^that is funny

Originally posted by Kool_Kat: Sheekha, isboorko waaxid...Hus baa lugu yidhi... Labo_Xiniinyood (gosh waaba ka xishoonaa inaan magacaaga qoree), thanks walaalo...It is very beautiful and powerful... lol Kool Kat, you remind me a similar reaction of my cousin to a friend whose moniker is Qooqaani, that was the town he was born. LX means a tough, hard working man.

Abdiladiif, you probably know him.

Laba-Xininyood, your clansmen were leading that war in Jidbaale. lol Keep it coming. Your translation is excellent.

Originally posted by *Blessed: I was born in an Arab country, their culture is a part of my roots but I'm NOT a national of that country. I know the differeing racist legislations of Arab states in regards to naturalization, esp the member countries of GCC.

The extra purchasing power the euro currency gives is paying off for the Europeans. More guests at Mr. Chaves’s hotels are seeing Broadway shows, from the orchestra seats, and he is making more reservations for them at expensive uptown steakhouses like Bobby Van’s, Maloney & Porcelli and Smith & Wollensky. (No word on whether the flush Europeans are tipping.) Matthias Jungkind, a 34-year-old financial controller from Düsseldorf, Germany, finds the low exchange rate laughable, literally. Every time he saw the dollar price tag on an item, he said, he giggled involuntarily.... Such tension could hurt the dollar further as countries like China, which holds the largest reserves of American currency outside the United States, see their dollar reserves sink in value and hurry to move them to other currencies. A Chinese official threatened to do that last month, though other leaders contradicted him. Source: Nytimes

J-11, you seem to be an isolated man. Kidding. Check ur p.m.

^I will try it tomorrow, IA. I have to go for now.

Thanks Nephthys for the definition. MMA, I don't know if you have realized it or not, the so called "Somali-Bantu" constitute a bigger percentage of the population of the south but they are still systematically marganilized, persecuted, and exploited.

Kool Kat, I would have busted him with that obtuse, playful statement, but I don't oftentimes act as regional chauvinist. I know the producer of most of Guled's songs, Salah Nur. Salah is a member of SOL, but I won't reveal him though, but appreciate the fact that he is one of the valued contributors of SOL.

Ghanima, Is there any meaningful difference between a dismemberment and an occupation of one country? I would give you the benefit of the doubt.

Don't be a simpleton. How do you determine she is not Somali or come to that naive conclusion? I am sure you missed all the terms we have been discussing.

Originally posted by Red Sea: Is he from Sanaag Camir? I don't even know him, but certainly he is not someone I know his family or unnecessarily his qabiil.

Whatever he was, May Allah rest him in peace. I am glad to see that people are not so immature towards Egal and his past as they are/were towards other good leaders.

Allaha ha naxariisto.

Ciidammada Xabashidu waxay markii ugu horraysay taariikhda si buuxda gacanta ugu dhigeen, oo xoog ama xeelad ku haystaan, dhammaan dhulka soomaalida, marka laga reebo Jabbuuti. and NFD I am surprised xiin that you would quote such a miserably uninformed person as his writing depicts. Ibrahim Hawd

fatboy, no I am not what you assume I am. I just wanted to share with you the good songs of this new artist. Baashi thanks for the suggestion. Rajo(Hope) is indeed off the hook and Kow Labo Kow.

MMA, you are steering this topic to the politics section. I would very much love to discuss with you on that topic in a new thread. Blessed, I like that pic in your profile. Reread her biography, it says Saba still adheres to her Somali roots. The reason her family was persecuted is what we basically are talking about right now. Libax, I have heard of Kola Boof but knew nothing of her. Of course Saba is more Somali than her. Thanks for the link

Blessed Our difference is that I am a civic nationalist where as you sound like an ethnic nationalist. I conceive of our nation-state and its membership in and loyalty to it in terms of citizenship, common law, (discount Somali’s break down) and political participation, whereas you conceive of our nation-state’s membership and loyalty to it in terms of lineage and nomadic culture. Hence I am not driven by a political desire to impress ethnically defined interests on the agenda of the Somali state, and in the process deprive our Somali people of their right to political participation and citizenship. It is beautiful to achieve the collective aspiration and unity of our entire Somali Speaking community, but that is a reckless adventure and it has been a recipe for extremism, exclusiveness, secessionism, and last but but least a possible international anarchy.

Let me share with you this great album. I just happened to listen to a sample of his songs and they sound great. Gulled Ahmed: Rising Star By Mowlid Omar December 11, 2007 Gulled, is a native of Somalia who now lives in Houston, Texas. He is extremely talented artist; musician, writer of lyrics and soloist, all in one, capable of astonishing us by his fast, timely and frequent creations of his magical music. His new album "Adamow" brings a unique triple talent of rapping, reggae and soulful tunes bringing together. The "ADAMOW" means "Man Kind”. Most songs are a mix of more than a little dancehall and reggae into his hip-hop style. The hard lyrics come from a hard life, which include the endless civil war of his country Somalia. Early this year, Gulled had the excellent opportunity to reconfirm his talent by releasing a new hit single “Hooyo”. In the mean time, the expectation of the public for his new release grew higher and higher. While Gulled continued to furnish his fans with his creativity through other artists such as Samatar, Cigaal, and Jubba. The album was released Eid day in North America, and it dominated the market for a long while, and people wondered if Gulled could give away such a quality work. The question is what would his personal performance looks like? To answer this question, the album release party was held in Safari restaurant at downtown Minneapolis on 27 October 2007, the party was off the hook. I mean, it was Hollywood style party. In my interview I asked Gulled what is his goal? He said, "As an artist, my whole goal is to make powerful and classic Somali music," Gulled continues, "I want everyone to feel my music and understand my heritage and where I'm from and that's what this album will do - my music is all about genuine”. Gulled wants to make it clear that he is not a copycat artist whose songs are mapped out for him - he comes up with new style and new lyrics 100 percent. Gulled also understands that as a young Somali making urban music is a responsibility to fans, he said, “With this album I thought it is important not to use a bias words or negative language that might offend people”. Gulled creates an urgent appeal "music with a message" because his whole life and existance depends on it. Such songs "Hagaajiyow" and “Rajo” with an extraordinary reggae beat, but with touching words and episodes; It's more than a song, it's something people raise arms for," explains Gulled" the term "Hagaajiyow" actually means "Fixer" and “Rajo” means “Hope” so when I recorded that in the studio, I imagined myself being in front of warlords, and I'm communicating directly to them". Most of the songs in the album were written by Salah Nur Donyaale who is in the same age bracket as Gulled and who is a very talented young man. I believe he got the best producer and manager Heykal and Southside - Gulled revealed, “together we’re a powerful force and I’m ready to share it with the world". Finally, the album 'Adamow' carries a unique and very ambitious content that tries to review the history of Somalia, with the urge to dissociate from its curse, and improving, changing, and raising its moral standard. Gulled's story is designed to be long and wonderful, no doubts. He has the modesty, the personality, the passion to stick to the art, and we wish him that his prayers towards Somalia will be accepted. He will continue to be a phenomenon to us. If any one had doubts about the natural, creative talent of Gulled, there was the concrete proof! A booming success!!! The album “ADAMOW” is available in stores near you or you can visit www.myspace/gulledmusic. Mowlid Omar mowlidomar@gmail.com Listen to a sample of Adamow

There are staggering statistics about many homeless children in the United States. Almost all of them faced sexual, physical and verbal abuse. These children develop violent behavior and become prone to physical violence and other illegal activities as they grow. It is not wise to beat up your children or even abuse them verbally. Keep bad peers at bay and where your children grow up, esp what neighborhood, matters.

^Well what is the difference between Somali people and Somali speaking people? Explain to me?

Theiry and Kashafa, why don't the two of you spend more time in school, improve your brain and critical thinking skills and come back here. Everything is in ABSOLUTE TERMS to you. Again, Kashafa, your day of getting banned is not that far ahead. You are using terms that are objectionable and are in direct insult to members. Saxib, you can say all you want to the government and MPs but do not relocate that same harsh language to the members here. At least learn to differentiate that Mr. Duke calls the anti-government squad looters, anarchists, and peace-spoilers , or terrorists, but he does not use these terms in direct reference to members of SOL.

Within the Internet lies Africa’s clay of wisdom By Philip Emeagwali Friday, December 07, 2007 ACCORDING to history books, gun-wielding European slave traders kidnapped one in five Africans and transported them across the oceans to the Americas. A less visible, but no means less drastic technological tool of suppression, is the compass, a device used worldwide for navigation. In the same way that Britain used its maritime knowledge and the US harnessed its intellectual capital to rule the world, the early slave traders used the simple compass to wreak havoc on civilisation. It is a sad fact that the innocuous navigation tool originated during and was fuelled by the Atlantic slave trade. The technological development of the innocent compass, invented in China for religious divination 2,000 years ago, allowed Africa to be ravaged in unspeakable ways. It was the compass that created the Atlantic slave trade, enabling the early colonial navigators — and their blood merchants — to chart an accurate course from Gorée Island, off the coast of Senegal, to Brazil; paving the way for the trans-Atlantic slave trade, which began on August 8, 1444. This trade in human merchandise covered four continents and lasted four centuries, and serves as a shameful beacon for the depravity of human greed and conquest. The compass became the de facto weapon of mass destruction, which led to the de-capitalisation and decapitation of Africa. It created the African Diaspora with one in five people taken out of the motherland. It was the largest and most brutal displacement of human beings in human history. Today, it is hard to imagine that such destruction and the wholesale abduction of a race could result from a tool as common as the compass. Yet, as a people who survived the slave trade, we must draw our strength from lessons learned from the past and draw our energy from the power of the future. And the power of the future lies in “controlling” technology and harnessing it for the benefit of mankind, not for his destruction. The people of Africa must take note that the Internet is our modern-day compass, and within it resides our own clay of wisdom. As we prepare for our great journey into the cyberspace of the future, with its technological promise — its clay of wisdom — we must understand the strategic value and potential of this all-important tool. Our image of the future inspires the present and the present serves to create the future. Africa’s lack of substantial technological knowledge of the Internet and its potential may lead it to be assaulted or manipulated in unexpected ways, just as it was devastated generations ago for the lack of a simple compass. We didn’t recognise the power of the compass then; the danger is that we don’t recognise the power of technology today. While Africa merely contemplates the future, the West, the quickest off the mark to wield technology’s weapons, actually makes the future. This fact, and how the power of technology can be wielded against the poor, was brought home to me clearly when I received the following email recently: “About a year ago, I hired a developer in Africa to do my job. I am paying him $12,000 a year to do my job, for which I am paid $67,000 a year,” the sender wrote. “He’s happy to have the work and I’m happy that I have to work only 90 minutes a day. Now I’m considering getting a second job and doing the same thing.” Technology in the hands of others has been used to exploit Africa for centuries. But now it is time for Africa to grasp technology and finally embrace the modern age’s clay of wisdom and advancement. Africa has the chance to show the world how technology can be used for good, not evil. And the people of Africa can use today’s technology, not to mimic their own exploitation, but to right the wrongs of the past and empower themselves with the same tool that has been used to oppress them in the past. Africa can provide a shining example for the world in using technology for its own upliftment and the benefit of mankind. This time, it is our choice. --------------------------------- What is your take on this article? I agree with his points that other civilizations, for instance, Islam did not use its inventions to wreak havoc or exploit the weak but to advance its good values and save humanity from the dark ages. The question is would the now revitalized European hegemony (as was in the 2nd phase of globalization before World War II ) and America in the current 3rd phase of globalization embrace this historical reality and technology. The navigation tools was invented by Islam and its need came after strenuous efforts to perfect the direction of Qibla (direction to the Pilgrimage) as well as the times of prayers. It was Islam that integrated diverse cultures and formed one powerful systemization that connected four continents. The west must stop believing the theories of Huntington that Economic exchange brings people into contact but not into agreement and thus the clash of civilizations. I agree with him that Africa must be open to the global market by dictating its own terms and to adopt to the new technology for its own good. “Some Westerners…have argued that the west does not have problems with Islam but with violent Islamist extremists. Fourteen hundred years of history demonstrate otherwise” (Huntington) Source: Via Hiiraan.

Good job ONLF