in the trading/sales departement of an ibank. Here is the course outline and these can be combined with courses such as Stochastic Processes and Derivatives : Compulsory courses Algorithms and Computation Plus one or more of: Game Theory Discrete Mathematics and Complexity Games of Incomplete Information Options Mathematics Probability and Measure Continuous-Time Optimisation Computational Learning Theory and Neural Networks Information, Communication and Cryptography Functional Analysis and its Applications Sophist would you recommend an Msc in Applicable Mathematics from LSE as complimentary to cover up for a less quantitative undergrad programme (in order to break into this industry)? I've become quite uninterested of Corp. Finance/IBD lately and more interested in the trading/sales departement of an ibank. Here is the course outline and these can be combined with Stochastic Processes, Derivatives : Compulsory courses Algorithms and Computation Plus one or more of: Game Theory Discrete Mathematics and Complexity Games of Incomplete Information Options Mathematics Probability and Measure Continuous-Time Optimisation Computational Learning Theory and Neural Networks Information, Communication and Cryptography Functional Analysis and its Applications http://www.lse.ac.uk/resources/graduateProspectus2007/taughtProgrammes/MScApplicableMathematics.htm

^^ Very interesting, what is your advice on how to capitalize on this gap and embark on the road of creating Islamic financial products? Become a quant trader? go into the research side?

As another poster mentioned some time ago, I believe the terrain to carve out the next billion dollar incomes from is in the Middle east. Islamic buy-out funds and Shari'a compliant hedge funds are still in their infancy...

^^ lool

Here is a letter I received from them yesteday(July 4): ****** When peace has come to Somalia and it is safe enough for workers to commit to the building of fixed assets, HAFZA can commence. See a current link below. Hopefully, it won’t be too long. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L04360810.htm Thanks for your interest. Regards HAFZA Administration

Originally posted by roobleh: We may speak the same language but we are different people. You kill each other to dominate one another,but we negotiate to help each other so we can progress together. [/QB] Calling Somalis Nolanders and then uttering those words above really brings a whole new definition to the secessionist mindset. Seriously, the above quotes sounds like something a KKK member would say to blacks in the US back in the days.

^^ Thanks for the info Duke.

Tacky.

Thats weird, I havent ever heard of a Somaliland passport being acceptable for travel in EU. Link/Source?

Thats weird, I havent ever heard of a Somaliland passport being acceptable for travel in EU. Link/Source?

Thats weird, I havent ever heard of a Somaliland passport being acceptable for travel in EU. Link/Source?

^^ Besides Ethopia and some arab states, where else is SL passport accepted?

^^ Besides Ethopia and some arab states, where else is SL passport accepted?

^^ Besides Ethopia and some arab states, where else is SL passport accepted?