^yaa kuu doortay boqornimo horta adi?

Maaddeey;815240 wrote: Yuu Xasan Dahir rabaa inuu iska gado?, 'Walaa yakhaafuuna lawmata laa'imin' kuwoo Alle yiri inuu ka mid yahay baan hubaa!. Waabad hubtaa in Hassan Daahir Aweys Qur'aanka lagu sheegay. Godanena xadiisul qudsiga maa lagu sheegay? Sxb with all due respect, nin quraan lagu sheegay ummadda horteeda lama soo hor istaageen hebel waa kaafir. And that's the least of Aweys problems. Aweys has credibility problem.

Maaddeey: So you agree with me the bayaan you posted doesn't contain any names of persons or individuals but speaks of actions? It was your own interpretation and thinking they were speaking of President Yusuf. Since the 70 scholars were knowledgeable and wise enough to not name a person or persons, why do you deem important for you to label someone Murtad when in fact the scholars don't do it? Is it because you're more knowledgeable or is it your calling to declare Muslims murtad? Again, you conveniently ignore the consequences of putting words into the scholars mouth. The bayaan doesn't speak of Murtadnimo, it is you who is introducing that into the bayaan. Again, I don't know the authenticity of the bayaan and who actually witnessed all those seventy scholars signing it; but that's not the point. My problem is you inserting new word and your own interpretation into the article and using it as a source to backup your own interpretation. And if 70 sheikhs signed and you claim, hundreds signed it in an argument, you do realize that is considered a LIE in the deen? Sxb don't play the religious card if you don't want others to take your words seriously and challenge them. Kaftan is meesheeda but diinta can't be la jiifiyaa banaan.

Maaddeey: You failed big time sxb. The so called bayaan you presented as evidence didn't contain the words, 'Cabdulaahi is Murtad' so you need to search a little harder. And I did the math and you brought only 70 names, not Hundreds of scholars as you claimed earlier. Since you didn't say it was your interpretation/understanding in the beginning that the late president is murtad but argued "Hundereds of scholars ruled that Cabdullahi is Murtad" the burden of proof is on you to show the actual ruling stating this name with the hundreds of scholars.

^I thought that title was given to your uncle, General Caydiid AUN. Hassan Daahir Aweys has no credibility to criticize Al Shabaab. The man is trying to be relevant.

Ku qabso ku qadi meysidee, so one of Maaddeey's hundreds of Sheikhs. Lock this monkey up for good.

Soomaalidu dhaqan badalmi okaa durbaba.

Speakers include Somali leaders, former prime minister and representatives from the office of Congressman Ellison, Senator Klobuchar, many others.

The question I can't find answer for is why the police decided not to investigate and take Zimmerman's word for what took place? What convinced police and prosecutors to accept Zimmerman's account of what actually happened and not do further investigation? No one is asking why the police/prosecutors dropped the ball? I don't believe the police/prosecutors would act as they did if the two roles were reversed; black shooter and white kid dead. Police would have been all over taking all kind of evidence and turning every stone over. The other question is; why do American conservatives think defending Zimmerman is a political cause worth defending? Do they think If Zimmerman gets arrested or found guilty, somehow their guns are next to be banned?

^lol. War raggu Mudug muxuu u qarinayaa.

The Zack;812838 wrote: Sheikh's don't say specific person is gaal or not, they define the actions of murtads. I never said Sh. Cumar specifically named Yey, re-read what I posted with objectivity. Sh Cumar: http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/28416-Sh-Cumar-Faruq-about-the-jihad-in-somalia-any-one-who-allys-with-Melezen-is-kaffir?highlight=faaruuq Now, the question is why are you defending one of Somalia's worst criminals? Zack: HAA That Google search couldn't yeild any result of that clip of Cumarfaruq uttering Murtad at AY? Do want to take a minute to honor the late Sheikh's good name and say he DID NOT call a Muslim murtad? No scholar will ever say a person is murtad. And this is not about me defending AY. If I am defending anyone; I am probably defending the Culumada from fools who thinks culumada are going around calling Muslims murtad. Now let me go back and remind what you wrote. You wrote: "I agree with this article 10000%" And the article included this line: "Hundereds of scholars ruled that Cabdullahi is Murtad for his alliance with the Ethiopians to fight with Muslims." So you agreed 10000% with the statement hundreds of scholars ruled Cabdulaahi Yusuf Murtad. The article didn't say 'anyone with Meles' or 'anyone that brings gaalo' but it specifically named a Muslim man murtad. You argued a Muslim man murtad. The Shiekhs never said that. You and Maaddeey did. You need to own it and not divert this point to the crimes occured in Moqdisho.

The Zack;812787 wrote: Waxaan la yaabanahay Qandalaawi iyo Jacphar. Adeerkiin waad jeceshihiin waan ognahay but you can't hide his crimes. Specially Jacphar, come out and tell us that Yey didn't commit crimes in Somalia gaar ahaan in 2006 when he brought the infamous Xabashis to the motherland as he did in the 80's. Bal taas noo sheeg. Tan xukunka diiniga ah, Sh. Cumar Faruq was very clear, I will look for his response and post it in your face, markaas waxaad dhahdaan baan arkeynaa. Nice try Zack but no. Focus focus sxb. I need the evidence where the late Sheikh Cumarfaruq AUN 'specifically' called Cabdulaahi Yusuf Murtad. Stay on point here. I'll be here to discuss all other points of Cabdulaahi Yusuf, Moqdisho, 2006 crimes, Eithopian troops. But first I need you and perhaps Maaddeey to show the gallery where and when the two most highly respected scholars Cumarfaruq and Shariif Cabdinuur called Cabdulaahi Yusuf Murtad? Show me the clip sxb. I am just trying to keep you and Maaddeey honest. That's all.

Maaddeey;812495 wrote: Jacpher, I don't beleive you asking that!, as previous supporter of maxkamadaha, you should know what was involving that struggle. I beleive an audio of Sharif Abdinur and Omar Faruq, 2 of the greatest somali scholars was posted in this forum. Sxb, Maaddeey you need to backup your allegation "Hundereds of scholars ruled that Cabdullahi is Murtad" a little better than just saying an audio clip was posted here by two Sheikhs. The two sheikhs are not calling a Muslim Murtad, YOU ARE. I am not convinced great Sheikhs like Cumarfaruq AUN and Sharif Cabidnuur named Cabdilaahi Yusuf Murtad in their rulling. I'll need to hear it to believe it because it is out of their character. Plus I don''t think 1+1=100 by the way Zack: if you have evidence of Cumarfaruq calling Cabdilaahi Yusuf Murtad as you claim it, please post it. Otherwise don't disparage the good name of the Sheikh AUN whom can't be here to defend himself.

^Everyone on this earth who believes in religion would claim to know what happens after life, minus people like you atheists. Not just Muslims, Wadaads and Somalis. So what's your point?

Maaddeey is searching a role since Al-Shabaab days are numbered.

^What's life after death got to do with this topic? Must you insert your atheism garbage to stay relevant in every discussion and feel important? Unlike a lost soul like you, wadaads at least don't deny the existence of their lord and know there is a purpose to life.

I don't understand why y'all poking fun at people.

President Dalxiis enjoying what he does best. I watched it live for a little bit but I didn't see him speak. This is the only venue I could understand President Dalxiis speaking Arabic.

Keith is fire but the replacement is a disgraced former new york governor? The story just started and probably end badly in court.

Maaddeey: Before I go into a long list of what Cabdulaahi Yusuf was or was not, let me start up by asking you the names of the "Hundereds of scholars ruled that Cabdullahi is Murtad for his alliance with the Ethiopians to fight with Muslims. " as you put it. Please share us their names so we know we ain't talking about make belief scholars.

^lol@takbeer. Adigu takbeertaadu waa la-jiifiyaa banaan.

Someone remind the world how many hundreds of blood brothers gunned down each other so the said commander in chief would get his way? I am surprised someone of you are praising AY for one of his darkest moments in PL. This was a ware of choice and PL would have peaceful if AY had listened. The man might have been good soldier but not an angle. He is gone so let's leave it there.

Soomaalidu bilaash uma oran cey hadaad rabtid guurso, amaan hadaad rabti dhimo. The later rings true for the late president.

^Talyaani maa lagu weydiiday macalinka :D lol@caloosha igeey. North and South also differ on how time is read. Example: Labo saac subaxnimo in the South would be read as in Sideedda aroornimo in the north.

The Zack;809564 wrote: ^^Hey hey Abdullahi Yusuf resigned, so did Abdiqasim. Somalis are always great! Great job, Wade! Wade didn't just leave. He phoned his opponent to congratulate and welcomed his victory and left office. I highly doubt any Somali leader did that other than Adan Cadde.