The U.N still holds its contingency plan under consideration, but what has this got to do with the promise of African Union. It is the African Union that pledged to send troops to Somalia, not the United Nations. The U.N. can only help the AU by providing the financial means to carry out its military operation. Dragging of dead bodies is a form of resistance for the anti-peace movement that proved to be successful during the Operation Restore Hope in 1993. It should not budge the AU and the government from achieving its ends: restoring peace and centralized government, which our people have been denied over a decade and half.

It is my patriotic honor to share with you this monumental document, which sets the record of the former British Protectorate straight. It is a Hard copy from the colonial office There was no legal Independence for "Somaliland". The Independence date for the protectorate was a mere preparation to unite the protectorate with the state of Somalia. Particularly, read Constitutional Conference, 9th February, 1959 Annex II Report of the Somaliland Protectorate Constitutional Conference. http://nspu.org/publications/SL_Constitutional_Conference_In_London_In_May_1960.pdf Ps. I am currently so busy. I will be back when the time permits, IA.

By GREGG AAMOT MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - For years, Abdurahman Ali Osman worked behind the scenes on creating Somalia's fragile government. Now he wants to lead it. The St. Paul man is among a handful of Somalis in line to become prime minister in Somalia, where the premier stepped down last week amid growing violence after losing a power struggle. "I am confident that I am someone who can produce change in a peaceful way," Osman said this week, just days before he planned to leave for the southern Somali city of Baidoa, home of an interim government that was formed in 2004 with hopes of ending a civil war that began in 1991. As many as 60,000 Somalis have found refuge in Minnesota, including many of the country's elite, who for years have shuttled between the Twin Cities and Somalia as part of efforts to form a stable and lasting government there. Their hope is that the country will become stable enough for them to return for good someday. Osman helped negotiate as clans vied for power in the temporary government and once worked as a political adviser to the former prime minister, Ali Mohamed Gedi. President Abdullahi Yusuf must name a successor within 30 days of Gedi's resignation, giving Osman just weeks to make his case. Jahir Jibreel of Minneapolis, who worked as Yusuf's chief of staff for more than two years until returning to Minnesota, said Osman is one of six or seven people Yusuf is considering for the job. Jibreel said the next prime minister must have the support of not only Yusuf but also the U.S., the U.N., the European Union and neighboring countries such as Ethiopia. Osman is also from the Abgal clan from which Yusuf wants to choose a successor, Jibreel said. "By this criteria, Abdurahman scores high," he said. Osman said the country must be secure, reconcile its political factions and address growing humanitarian needs. "Sixteen years of civil war is too long and needs to be settled, but we need the help of the international community," he said. Osman's reputation suffered a blow when he went to work as a spokesman for the Council of Islamic Courts, an Islamist militia that took power across much of southern Somalia last year before being ousted. Remnants of the militia continue to fight on, and thousands of civilians have been killed. Osman said he cast his lot with the group because he believed it would be moderate and bring badly needed stability to the country. The Islamists also overthrew the hated warlords who ran Mogadishu. However, after the organization was widely blamed for the murder of a Swedish journalist and other atrocities, Osman quit his post. "This is wrong," he recalled thinking. "This is not Islam." Even so, Osman's connections with the secular government and the moderate forces within religious groups could help his cause, Jibreel said. "Whoever becomes prime minister has to have credentials of creating good reconciliation among Somalis, and he has some affiliation, or background, with religious groups and can use that as leverage in bringing some of them on board -- the moderates, not the radicals," Jibreel said. He added: "So, from my perspective, however awkward that was, it could be a positive point for him." Osman, a U.S. citizen, came to the United States in 1983, graduated from Sacramento State and eventually moved to Minnesota in 1999 to be near relatives of his wife, Saido Hassan, a St. Paul nurse. In Minnesota, he has worked as a business consultant, a consultant to the city of St. Paul and Ramsey County and as an interpreter for the state Supreme Court. His life in the Somali diaspora has also led to stays in Kenya, Djibouti, Malaysia and other countries. "In terms of experience, I am someone who understands the global view," he said. "I see the suffering in Somalia and then I come back to Minnesota and see how things are functioning -- how things work. And I get a little jealous about it." Source: AP

Originally posted by Socod_badne: The whole region seems to be going to hell in hand basket. Have you been living under a rock? I find it misleading that you solely hold the TFG, Uganda, and Ethiopia responsible for Mogadisho's mayhem. All of these news trends and events about the plight of our people have coincided primarily with Eritrea's declaration of sponsoring violence in Somalia. It is a matter of time when the U.S. and the world tags it as a country that sponsors terrorism. Imposing increasing restrictions on Eritrea is at best seen as an indispensable undertaking. But Eritrea denies its ties with the clan insurgents to deceive us and the world and to avoid putting itself in a diplomatic risk. Eritrea is at war with Ethiopia, so basically Somalia is a country it can effectively utilize in its proxy war with Ethiopia. To many Somalis, hypocritically, Eritrea is an indispensable ally. How is that different from the TFG asking the assistance of Ethiopia? You talk about piracy but neglect to mention that there was no piracy before Ethiopia invaded during the ICU rule. And that's because the ICU cracked down on piracy unlike the TFG. Five months is too small of a period to use as a benchmark. Even so, piracy was reported at many times in the central regions. Since it is imperative to admit that ICU was gaining a considerable momentum and misguided attention in its short duration of wielding control over Mogadisho its military confrontation and expansion and threats with the rest of country while failing to fuse its improvised, disparate courts should give unassailable conclusion that the ICU was a unilateral clannish entity under the guise of religious garb Yuusuf wanted to bring Ethiopian troops to help him massacre and make life living hell for the Somali people, especially for the residents of Mogadishu. The act to move his government to Jowhar was provocative one. History has vindicated those who opposed him then. Yuusuf should be standing in trail at the Hague for War Crimes. Now you are divulging to us a conspiracy theory. Is this what you believe that Yusuf harbored malice aforethought to massacre a certain clan/residents of Mogadisho by using Ethiopia? And to make matters more complicated, there's no peace to keep. Somalia needs peace makers not peace keepers. You right we need peacelords despite having foreign aid and military endorsement of the United Nations. You have already constructed the good story to justify the need for peacemakers but have you ever thought that peacemakers are systematically targeted by the insurgents. How many Doctors and those who formerly served our nation are assassinated each day? What about this, you are going to ask for water soon But to facilitate the understanding of the term warlord which many of you label with the current members of Parliament who previously engaged in acts of warlordism, the term warlord encapsulates a non-political figure who wields a significant power in a certain territory. And there exist a virtual absence of administrative functions. There is also a private military apparatus entirely controlled by that person. Since TFG's primacy in Somalia began, do you see the existence of such elements today? Isn't that a progress if we discount the suicide bombers (alien culture), hijackers, and the hit and run guerilla warfare in the streets of Mogadisho? So the two conditions for Ethiopian withdrawal are infeasible and will never materialize..Thus, Ethiopian presence is permanent.[/ A piece of advice, don't ever use Will never this premise of yours fails to credit the objectives or plausible alternatives which then leads to incorrect conclusion.

Originally posted by GJ: quote:You fear for the future, and you fear that once the south is magically pacified According to you how many years/decades will it take for the South to be "magically pacified"? GJ, the insertion of the "magic" word shows why Somalia's conflict and politics are very intricate and complex. It also shows how difficult it is to reverse the entrenched mindset of historic marginalization. The Anti-centralized government movement in Somalia manifests itself in different forms and it is very hard to explain, but one distinctive aspect of it is that there are many different groups/persons whose interest is to keep Somalia in its anarchic situation or disintegration into several entities.

Originally posted by Castro: ^^^^^ Anyone who thinks that satirical (nay genius) post of mine is pro-secession is suffering from dementia. Picking on these guys is too easy, walaahi. They're like sitting ducks. This is too much. LOL. That is a distancing language I surmise. I suggest that you also observe the golden rules of the site. All you could have done is unequivocally retract your statement however unsound it was to its original message.

That soldier can be a good singer walaahi. I know Fuaad, the bride groom in the video. lol "Wallee Fuaad ciyaarta waa yaqiin," odayga codka weyn sounds like my old grandfather.

Only Allah can judge me how sincere I am for the revival of our country.

Originally posted by Castro: We know. Your admiration for Malcolm X cannot possibly compete with that you hold for coward, dabo-dhilif, war criminal and by far the worst a Somali woman has ever given birth, Yey. I wonder how you sleep at night. Oh really! Your records speak volume of your character and hidden motive. If i am not mistaken, it was clear to anyone prior to the Ethiopia's intervention your innermost political personality in supporting and advocating for the secession of "Somaliland, even formulating recommendations of the development of an identity seperate from that of the south. You fear for the future, and you fear that once the south is magically pacified, the TFG or centralized Somali government has the legal personality to crush the secessionist and preserve its own territorial integrity. You underlined, perhaps subconsciously, a possible scenerio at one of Jacaylbaro's thread in which you said, "Somaliland is unable to defend itself against skirmishes with (the other deluded entity) Puntland so how will it defend itself against the US/Ethiopian backed TFG? Link But I will post for all to see a commentary you posted on June 26, 2005 and I will highlight your main assertions and sincere support for the secession of "Somaliland" from the rest of Somalia. I personally have no problem with Somaliland. Its existence or lack thereof is immaterial to my day to day living. The same goes with Somaliweyn, if and when it returns to civilization. I do, however, think that the use of the name Somali in Somaliland is not fair to Somalia. I have never heard of anyone ever wanting to have Djibouti rejoin Somalia. Pakistan and India are done. Imagine if Pakistan were to be called Indianland. What about Czechoslovakia? It's now Slovakia and conveniently, the Czech republic. No problem there. Yoguslavia became Serbia, Macedonia, Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia. Totally distinct names for new nation states. The former Soviet Union is now Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine and Uzbekistan. It is highly unlikely that any of these break away republics would ever become one again . For countries that did separate but kept their names similar (if not identical except to indicate geography) the separation didn't last long. And for those that are still separate, they are seriously courting each other. Examples are North and South Vietnam, East and West Germany, North and South Yemen, and North and South Korea. It seems to me then, that one of the basic tennants of separation into nation states is to have distinct names. Somalia and Somaliland have a problem right there. "But people in the northern part of the former Somalia have an inalienable right to self-determination", scream many decent Somalilanders. And rightly so. Once they have chosen to exercise that right, however, it is incumbent upon them, having been the initiators of said divorce, to simply leave the name Somali to Somalia. There are literally an infinite number of names the new nation can adopt to better describe what it represents. A sense of its history, its culture, it people and their uniqueness. But wait, none of those things are unique. In fact, except for a few minor cosmetic differences (such as dacawo vs. dawoco and who was colonized by who), the two "countries" are identical. So what's the problem. Is it Somaliweyn that is begging and pleading, sometimes even threatening, Somaliland to stay? Or is it Somaliland that is having severe separation anxiety? Often screaming to Somaliweyn, why do you want to keep us? we don't want you! In fact, no one is screaming stay on the other side. No one cares. Not anymore. For all intents and purposes, the two nations are separate. All that remains for this to become a complete non-issue is for Somaliland to kindly and peacefully give up the word "Somali" from its name and Somaliweyn will never bring this up again. I promise. Link ,

rudy, According to the American psychologist and philosopher William James, "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices". I understand the gravity of the situation but who is determined on burying the last ditch of hope for Somalis? I intend on bringing the two sides of the conflict to the table but it is every hard to uncover their basic differences, assumptions or principles. When ICU managed to pacify Mogadisho, It was Sheikh Uweis, according to the famous writer Nurudin Farah, who questioned the legitimacy of the president coming to Mogadisho with his own troops from Puntland? It is all about tribal in their political orientation and many people in this site wrongfully assume I support the government based on tribal affiliation. But my support of the government trancends tribal affiliation as my own clan doesn't even have a major stake in it in par with what the opposition group/clan wants. If you also think I am too partisan, you have it my records to see and evaluate how I seriously want the reconfiguration/reconstruction of our own state. My question to you is, with the full support of the whole world behind us can we afford to lose this golden chance like we did in 1993?

Mogadishu: city of fear; Land Without Hope Edmonton Journal 4 November, 2007 Paul Salopek Fourteen years after the Americans pulled out of Somalia, people in the capital city are hungry, afraid and desperate to flee, transforming Mogadishu into a colossal ghost town MOGADISHU, Somalia - There are so many ways to die in Mogadishu. You can walk, as an old lady here recently did, into the path of a roadside bomb planted by Islamic rebels. The insurgents haven't perfected their timers. They missed the passing government patrol. The grandmother was decapitated. Just as likely -- and lucklessly -- you might cross paths with renegade units of the half-starved government troops. Just weeks ago these forces shelled the Hawa Abdi displaced persons camp with an anti-aircraft cannon. They wanted to steal the camp's donated food. Armed refugees fought back fiercely. Everyone is hungry in Mogadishu. And, of course, that can kill you too. Shops are closing. The price of rice has doubled. And skeletal, ocean-eyed babies are appearing at the city's few feeding centres -- tiny harbingers of a man-made famine. Finally, in a typically resourceful Somali twist, there is death by cellphone call. Mogadishu still offers one of the cheapest mobile phone services in Africa. Aid workers marvel at former city residents who hide in the bush, calling from cardboard hovels to request emergency food. Yet today even this remnant of normalcy is becoming an instrument of murder. "When the phone's screen says, 'Private Number' most people don't answer," said Abdirahman Yusuf Sheik, a sleep-deprived journalist with Radio Shabelle who receives up to four phoned death threats a day. "It means someone is calling to assassinate you." People have been reliably executed after such threats in Mogadishu. Sheik is desperate to flee. As many as 10,000 other terrorized urbanites a month are already voting with their feet, the UN says. And that's why this seaside African capital, the scene of the newest and perhaps murkiest front in America's war on global terrorism, is starting to look like one colossal ghost town. More than 10 months after Ethiopia invaded Somalia with covert U.S. help, ousting a radical Islamist regime and installing a secular government, the future of this vast, chaotic country that helped coin the phrase "failed state" still hangs in fragile balance. The weak transitional government has clung to power longer than any other national authority over 16 years of bloody clan brawls and outright civil war. But the remnants of the Council of Islamic Courts, a Taliban-like coalition that ruled much of Somalia for six months in 2006, are cranking up a ruthless insurgency. Some anti-terror strategists worry that the U.S. could be drifting once again, this time accompanied by its Ethiopian ally, into containing yet another open-ended rebellion and propping up a nation-building project that seems scripted straight from Iraq or Afghanistan. One sign of the challenges that lie ahead is the miasma of fear choking Mogadishu. Few outside aid workers or journalists travel these days to Mogadishu, easily Africa's most violent city. They are wise to stay away. A recent visit to this ruined capital revealed an eerily depopulated metropolis awash in threats, intimidation and political assassinations. Women are being shot by Islamic extremists for selling milk to occupying Ethiopian troops. The often unpaid and demoralized national police and army are hunkered at checkpoints in "green zones" of dubious government control. And all the armed groups are accused of egregious human rights abuses. Shabab, the guerrilla wing of the deposed Islamic Courts, is widely reported to deploy schoolchildren to chuck hand grenades at Ethiopian soldiers. Recently, government security officers are alleged to have raided a UN compound and snatched the senior food distribution official in the city. The government resents the UN for provisioning rebel-held areas. Twenty years ago Mogadishu was an Indian Ocean backwater where local women wore jeans and Europeans feasted late into the nights on cheap lobster. Today the UN estimates that fighting between rebels and the government has frightened away 400,000 people, or more than one-third of the city's wary population. Rail-thin women veiled Arab-style scuttle between bombed-out buildings. A few police battlewagons laden with heavy machineguns buck down the largely abandoned sand streets. And by nightfall the city's remaining families barricade themselves indoors. Mogadishu's city centre was destroyed in Somalia's 1991 civil war. It retains the elegiac stillness of a classical ruin -- like Pompeii. "Somalis learned to survive years of chaos under the warlords," said Mohamed Ibrahim, referring to the clan battles that mauled Somalia's capital in the 1990s. "But this is no longer human," said Ibrahim, a Somali who works for a Western medical organization and who now sleeps at a different house each night after receiving anonymous phone threats, probably from insurgents. "What you see around you is a whole city that is dying." Things weren't supposed to unfold this way when Ethiopian tanks roared across the border in December to topple Somalia's Islamic Courts movement, whose harsh rule at least brought calm to Mogadishu's feral streets. The new government, backed by thousands of Ethiopian troops, was supposed to usher in an era of national reconciliation. U.S. officials say they opposed the Ethiopian incursion at first. But eventually the Pentagon provided crucial satellite photos to the Ethiopians that helped crush the Islamic Courts militias. This was Washington's first military engagement in the Horn of Africa region since 1993, when 18 American soldiers died in a botched UN peace-enforcing operation popularized in the movie Black Hawk Down. Today, the faint sounds of propellers mutter over Mogadishu for hours every day. Embittered city residents say they are CIA drones launched from offshore warships, eavesdropping on local cellphone calls. If so, American intelligence officers have a lot of paranoia to sort through. Violent intimidation is fabled in Mogadishu. In recent months, Somali radio journalists have been shot on their way to work, blown up in their cars and had their offices raked by gunfire to dissuade them from reporting negatively on either the government or the Islamists. But less well-known is the explosion in threats against ordinary people. Most appear to come from technologically savvy rebels. "The calls are very matter-of-fact," said Ahmed, a telecommunications expert in Mogadishu who began receiving the dreaded "Private Number" calls after bidding for a government contract. He asked that his full name not be used. "They say, 'The bullet is coming' or 'Kiss your children goodbye tonight,' " Ahmed said. "Then they hang up." An impoverished man named Abdul was told: "You will be asking for water soon" -- a Somali reference to the burning thirst that comes from being gut-shot. His offence? Ironing the trousers of delegates at a recent Somali peace conference. He quit immediately and has sunk back to scrubbing clothes in his neighbourhood for a pittance. "The insurgents are threatening more and more people, it's true," admitted Abdi Hassan Awale, Mogadishu's overwhelmed police chief. "Their aim is to cripple us. We can't control the mobile phones." Awale noted that Hormuud, the Somali cellphone service, hawks phone cards on street corners for as little as $3, without contracts. Those making the threats block their phones' numbers. They use the card once. Their identities are untraceable. Another form of intimidation is simply killing without warning. According to more than 20 independent interviews, a sampling of spontaneous political murders in Mogadishu in recent weeks includes a tea seller shot when she sold food to despised Ethiopian patrols in the Hawl Wadaag district; a 12-year-old cigarette boy executed for doing the same in front of a Western medical clinic; two women shot after leaving an Ethiopian base at an old pasta factory; and a man killed for programming Ethiopian music into the occupiers' cellphones. And so the city shuts down in fear. Many of the shops around the national stadium have been shuttered, the local people complain. An Ethiopian base there has made business impossible. The shop owners were hit with death threats from both sides for selling -- or not selling -- snacks to the foreign troops. Meanwhile, the Ethiopians can't even change their paycheques into local currency. A Somali money changer was killed as an example to others. The Ethiopians have resorted to stopping buses at gunpoint and forcing drivers to cough up their bundles of almost worthless Somali shillings. "I don't recognize my people anymore," said Hawa Abdi, who runs the displaced people's camp outside of Mogadishu that was attacked by hungry troops. "I feel Somalia is lost. There is no Somalia. It is just a name." Trained in Ukraine as a nurse, Abdi, a Mogadishu native, has managed her sprawling camp for 17 years. She squinted out over its sea of huts, domed like Native American wickiups but fabricated from scraps of trash. The camp is growing. Refugees from Mogadishu are arriving at the rate of 50 a day. Some kept on walking, nobody knew where. Abdi put her hands gently on her head, as if her head hurt. "You can only stay frightened for so long," she finally said. "And I am really tired of it." Walking back to her office, she said she couldn't stay in Mogadishu anymore. Source: Edmonton Journal

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Anyway, his name does indeed ring a bell, especially about that book he co-authored [though officially credited as an editor], The Invention of Soomaaliya . And what did he write about the history of the Dervishes?

Puntland govt has 30 days to recapture Las Anod, says parliament GAROWE, Somalia Nov 4 (Garowe Online) - Legislators in Somalia's Puntland region have threatened to withdraw support from the regional administration if the city of Las Anod is not recaptured within a month. Puntland lawmakers met in the capital Garowe on Sunday where discussion was mainly centered on the deteriorating situation in Las Anod, provincial capital of Sool. Many MPs criticized the Puntland leadership over its mishandling of Las Anod and accused the government of mismanaging public funds. The region's parliament voted in favor of holding a confidence vote on the government of President Mohamud "Adde" Muse if Las Anod is not under Puntland control within the next 30 days. A written form of this decision will be handed over to the Office of President Muse on Monday, parliament sources said. Armed forces from the separatist region of Somaliland advanced on Las Anod on October 15 after Puntland troops retreated east towards Garowe. Somaliland forces were aided by local clan militias led by a disgruntled former Puntland government minister who switched loyalties. More than 20,000 civilians have fled Las Anod since the Somaliland takeover, creating a humanitarian situation according to local and international aid agencies. Residents in Puntland say that parliament's constitutional authority has been overshadowed by a strong presidency since the region's formation in 1998. Legislative decisions have been routinely ignored or overridden by presidential decrees. The parliament, currently in its 19th session, is supposed to debate about amendments to the 1998 constitution, in light of political changes in Somalia including the establishment of a transitional federal government in Mogadishu. President Muse promised MPs during his opening speech of parliament last week that "Las Anod will come back to our hands." Many people fear the outbreak of civil war in north Somalia, the only peaceful and governed region of the country. Source: Garowe Online

Kalfadhigii ugu Xiisaha badnaa golaha Wakiilada Puntland Doodii ugu kululayd ee dhexmarta Golaha Wakiilada Puntland tan iyo markaa la asaasay maamul goboleedka Puntland ayaa dhexmartay golaha wakiilada Puntland taas oo ay shegeen in masuuliyada lagu qabsaday gobolka Sool qeyb ka mid ah ay masuul ka yihiin golaha Xukumada iyo weliba kan Barlamanka Puntland. Furitaankii kalfadhigan ayaa waxaa ka soo qaybgalay Madaxweynaha DGPL Mudane Maxamuud Muuse Xirsi,madaxweyne ku xigeenka DGPL Mudane Xasan Daahir Maxamuud,wasiirka kalluumaysiga DFKMG ah Xasan Abshir Faarax,Golaha wasiirada Puntland,Isimo,hay’adaha Caalamiga ah,saxaafadda iyo dadweyne fara badan. Guddoomiyaha Golaha wakiilada DGPL Mudane Axmed Cali Xaashi Madaxweynaha DGPL Mudane Maxamuud Muuse Xirsi Wasiirka kalluumaysiga DFKMG ah Xasan Abshir Faarax Islaan Ciise Islaan Maxamed Wasiirka wasaaradda horumarinta Haweenka iyo arrimaha qoyska Mudane Caasho Geelle Diiriye Mataan Farah allsanaag.com

Garoowe: Baarlamaanka Puntland oo mudo uqabtey Xukuumada Cadde Muuse ay ku soo celineyso Laascaanood. 4. november 2007 Baarlamaanka Puntland oo mudo uqabtey Xukuumada Cadde Muuse ay ku soo celineyso Laascaanood. Garowe(AllPuntland)- Baarlamaanka dowlad gobaleedka Puntland oo maalmahaan ku jiray kalfadhigii 19-aad ee baarlamaanka Puntland ayaa looga doodey maanta qodob Sharci ah oo ku aadan difaaca dowlad gobaleedka Puntland. Difaaca Puntland oo baarlamaanku ka doodeen ayaa inta badan baarlamaanku soo hadal qaadayeen howlaha Xukuumada ugu talagashey Soo celinta Magaalada Laascaanood iyo guud ahaan sugida amaanka dowlad gobaleedka Puntland ,in ay wax ka ogaadaan. Fadhigii maanta oo doodiisu soo bilaabatey labo maalin ka hore ,ayaa Madaxweyne Gen.Cadde Muuse loogu baaqey in ay horyimaado golaha Shacabka si su'aalo looga weydiiyo qorshaha Xukuumadiisa ee Laascaanood. Qaarka mid ah Golaha ayaa ku dhaliilay Xukuumadu in ay ka gaabisey wax ka qabashada difaaca Puntland ,ayna xooga saartey arimaha dhaqaalaha ayagoo tilmaamay in looga baahan yahay fulinta dastuurka ,hadii Talaabo ay ka qaadaan baarlamaanka oo mideysan. Mudanayaal badan ayaa maanta ku doodey in Xukuumada loo qabto ,waqti cayiman oo ay dib ugu laabaneyso Magaalada Laascaanood. Xildhibaan Maxamed Yuusuf oo ka mid ah baarlamanka ayaa sheegay in Xukuumada loo qabtey in 30 Cisho gudahood in ay ku soo celiso Laascaanood kuna sugto amaanka dowlad gobaleedka Puntland. Wuxuu tibaaxay Xildhibaanku in inta badan Mudanaayasha baarlamaanku isku raaceen ,waqtigaasi Xukuumada loo qabto hadii uu waqtigaasi dhamadaana oo aysana fulin amarka baarlamaanka in dib loo eegayo sii jiritaankeeda. Fadhigan oo ahaa xasaasi ayaa baarlamaanku ugu danbeyntii ay iskugu soo laabanayaan Beri oo ah Isniin ,waxa ayna go'aankooda ugu danbeeya ugudbinayaan xaafiiska Baahinta dowlada oo ah xaafiiska Madaxweynaha dowlad gobaleedka Puntland Gen. Cadde Muuse Xirsi. Kalfadhiga 19aad ee baarlamaanka Puntland ayaa sii socon doona Bishan oo dhan ,waxaana looga doodayaa Nidaamka asxaabta badan iyo wax ka badalka dastuurka Puntland oo gudigii loo saarey uu haatan gabagabo marayo. Faarax C/qaadir Geylan AllPuntland

Originally posted by rudy: somali ppl never voted for tfg, it was shuffed down their throat. then markey ku margadeeyn, waa ku tufey. -->What is your suggestion then? Get back to the warlord era? or to the era of UIC whose composition and military aggression planted the seeds of their own destruction?

Listen to the Debate Radio Daljir House speaker, Xaashi Governor Ade

THE RESIGNATION OF GEEDDI IN SOMALIA A New Democratic Culture in the Country? By: Abdalla A. Hirad Saturday, November 03, 2007 The resignation of the former Prime Minister of Somalia, Mr. Ali Mohamed Geddi, was received as a sigh of relief for many Somalis and the international community—especially those who are particularly interested in the success of the TFG, which are many. Regarding the speech with which the PM ended his last job with all seriousness, one might find that he himself was relieved that he could get away with all the ease from the situation he found himself, the TFG and the country itself. By all indications, if it was not the Ethiopians and Americans who played a frontline mediation efforts to avert a more serious constitutional crisis of the TFG, the issue would have lingered longer than it did. But Ali Mohamed Geddi need to be thanked for taking the easy way out, rather than consternating the nation with a long political bleeding within the TFG, in addition to the ongoing physical bleeding in the fight against the TFG of the population section that calls itself the “insurgency”. Indeed, the PM himself said to the Parliament that he would start a new culture for them before he announced to them the fact that he had transferred his letter of resignation to the President, Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf. In turn, the President informed the parliament that he accepted the PM’s resignation and promised good future faith to members of the Parliament who are associated with the ex-PM, mentioning the names of some of them. He also promised to appoint a new PM within a month, according to the Federal Charter. But it requires a Pontific Maximums to replace a PM, at this stage of Somalia’s history, to cross the many bridges and bring about the necessary peace and unity in Somalia, after two decades of civil and political unrest. The first bridge the new Prime Minister will have to cross is working with the President of the Republic and the disjointed Parliament in Baidoa, which will produce the Cabinet as earlier decided. It is unlikely that the parliament will reverse its decision to let the Cabinet be appointed from outside. The second bridge he needs to cross is that with the “Traditional Elders of ****** Subclans” and the adverse groups now gathered in Asmara to ensure the pacification of the population of Mogadishu. It should not be overlooked that the same person who is supposed to pacify Mogadishu is also expected to be a political bedfellow of the Ethiopians. The third bridge he is supposed to cross is to ensure that all federal regions and states, including Somaliland, are brought within the fold of the TFG. The fourth bridge and the most important one in the medium term is to ensure that the Charter is reviewed so that a multiparty System is established, and electoral law is created and elections are conducted in the country by 2009. The question remains where will Abdullahi Yusuf find this individual? Although the contenders to the post are said to be numbering in their tens, there is no telling as to who will eventually succeed in obtaining the job? In all probability two factors way in the selection of the Prime Minister among many factors, by the President. One is that the Somali power sharing arrangement will weight high among the factors, in which case the Prime Minster will come from the ****** subclan of ****** like his predecessor. Period. The alternative is that Ethiopia’s influence will rein the situation in which case, the President will have to accept whoever is dictated by the indispensable foreign friend, as it has been alleged by some since the formation of the TFG. But the question is whether the ******, which is the most numerous subclan in Mogadishu, will find it plausible to remain the defenders of the TFG, par excellence, should the power shift to other subclans, especially the Habar Gidir? The Ethiopians and other external actors should, therefore, exercise caution in applying their pressure on the situation. Undue pressure can rock the situation too much; and with the operations of the un-ignorable insurgency taking its toll in Mogadishu, the impression that foreign actors have their influence more than is due can be very devastating to the fledgling TFG. The leadership in Asmara has often stated that Ethiopia has been the linchpin for the existence of the TFG, and has been calling for the exit of its troops from Somalia. In this regard, I heard a speech by General Jama Mohamed Ghalib about the history of Ethio-somali relations in the Website “Alqadisia”, the mouth peace of the adverse groups to the TFG. In addition to anything that an educated Somali would mention about the subject, he stated that Ethiopia was called Abyssinia when it recently named itself as Ethiopia. But he did not mention that Abyssinia had changed hands between the Amhara and the Tigrinya’s for centuries, until Menilik, the Second, ran away with the State to the south, choosing Addis Ababa as its Capital and annexing the southern and eastern chieftains, including that of Somalia, now known as the fifth zone. Today, Ethiopus means the black face and Addis Baba means the new flower according to Tigrinya sources. With the power changing hands between the Amhara and the Tigrinya for another time in 1992, the country is inching towards democracy, with a multiparty system and a constitution that recognizes the self determination of the annexed lands, as well as any identity, for that matter. Notwithstanding the recent article in wardheernews.com by an Ethiopian, entitled “Two State Solution for Somalia’, the country is now fighting for its sovereignty under threat from the ONLF, the UIC of Somalia, Eritrea, and some Amhara, most of whom are unhappy with the state of affairs in the country including the federal nature of the country and the regional autonomy given to the regional ethnicities. I dismissed the said article as part of the Amhara propaganda in their attempt to discredit Meles Zenawi’s Ethiopia. But I am sure that Rayale of “Somaliland” will jump over the opportunity of a “two State Solution” of Somalia, especially if it is suggested or accommodated by any Ethiopian leader. I am sure President Yusuf of Somalia and Ethiopian leaders will have to explain themselves to the majority of Somalis who are hurt by this scandalous story. By Abdalla A. Hirad E-Mail:MHirad@aol.com

Originally posted by Socod_badne: I myself support neither the Asmara group nor any group operating in Somalia. The only thing asked of you is to respect and recognize the God given and UN charter sanctioned right of every people to resist the foreign occupation of their country. There is a danger in the arbitrary judgment of "occupation". The EthiopiaN presence in Somalia at the moment is best judged for its temporary mission that rests on the international principle of pacifying a country racked by a seemingly an endless and brutal tribal war. And as Frazier said, "this is an outcome of the reconciliation and counter outcome measures". It began when Yusuf's government first set foot in Jowhar and the Islamist threatened to capture the town of Jowhar inching on its direction by just few miles. I think they even had a minor armed confrontation in which the fledgling government managed to defend itself. We just need to grasp how the global system works and how the territorial integrity of every country that is a member of the United Nations is protected. For instance, Somalia's conflict is an internationalized conflict, so the world must help Somalia prop up a legitimate regime that can put up institutional structures essential for the reconfiguration of our nation state, one which is collaborative with the international system in promoting and strengthening world peace and security and most importantly guiding it into a permenant government by 2009. You can now see how piracy thrives in our Somali coast and engage in activities that hamper commercial sea lanes. See my discussion of Internationalized Conflict The prerequisite for Ethiopia's Withdrawal from Somalia is getting other forces in, that is the position of--UN, Arab League, and the U.S to avoid a big vacuum. The TFG understands the antediluvian ideas of animosity of the two nations. This widespread sentiment and fear is what frames decisions to deploy AU peacekeeping troops funded by the United Nations, and currently Burundi is about to send peace keepers. However, I personally doubt if the full deployment of AU would still change the political climate in Somalia. The hegemonic insurgents would still maintain their position of resisting any form of governance and international concern. Doesn't that presumption signal pessimism? Who gave c/yuusuf the mandate to ask for "assistance" of Ethiopia? Did the residents of Mogadishu get a vote? Did you get a vote? I know I didn't get a vote. Residents are represented by the MPs and they voted in the parliament in Baidabo for the deployment of AU troops. Aren't they constituents or residents of a district represented by an elected official?

Originally posted by Xoogsade: Caamir I must have met then three out of five in the list At least there is hope for me. I can work on the other two though I do not think you do me justice And I am better than you are despite falling short in B and C. As far as my observation of you is concerned, yes you met all other three. I want justice for all Somalis. I want to see a representive government, an end to the anarchy, to preserve our national unity, and to ensure that no region, town, or village becomes a captive to a warlord from another region. What is happening in Somalia is human rights violations and the law of the jungle. Something has to be done to reverse the state of nature where everyone is motivated by a fear, and what they fear is each other. The verbal onslaught on the TFG began not now but before it even secured a foothold in Mogadisho. Simply, the characteristics of Somalis as a segmentary society hinders them to think beyond the clan interest. But there is a hope for our country if we lean to the optimistic side of reconstituting our state with sincere intentions.

Great article, our prime minister redeemed himself by resigning honorably, to borrow Haikal's words. ------------------------------------- I Know What You Did Last Summer By Heikal I. Kenneded October 27, 2007 One chokingly hot and humid evening early last summer, June 25, 2007, to be precise, Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi was in Washington D.C. He was on his way to New York City to address the UN Security Council. This globe-trotting trip was part of the PM’s diplomatic efforts to rally the international community to deliver much required political support and humanitarian aid for our collapsed nation-state -- Somalia. During his short sojourn in Washington D.C., hundreds of Somalis in the Diaspora poured into the capital - from all the corners of the Northern America continent. They enthusiastically cheered the arrival of the vivacious, eloquent, and relatively young Prime Minister in the U.S. Everyone showed up dressed in their best suits, as they waved his photo alongside our downtrodden sky blue Somali flag to rekindle our waning patriotism. That evening, the emotional nostalgia among the Diaspora in North America was palpable. After all, we all thought our spoiled dream of returning to our homeland was finally within reach. Some of my friends expressed a great respite that finally, one of our generation was at the helm of the Somali government, unlike the previous geriatric corrupt old men who were a product of their former colonial masters. It was love at first sight. In fact, we all had a George W. Bush “moment” when he first met President Putin of Russia, and childishly declared: “I had looked into his eyes and saw his soul and knew he was trustworthy.” Likewise, we gaped at Gedi’s front gap-toothed wide smile and thought he was a saint. Boy, did we set up ourselves for another miserable failure the moment we allowed to put our hopes and dreams on a man like PM Gedi who turned out to have the conscience of an insolent despot. The Somali community in the greater Washington D.C. metropolitan area worked itself into an unprecedented patriotic spirit and energy in welcoming the PM. He stayed at a Four-Star Sheraton hotel, where people waited for hours on a workday, Monday night, just to get a glimpse of our nation’s newest hero. Equally, the U.S. government honored the PM in providing him the necessary security details that are only reserved for respected delegates from friendly allied countries. As the main event of that memorable evening commenced, there was a high level of exhilaration in all attendees’ eyes. It began with orchestrated speeches, poetry and buraanbur of some of the audience that went on into the wee hours of the night. One of the most ardent followers of PM Gedi’s was the genius Somali poet, Professor Mahamud SiadTogane, who that evening for close to an hour sang and chanted the praises and idolatry elevations of Gedi, like a deranged idol worshipper. It was a déjà vu all over again of another era, when all Somalis used to march to the wicked drumbeat of Siyad Barre’s tyrannical regime back in the 1970s. Afterwards, Gedi took to the podium and spoke for only few minutes that were paused with deafening applauses and patriotic chants. In his speech, he clearly outlined the daunting task that faces the TFG, and reiterated his personal commitment to see to it that he delivers the agenda of his government: political stability based on broad reconciliation, and an expedited reconstruction of the country’s infrastructure. Later that evening, I ran into several acquaintances who came in tow with their long, embellished resumes, as they networked to pass them to the PM’s confidants. They hoped to realize their longtime dream of going back in their country in order to participate in its long overdue reconstruction and reconciliation process. Unfortunately, whenever people hinge their hopes and dreams on shady characters like that of PM Gedi, they are bound for a devastating disappointment. Thus, this parable (morale della storia) should serve as a cautionary tale for all Somalis to be wary of all cult-like following support of untested leaders. How naïve and gullible we were when we all jumped on the bandwagon of the PM and rallied around him, as we called our US Congressmen and Senators to encourage their unwavering backing of the Somali PM and his fledgling government. We assured everyone, including the media and other local sympathizers that PM Gedi was the “one” and deserved our staunch support. We advocated for strong U.S. engagement in Somalia’s affairs, in order to help address the deteriorating security situation, political instability, and staggering economic challenges on the ground. If you attended that fateful evening’s main event, you’d have been captivated by Gedi’s charisma and devotion to his country’s plight. He displayed all the signs of a driven, honest, and modest leader of the people. So, what did Gedi do after he departed from the US? He maliciously capitalized our steadfast support of him and he reciprocated our emotionally blind trust in him, by elevating his stature to that of a powerful despot, as he quickly consolidated his power, and then alienated many other members of his government, including his own Ministers and other parliamentarians. As soon as the PM left Washington, he also visited the oil rich kingdom of Saudi Arabia whose King conferred on Gedi a large sum of cash, in order to facilitate his resolving the TFG’s disputes with other opposition groups. Instead it is alleged that the PM pocketed every penny that he collected from foreign donors. Suddenly, PM Gedi felt so powerful and contemptuous that he shut the doors in the faces of his own ministers, thanks to the unfettered support that he continually received from his equally corrupt counterpart, PM Meles of Ethiopia. In other words, Gedi’s moral downfall stems from having too much power – absolute power that eventually corrupted him. I hate to be a bit too melodramatic, but it’s almost as creepy as the Halloween scary movie, the namesake of this article implies, about PM Gedi’s frightening change of personality. It is incredibly sad that a man like Gedi who had such a modest background in Somalia like many of us, as a humble, struggling young student at Gaheyr University, where he later served as an associate professor of Veterinary medicine before the war; then when he finally becomes someone important transforms himself into a ruthless tyrant that everyone resents. In fact, I was recently shocked to listen to Gedi’s latest speech that he made shortly after he returned from Ethiopia, where his support from his friend, Meles and that of the rest of the International community is waning like that of winter daylight. Word has it that he was advised to step down and give peace a chance. But as a fallen, desperate man, Gedi desperately tried in his speech to drive a wedge between the Somali people, lashing out those who vehemently denounced his draconian rule and inciting other hateful venoms. Gedi is now desperately trying to play the clan politics card, as he invokes and incites new civil-strife innuendos that he intends to bamboozle a new alliance among his clanships. It is despicable that now Gedi should resort to such degrading means after he failed to reconcile his differences with the President and other MPs in order to reach a common ground with the rest of the TFG government. Mr. Gedi as a PM since 2004 has a solid dismal record of disappointment after disappointment. Despite promises he made to perform at the speed of light to improve the security situation in the capital. He miserably failed to perform his duties because of his executive managerial incompetence and destructive self-importance. In addition, there’s a record displacement of the capital’s residents because the insurgency is thriving and killing record number of people, while there’s no sight of ending it. I hope you don’t think that I am cherry-picking bad examples to stack the decks against PM Gedi, in favor of President Yusuf and other parliamentarians. In reality the onus is now on the President and the parliament to prove themselves that they are worthy of our vote of confidence. First, President Yusuf and the Parliament should stand by their decision to sack PM Gedi. Then, they should set the example of good governance by amending the constitution in order to allow government ministers to come from outside of the Parliament. So the next PM could choose his Ministers from a pool of fresh faces. The courageous parliamentarians who didn't hesitate to express their frustration with the PM’s performance should allow this amendment to pass. Eventually, whether PM Gedi will redeem himself by either resigning honorably, or setting the record straight in order to do the right thing, remains to be seen. Nevertheless, he faces a daunting opposition in the parliament that is determined to oust him by any means necessary, so it is unlikely that he will succeed in remaining as a viable PM for long enough. I am of the opinion that Gedi lacks the necessary diplomatic competency level to carry the day and the Somali people to the next level. Because it is bad enough when a PM doesn’t get along with his President, but it is almost impossible to work against your own ministers and remain relevant. Instead of rallying around the Somali people and seeking their confidence in his administration, Gedi seems to be lost like a wandering gypsy by going back and forth to Ethiopia for “consultations.” Che peccato! Finally, Gedi can boast in jest of all the loot that he secretly pocketed during his notorious tenure as our poor country’s Prime Minister, but he will go down in history as one of the worst premiers who came into power during our country’s relatively young independent history. In addition, I can assure you that Gedi’s name will never be mentioned in the same breath as that of Joachim Chissano, the former Mozambique president who last Monday won the new coveted $5-million prize of Mo Ibrahim for African leadership. Heikal I. Kenneded Washington D.C. E-mail:heikalk@yahoo.com

^He has failed in both B and C. This is the man who had supported the occupation of the south and warlord IndhAde and all other warlords from the central region who had occupied the Deep South for all these years.

^ I concur but still whatever it takes to get this country on track. We have suffered enough.

Originally posted by Northerner: Caamir, why not display as much concern earlier this year in Xamar? I do it every time. The reason I criticize the government and the insurgents is to at least end the political impasse and in that way, our people who are caught in the cross fire would be rescued from their endless power struggle. You can look at my records and attest to this fact, but some people live not by the time and are so blind of the real politick in Somalia that they resort to name callings and other emotional diatribes. The Anti-government squad in this net does not have a viable alternative solution if the TFG is forced to exit. Even our brother Xiinfanin admits this weakness on the side of the so called freedom fighters. We all know of the impurity of the insurgents, inevitable miscalculations, the masked secessionists who see Yusuf's government as an end to the 17 long political campaigns for international recognition (Castro and others). Why would Castro have a nationalist fervor all of a sudden after 17 years of chaos and mayhem in Mogadisho? We have a right to be suspicious of the personal transformation of some members who have a record of being a long time secessionist advocators, so what gives them now the audacity and principle to tell others that they are more nationalist and that Ethiopia which is the linchpin of TFG has grand schemes to incorporate Somalia into Ethiopia, a logic that even defies history and the territorial integrity of nation states. TFG as a sovereign has the right to ask the assistance of another country whilst its very existence is under threat from radical group with alien culture in alliance with peace spoilers who had grown fat on the loot of the national property until the TFG's intervention??

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: "It does not include Sanaag, of course the state of Makhir" Caamirow, thinking like this is why somaliland occupies both capitals of Sool and Sanaag today ee maa joogted with this maakhir state nonsense. What would take, the occupation Badhan, dhahar or laas qoray? Which one is better? Remember if Sanaag were part of Puntland, the map of Somaliland by AlJazeera would have now included both of these regions. Maakhir's strong lobby from the diaspora helped in this case and you should appreciate the effort. I have discussed the advantages of this state many times and its legal implication. I am not going to repeat myself. You are mistaken if you think they occupy Erigavo. Erigavo has been a multi-clan city and it stays in that divide. The city is peacefully divided into Makhir and Somaliland.