^I like your insights and I admire your sincerity but I highly recommend you get some anger management counseling. Don’t take it personal. I’m just a fellow country man concerned for your well being. You sound so brilliant and clever and God forbid we don’t want to lose you to some psychiatric unit. If you don’t take it seriously, I’m afraid such behavior and uncontrollable anger may lead to some serious healthy risks such as blood pressure or worst heart attack. If you can’t afford to seek professional help, please don’t hesitate to ask for help. Leave me for the task to get Puntlanders for the fundraising. I'm sure SOLers including xiinfaniin will generously donate. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, as they say it.

^Stay at home Muxajaba or least possible ikhtilaad! Get it? Nothing is wrong with that the same way nothing is wrong with A. Yusuf getting Ethiopians and Americans to bomb the hell out of other somalis. lol@khayr. You're terrible. Violet thought women's corner was safe from those kind of qarxis.

Originally posted by MKA Yoonis: BTW from your false depiction of a billion I can see that you too didn't go to school, so print out my lectures and study and learn from them really hard as they might benefit you one day inshallah. Ps. Are you perhaps suffering from a learning disability? I truly feel disgusted how you depicted that amount/sum, really horrible and there are too many zeros in there as well and don't even mention the two alone standing zeros in the front, are you handicapped perhaps or what? I cannot even laugh I feel horrible and disgusted. What a simple moron. I told him a year ago 'That he had difficulties comprehending things at the best of times and that it would be made even worse by unsocial or late ours, so I guess it is the time for you to relax your brain and switch all its lights off completely. Man, you’re really funny. You got me rolling on the floor. I see lots of hostility and animosity. What have I done to deserve all this? Just a simple question and all this? I didn’t know it was that much fun picking on you. Waryee Ngonge inaad ii sheegtidey aheyd kol hore. Ibtilo. Mid dhago xiran baan la hadlayaa ileen.

You two should get a room and fight it out. Goobjoog, qaasidiya, dayniile, idamaale, kismaayo what's the difference? Maryooleey Waxaa la Yidhi News. Taako, I know you're a firm believer of the puppet government but I didn't know you were disappointment. Who the heck spoke of president spokesman? Adeer is neither free from human right abuse nor is his savior Meles so don't pull that crap now.

Yoonis: What are you doing here. Are you done convincing Ngonge $1.00.000.000.000.000.000 is a 1 billion dollar? I don't think he got it.

^With the help of Tigrayan troops, you managed to get one aggressor out and replace with another? And you call that progress? I like when you remain true to your delusion.

Interestingly enough, Khalaf is, in Somalia's clan ship makeup, closer to Abdulahi Yusuf then he could be to Hiiraale. The young lad did not even see the need to correct the childish and petty accusations coming from Nuune, Che, and Jimcaale. That I believe is a testament to his rising above cheap rhetoric and standing true to his convictions irrespective of the erroneous misconceptions held about him. Bal inanka xeel gaara! How did I miss this one. Horn, sxb take it easy. I don’t know about Nuune or Che, but I admire adeer Hiiraale for his honesty that Axmaaro are not the enemy but our dearest friend & the saviors of the government, put together by Ethiopia. I understand odaga in ICU ay xumeeyeen ehelkiisa and I respect he stands up for his family. For that I voted for him. What you don’t get is that Khalaf is all over the map. Like you said to me, he’s on both sides of the fence. He opposes ICU for clan affiliation yet wants Sharia law implemented by TFG and its Tigrayan savior Meles. Khalaf, give it up. You don't justify the occupiers by arguing they're there already. That's the silliest thing I heard on this thread.

They inshallah will have their own adminstration with no trace of the cirfo's, deylaaf's, indhacadde's, dhuxuloow's of the world. Right! Administration headed by the cousins of Idmaale Editor. Not too long ago, TFG was casting the same blame on Geedi and tried to rid him until Meles, the Tigrayan savior of TFG showed up.

Originally posted by TheSomaliEconomist: Who cares about a college students ponderings anyways? I bet he just wrote it to get some academic credit. Probably wants to transfer to an Ivy-league next semester. And yours matter? Faaraxoow, this character would be signing to a different tone if the author were a Tigrayan justifying the occupation.

Che, that thread is dead. I started this page hoping we discuss ideas and the claims this man is making instead of calling names, insults and doubting his deen. Talib, Niqaab was widely adopted right after the fall of Barre regime but does that mean it has not been practiced in some areas of the country. I don't have the history background so where are the SOL historians.

Waryaara, why hijack the thread. Is dajiya horta waa Khayr not Muslimka. Xaa malaayiinta Muslimka maha keenay? Khayr, Right to judge is too broad I think. Do you have specific example in mind? I think it's all about the situation not the people.

Nuruddin Farah speaks with Jeffrey Brown about Somalia and the rise of Islam. I think Odaga chose his words carefully when he said we did not have, in our tradition there was no veil. "No veil until the 1980s." Is he right? When did Niqaab come to Somalia? Jeffrey says Somalia in its historical days were the center for learning and culture especially Muqdisho for the horn of Africa. Odayga is trying to keep and preserve Somalia’s culture and tradition by writing about it in foreign language, perhaps for foreign audience. Video Clip

U.S. Intervention In Somalia Wrong If this country, God forbid, were to ever degenerate into chaos, which faction would you support? What if your only two choices were a group of warlords backed by China or a ragtag bunch of fundamentalist Christians? Imagine this hypothetical situation: the warlords have failed to bring any sort of security to the country. Drug use is rampant among their soldiers, the streets are not safe for travel and bandits roam the countryside. The fundamentalist Christian group, meanwhile, has taken over a small section of the country. The area they control is orderly and peaceful. However, they practice strict adherence to the rules of their religion. Homosexuality and getting an abortion are offenses punishable by death. But at the same time, some freedom of speech is allowed, hospitals and schools are opened and the free market flourishes. Which side would you support? Imagine that the fundamentalist Christians continue to gain popular support and take the country back from the Chinese warlords. The areas under their control enjoy relative peace and prosperity. Then, the plot thickens. What if China stepped in and said "fundamentalist Christians are bad," and asked for Russia to intervene on behalf of the warlords? In response, Russia invades the United States and drives the fundamentalist Christians back, killing or capturing thousands of them. The Chinese-backed warlords return to power and the country returns to instability, chaos and outright anarchy. Were China and Russia right to intervene and drive the fundamentalists back? The reason I ask you this is because such a situation is unfolding halfway around the globe. Somalia has been controlled by American-backed warlords for many years. The warlords have done nothing for the country, and its infrastructure has crumbled. Drugs were openly sold in the streets, and the warlords' militiamen could take whatever they wanted, rape whomever they wanted and kill whomever they wanted. Earlier this year, the Union of Islamic Courts (UIC) took over much of Somalia, driving the warlords back and establishing peace and order throughout the country. Drug dealers were locked away, murderers and rapists were shot and thieves had their hands cut off. Freedom of speech was allowed, and people were able to leave their homes at night without fear of being shot. UIC soldiers were courteous to the local populations and gained their support and trust. Then, the United States intervened. The U.S. accused the UIC of being affiliated with al Qaeda and made Somalia into another front in the global "War on Terror." At the behest of the United States and the warlords, Ethiopia, a longtime enemy of Somalia, invaded the country. The Ethiopian army is one of the best-trained and equipped in Africa, so they had little trouble driving back the ragtag Islamists. Now that the UIC has been soundly defeated, the country has returned to its chaotic and violent past. The current government relies on vigilante committees to take care of security anywhere that Ethiopian occupation forces are not present, and the people of Somalia are angry. The BBC interviewed many random Somalis, who said such things as, "Life is harsh here because of recent events; and it's been made worse by Ethiopian interference" and "When the Islamic Courts were in charge, we had peace." What you should be thinking about here is, was the United States right to create a warlords' coalition? Would you support a Chinese warlords' coalition running this country? If you answered these questions differently from one another, go back and think about them again. If we don't want other countries running us, we shouldn't be trying to run them. Was Ethiopia right to "liberate" the Somalis from UIC control and return them to the rule of the warlords' coalitions? Would Russia be right to take over the United States and hand it over to a different warlords' coalition? I know this seems ridiculous, but think about it. America is proud of its freedom. We glorify the fact that our nation has never been conquered by anyone since its founding. I'm sure that no one reading this wants other countries to tell us how we should run our government. That's why many nations have such a big problem with us nowadays. We don't respect their national sovereignty. If Somalia wants to be ruled by a band of religious fanatics, who are we to tell them "no, you can't do that"? America has over-stepped its bounds as far as things like this go. We have military bases in nations across the globe. American military construction in Eastern Europe is causing tension between Russia and former Warsaw Pact nations. American military intervention in Iraq has become a flashpoint of recruitment for jihadists from Indonesia to the United Kingdom. American military threats are making negotiations with Iran difficult because we keep threatening them and countries don't respond well to such threats. American military bases in Saudi Arabia spurred much of the anger at us in the Middle East. You get the point by now, I hope. America has no right to tell other nations how to operate. Yes, we have a wonderful system of government, but we shouldn't be forcing it on others if they don't want it. Source

Ubaahne wrote: Nin baa laga sheegay inuu yiri, Asalkaa Nifaaq kaga jiraa, walba, Oday reerkaas ah! Anigoon taas ku oraneyn, baan hadana aaminsanahay inaad ceeb iyo foolxumo maanta walaaqateen. Taariikh madoow iyo Toobad-seeg, nin baa la taagan taangi dhexdiis! Isku-raaca waxaad rabtiin, wallee Soomaali wax beey ogaatay maanta! Nala Jihaada, hadaa tol iyo ehel tihiin, hadii kale noo sheega waxaa tihiin! Are you normal today? This much hatred is not healthy.

Urban, These are 650 small clips in wav files. I organized them into 1-30 juz folders but you can put them in one folder. Each file number corresponds to pages of the Mus-haf. It’s easy that way to listen to whatever page or Juz you wanted or you can create a playlist of each Juz. You can covert them to mp3 but make sure you don’t lose the sound quality if space is not an issue. The more you compress the more quality of the sound you lose. I don’t know the software you use but you can try dBpowerAMp Music Convert (dMC), Audacity, or other freeware apps. Let me PM you because I don’t know where I could upload 275 MB zip file. I know Yahoo briefcase but I don't think it lets that big of a file. Anyone knows any site with that service?

Sky, insulting Waraabe won't get Yeey an edge. I think neither of them represent the real issues of SL and Somalia. They're more of a problem than solution. Someone should put them in a room and have them fight it out.

Igaartaan ka cabso

They're both carnivorous wild animal.

Khalaf, are you taking over idamaale or soon to be appointed presidential religious ministry? Just kidding. Taako, I can't believe you think Yeey is better off with this idamaale character.

Waraabe says Ina Yusuf won't last long in Muqdisho. Ina Yusuf says Somalia is one country, no Somaliland. Wolf vs hyena showdown. Md. Faysal Cali Waraabe " Cabdillaahi Yuusuf waxaan leeyahay xukunkaagu Xamar ku waari maayo..." Somaliweyn Media Center (SMC) Hargeysa 26/02/07 Cabdillaahi Yuusuf waxaan leeyahay xukunkaagu Xamar ku waari maayo, xaq darro ayaad ku timid xaqna waad ku tegi doontaa.” Guddoomiyaha Xisbiga UCID Md. Faysal Cali Waraabe.. Hargeysa(Geeska)- Guddoomiyaha Xisbiga UCID Md. Faysal Cali Waraabe, ayaa si kulul u cambaareeyay hadal ka soo yeedhay Madaxweynaha Imbigaati Cabdillaahi Yuusuf Axmed oo uu ku sheegay inaanay Somaliland ka go’I Karin Soomaaliya.... Md. Faysal Cali Waraabe, oo xalay u waramay Wargeyska Geeska Afrika, isaga oo daba socday waraysi ay BBC-du la yeelatay Cabdillaahi Yuusuf, waxa uu yidhi, “Cabdillaahi Yuusuf waxaan leeyahay xukunkaagu Xamar ku waari maayo, xaq darro ayaad ku timid xaqna waad ku tegi doontaa.”, waxaanu intaas ku daray, “Marka uu leeyahay Somaliland ma go’I karto, waa wax lagu qoslo waana hawo hadalkiisu. Waxaan leeyahay Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya way is yaqaanaan Cabdillaahi Yuusuf-na, Reer ahaan waanu isu naqaanaa ee waxba yaanu ku habsaamin Somaliland.” Md. Faysal Waxa uu hambalyo u diray shacbiga Somaliland ee ku kala dhaqan dalalka Ingiriiska iyo Norway oo uu ku bogaadiyay isu soo baxa ay ku qabteen London iyo Oslo ee ay ku dalbanayeen in Somaliland la siiyo aqoonsi Caalami ah, “Waxaan leeyahay waad naga farxiseen ee Eebe ha idinka farxiyo. Waxaan idinkula dardaarmayaa inaad muujisaan oo aad halkaas ka sii wadaan midnimada iyo wada jirka aad khamiistii muujiseen. Wadamada aad joogtaana cadaadis ku saara inay aqoonsadaan xaqa aayo ka tashi ee wadanka Somaliland.” Ayuu yidhi Faysal Cali Waraabe oo tallaabo lagu farxo ku tilmaamay isu soo baxa dadweynuhu ka sameeyeen qurbaha. Hadalka Cabdillaahi Yuusuf ee uu Faysal Cali Waraabe cambaareeyay, waxa uu Cabdillaahi Yuusuf ku sheegay waraysi laga sii daayay habeen hore BBC-da waxaanu hadalkaas uu ku yidhi, “Anigan kula hadlaya waxaan aaminsanahay in Soomaaliya ay hal dal tahay oo mid ah. Puntland baan ka imid anigu. Puntland iyo Somaliland-na waa isa saaran yihiin oo waa deris waana isugu key mid aniga, Puntland-na ma go'i karto, Somaliland-na ma go'i karto, aniga ra'yigeyga weeye. Ra'yiga dadka leh waa go'aynaa, haddee anigu waa maqlayaayoo, waa ujeedaa, waxayse ila tahay sharci iyo nidaam baa lagu go'i karaaye iska go' ma ahan oo khasab ma ahan. Dowladdaan maanta dhisanna kumana talogelin mana rabto in ay dagaal wax ku xallisee, waxay doonaysaa in arrinta Koofur ka socota marka ay xasiliso oo ay dejiso in ay Woqooyiga Soomaaliya dadka ku nool oo walaalahayaga ah ay wada hadal la furto, wax walbana waxaan jecelnahay in lagu dhammeeyo wada hadal iyo siyaasad, ee dagaal in wax lagu raadiyo iyo qori caaraddiis marnaba annagu dooni meyno.” Source

Aideed – from Interior Minister & Deputy Prime Minister to housing minister. Any worst demotion that this? So you argue Ina Yusuf’s loyalty is with Idamaale boys. The old man must not trust the rest of Mudug plus Bari/Sool/Sanaag. Yeey could not have chosen any worst individual as presidential spokesman.

Originally posted by Taako Man: Ambassador to EU- Yey's 'clan' Isn't that post given to Yusuf Baribari? And his cousin, the idamaale editor is now the speaker of the president? Why labo ilma-adeero in two different posts. Why not do the same thing with the rest of TFG. Ina-Caydiid was not given a high ranking position when he left his post for his cousin. I'm not so much concerned about the clan driven appointments as the whole government is based on 4.5 clan formula. What I don't understand is why choose the worst of the worst. Yusuf Baribari sub-clan could not find a better and more qualifying candidate? I don't get the business of a cousin after a cousin.

Is it any different than tobacco?

Urban, I don't know if this will work for you but I have Quran CD containing the whole quran i small audio tracks in wave format numbered 1-604, the pages of the Fah-di mus-haf. It also has a thousand or so nature pictures. I separated the clips into 30 Juz of the Quran and was thinking converting them into mp3 but never completed them. These are Sudeysi & Shureym so let me know if you want them. You don't need to spent too much to get what you want nowadays. With so many Islamic websites, you should be able to find your favorite sheikh.

Reer Mudug has hatred and division of that magnitute for one another, yet they want to be the supreme rulers of the country. No wonder the country is doomed.