The idea occured to me tonight and I want to discuss it with you with this first question as its subtitle Is the ICU too disingenuous to its core principle and faith, are they truly nationalist The art of artifice or swindling is that after an oath is sworn and confirmation of the pact and covenants of God is reaffirmed, mysteries gradually appear and familiar faces of positive characters take 360 degree change. So many times the ICU has nullified its ways of seeking a bottom-up approach of establishing an Islamic state that is sustained by grassroots management and consultation. We have had indications that they are aggressively opposed to Ethiopia’s political and military interference and hid themselves behind the façade to cast off tribalism, corruption, nepotism, warlordism and secular outlook of administration. How has it contented people beset by inability to question ulterior motives is still the pith wonder, but I shall say that ICU has had political snafus. The UIC’s outwardly acceptable, well known widespread appeal plunged the masses into blind ignorance through using the loftiness of Islam, victory over the warlords, and the vastness of their military spread into much of the south. However, they have blown their horns too early. Their ultimatum to Ethiopia is a prospect of giving up our nationalist precepts, only employed by our leaders in the 60s such as Egal, Xaji Mohamed, the father of Greater Somalia, Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke, and Aden Abdulle Osman. The speeches of Xaji Mohamed in the Security Council, Aden in his presidency, and Sharmarke impressively MARKED the ultimate attainment of Somali pride to claim their own territories from both legal and moral stand point. Before Sharmarke was assassinated, he had never stumbled from his firm principles and he often emphasized the need to sort out our complex crosscurrents of border conflicts. Siyad started the work from where it was left and launched the biggest attack on Ethiopia. Regional studies confirm that Ethiopia has yet to rebound from the debts it accrued in its strategic national defense. My question, does ICU just like Ghedi and Abdillahi Yusuf’s position, jettisoned the need to reunite Somalis from Horn of Africa as attempted by our former leaders. Many would argue that due to our current civil war, which has made our political institutions to collapse and our social compact to splinter out of control, no one dares to uphold the Somaliwayn Principle. ICU has issued ultimatum that Ethiopian troops must leave Somali territories. Is there a distinct border? Or where does ICU draw its border? If they mean the internationally recognized border btw Somali and Ethiopia, then the ICU has recognized Ethiopia’s claimed borders with Somalia and gave up the hopes of the Somali people under the brutal occupation of the Ethiopian colonialist. Dr. Roobdoon explains it well how today’s leaders of Somalia strive not to attract the risk of losing Ethiopia’s support by not claiming NFD and Somali region of Ethiopia. I even heard rumors that president Abdullahi has signed secret instrument of surrender of our lands.

No he wasn't. He was the father of this mayhem. His final words where he is believed to have said are that he left no human being but skeleton country.

Originally posted by samuraiW: Alle-ubaahane, Whilst your call for jihad against those whom you classify as the enemy is admirable, I am afraid I personally would have to say “NO”. I do so, for I see nothing that which justifies the call for war, let alone jihad. I will for what it is worth go a bit further to add the enemy you speak of is indeed and actually closer to Islam than you and your colleagues here calling for jihad are. In my view, you are [the] quintessential enemy of Islam, and if any jihad is to be declared, it must be upon you. Which Islam, I wonder might you be speaking of? Certain I am, you and I do not subscribe to the same tenets of Islam, nor do we pray to the same God. Perhaps “tollayeey”, which better fits your call for jihad, would be a golden currency to stir the dozy miniatures in your camp for appallingly contemptible rogues, ‘ilma adeer’ you are. You are neither to be trusted, nor heard of let alone heed your foul bellicose and iniquitous call for jihad. In other words, p*** off, mate and may you burn in hell! MMA - what is in a piece of cloth, I beg of you? Tata… Wlc back SW. A nation that has been invaded would regard the flag as the last part that has not been conquered and would use it as the driving force behind regaining control of occupied lands. We are this nation, a nation occupied by its own people, so if someone insults the driving force behind regaining this control, I consider him to be an outsider and unwise warlord.

A well-written opinion from a "Somali-lander" Waa xaq darro xadhigga Suldaan Cismaan iyo Xoghayntiisu Posted to the Web Dec 05, 12:29 aayaha.com Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibadda Somaliland: “Waxaannu dhisnay Distoor Calmaani ah”- British Broadcasting Corporation World, The World Today, 19th Aug. 2006 Madaxweynaha Somaliland: “Waxaannu hirgelinney Dimoqraaddiyad calmaani ah”, The Daily Telegraph, Friday 27th Oct. 2006. 01/12/06 ayaa suldaanka laga afduubay gurigiisa magaalada Burco oo loo taxaabay xabsi ku yaalla Mandheera. Suldaan Cismaan Suldaan Cali waxa lala qabtay oo isna xidhan Maxamed Faarax Aadan oo ka mid ahaa shir guddoonkii kulan Burco ka dhacay 30/11/06, shirkaas oo lagu guddoomiyey in Habar Yoonis ku maaraynayso arrimaha gudaheeda degaan ahaan ku dhaqanka shareecada islaamka, waxana shirku dawladda Somaliland iyo tolalka kale ee ay walaalaha yihiinba ugu baaqay ku dhaqanka shareecada islaamka. Aan idhaahdo Somaliland halis bay daaqaysaa. Waxa cagta lagu hayaa waddaddii burburka. Jarkii hoogga ayaa maalinba maalinta ka dambaysa lagu sii durkayaa. Kelitalisnimadu waa hooyada halaagga. Car juuq dheh iyo ku tumashada xuquuqda, milgaha iyo haybadda waddanigu waa astaantii ifafaalayaasha baaba’a qanuunka iyo kala dambaynta. Haddii distoorka iyo xeerarkiisu ay ka dul kici waayaan oo ku dul abaarsadaan waraaqaha ay ku qoran yihiin, haddii madaxda qaranka iyo hay’adaha dawladdu u dhaqamaan sidii ay doonaan oo lagu gabbood falo xilkasnimo oo dhan iyo mas’uuliyaddiiba, waxa lunta kalsooni oo dhan, waxana si fudud u suula sifooyinkii dawladnimo oo dhan. Dawladda maantu waxqabad la’aanteeda, curyaannimadeeda, indha la’aanteeda iyo musuqeeda, waxa ay ku darsatay dad cunnimadan ay la soo baxday iyo foolxumooyinkan ku xidhiidhsan caqiidada iyo diinta ummadda ee si kasta cagta hoosteeda loo gelinayo ee loogu tumanayo. Sannad in ka badan ayaa laga joogaa markii lixda culimada ah ee argagixisada lagu eedeeyey loo taxaabay xabsiga Hargeysa, culimadaas oo aan ilaa haddeerto wax xukun ahi aanu ku dhicin oo lagu soo caddayn kari waayey wax dembi ah oo ay ka galeen dalka iyo dadka Somaliland. Sida laga warqabana culimadaas waxa lagula kacay jidh dil fool xun oo qaarkood la caddaynayo in dhaawacyo ka soo gaadheen. Culimadaas Hargeysa ku xidhan waxa ka mid Sh. Maxamed Sh. Ismaaciil Sh. Xasan oo beri dhoweyd la faafiyey muuqaallo fool xun (Jidh dil ah) oo lagaga duubay sheekha cajalad video ah, arrintaas oo dawladda Somaliland ku guuldarraysatay iska dulqaadkeeda, ka dib markii ay u saari kari waydey guddi madax bannaan oo ammuurtaas meel cayiman ku tiirisa! Culimada xidh xidhani waxa ay kala yihiin: Sheekh Maxamed Sheekh ismaaciil Sheekh Axmed-kayse Cali Xuseen Sheekh Maxamed Maxamuud Nuur Sheekh Muuse Cali yuusuf Sheekh C/laahi Maxamed Axmed Sheekh Maxamed Ibraahim Axmed Suldaan Cismaan Suldaan Cali Madar iyo Maxamed Faarax Aadan ayaa iyana maanta u godobaysan diinta islaamka. Dembiga lagu haystaa ee xabsiga loogu garbaduubayaa wax kale ma aha ee waa keliya in ay ku baaqeen in lagu dhaqmo shareecada islaamka, ka dib markii ay go’aansadeen in ay degaanka qoyskooda ka hirgelinayaan shareecada islaamka iyo ku dhaqankeeda. Waa ayaan darro in arrintaas oo kale cidba loo xidhaa, waana ayaan darro kale in madax dhaqameed, weliba suldaan beel dhan lagaga xayuubiyaa sharaftii iyo haybaddii uu lahaa. Runtii waa gef iyo xumo xurmo la’aaneed oo loo gaystey Somaliland oo dhan madax dhaqameedyadeeda, salaadiinteeda, ehlul sharafkeeda iyo shacabkeeda. Waa xaq darro ay tahay in laga wada oogsado oo la diido fulinteeda iyo sii socoshadeeda, waana mash-qac la ruubay dadnimadeenna oo haddii aynu haddeer ka diiri wayno, hadhowto inagu noqon doona waran afdhuuban oo fallaadho sumaysan jiidanaya! In dawladdeennu diinta iyo damiirkeenna islaamiga ah la dagaallantaa la yaab ma leh, ha yeeshee waxa yaab leh in aynu hoos u hoganno oo ugu dul qaadanno qorshayaasha lagu fogaynayo soo dhowaynta hirgelinta iyo ku shaqanka shareecada islaamka oo dastuurkeennu oggol yahay. Dawladdeennu ma aha xilkas, mas’uuliyiinteeduna waxa ay la ambadeen xilkaas. Sinaba macquul uma aha in arrintan Suldaan Cismaan Suldaan Cali loo xidhaa. Haddii ay dawladda Somaliland xilkas tahay waxa loo yeedhi lahaa suldaanka oo lagu qancin lahaa ilaalinta iyo kala xadaynta awoodda fulinta ama xukunka dawladda iyo maamulka hoose ee tolalku gudahooda kaga dhaqmaan. Ha yeeshee xadhiggu waa xilkasnimo darro iyo meel-ka-dhac weyn. Dawladdeenna iyo ku dhaqanka shareecada islaamku waxa ay kala fadhiyaan “cirka iyo dhulka”, taas baana keenaysa in ay ka didaan sidii adhi weere arkay dareen kasta oo dhadhan diimeed leh. Shareecada islaamku ma burburinayso Somaliland ee waxa duminaysa siyaasadda dawladda maanta ee xaalad abuurka ah, dawladdan ku faanta diin laawennimada; diin la’aanta ama calmaannimada. Madaxweynaha iyo wasiirkeenna arrimaha dibaddu waxay labaduba dunida u caddeeyeen in ay ku naalloonayaan hirgelinta dawlad calmaani ah; dawlad aan diin wax shuqul ah ku lahayn; dawlad diinlaawennimo ku dhaqanta! 19/08/2006 ayaa wasiirka arrimaha dibaddu arrintaas u xaqiijiyey barnaamijka afka ingriiska ku baxa ee British Broadcasting Corporation ee loo yaqaan The World Today. Madaxweynaheennuna waxa uu arrintaas mid la mid ah ku sheegay wargeyska The Daily Telegraph cadadkiisii soo baxay Jimcihii, 27-kii bisha Okt. 2006. Xadhiga Suldaan Cismaan Suldaan Cali iyo xoghayntiisu waa baaddil xaq darro ah, waana in xukuumadda cadaadis lagu wada saaraa sii dayntooda, waana in dawladdeenna la baraa in xadhigga xaq darrada ahi ka mid yahay waxyaalihii ummaddani ka dagaallantay ee kumannaanku ku naf waayeen, kumannaanka kale ku naafoobeen, kumannaankuna ku maal beeleen ee ku burbureen. Somaliland ma aha quraarad daleel saaran oo dhagaxna hoos yaallo oo iska soo dhacaysa, iskana burburaysa. Suldaan Cismaan Suldaan Cali iyo beeshiisuba waxa ay ka mid yihiin hormuudkii u halgan iyo hawlba galay Somaliland iyo dib u yagleelkeeda, maantana ma ay samayn wax hagardaamo ah iyo waxyeellayn ku qumman qarannimada Somaliland wax sii hagaajinaya mooyaane. Waa in la sii daayaa Suldaanka iyo inta xaq darrada ugu hoyata ee ku xidhan jeelasha waddankeenna dhammaantood, iyada oo maskaxkamad deg deg ahna la horkeenayo dadka dembiyada lagu eedaynayo, gaar ahaan culimada lagu silic dilyeynayo xabsiyadeenna. Qalinkii Maxamed Baashe X. Xasan mohamedbashe@hotmail.com

I came across this article two days ago. It is really enlightening The virtual energy wall Article Last Updated:12/04/2006 06:40:06 AM PST THE problem of Iraq looks like such a mess that it's hard to figure out not only where we are but what to do next — if we decide to leave. Whenever I find myself trying to think through a problem in the Middle East like this, I start small and refer back to the core Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It can tell you a lot. I believe the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is to the big "clash of civilizations" now under way between the Muslim world and the West what the Spanish Civil War was to World War II. The Spanish Civil War, 1936-1939, was the theater where Great European powers tested out many weapons and tactics later deployed on a larger scale in World War II. Similarly, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been the small theater where many weapons and tactics get tested first and then go global. So if you study the evolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, you can learn a lot about how the larger war playing out in Iraq and Afghanistan might proceed. The Oslo peace process, which David Makovsky, of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, calls an "attempt by Israel to empower a Palestinian partner with whom to negotiate," was first tried there and then, in a different way, moved to the big stage with the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. These were a U.S. effort to create Arab and Afghan partners to push a progressive, democratic agenda in the Muslim world. Unfortunately, Oslo failed, and now Iraq and Afghanistan seem to be failing. What's next? Again, start by looking at what happened in the Israeli-Palestinian theater. Israel decided to just build a wall. As a result of the Palestinian intifada of 2000-2004. Israel concluded that partnership at that time was impossible with the Palestinians, whose leaders were too divided and dysfunctional to prevent suicide bombings. So Israel erected a wall, unilaterally pulled out of Gaza. What would be the equivalent for the West and the Muslim world? Also build a wall? Some people want to do that by vetoing Turkey's entry into the European Union, which would be a huge, huge mistake. Build a virtual wall. End our oil addiction. We need to end our dependence on this part of the world for energy, because it is debilitating for us and for them. We are the oil addicts and they are the oil pushers. The only way we can be brutally honest with them is if we undertake the necessary conservation measures, investments in renewable fuels and a gasoline tax hike that could make us energy independent. I do not want my girls to live in a world where the difference between a good day and bad day is whether Muqtada al-Sadr lets Iraq's prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, meet with the U.S. president or whether certain Arab regimes alter what their textbooks say about non-Muslims. I wish them all well, but I don't want them impacting my life and I don't want to be roiling theirs, and the only reason we are so intertwined now is O-I-L. Not only would ending our oil addiction protect us from the worst in the Arab-Muslim world, it would help us support the best. These regimes will never reform as long as they enjoy windfall oil profits, which allow them to maintain closed societies with archaic education systems and protected industries that can't compete globally. The small Persian Gulf state of Bahrain just held its second free election, in which women could vote and run. Bahrain is also the first Arab gulf state to start running out of oil. No accident. Everyone asks what is our "Plan B" for Iraq. Answer: It's get out as soon as we can, with the least damage possible, just as Israel got out of Gaza. And then build a wall — not a physical wall, but a wall of energy independence that will enable us to continue to engage honestly with the most progressive Arabs and Muslims on a reform agenda, but without being hostage to the most malevolent. Thomas Friedman writes for the New York Times.

How will they recognize a region whose folks are not united for a common cause and that would propel the outcome of illusive recognition into a full scale tribal war. The little stability and peace we have in the North will vaporize and may have a trickling effect on the whole Somalia. Some of the regions it claims are part of Puntland State. You might have an inner sense that the NSPU should have held meetings long time ago if they were a truthful to their objectives and goals and why at this time? One of the speakers indicated their long silence and intentions were to avoid bruising their ego and ruining the process of regional redevelopment and stabilization. They have indeed achieved something in some of their clan areas. I think it is not a mistaken priority for NSPU to abort political independence of the North when Hargeisa nominally claims regions like Sool and Sanaag they have no real power to capture. Taliban, explain to me how is this conference a diversion of more important issues? Shouldn't the ICU support the government as they vowed before instead of waging war on peaceful cities and leaving significant but fundamental social services unfinished in Mogadisho and the occupied Deap South. Islamic courts can effect real change in Mogadisho if they create a familiar adminstration. They don't even have adminstratino.

Faysal Cali Waraabe oo ka digay Maxkamadaha Islaamiga ah, Sidoo kalena sheegay in laga Hortago beesha gobolka Sanaag oo doonaaya…… Faysal Cali waraabe oo ah gudoomiyeha Ururka UCID ayaa wuxuu shalay carabka ku dhiftey kana digay culummo uu ku tilmaamay inay la shaqeynayaan maxkamadaha diiniga ah ee koonfurta Soomaaliya. Wuxuu sheegay in Culumaa’udiinku ay caqabad ku yihiin dowlada woqooyi galbeed ee Soomaaliland, ay isla markaasna la doonayaan shirqool lagu damacsanyahay in looga horyimaado maamulka. Ugu Dambeyntii wuxuu gudoomiyuhu sheegay in Beesha Gobolka Sanaag ay sameysanayaan maamul, maamulkaas oo uu ku tilmaamay mid aan dan u ahayn dowlada 'soomaaliland', wuxuuna ku baaqey in laga hortago hirgalinta maamulkaas sida ugu dhaqsiyaha badan. Wuxuu kaloo gudoomiyuhu Cambaareeyey shir Soomaaliyeed oo ka dhacay magaalada Washington DC ee dalka Mareykanka, shirkaas oo ay soo abaabuleen Hay'ada Nabadeynta ee qiirada wadaniga ah leh ee Somali Unity. Hadalka Faysal Waraabe ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmay goor laba todobaad ka hor ay dowlada hoose ku qabsatey Faysal eedeeymo loo soo jeediyey in uu ahaa Basaas/Jaajuus u adeegi jirey maamulkii burburey ee Siyaad Bare waqtigii kacdoonka woqooyi galbeed, sidoo kale waxaa ay maxkamada hoose ku eedeysay inuusan heysanin wax shahaado ah oo cadeynaya inuu Engineer yahay. Sikastaba ha ahaatee Baaqa Cambaareynta ah ee Faysal Waraabe ayaa dadka intiisa badan waxay ku tilmaameen in Gudoomiyuhu yoolka saaran uu iskaga jeedinayo dhinacyo uusan hadhow ka tukubi Karin. Xusni Maxamed Farey Hargeysa Dhahar Online

No they are not entertainers but advocates of the political reality and their aim is to bring peace and unity to the North,first and then spread positive outcomes to the south. "Bal Xeerada idin dhextaala si uun yeela." Xeerada waa ku heshiin doona inshallah.

Good article, thanks.

^attack his message. You seem to be running out of constructive words.

The conference was held in response to the conference held by the secessionists and it has nothing to do with the current situation in Baidabo and foreign troops. The secesionists are making this case that the South is a breeding ground for terrorists and won't have a viable adminstration. They were appealing for recognition based on this premise. The NSPU tried to respond that division and misrepresention of the region's political fact that the so called "Somaliland" is limited to small areas of the old protectorate and does not represent all Northern folks. Btw, this meeting was gathered by people whose fathers hail from the North such as Sanaag and Sool regions, including representives from Awdal region. As Faisal Roble and Yasmin mentioned in their interview with James Butty, VOA, they are not supporting either camp: TFG or Islamic courts, but would like them to resume the talks in Khartoum and refrain them from further conflicts. They are for peace and unity.

^Somaliland is a region in the Federal System and not a reincarnation of old colonial protectorate. So these men's gatherring in Washigton centers on the stalemate that Somaliland’s absence from our reconciliation adds complexity to our problem because “Somaliland” is not politically independent (has yet to achieve international recognition) economically not viable (The region is desolate tract of land that lack resources, case in point is how its former colony neglected it), and not socially cohesive entity ( Sool and Sanaag populace are predominantly opposed to secession, a population that is 50% of this former geographical protectorate). They are for peace and unity.

"I believe that residents of mogadishu have every right to defend themselves, properties and dignity and faith, if they choose islam as their faith, its should not be for convenience, its a complete set of a devine regimen, applying parts of it and discarding parts is more damaging to Islam as a brand as it makes it ineffective. ( The Sharia will only be applied on common thiefs, not on powerful head of Qabiil)" Nuur, I do agree with you here and you seem to acknowledge that our people in Mogadisho do apply parts of the God's law and discard other parts, thereby rendering the implications of Sharia laws inadequate. Since you put a condition on their(Mogadisho residents) acceptance to rule themselves according to the prescriptives of Islam, and so have a right to defend their faith and dignity provided that they meet the complete "set of divine regimen", would it matter then to be silent when the religion has only been applied to minority groups and used as a political tool? I think you should be the first one here to address the issue and expose the faults of these so called Islamic courts. If you remain silent of the distortions of our religion and defacement of our morals, then you are strongly and equally accruing personal sins, ESP when you only defend the permenant teaching of our religion and disregard the unintended consequences of using Islam as a political tool.

Kamalu-Din: Every body knows what I stand for "Federalism", because it is solution to somalia's problems. A)qolo kastaa waxii ilaahey siiyey ayay heleysaa. B) qolo walbaa waxii ay iska dhigto ayay noqonaysaa C)qolo ku xirmayso qolo kale majirto siiba qolo ku xirmaysa Hamar majirto. D) qolodii raadisaa dowlad dhexe waa qoladii dan gaara ka leh sida qoloyinkaan xamar jooga oo hadana kufaana dadkii ayaan dhamaynay oo baro kicinay. I agree with you on this point Kamal.

"conciliatory remarks" Duke, you nailed on the head.

Originally posted by General Duke: Red Sea , saxib your hypocracy is not as amusing as the fakery of the clan courts. You need to start with working to free with the aid of Rambo if you must, the wadaads behind bars in Hargaysa. You need to address the reason and make sure it never happens again, when a Suldan of a clan could be arreasted for declaring he wants his sub-clan to use Shariah Law. You need to get your leaders like Faisal Warrabe to stop attacking the Clan Courts and Djibouti. Charity dear lad starts at home. Has it occured to you that I don't even read Red Sea's rumblings of hypocricy. If i to picture this man's personality here. "Yes I was Red Sea but now Ridwaan--From geographical identification to religous Identity. I will defend my "Somaliland" regardless of what is said of it, won't address its inherent, unresolved issues and human rights abuse. Nevertheless, I will focus on things I basically don't politically and culturally associate with and in fact would never be part of it. I do approve and think of our Northern to be very distinct and different than the south. Yes we are a country of its own"" I as a Caamir have decided to fastly scroll down those rumblings.

I doubt this news is true , but there are Nomads trying to justify whatever is said of our religion even if it is wrong. Brothers, you are not doing any good for the religion if you justify that which is not justifiable or has no basis or foundation. It is a dangerous precedent to future Ijmas, which is the third principle source of Shariah law. Not only it is wrong to pass and enforce capital punishment against the deviation of prayers but it is something that the Muslim community would never agree upon. Thoughts to defend such punishments would complicate matters, debase our religion, and increase the scarcity of the tolerance that our religious teaches us. Even, it is not easy to stone death someone who commits adultery unless we have four witnesses at the time and place of the incidence. Let us not manifest hubristic confidence in everything said of our religion even if you don't know any knowledge that could back up your claims. Should these matters rise, I would discuss with religious scholars, make a research on the validity of strict laws in Islam and look to precedents, ESP at the time of the Caliphs.

Originally posted by Kamalu Diin: quote: Originally posted by me: ^^ been asking you the same question for months on end. Red Sea choose sides old man, you can't play for both sides. Incase you didnt understand the question, the question is about if you support a PAN-SOMALI ISLAMIC STATE. Eventhough this question is directed to Mr. Red Sea I would like to answer for him. the dream of Somaliweyn has collapsed, and The people you calling for Unionist (clancourts) whom are frontrunners for occupation,and myhamn. Every one of us icluding federalist such as people of Bay, Bakool, and Puntland, and the secionist of Somalialand are much healthier minds then Unionist and Centralists because they are not honest about their call. I would like to tell them "practice what you preach" first then come for dialogue.Kamal, If one part of your body aches, how will the rest of your body feels?

Kashafu, the Islamic courts is as power hungary as the president, but the president has legitimacy and U.N mandate to rule Somalia for five years. Why can't we wait for five years of his rule and then change him with whoever is better. Instead of being patient, we cause more mayhem and death to innocent people. Let us see if the ICU supports this time the U.N Resolution, which excludes the neighbouring countries. More importantly, Ethiopia welcomed the resolution and promised to lend a hand.

^I think he meant the Qaadiriya sect. Little error.

Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: Somali politics is indeed very strange. It is indeed strange and revolves around Qabil. Abdillahi Yusuf is opposed simply because he belongs to an unwanted clan, ugly but true. The question that comes to mind is who elected HIM. If we say warlords elected, well how many warlords out of 275 members are in the Parliament?

Thanks Kamal.

What is the approx # of one battalion?

Kamal, you're not making any sense except fueling the conflict and turning into tribalism. Some of the persons you have there are ministers of the TFG and no longer a warlord. It is Abdiqasim who had been very fastidious in his plots when he was the president of TNG. He is believed to be the mastermind of the Islamic courts. You should debate current issues and its political landscape , not the past. It is not relevant and hides ulterior motives.

Ok what we have here, whirling smokes?