Jacpher
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I think her name is Habaryar Xalimotologist. I hope you're not asking for the taariko.
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Red Sea, Waxaad qarsatid wey ku diloodaan miyaad horey u maqashay? You can’t solve all of the secessionist’s problems by avoiding them. Generale & Caamir, Cadde Muuse is a failture in action. The sooner his departure the better. When will PL realize it's time for the public to elect their leaders?
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So Baydhabo is having a party?
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I find the video misleading. It shows what it appears to be a river or lake and they play a song wabiyada iyo bad weynta. Unless they're calling rivers and sea meelo biyo fariisteen, I didn't know a river or sea in that part of the country.
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Red Sea, are you somewhat allergic to the word or something?
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Here’s what Muraad wrote: Caamiroow qof haddii magaalada laga cayrinayo Barre Hiiraale qoyskiisaa laga cayrin lahaa, waxaad kaloo ogtahay maleeshiyooyinkii Barre Hiiraale intii raacday mooyee intii kale, iyo weliba kuwii dorraad is-dhiibay, inay Kismaayo joogaan, maamul hadday noqotana Airoportka ninka loo dhiibay waa qabiilka Barre Hiiraale bal ii sheeg waxa intaas ka badan oo aad rabtid? War Caamiirow, let me first state it was more than a typo. The position I was refering to was brought up by Muraad but I somehow thought it was you. It’s the sentence in bold above and I said, that appointment was the work of politics [read: siyaasad, not siyaad]. Muraad pointed out that the courts have appointed someone from Hiiraal’e family to run the airport after the fall of the city. The courts played politics to calm the family down and make it appear nothing has changed except Hiiraale who voluntary left the city. They even invited Hiiraale back but not only did he refuse but residents protested the appointment of the airport position. It’s pointless to go into details but this was my initial argument. If you insist that I meant Siyaad, the sentence would not make much sense. I am in no way spoke of the last regime or the previous mayors of that city. It was your understanding. If you want to debate me about that, I’m up for it brother. If my intentions were to drag the old regime to this very point, I would not have hesitated. Believe I'm not that type of person. If you or someone else has a utopian view of the courts and thinks of them as angels obeying Allah twenty-four seven, I don’t. I don't hold them to a higher or different standard or think of them anything remotely close to angles or forces sent to us by Allah. They have got boys who have done all kinds of mischief in their mix but towbada Ilaah bey leedahay inuu aqbalo. Just like the warlords, they are involved in politics and have a sense of religious and moral principals. Their politics, however, is a better one and probably free of dirty tricks, I like to think that way. Santaaro: Could not agree with you more. Crime is a crime no matter who commits it. No justification at all.
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don't understand why the courts keep insisting on working with these stooges in Baydhabo. They should declare the organization worthless and move on and they will find plenty of us supporting them for doing that. Lama soo dhoweesto tuugadii waddanka u sabab ahaa inay burburiyaan ee qabiil u dirirka ahaa weligood. Nin qabiil aaminsan soomaali ma xukumi karo so the courts are wasting our time trying to talk to the same old corrupt men who turned somalia upside down with their clan wars. Xoogsadoow, sxb you lost me somewhere in your insinuation of solving the conflict between the courts and TFG through guns. If we briefly look at the recent history of the country, war has never produced any children nor any resolution but worked towards alienation of one another. The two leading figures are so disengaged that all they practice is insanity; doing the same crap over and over and hoping a different result. All they do best is the bidding of Ethiopia and you can't really blame them for that. Ethiopia made sure they get elected to office and gave them a manual to run the country. Melez went a step further and took control of not only their security but also their legislation. Ethiopia knows we're stuck with these so-called elected officials and we can't fight our way out and win the battle. The courts have almost united Somalis across the globe when they liberated the streets of Mogdisho from the infamous isbaaro but have not yet yielded any tangle strategy or result to bring the country back to its feet through talks and negotiations. Can the courts spare the war rhetoric for a moment and focus on negotiating with Baydhabo and work towards compromise? Isn't that the most Islamic thing to do now and crumple Ethiopia's goal of chaos and/or civil war of two major clans?
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War xiinoow maxaa kaa helay signatureka? Ma ICU ayaa kaala wareertay? War ninkii Alle Ubaahne waayadaanba ma fiyoobeen. Dabeel baa ag martayoo inantan ayuu ku khafiifay.
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Caamir: That’s a typo. I meant to write siyaasad, not siyaad. You ask of warlord thug? I know you have the answer to that empty question but if I may suggest to compile a list all the names of the criminals that inflamed the people's emotions and divided the country by clan lines for the last fifteen or so years. Somewhere in that list you’d get your answer. The game is the tool they used to control and manipulate Somali politics but the ICU shows the game is not that sophisticated and any inexperienced novice can outsmart the skillful expert. Santaaro: I grew up not far from Santaaro and I used to see people get snatched out of their bedrooms in the middle of the night for doing everyday normal things like listening to the radio, cleaning graffiti off of their properties and sometimes criminalizing women for putting modesty clothes. BTW, Cimaamad doesn’t speak of one’s character or religion. Horn, sxb at least your nick isn’t deprived of your sub-clan. I don’t know if your last reply is a compliment or cheap shot of belittlement. I have no hate for adeer or anyone else but I make sure my name doesn’t get used for a sickening agenda. Adeer is no better or worst than the rest of dagaal oogeyaal but that’s too hard for you to swallow. I think Xiin gave you the best advice there is when he said nimaan [Hiiraale] wax aheyn baad daba ordeysaa. Allamagan: Come back to debate me later sxb. You seem to be busy with the campaign for the impeachment of Yuusuf Garaad of BBC for its failure to cover the massacre of the four or so men in Bu’aale. More power to you. Muraad: You brought up a good question but I wonder if the pro-Hiiraale boys would address it. They might just be interested in exaggerating the incident to the point where four innocent lives be killed for revenge. That’s a routine and the nature of dagaal oogeyaal iyo inta daba orda.
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lol@cimaamad. Caqli xumo saan u weyn ma aaman ogeyn inay ka jirto meesha. Muraadoow, I think they’re sending a strong symbolic gesture to the Arab musicians in the Middle East. Maybe burn a prayer matt or loox dugsi quraan. Guddoomiyaha, oo maanta u waramayey Idaacadda Simba, isagoo ku sugan Degmadda Beled-xaawo, ayaa ku nuuxnuuxsaday inay Bulshadda ku nool Degmadda Beled-xaawo mar hore dhisteen Maxkamad Islaami ah oo ay ku mideysan yihiin, isla markaana ay Maxkamaddaasi qaado nooc kasta oo fal-dembiyeed ah iyo Dacwadaha Maddaniga So it’s just a clan court set up in Buulo Xaawo to serve beesha meesha degta.
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Originally posted by HornAfrique: Then what is the problem? Unless you’re playing dump, you should know where the problem lies. This incident of Bu’aale is not and should not be used as the talking points for the campaign trail of Hiiraale and his subordinates. In fact, Hiiraale’s incompetence is partially to blame. Jubbaland was more of a problematic issue added to the current problem Kismaayo faced. How could one solve a real problem by putting another problem on top of it? Only if your beliefs are in line with kud ka guur oo qanjo u guur. Abaadir: You’re trying to score a point by misquoting the man? You must be too naïve to think people won’t scroll up to see the rest of the post. As Camir echoed, geela Buulo Xaaji & Xaliimo Cadeey daaqa is more popular than kaad ka hadleysid. Caamir: You do have a valid point. It's apparent that siyaad is behind the appointment of that position you spoke of. Another proof of the courts beating these warlord thugs on their own game.
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Originally posted by HornAfrique: ^I am against any and all forms of war crimes. I do not believe anything in the Islamic religion or even international human law, whether Islamic or not, condones such actions. Do you disagree? Right! I wouldn’t have doubted your words above if you were to utter such statements whenever Ina Siyad Barre & Hiiraale criminal activities pop up. I’m sure you’d agree with me that selective justice has no place in our religion. Islam and the natural human instinct condemn any and all of aggression regardless the victim or perpetrators identities. I don’t disagree if this reporting happens to be genuine news story. I certainly condemn it and hold the responsible party accountable. Originally posted by HornAfrique: And also, were you hoping "beelaha Muqdisho" to have done this? If yes, then I am sorry but "beelaha Muqdisho" meel xun ha uga dhacin. Sxb, if this is another accusation, ha la gaban noo macalinka, let it out. It’s only good for your health. It’s called playing the devils advocate and rationalizing your irrational thinking of viewing the courts as warmongering beelo qabiileed invading beelo kale magaalooyinkooda. The courts are mainly a collective of beelo but in principal, they generally resonate with the majority of Somali public except the few warlords. The courts are more than beelo and let’s not judge them by their appearance. Looks are deceiving as the saying goes. They had nothing to do with this. Let us hope that was a Freudian slip there. What do you mean by this? If you mean the incident involving dadka dhaawaca ee la is raaciyey, that’s your own interpretation and I fail to see how you could take my reply out of context and apply it where it doesn’t belong. I was referring to the military campaign you spoke ill of.
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Originally posted by HornAfrique: ^In some ways it is comparable. In 1991, the USC ally Cumar Jees was snatching people out of their houses and shooting them at their front doors. Now his counterparts are snatching people out of hospitals and shooting them while a large-scale military campaign is being engineered from Mogadishu in a replica much like that of the USC's. Deja vue? Double standard in action iga dheh. Not too long ago you were cheering up for a different kind of military campaign from Gedo on their way to Kismaayo. Why speak ill of the military operation of beelaha Moqdisho to Kismaayo [giving you the benefit of the doubt by calling ICU beelo] and not the military offensive of beelaha Gedo to Kismaayo. Do these two forces have different objectives, or perhaps better intentions. Is one more suited or legitimate than the other? Unless you supported Gedo’s military offensive to Kismaayo merely out of qabiil, than you should not criticize Mogdisho forces for the notion that Kismaayo is for all Somalis and not exclusive for one qabiil. By the way, neither USC nor Ina Jess or ICU were the master engineers of this horrible barbaric tactics of snatching innocent people in the middle of the night. It’s the product of Kacaankii 21ka October and Ina Siyad Barre's infamous Koofiya-cas militia. Give credit where it's due. And yes, they’re prone to criminal activities or violation of some sort. They are humans, not immune or perfect in any way.
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It’s called style and preference. You’d rather get hit from Jamaican or Congolese. Not a bad choice. Oops, sorry I forget I wasn’t the professional helper here. My bad Dr. Laura.
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Alleubaahne, waa sidee sxb. Guur iyo dagaal ayaad sheegeysaa in the same sentence and yet you wish death for a Muslim. Ma is ogtahay macalinka mise Sheh baa karbaash kula dhacday?
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Alamagan: Ninkaan kama heleysid decivise answer ee ha ku wareerin. Just like adeer, he plays both sides at his convienience. Balse mar uunba la racdeena sidii adeeroo kale. RS: Ha meermeerin, Alamagan is putting you right on the spot. Tarmaarada iska daa nooh sxb. Just tell him your love for the secessionist movement is much bigger than that of the ICU. Clear and to the point. By the way, Allamagan hadda uma diidana Turki Kismaayo. He sees Turki as part of the larger family if you know what I mean. The ICU are now the real enemy and imminent threat to the larger family, Same old tatic of divide and rule. I wonder if Kismaayo become overnight the city of the larger family, not yesteryears when Indhocade and his cronies including Hiiraale were ruling.
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Nuunow, dad baa wili aaminsan in Tupac Shakur nool yahay.
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Puntland building local councils in southern Togdhere or ayn
Jacpher replied to Naxar Nugaaleed's topic in Politics
Was it a personal trip or part of SL or UN Census Division? -
Too bad it won't be white ciidul fitri!
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Mid laga faa'iideysto oon khasaaro keenin Alle ha ka dhigo. Red Sea, any sign of snow in Dacar-Budhuq?
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Kismayu; Clan courts and local elders find no common ground..
Jacpher replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
Ma quuste warxume tashiil la wareege. I dare you back up your accusation or terminate your habitual ways of casting blank allegation. -
Kismayu; Clan courts and local elders find no common ground..
Jacpher replied to General Duke's topic in Politics
lol@bururay. Bilaawe maad u dhiibi? Originally posted by xiinfaniin: The irony of this tread is sickly sweet; while good Horn brag about the recognition of the courts to his community and how central they are to the Kismayo equation little does he know that the local’s reported discontent with the courts lies in these very appointments and how the Kismayo admin is arranged! In other words it didn’t sit well with them that the mayor of the city, the police commission, and the airport went to a people other then them! They wanted it all! They think it’s theirs and theirs only. Their objection is however a one of a technicality rather of fundamentality! Most locals agree with Courts that Barre’s exit was a heavenly bliss, and Kismayo is better off with him and his gangs. So much for this newly found tol that Duke and Horn seem to have discovered since Kismayo’s fall . Shaw hadii coalition forces in Kabul magacaabaan Congolese boy to the airport commissioner, would tolkiisa know it’s Kabul airport not Kinshasa? Kashafa: Thanks for the reminder laakiin I’m afraid dadaa dagaal dhiig iyo iskudir Muslim kaga mashquulay faa’iidadaad ka warameysid. Ninaa horey u yiri, no free pass at all. -
Originally posted by HornAfrique: ^When did sensibility start kicking in..? For a second there I thought you lost it all. Right! It just kicked in. Thanks for noticing.
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