Rudy, a second wife would be 'useful' during some of the days of your fortnightly droughts(I can't advise you on the 'I have a headache' days except to say 'shhh' and there may be less of them to endure). Make sure you don't put them in the same house though- women's cycles have a way of synchronising and then you'll be doubly frustrated...we're evil you know Your heavily discounted time is up. Orgilaqe, the only brownies that interest me are those I can demolish during a boring day at work. And those I don't give to anyone. Not even to people that have orgilaq-ing as a party trick.

...because they are hard of understanding. Is it ever OK to be impolite?

Let the cheater do the fighting! Someone I know was crying last night over this issue. Ohh, the plans she had for him(painful, eye-watering torture techniques) but she won't go through with them. She won't lose her dignity over an A-hole. I'll do it for her. :mad: Not really. I've advised her to remove him from her heart and mind. She cried and cried and it was heart-breaking but she'll live and he'll suffer. I'm sending the boys round. :mad: How did we get to talking about gold and diamonds? Anyway, if someone gave me something of that much monetary value I'd refuse it. Imagine having to take care of a ring finger and what sits around it...my head's in the clouds far too much.

U have misunderstood me. I have no business having an opinion about your wife let alone sharing it. What I was saying was..hate it when I have to break it down into such fine pieces.. that your wife is a woman(u see how Duh it sounds when explained) and when you say something like women have a purpose for only one half of the month you are implying that your wife has has a 'use' for only one half of the month. I'm actually standing up for your wife. U with me, homie? I don't believe your wife exists solely to service your needs every other fortnight so how about you be honest and say what women really mean to you and cut the home-boy drivel. If you want a whole section devoted to the married people of SOL, you're going to have to contribute a lot more than marriage is wham bam thank you Ma'am.

Ameenah, can't help you I'm afraid. I haven't heard any Somali stories since I was little and ehem, moi memory is weak. Lander, allow me : 1001 nights I have some uses.

My, my. Rudy, I'll give you a discount. We need to talk. A whole half of the month?? U're sure? LOL. Well then, LA women must have a headache very frequently and who can blame them if they have to keep hearing some of what you have to say. Rudy, some of what you write reflects badly on your wife in my opinion.

Here comes the Why Girl. FF, I had so many questions it's a wonder my mother kept feeding me. My best childhood memories are those of discovering or learning something new. Life becomes decidedly more boring once you've become accustomed to your surroundings and have had answers to all that relates to our immediate world- however unsatisfactory. As for Islam, I realised there were different interpretations and sometimes downright wrong explanations that adults were carrying around and spreading and decided to hit the relevant books and find out for myself. I don't think parents alone can answer the burning questions about Islam- we don't all have patience or the gift of teaching. This is why a good school with well-informed, captivating teachers would be a God-send.

Originally posted by ORGILAQE: You seem to be able to get into the male pyche better than most women i know. [/QB] I'll have to start charging for my ability then. I'll make a fortune, I tell ya. How about you start us off and post something men-related. I'm listening. 150 quid an hour. Insight doesn't come cheap.

Orgilaqe, this has been discussed in practically every other forum. Nothing ever comes of it. Personally, I find the Women's section with romance etc as a tag line patronising. It isn't really what it should be but there is a campaign underway(I hope). I feel the men need a section of their own. It might help us ladies understand their motives better. Most of the misunderstandings and arguments on SOL are gender related. I'm sick of them. There are serious issues that our men face and nobody ever brings them up. Women aren' the only ones with problems.

Congratulations saaxib, you saved us from ourselves by doing nothing. Let's not start something else, OK? I'm in one hell of a grouchy mood and could do serious verbal damage today if I allow myself. As for the book group, I don't think I'll be able to contribute initially. I'm going to be doing a lot of writing(poetry, stories, whatever) for the next few months, inshallah. If I read a book, it will be for the enjoyment alone, I won't have any spare brain cells for analysing any words other than my own. Wish me well. It'll need discipline. Keep this going(by doing nothing) and I'll join when I can, inshallah. Happy reading.

LOZ, I wasn't in anyone's way. While I was still having my one to one with Mutakalim, Classique did what she thought she should do, which is far more than most did. There are more followers than creators in here. So cut the 'See Sheherazade'; I didn't see you do anything but follow. If that's something to be proud of then glow, man, glow.

Orgilaqe, men that stalk(and I'm not using the word lightly here) don't give up beaten or not. I have to use my head, mate. Thanks for the offer of help. Anyway, a side-effect of this has been that I want absolutely nothing to do with men. I just don't have the energy to work out the well-meaning ones from the rest anymore. Today I was rude to a guy who came up to me in the street. It takes a lot for me to be rude. But I just can't be bothered; my barriers are sky-high. A friend was listening in on the one-sided conversation I was trying not to have with the guy. When he left, I asked her if I was rude(knowing full well I was). She made a face. Just tell me! Yes, for you, you were rude. He was nice and polite and good looking but I understand why you did it. It felt awful to have to hear that. I'm going to apologise if I see him again. It wasn't right. It's not nice knowing someone's following me around, asking about me, showing up where I hang out- including my home!!! Sigh. I could do with a Knight In Shining Armour. Where the beep are you? LOL.

You know what it is- most are just too lazy to come up with ideas and share them. They want the job done for them. Why they should then complain when they are not even contributing to the process is beyond me. Still, good luck with whatever form this thing takes.

Walaal, thanks for the duca. I could do with it any time. It's not exactly rough, bro, just awkward. I have a stalker. I'm going to put a smiley face here to lighten the mood: . If only he'd go away if I made a face. One day it will be something to laugh back at; for now it's annoying and at moments it sets my heart racing nervously. Never mind, it'll settle itself soon enough. Sometimes I think I'm in the Twilight Zone. God help me.

People are what make a place, ultimately. Hang in there and you will leave remembering the people the most and missing them. Sub-continental people stare like they're watching a television. It's just the way it is...good luck and enjoy it! Oorrrr kuch? More please!

Don't worry about it. Really. Some guys try and shoot Cupid's arrows all over the place hoping it will it dig into some unsuspecting girl-flesh. I get into trouble for smiling and being nice all the time. I can't stop doing it though. Oh God, I feel a smile coming on..

Xoogsade and Orgilaqe(what names!), thanks. I do try and see the bright side of boys. It gets me into trouble sometimes. If you knew what I was dealing with right now, you'd wonder how I manage to keep seeing life sunny side up where men are concerned. Groan. Still, I rock on.

By God I know not from whence comes this infantile antagonism! It's simple logic. The first time it is that we exchange thoughts on these boards, but you seem to be most intent on settling some obscure score. Imposing guidelines on any soul I am not; instead, making stipulations and suggestions as to standard protocols I am. It was all done in good gesture, fair sheherazade. Huh? Settling a score? Go re-read any words I've directed at you in the past. However, be warned, they may not make any sense considering you've deleted yours. I've let you know before what I think of the tone of your responses in general. That has nothing to do with this. Your intentions are not in question here, Yoda. My query, Good sheherazade, was save a rhetorical one. So, where was the question mark? Originally posted by Legend of Zu: I think Shehrezade.. U almost killed the whole revolution that was going through SOL. Imagine once this Book Groups takes off how many other groups of good hobbies will follow? I can definitely understand where you coming from. Your concerns are legit but given what we trying to do here in SOL which is first of its kind. If someone, from their own initiative, had put together a list of those he thought had shown interest and provided a set of regulations in which he admitted to be as a starting point and not exhaustive, I don’t see why we don’t modify it where we need to and accept where it is valid and move on to the following steps.. Just by simply protesting (while u had good intentions) you nearly killed the whole motion. Since those non productive arguments between you and PK, the whole agenda died and had collapsed within... LOL. You give me far too much credit. I was voicing my opinion just as you are now voicing yours. If it gets in the way of the revolution that you state may be afoot, then what an abject bunch of revolutionaries the rest of the SOLers are to have been put off by my thoughts alone. I had no idea I had such a hold over the others. U've set me straight. Sheherazade rules. It isn't about intentions so much as it about appearance. Our words are all we have to go on to form an opinion and when we read something we all take away something different from the read- hence, the enjoyment of sharing reviews and opinions. I'm not standing in the way of anyone else. They're quiet because they choose to be. When you read the guy's words, you didn't pick up some of what I did. C'est la vie. You see some, you see none. OG_Girl, having to ask to be removed from a list is not logical to me. Classique, someone should take a lead with this. Just who is another matter. Sheeko Somali indeed.

The word 'sexy' can refer to something appealing without it being sexual. Well, that's my excuse anyway. http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/sexy?view=uk

Not here. Sorry, fresh out of goodness. My new pet project is to turn into a bad girl. Let the bad antics begin...any tips?

Where are they? They're everywhere, I see them all the time- each one thinks he's good. As do the women. We're a bunch of self-lovers. No wonder we don't get along. I think I'm going to find me a bad boy but first I must turn into a bad girl. Oh, yippie, a project.

I don't know what makes you think I'm livid with you dearest boy. What you have done is create a group with a dull, predictable name and peopled it with individuals who want to be part of a discussion group that we were in the process of creating and not the one you have come up with necessarily. There's a difference. You are right, you are not a man of subtlety. You don't need to make transparent statements like the one you suggest in order to get across your approach. I did read your post in its entirety; you must be referring to the icing on the cake that was: If you would like to add anything to the list, then feel free to do so. Firstly, as we're supposed to be making suggestions, none of us require your permission and secondly, it's not the list yet, it's yours. We're in this together. Is not that nice, Good sheherazade. Is that not a question? In any event, if you think that the guidlines I have proposed herein are neither practicable nor reasonable, then you are obligated to provide an alternative. You can write five or more alterantives should such is desired. I'm not obligated to anything any more than you are. The guidelines that you provide are just that- yours. I wouldn't want to limit anyone or create a group within SOL; we're free to post as we wish everywhere else on the site. P.S. .On a lighter note, whomsoever rebels against my rules, shall be hanged at noontide. Muhahahahhahahahah. *cough* muha *cough* Yeah, picked up on that loud and clear. Ngonge, my grand idea is what it is: my idea. I wouldn't even call it 'grand'. If others like the idea, they can say so and likewise if they don't. I'm not shoving anything down anyone's throat. The Poetry section is for poetry as far as I can tell. It's the land of poets. How would that be relevant to a book group? A “core†group IS needed for this task to be sustained. If things are left random and open to all, sometimes, “all†might lose interest. How do you choose the core group? Do they merely state their interest or are they hand-picked by someone who has hand-picked himself? An interested group of people do not need to be acknowledged as an entity in order to keep things going. The Poetry section doesn't need a designated list of poets, why should a book group? Also, isn't maintaining order and introducing finalised rules part of admin/moderator's job? If rules are created by the rule-makers, we abide by them though we grumble; if they are created for us by self-appointed rule-makers with a heavy-handed approach, it's a whole other book group. Tagging something new onto the Poetry section is a possibility. It's down to Admin, I guess. I would hope that this gets somewhere.

Give the guy a break! I know what he means. A woman does not have to be dressed sexily to be sexy to someone. It's about the guy's perception of what might lie beneath her physical appearance- her choice in being covered up in a world where the opposite is desirable and womanly. Don't stare though. Most of us plain don't like it. It is possible to look funky and modest.

Whoa, there Mutakalim! Have I missed something? How is it that you have taken it upon yourself to nominate members and a name? You're right, structure is required but you introduce your suggestions as decisions already made!! We're in this together. The reason I suggest a forum which is a Reading area is so as not to limit anyone, reader or contributor. Some of us are self-confessed readers and we would keep it going but the rest would dip in here and there. This isn't only about the book lovers; it's about sharing reviews with all and appreciating it. A book review section would need to be structured with some kind of deadline or it might just putter out and die. I can not think of an earthly reason why only a select few people would have the privilege of nominating a book. And who selects these people? I also believe that a lot more than books can be discussed and shared. Everybody is welcome. I don't want to be part of something that requires learning a secret handshake. I was also joking when I once said there would be an initiation process! It takes the pleasure out of it. Stoic, I agree. Ngonge, you're evil. Pure and simple. Paulo what's-his-name disappointed me greatly. I read 2 of his books back to back and I wanted a refund. A great deal of fuss over nothing in my opinion.

Allah ha kuu sahlo, inshallah. When we face a challenge it is only one that Allah knows we can handle. Magaca iska badal, caafimaad badan ee.