Originally posted by Taliban: quote:Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: A federal system with independent states in a union and with Mogadishu as the central national political headquarter and capital is the future of Somalia. A federal system is based on secularism which is incompatible with Somalis because they are overwhelmingly Muslims. A Sharia' system should be the future of Somalia. If you insist a federal system can work for Muslims, cite a Muslim country where the system succeeded. Malaysia is a federation of of thirteen states in Southeast Asia. Islam is the country's official religion. Did you loose a precious minister post in the ICU regime or is there any other reason for your bitterness towards a functioning TFG?

Originally posted by Taliban: quote:Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: A federal system with independent states in a union and with Mogadishu as the central national political headquarter and capital is the future of Somalia. A federal system is based on secularism which is incompatible with Somalis because they are overwhelmingly Muslims. A Sharia' system should be the future of Somalia. If you insist a federal system can work for Muslims, cite a Muslim country where the system succeeded. Malaysia is a federation of of thirteen states in Southeast Asia. Islam is the country's official religion. Did you loose a precious minister post in the ICU regime or is there any other reason for your bitterness towards a functioning TFG?

The current term used to describe the countries form of governance is ideal; The (transitional) Federal State of Somalia. An alternative is; The United States of Somalia (USS). A federal system with independent states in a union and with Mogadishu as the central national political headquarter and capital is the future of Somalia.

This is so true, right on General Duke.

Lets look at different scenarios; I think an announcement where a TFG owned company said it would offer its services throughout the hole of Somalia (including Somaliland) could pose a probem or source of conflict, am I right or wrong? Any solution to this kind of dilemma?

Topic is the question. What will the politicians and people of Somaliland do next? Give us your opinion and predictions.

Due to the many members here in the politics section I chose to put my question here. What I'm looking for is valid information that can be confirmed on the number of internet subscribers in Somalia (in all of the Somali continent as well as divided into Mogadisho area, Somaliland, Puntland). Any estimates would also be good, if they can be verified somehow. I call on General Duke and the other well informed gentlemen on the board to help me gather this information. Sincerely,

Due to the many members here in the politics section I chose to put my question here. What I'm looking for is valid information that can be confirmed on the number of internet subscribers in Somalia (in all of the Somali continent as well as divided into Mogadisho area, Somaliland, Puntland). Any estimates would also be good, if they can be verified somehow. I call on General Duke and the other well informed gentlemen on the board to help me gather this information. Sincerely,

Well reportedly the courts had left open all their weapon stores before they left so all of you ICU supporters can't stay oblivious to the fact that the courts wanted to create chaos. It was probably a part of their last minute "tactics".

Haha nice bro'. You got PM.

yes exactly, applying for the graduating class of 2011 that will say sending in my applications this fall for possible entry in 2007 (if accepted). Im actually applying from Sweden so Im not american but kind of well-read on the admissions process by now. Was it hard getting into Cambridge? thats a nice school too. What do you study there?

wacdaraha I would like to speak more with you on this as I'm applying this fall for class of '11. Please PM me or anything for mail exchange.

I am to meet with the president soon. If there are any questions I can forward him, do not hesitate to mention it here or PM me.

Somaliland will never be a "country" as western media occasionaly rant about. It's a state and nothing more.

Someone should contract a hitman or two.

A truly excellent article. This is the vision that all somalis should work towards.

Coca-Cola is in, Range Resources is in, only got Mcdonald's and Wal-Mart left.

Lol, persistence seems to be a virtue at this forum.

I find this forum utterly entertaining each time I visit it reading all these post stating "my somaliland, my area, my baby, mine, mine, mine". This really makes sense to the saying: "War is born from two small words; mine and yours"

I wonder which organization or entity that keeps all these opinion polls in Somalia adressing all these statements regarding TFG recognition/hostility. Can anyone name the source of these assertions?

I would like to spin on BoiBoi's comment while also adressing this post to Xarago, Oodweyne: A countrys sovereignty is based on societal circumstances, foremost political. Somaliland and Somalia has in the international community (as well as national I might add) status as country and province respectively, since they both are in the same geographical region of the (currently anarchic) state of Somalia and thus (both) exist in a standardized and regulate form not only limited to script and speech but also including race, religion and culture. Having said this I could also mention that Somaliland do not have any specific distinctive standardization that would separate it from greater Somalia; No, "democratic elections", less fighting and political leaders desperately issuing contracts doesn't count an iota. In case you have been brainwashed I might also add that you are not ancestors of white british colonizers (the skin color is permanent and not due to a prolonged suntan). I find this twisted aspect of yours idolizing the province of Somaliland and extolling its virtues to the magnitude that you would call it a sovereign country while simultaneously critizing and ridiculing Somalia, utterly melodramatic. With all due respect to your passion for Somaliland though, I find it very fascinating to see such retrogressive thoughts of present day somalis. One of my theories is that there is a number of menthally ill somalis (some kind of post-war syndrome) in the diaspora that find temporary ease in spitting out the same agitating bullshit as you, at various cafés (and internet forums obviously) worldwide. Ultimately, I would love to hear more about you, the specific post-war diagnose of yours as well as the reasons for your immense marketing of, god forbid to be independent, Somaliland. in desperate wonder, The Somali Economist

I agree with General Duke and Somalipride in their opinions regarding the current TFG of Somalia.

Well I have to say this was an interesting experiment. I just wanted to see how big the response on this topic would be and I have to say that it was overall positive. Unfortunately the business climate in Somalia is not stable enough for large scale investments but I think some manufacturing businesses in the northern areas can prove to be capable of smaller venture capital investments. Thanks for the PMs for all who responded.

Xarago - If I'm asleep you must be in severe coma.

Xarago, get this: Somaliland is just a province of Somalia with a nice province flag. Nothing less, nothing more. PS. 1: This is also the general international consensus. PS. 2: Allocate your energy to work and speak for the unity of Somalia. Fadhi ku dirir of this sort is quite tiresome.