Oba: You can't throw that charge around and exclude Shariif because his family and cousins were fighting the Amxaaro. Having your men fight shoulder to shoulder with you doesn't necessarily make or not make one a true munaafaq Plus this idea Shariifka drove Ethiopians out of Moqdisho is not true but you seem to believe it strongly. What you are alleging is not exclusive to these two men. Almost every warlord in the country has his family, kids out of the country yet recruit other people's kids to fight for them. Does that all make them munaafaqeen?

Ngonge: I think this argument is more about Shabaab than dhurwaa. It about AS bringing new phenomenon to Somali people and their culture than dhurwaa xalaalnimo. AS introduced a long list of things in Somalia which all are xaraam or new to Islam. Suicide bombing, stealing little children, recruiting them into soldiers, blowing up little school kids and declaring them 'cadduwulaah' as cali dheere did, ten/eleven yr olds telling their parents to let them fight in jihad against Somali government or they'd be labeled kufaar, killing their political opponents under murtadnimo, executing anyone differs their ruling/opinion or badmouths them under Islamic law, etc. Is eating dhurwaa the xalaal thing they introduced? We are talking about people that banned bra, digging up old grave sites, and banning Somali music but allowed Arab nasheeds with music beats? Dhurwaa is the least of Maaddeey's problems. That's why he's trying hard to equate calooleey to xaar and dhurwaa to hilib geel. He knows Somalis will reject this one as just another AS crap to win the hearts of Somalis.

^You're not saying henna make up on Maaddeey would be xaraam?

Abwaan;857171 wrote: Jacpher, let us see and wait what happens in a week's time Insha Allaah when your clan-based dream collapses. Whether you fake history or not Abdiweli's fate is in the hands of the UN along with the two other top leaders and Farmaajo. A decision will be made based on the allegation that they mismanaged government funds. You and your likes think that you can fool the world by fabricating news and claiming that this guy is a complete success. I think that you do not know Abdiweli other than through your clan glassess. That is my reply to you! War heedhe caqligii xaguu kaa aaday? I am asking you a direct question regarding your on going 'little investigative journalism' you did about his Harvard degree? This is about you alleging something that you keep running away from to address. I am NOT asking you about his candidacy, leadership or lack of, or ability to win or not win. I am NOT asking how Puntland and him are out in cohorts to steal the wealthy of Somalia, or any other conspiracies you hold about Puntland or him doing great harm to Somalia. None of that is what I am interested. Simply address how your "little investigative journalism" is going to disprove the PM Harvard credentials. Talk about what your investigation unearthed about his college transcripts and how he completed taxation certification. I am not the one who made the allegations. I never said I know the guy well. You claimed to have done extensive investigation on his educational background and I want you to be man enough to backup your claims without resorting to his clan or his Puntland affiliations.

^Abwaan: Do you finally accept Cabdiweli the PM is Harvard University graduate since you said of him this: the PM Gaas completed a taxation certificate course at Harvard not his masters or PhD as you claimed?? Or is your little investigative journalism about his credentials still ongoing matter that you can't comment on? Which one is it Abwaanoow?

Karmel Mall is the only place I've seen where a customers has to pay a parking fee to shop there. No other business I know of makes their customers pay a parking fee in an open parking lot just to shop. I don't understand why Somali businesses do expect their customers to pay for a parking in order to do business with them. Rumor has it carabkaan abuses and harasses Somalida that do business with him. I don't think a mere demo on a private property is gonna cut it.

General Duke;856827 wrote: Jacphar it's not that simple. The powers that be US and members of the security council are based in Nairobi & Addis and thus force everyone including old sick Melez to play the tune that is set from the West. Coming back to our own election/selection, we have everyone coming into Mogadishu and Sharif Ahmed flaying out...? But you're gotta admit all those auditioning in this play, whoever can bend over the fastest is gonna get casted for the role of president.

Perhaps, no one called him but he's gone there to perform his yearly tawaaf on his masters' deathbed?? Joke aside, don't all the candidates look to Addis for guidance? Isn't Addis where the script of this soon to be released movie is written and handed over to the actors in Somalia? May be Sharif goes to Addis to rehearse his lines.

Abwaan: I can't believe you're passing the opportunity here to criticize Puntlander Abdiweli Gaas. That's not so you. It must be the Ramadan. With all the your replies here on the topic, no comment from you about Aideed and his mass killing machine known as USC. Stay classy duqa. Fiqi bahdii kama jano tago.

Puntlander supporting Puntlander.....remember clan is everything?? Get it now? Astaqfurulaah. War ha idambaajin waryaa. By the way, no clue about her clan relations to the man.

You're still talking about someone other than the MAN about this topic. What say you about him? Since you want to switch the topic so bad how about Abdiweli, the PM. Did your little investigation about him being Harvard graduate still going? Any update on that?

^Don't be obtuse waryee. Only $$$ matters to those making the selection of the president. This endorsement matters not to those inside the country but those outside who deem endorsements matter in elections, I mean selections.

Abwaan;856788 wrote: lol....the sad thing is Morgan and AY, who even continued killing even after Aydiid's death are heroes for you, what a hypocrate. AY sidaa u buunbuuninayseen adiga iyo kuwo kula mid ah that aad dadka uga gaddeen inuu statesman yahay, deserved aas qaran aan loo samayn AUN Aadan Cabdulle Cismaan iyo Shiikh Mukhtaar, two great Somali individuals.It is ok to condemn Aiydeed but so are to "The Butcher of Hargeysa" and "The Butcher of Muqdisho". For some people SOL is their history books...Ilaahoow na cafi. Are you MAD because Aideed died without accomplishing anything for you to brag about or are you MAD because USC died with him? Wake up kid. The video clip in the topic is not about AY or others so don't divert attention. It's your HERO Aideed saying Allahu Akbar in the video while on killing rampage on cities across Somalia. Open a topic about AY or others but this ain't about them.

^ No I am not trying to change the subject at all sxb. This is marginal to what barbaarta does in Somalia everyday. It won't be an exaggeration if one jokes about barbaarta putting out a fatwa making xalaal for the consumption of the human meat of those they deem murtadeen. We are talking about people so low on the humanity scale that nothing is too low for them. Anyho, sad to see you're still remain hard headed to your shabaabi ideologies. Time for you to realize otherwise sxb. Running out of time here. Later.

Sxbkeey Maaddeey wili ma ka waantoobin barbaarta?

Waryee qolomaad u dhalatay for you to either get friends of not-so-friendly people on these boards. :D :D

Sxb xamaali.com baan ku jiray. Coffee break yar baan heystaa. Nice to see you too bro. Maxaa i dhaafay?

What's next? Human meat or better human meat of those deemed murtadiin?

If one needs to stare at evil in the eye, look no further than this man. Aideed is dead so is his USC. And SNM remnants were too weak to finish off what Aideed started, cleanse the country of faq*sh cockroaches. So what's there to admire? At least he died trying his evil mission.

Feeri Biyuurifuul.

Che -Guevara;544237 wrote: N someone was saying others were obsessed with lalaland. This is beyond obsession. Where would landers be without PL?

Chimera;827916 wrote: I'm sorry, what? Its very sad what happened to her father, but how is potentially finding love outside the community relevant to the conflict? She's my generation, both she and I were toddlers or in primary school when the war started, how can she hold me or any Somali guy her age responsible for something they had nothing to do with? That's essentially the reason behind her 'gaalo raac' comment, right? Old Somali men have disappointed her, so she must ignore all young Somali men and look elsewhere, that seems more like an excuse rather than anything sincere. It is a convenient excuse for her to scapegoat others instead of taking full personal responsibility of her situation. Plenty of others have gone and still go through what she may have gone through years back so the idea of holding people that killed her father responsible on how she carries herself is just ridiculous. I know of someone when you tell him tuko or diinta baro, he'll tell you, general Aideed chased me out of my dugsi qur'aan when I was a little so Aideed is to blame for my lack of diin practice. I told him he's too stup1d to blame his failure on a dead man.

Life is short.....

Dadna madoow bey ka cararayaan dadna u soo ordaayaan. Beautiful. Beautiful.

^if you knew a thing or two about Sh. Umal, you would have known he is Alshabaab's public enemy #1. Not only does he condemn and denounce them in his lectures but calls out their Sheikhs to religious debate and shames them publicly. I think by far, Umal is one of the few Sheikhs that speaks against AS in strongest terms possible. Ilaahey ha ilaaliyo Sheikha. I think the wadaads you are talking about are the suufis, not wadaad ahlul-cilmi u lahaan jiray diinta iyo shareecada. We always had wadaado odayyada iyo dowlada madaxa u salaaxi jiray xaq iyo xaq darro and wadaado dil iyo xabsi la isugu dari jiray because of their cilmi & diin. The good thing about the current generation is that cilmigii baa la bartay so not blind following of Sheikh so and so said so and so. AT: Sheikha maraad qabiiliste dhahdid iyo hadoo aad keentay dumarkuu ku cayaaraa? War culumada ka xishood nin weyn baad tahayee.