Xoogsadoow, ducadaas hadii la aqbalo yaa u dad ah Hiiraale! Waxaa jira dad badan oo ka soo horjeeda talaabooyinka wasiirka uu ku doonayo maamul u sameynta gobolada Jubooyinka, iyadoo beelaha qaar ay aaminsan yihiin in maamul loo sameeyo jubooyin ka ay ka horeyso in dib u heshiisiin loo sameeyo beelaha dega gobolka. Indeed, reconciliation and public repentance should be a priority.

Not to disappoint anyone or hijack the topic, where does the Salafiya Jadiida comes into the picture? There are lots of labels/names out there and some people whatumacallit, seem to enjoy dividing Muslims using these labels. Maybe that’s what ThePoint is concerned? How can one remain true to these labels and at the same time convince these individuals who might be ignorant of the value to these names, that they are not creating confusion and division?

It’s not the first time Idamaale is making this accusation. In fact, they made the very same accusation a year ago but this time to the ICU instead of Shariifka, the speaker of the parlimantry. Who would it be next year? Maybe our own SOL. Just shows the garbage they call news stories. What does Idamaale means anyways? Some kind of qabiil synonym?

Comparing Somalia to Afghanistan is like comparing apples to oranges. Unlike Somalia, Afghanistan has different ethnic groups and languages. It’s pointless to compare the two when the differences outweigh any similarities. The author is just another foreign expert who remains foreigner to Somali politics, and perhaps that of Afghanistan. He reminds me of a Middle Eastern expert I heard on the radio the other day, on the recent war in the Middle East, saying Israel must protect its border with Iran, as if Israel shares a border with Iran. Someone corrected him at the end of the interview.

Juje, cadaalada ha ka tagin hee. If you’re referring to Indhocade who is wearing shaatiga maxkamadaha, is a valid argument but can you not say the same thing about Ina Yusuf? Isn’t he as much guilty as other warlords in the parliament? No? Would a corrupt election or presidential post grant them immunity or forgiveness? Tirsi iyo faro ku fiiq kheyr ma keeno. I’ll admit tirsigaaga waxaa ka sii qaab daran inaad rabtid masaakiinta Xamar ku nool inay dabo cararaaan Qanyare, Qeybdiid iyo Yalaxoow oo shaati dowlad xiran. Wishing for the return of the most ruthless, cold-blooded killers to the innocents of Xamar? Such a despicable barbarous mindset. What is in it for you sxb? Generale, I'm with you on that. Time for Ina Yusuf to go. I hope he’ll realize before it's too late. And if he decides to leave, put him in the PL no-visit list. PL is doing much better without him. I’ve a feeling this guy isn’t going anywhere until death does him and the presidential chair apart

Is this a joke or what?

I doubt if the Generale has any plan other than the TNG. GD seems to be failing to understand the importance of prioritization. He wants to dismantle the courts by demanding that they confront the butchers of the south, Indhocadde and Hiiraale. While such calls may be valid & necessary, it’s not in the best interest of the courts and the stability of the region. These two criminals should be dealt with, possibly by diplomacy, but the courts have bigger problems on their plate. Cleaning the city, opening the airport & the sea port and calling for the return of looted properties to the rightful owners is a good start and a priority that needed to be taken. It’s hypocritical for GD to advocate for a war in hopes of weakening the courts and perhaps giving in to the goals Ina Yusuf’s Masters, amxaaro.

^^Leave the man alone. Horn neither sees nor hears of evil when it comes to adeeryaalo. Keep the purification going. You’ll rewrite history in no time.

Good news to report.

Ciidamo Itoobiyaan ah oo aad u hubeysan oo galay Gobollada Gedo iyo Bay Khamiis, July 20, 2006 (HOL): Wararka naga soo gaaraya Magaalada Baydhabo ee Gobolka Bay ayaa sheegaya in ciidamo ka socda Dowladda Itoobiya oo aad u hubeysan ay gudaha u galeen gobollad Bay iyo Gedo. Ciidamadan oo la sheegay in ay wataan qiyaastii boqol gaadiidka dagaalka ah ayaa la sheegay in ay shalay iyo xalay ka tallaabeen xadka Soomaaliya ay la leedahay Itoobiya, gaar ahaan dhinaca Dooloow, kadibna ay xalay gaareen deegaano ka tirsan Gobolka Bay . Ciidamadan ayaa la sheegay in ay dhinaca Soomaaliya u soo dhaqaaqeen kadib markii shalay ay magaalada Buur-hakaba ee Gobolka Bay ay gaareen Maleeshiyooyin iyo gaadiid dagaal oo ka amar qaata Maxkamadaha Islaamka, kuwaasi oo ay hoggaaminayeen Shiikh Mukhtaar Roobow Abuu Mansoor iyo Maxamed Ibraahim Bilaal oo Gobollada Bay iyo Bakool ka soo jeeda, isla markaana Maxkamadaha Islaamka ka tirsan. Dowladda Itoobiya ayaa horay u sheegtay in haddii Dowladda Federaalka ay dhinaca Maxkamadaha uga yimaadaan wax weerar ah ay difaaci doonto fariisinka Dowladda, isla markaana ay la dagaalami doonto maleeshiyoyinka Maxkamadaha Islaamka. Warkan sheegaya in Ciidamo Itoobiyaan ah oo aad u hubeysan ay gudaha u soo galeen dalka Soomaaliya ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmayaa iyadoo shalay uu Ra'iisal Wasaare Cali Maxamed Geedi sheegay in Maxkamadaha Islaamka ay ku soo xadgudbeen deegaan ay ka taliso Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliyeed, isagoo markaasina ugu baaqay Maxkamadaha in ay ixtiraamaan heshiiskii ay dowladda la gaareen,isla markaana ay dib ugu noqdaan Magaalada Muqdisho. Laakin Guddoomiyaha Degmada Baydhabo Axmed Maadeey ***** oo maanta shir jaraa'id ku qabtay ayaa beeniyay in ciidamo ka socda Dowladda Itoobiya ay soo galeen deegaano ka tirsan Gobolka Bay, iyadoo dhinaca kalena uu shirkiisa jaraa'id ku sheegayay lacag lagu soo rogay gaadiidka BL-ka iyo kuwa xamuulka ah ee gala isla markaana ka baxa magaalada Baydhabo iyo weliba xiliga habeenkii lagu soo rogay Magaalada Baydhabo. Salaad Iidow Xasan (Xiis) Hiiraan Online sxiis@hiiraan.com Mogadishu, Somalia Amxaaro has arrived in Gedo. Where are the brave boys? Time to defend ciyaalka xaafada.

Which Somali flag, dear nationalist? The Somaliland one, the Puntland one or that blue thing with the star? Puntland has a flag?? I've never heard of it.

LoL...war inanka ME caawiya, qayladii ayaa ka dhamaatay ee. Someone accompany him to the Ethio confrontation. I beg you. Waxaan ka baqayaa inanka inuu bp ka qaado SOL. Hey, shout FIRE, FIRE, help shall arrive soon.

I strongly advice the UIC to remain in Mogadishu and continue their good civic duties-like bring back sense of normality back to the citizens of Mogadishu. Attacking Baidoa or any other new territory will bring more damage to the UIC's image than it will any sorts of gains. May there be peace in Somalia. That’s a sound advice and I do agree that the ICU should not go to war with Baydaho. They need not to give Ethiopia, Ina Yusuf and the proxy government a chance to cause more chaos and instability. They should be smart enough to play their card wisely. Amxaaro is not ready for urban fighting and probably won’t come to Xamar so long ICU stays out of Baydhabo.

Naxar, are you tanag daloola or what? Filthy amxaaro are coming and you’re in celebratory mode? The invasion of Ethiopian army inside Somalia will not solve any of our problems even if they forcefully stall Yeey, their proxy president. Sure Yeey and Ethiopia may have the upper hand for few hours, not days or weeks. It would work against xabashi iyo gaalo raacyada la socda and unify Somali functions. Take my word for it sxb. The Ethiopian involvement in Somalia would only prolong Somalia’s instability and chaos. Nothing good will come out of it. Such thing is Axmaaro’s ultimate goal. Yeey is the tool here and ICU is used as scapegoat.

Originally posted by NATION: It's common sense don't you think. Cause if they didn't the U.N would have said something about that. "We have the responsibility to defend the border and the Somali government. We will crush them," Ethiopia's Minister of Information, Berhan Hailu, told The Associated Press. remarks like that are coming out of Ethiopia and U.N has no respones which means they support it. Do you know what common sense means? Look it up in the dictionary. Common sense is a judgment one makes, right or wrong, not a claim similar to the one you made above. UN supporting Ethiopia to invade a neighboring country is not called common sense sxb. If you wish amxaaro to invade and kill residents of Mogdisho/Somalia, then say so without dragging United Nations name in your claim, unless you're UN representative on SOL, in which you need to state your sources. Keep your hatred for Somalia to yourself. UN may support Ethiopia to defend its borders with Somalia but not invade a sovereign nation. That's called supporting aggression war on another member nation. UN knows better.

Job well done. Bravo courts.

Originally posted by NATION: Ethiopia got the support of the U.N to intervened to defend the fall of a Somali Government. Mark my words this is going to be the END of ICU. Where did the UN authorized Eithopia to invade a a sovereign state? Can you share your sources?

Ethiopia Prepared to Invade Somalia Ethiopia Says It's Prepared to Invade Somalia to Defend Government Against Islamic Militia By LES NEUHAUS NAIROBI, Kenya Jul 19, 2006 (AP)— Ethiopia is prepared to invade neighboring Somalia to defend its U.N.-backed government against what appeared to be an imminent attack by Islamic militiamen, a government spokesman said Wednesday. The militiamen, who hold most of southern Somalia, deployed hundreds of fighters outside the town where the largely powerless government is based and said they planned to seize it. "We have the responsibility to defend the border and the Somali government. We will crush them," Ethiopia's Minister of Information, Berhan Hailu, told The Associated Press. Seizing the town of Baidoa would give the Islamic militia which the United States has linked to al-Qaida the uncontested authority over most of Somalia. Somali transitional President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed is allied with Ethiopia, and has asked for its support. Ethiopia has intervened militarily in Somalia in the past, and hundreds of Ethiopian troops have been spotted along the countries' border in recent weeks. The Somali Islamist militants are allied with Muslim separatists in the Oromo region of Ethiopia. Source

Xayawaan armey ka daran yihiin. Idaa lam tastaxyi fasnac maa shi'ta

Originally posted by me: The Arabs are also trying to rob two great military victories from us. The first being the claim that the great Somali Commander who conquered Abyssinia Axmed Guray was one of them and of course claiming that it was they who have beaten the Americans in the battle of Mogadishu (claims by Osama). You mean they by Osama & Al-Qaida, believed to be terrorist organization, not Arabization organization, or Arab nations or league? I’m not a history major but I’ve yet to hear or see Arab country/government claiming Axmed Guray being Arab individual. If you don’t mind sharing your findings [besides the name] supporting Gurey was Somali? Osama also claimed the West is out to get Islam and that Muslims who pay taxes in support of western governments are in the same category as their governments. Do you believe these claims as well?

MM, thanks for the reminder. Dhubad, sxb calm down. Dyslexia is not a bad word or caay. It refers to a medical condition of a learning disorder, someone who lacks the ability to comprehend written words or language. Nothing to be ashamed of. Horn, sxb before I address the points you raised, I need to go back to the question I put forward in my earlier post. Here’s what you wrote. Originally posted by HornAfrique: Jimcale has already admitted active support to Morgan. Maangaabnimo warkeedu meel ma taal. He doesn't deserve the grace of a response. I expect you to be man enough to proof the allegation you made. Once again, I’m giving you another chance for you to show your raganimo and explain yourself. I can understand if you were caught in the moment or were arguing for the sake of argument and made false accusation or slip of the tongue but you need to say so. Forget about Kismaayo and Hiiraale for now.

Are you dyslexic also? Does it run in the family? Where do you see me support Yeey & amxaaro? Mise waad iska hadaaqdaa at times? You know what they say when you assume $$? Take off the tribalistic eyeglasses you are wearing. They aren’t working for you. Jimcaale & Yeey don’t belong to the same column, not even close. You're way off the mark, think a bit harder. There isn’t any difference in admiring one warlord and hating another. They’re of a same category, attribute and breed. Well, not if you are miserably dummy. Grow up kid or keep worshipping your Holy Father, Hiiraale.

Are you dyslexic or just too lazy to read? Scroll up and re-read my previous post. If you value someone’s death whilst attempting to kill a fellow Muslim, I guess that speaks of your qabiil mentality. You finally decided to show your true color and fight for your uncle. Pack your bags and fly to Gedo, that’s where it’s needed the most. The amxaaro are coming and your Ugaas accused your uncle of hosing them.

HornAfrique, Originally posted by HornAfrique: Jimcale has already admitted active support to Morgan. Maangaabnimo warkeedu meel ma taal. He doesn't deserve the grace of a response. Sxb, I challenge you to proof your accusation and please do show evidence where I admitted such an active support to warlord Morgan. Unless you’re doqon & dameer dooc ka yeeray, I await you to specifically respond to this grave lie you made. Allamagan: Morgan & Hiiraale are both remnant of Afweyne, the late evil dictator of Somalia. You see I support none, but you, on the other hand, proudly support and uphold Hiiraale to a higher degree. Why differentiate the two, if I may ask. Xiinfaniinow, these youngsters want to create confusion out of nothing. They try hard not to response to the real issue, the man they blindly support. Kismaayo or not, the legitimacy of the rule of Hiiraale is the focus of the argument, not his tribal affiliation to Kismaayo residents. Kismaayo business is for Kismaayo natives regardless the tribe, not someone born elsewhere. Somali politics has little to do with clan, but mainly about shifting alliances. Cabdiqaasimkii Hiiraale u qabtay Kismaayo ayaa Morgan la socda. You would think Horn would realize that by now. I heard Hiiraale on a radio a while ago and the man can’t even pronounce the name of the city correctly. How shameful to claim a town and be that ignorant. I think we should leave these youngsters alone. Each time one engages them on this issue, they go too far chanting a blind support for warlord Hiiraale. A while ago, Horn referred to him as Ilaah-oo-kale man, if such thing exists or allowed in Islam. They don’t realize supporting and obeying a warlordism is shirk, a sinful act that would lead to Jahanama. How does one fall into shirk by supporting a warlord? By allowing and giving him the authority to dictate what’s halaal and haraam. Allah has the sole authority and the right to dictate halaal from haraam, not humans. Throughout the Quran, Allah has criticized the people of the book to have made their rabbis and priests Ilaah other than Allah. These people gave their rabbis the legitimacy to make what’s lawful and what’s not. For that reason, they made them Ilaahs min duunilaah. How does this apply to Hiiraale and his supporters? Just like any other warlord, Hiiraale gave his militia the authority or green light to shed the blood of his opponent and take their property as it’s halaal and lawful for them to invade and occupy. I hope they realize it’s a grave mistake before it’s too late.

I hope you do realize you’ve answered the question you posted, which demonstrates the state of your emotional mind. Do yourself a favor and take a nap before you reply so you can raise your thinking level a bit. It’s not an accusation I or someone else makes, or a perception, it is a reality that Barre Hiiraale not only a warlord but will go down in the history books as the most ruthless butcher of Kismaayo, if not South Somalia. warlord: noun 1 : a supreme military leader 2 : a military commander exercising civil power by force usually in a limited area. If you’ve issue with the definition, take it up to Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. Do you still deny the description meets the definition?