Ina. Lilaah wa inaa ileyhi raajicuun. Ma la hubaa dilka Sheikh Gacameey Alla yarxamu?

Do yourself a favor and don't bother going next time. Every large meeting has intros, long speeches, people coming late, people talking in the back or front, speakers repeating the same point over to emphasize the take home message out of the meeting. And it ain't a locked up cell so others can go back and forth as they please.

Duushay duushay Soomaalilaand.

Saalax;917937 wrote: SOLers should discuss subject matter rather than personal jabs. I for one think giving heavy weaponry to undiscpilened trigger happy militia turned Soldiers could be a recipe for disaster and could be a set back to the little progress Somalia made. +1

Regardless laangaab, dheer or dhexe, everyone should be given a chance to build peace together. We are all in it for good.

@xiinfaniin, it has become politically incorrect to speak against the looted properties and the xasuuq in xamar in which USC managed to legitimately steal the properties of those deemed enemies. Airing such issues makes you appear qabiiliste and hate filled cuqdadle though everything you might be saying is factually true. It is like a republican cadaan addressing Obama by his middle name on TV though it is his legal name. That's racist and unacceptable. No you can't have that. Heck you can't even say xamar is largely run by a single clan today and was run by a single clan warlords for the past twenty years. Truth hurts I guess. So my friend you can't be politically correct and factually right. You gotta let m00ryaan sympathizers have some. Look at this Raamsade. What took place was a crime of opportunity kuye. Them m00ryaan had nothing to do with it. They just found abondaned properties and said, gee you think D**** will come back to claim them back. How far do you have to be in the a$$ of the clan to come up with this garbage?

^Wasn't the state intact and responsible for its army until it vacated its seat in Villa Somalia?

@che, going with that logic, d-block is responsible for the crimes committed in SL, not the regime since the army was led by you know. Right? I am not justifying what took place here but where does the buck stop?

^If the state existed and the military orders were given by the state head, what difference does it make what the army clan was? Isn't the state ultimately responsible for the army?

^To them Barre regime was a d-block clan entity thus the clan is responsible for the regime, in the eyes of these guys. But what clan did Barre regime left untouched? None.

Summarize it in one or two sentences please.

Yes the sky will literally fall if President Hassan Sheikh Mohamuud is denied to the throne of office. Somalia better listen to Hassan or else you'd go hungry.

Raamsade;917590 wrote: Spoken like the truly outwitted. Dhaqane single-handedly put this whole calaacal to a screetching halt by stating "if you have documentation for your alleged looted property, go to Xamar to seek redress not youtube or SOL." For that he was called "a looter who lives in stolen property," a clear personal attack the MODs decided to turn blind eye to. I joined the fray outwitting you and I get called "a foot soldier for Halyeey Ceydiid." No offense Jacpher but you're simply not intelligent enough to navigate delicate discussions like this. I didn't say a foot soldier for Cayadiid. Unlike you, a foot soldier is brave enough to fight for what he believes and not hide behind a keyboard. Unlike you, a foot soldier doesn't scream empty words about tolka. He goes to the front and dies defending tolka. Don't insult Caydiid (Alle yarxamu). He wouldn't get any far with the likes of you. And stop trying to drag the MODs into your little tantrum. You are the FIRST to speak of Beesha USC. Keep that flag fly high up in your head. I am glad Oba knows better not to fall for your clan recruitment.

Lifting the arms embargo doesn't serve the country's best interest at the moment.

^The Daqane script is stuck in infinite loop. Raamsade fix the script.

^You sure do know how to recruit the clan. How many have you led to the battle front for the late Gen?

Raamsade;917544 wrote: ^Yaa akhi, history didn't start 1991 and didn't stop in 1991. And the sad events of early 1990s were natural and logical end-product of policies pursued by S. Barre regime and which was wholeheartedly and enthusiastically endorsed by large sections of these purported victims. Hatred begets hatred. Violence begets violence. In another words, the '91 xasuuq wasn't as bad as Barre regime and 'these purported victims' lost the war and that's all that matters. How dare they play the victim card when one of their own run the country for long twenty one years? Waan gartay.

^ He's hoping you'd read twice every time he posts twice the same garbage. Oba: the man is waving the tolka flag so you'd listen to his appeal and stand with his line of argument, looters keepers, I mean finders keepers.

@Nuune, finders are keepers weeye sheekadu. If the owners are deceased, Daqane lived there for over twenty years, xaq buu ku leeyahay or so he thinks. @Raamade, you're just mad the issue of looted properties are raised. By the way, you keep saying go back to Muqdisho but the government has yet to publicly issue a press release inviting to all the victims whose properties stolen, has yet to set up a committee or do anything tangile regarding this issue. I hate to break it to you but there are no proper channels in Muqdisho at this moment. Courts aren't enough especially in Muqdisho. @Oba, And a good neighbor like Daqane & Raamsade will gladly hand you the keys

We all have horrible memories of those dark years of the civil war and Somalia wil not get the opportunity to correct itself as long as the perpetrators are given an immunity from prosecusion. What is the point of talking if people still provide safe heaven to the criminals in their backyard. Let alone those warlord enjoying their cup of teas, you can't even air what the dead warlords did.

Daqane;917476 wrote: lool xiin your hot air as usual illuminates nothing, the cataclysm you speak about was sent into motion and perpetuated by these very same old men I talk about, your uncles banked on the submissiveness and ********* of an entire section of the population not only in mogadishu but in the rest of somalia, people were massacared and land expropriated as part of state policy continued on unfortunately as part of militia policy, wixii aad dadki baarten uun ayaa meesha ka socdee, this chest beating that you are afforded in mpls amounts to shyte all in xamar, regardless when you come to xamar, be it under the new mechanism being put into motion by the new goverment or by one that might be run by your uncle in the future, documentary proof will be the only criteria for the return of property, if that cant be provided, let the cold chill settle on your clan gatherings saaxib , I have neither respect or intreast in internet expositions of your kinsfolks claims or histories, meeshu T.B uun baa laga kala qaada uun. No amount of somalias scripts and ethnic barrow boys chanting at me is going to change that. secondly i know in that gaseous mind of yours that somalias revival somehow equates to d-block hegemony and puntite intelligence behind that lakiin you are calling a really old disconnected number, after 21 years ma weeli chest thumping and any means neccessary language is being used by your ilk somaha?? Dont worry brother I am sure there shall be ghettos in xamar for you guys to remember good old times in I never realized there are moor.yaans roaming around SOL looking for properties to loot. Haven't you killed and robbed enough since Siyaad left mise you are echoing his name to justify all that xaraan that bankruped your moral senses.

^Thats not what he meant you son of mother. Sxb I suppose it ain't arranged since you are having last minute doubts.

^lol@reporting. Highly doubt if Somalis can objectively discuss this hot button issue and come to terms the crimes committed against all.

^Only a stubidh Moor.yaan would think Cali Geedi, Cadde Muuse, Faroole, C/wali Gaas committed genocide in Muqdisho. Have any of these men ever manned the infamous Muqdisho isbaarooyin or raped the city over twenty years? You must have such a short memory or convieniently forgot the real genocide took place under USC. Remember Baydhabo? Have you not seen it on your TV screen? Sxb don't post here what tolka tell each other behind closed doors as factual stories. Muqdisho went through many deadly and horrible phases. Why is '06/07 is genocide and not in '91? I expect this kind of argument from the likes of keydmedia not you bro.

The current clan warlord Abdirahman Faroole, Mohamed Warsame Darwiish, Adde Musse, Abdweli Ali Gaas, Hassan Abshir, Ali Mohamed Ghedi, Salaad Ali Jeele and many other genocide collaborators are still on the run waiting for justice. Many Diaspora co-conspirators openly declared their support for the genocide in 2007 in the United States, Canada, UK, and Scandinavia and through their websites. SOL guilty as charged. I guess Oba shares this man's empty grievance.