Ethiopia got its hand in every jar.

^You ain't making fun of Dhahar girl?? Marc: I'm looking forward to that exclusive video of "self opionated bile" of Northerner. C'mon.

^According to 'your uncle or dad miyaa'?

^So, you do! Maybe you should lend her one of your razors. Ma fahansaneen waxaad ka hadleysay mana daawado laakiin hadaan fahmey. Waxaan u heystay in goor hore la reebay. Igaarta wey is ceebeysay. model ku sheegan kilkilaha tidcan eed moodo inay habeed geela ku seexatay!

Hadaad qof walba afka ku taageysid dee maxaan ku iraahdaa. Adigoo kale should be banned intaad akhlaaq ka soo yeelaneysid.

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^Thanks for the link walaalkiis.

^What are you babbling about? Seriously, you and many others do fit the description he gave in his post. Re-read what he wrote again below. Think critically and analyze and re-evaluate what is that you stand for and support on this forum. None other than dagaal-ooge? Waxaa yaabka ugu sii sareysaa kuwii dibadaha ku qaangaaray, oo qabyaalad ku raagtay, u sacabtumaayana daneystiyaashaas hoggaanka sheegto.

Dagaalkii Koonfurta Somaliya markaa ayuu sharaf lahaa. At least, a united rebel group was chasing a toppled dictator out of the country. Hadafkii USC ee dowladda Mogadishu iyo koonfurta ka saara, waxa ka iloobeen talaabadii ka danbayssay marka arinka lagu guulaysto. Waa Qorshe nabadeed lagu soo dabaali lahaa oo aan laga sii fakarin. Was Siyaad Barre (Alle Yarxamu) even in the country in April?

Old news.

There is that popular site, Stuff White People Like then there's Stuff Educated Black People Like. These sites were created mainly for satire and good humor. Some of their entries may be stereotypes but they're funny. I don't know if Somalis have one out there but I think it is about time. With half a thousand 'news' web pages, I think we can have one that's devoted to and pokes fun at what Somalis like and what it means to be Somali. Possibly entries. I don't know if qabiil & dagaal-ooge is at the top but it should appear somewhere on the list. Qabiil or Qaranimo Arab or African Muslim or Islam (Yes, they're different) Politics Running out of time....

Worth the Sacrifice? Bush Blisters the Truth on Iraq By RALPH NADER On the occasion of the fifth anniversary of Bush's illegal war of aggression in Iraq, the Fabricator-in-Chief made a speech at the Pentagon, whose muzzled army chiefs had opposed his costly, ruinous adventure from the start for strategic, tactical and logistical reasons. As benefits the dictatorial monarch of yesteryear, evicted by America's first patriots, this modern-day King George blistered the truth, somersaulted the facts and declared that a "strategic victory" in Iraq is near. He called the war "a just and noble cause." Sugarcoating the terrible, impoverished state of daily life in Iraq, he acknowledged "the high cost in lives and treasure," but said the recent situation in Iraq made it all worthwhile. "Worth the sacrifice" is how he put it often in previous statements. At the same time, his V.P. his Prince Regent, Dick Cheney was having this exchange with ABC's Martha Raddatz: Raddatz: "Two-thirds of Americans say it's not worth fighting, and they're looking at the value gain versus the cost in American lives, certainly, and Iraqi lives." Cheney: "So?" Raddatz: "So--you don't care what the American people think?" Cheney: "No," who then inaccurately wrapped Abraham Lincoln's stand during the Civil War around his relentless illegal warmongering in Iraq. In an article called "Defining Victory Downward: No, the surge is not a success," columnist Michael Kinsley exposed the fatuous standards of comparison used by Bush and took his readers to standards back in 2003. Kinsley observed how Bush spouts success against conflicts and conditions that never existed before March 2003. There were no Al-Qaeda fighters in Iraq, no large scale sectarian carnage. There were modicum rudimentary public facilities and necessities, notwithstanding severe Clinton-Bush propelled economic sanctions, under dictator Saddam Hussein, instead of a devastated, riven nation of 4 million refugees and violent street anarchy. At the same time that the rancidly redundant fictionalizations of reality in Iraq by Bush and Cheney were once again receiving front page attention at the New York Times and the Washington Post, protests on the downtown streets of Washington, D.C. and in scores of cities and communities around the country received subdued short articles deep inside these newspapers. Both remarked on the smaller turnout of marchers compared to the large demonstrations in 2003. This decline should not be surprising. Most people are trying to communicate their concerns, and their repeatedly accurate warnings about the impacts of this war of aggression to a wider audience. But the mainstream media, often hardly working on weekends, never gave these outpourings the attention they deserved (even though American public opinion was behind their call to end the war-occupation and said that the war was not worth the cost to America in lives and dollars). Fortunately, along came a Nobel Prize-winning economist, Joseph Stiglitz, with a new detailed book titled "The Three Trillion Dollar War ," (W.W. Norton) to inform the American people just how right they are about the long term cost of Bush's messianic reckless pursuit launched on a platform of lies, distortions and cover-ups. The twisted defiance of Bush, the cowardliness of the majority Democrats in Congress and the frustration and powerlessness felt by sensitive Americans who see no light at the end of the Iraq tunnel leaves little room for citizens to gain control of their runaway government. There is a possible way to turn the tide in favor of ending this illusion of "victory" and the occupation that breeds its own opposition in Iraq. Unlike before or during any other war in our nation's history, hundreds of former high military, national security-intelligence and diplomatic officials have spoken, written, testified and some even marched against Bush's tragic folly--before and after the March 2003 invasion. These retired public servants include generals and anti-terrorism specialists who worked inside the Bush Administration. Taken as a whole, were they to aggregate their standing and influence before the American people by banding together as a group, their cumulative impact on Congress, on galvanizing and focusing public opinion during this election year could well turn this deteriorating situation around. These patriotic Americans, with their experience in battles, conflicts and geopolitical tensions, coupled with their desire to wage peace for a change in Washington's policies, could be the catalyst that spells the difference. Compared with Bush and Cheney, successful draft-dodgers during their Pro-Vietnam war past, they make for quite a credible contrast. Will they mobilize themselves for the common good and provide the new dynamic needed? Time will tell.

^What are you on about? MMA: I've seen a similar footage years ago where they shot three young men in early twenties. They were lost and didn't know what side they ended up. Of course prisoners of war; they got interviewed and looked extraordinarily scared. Unbearable for anyone to watch as these young men got shot on camera by Aideed militia and sadly, on the perception of doing a dutiful service (read: Jihaad). There you see Aideed Sr, Qeybdiid, & Caato in cohorts of each other to advance their own political goals, not that of their respective clan. You see the same men and of course their likes, over and over leading any peace conciliation attempts. It's good to ask why these young men are taking part in these conflicts with less personal gain and much greater chance of loss of limb or life. But it's even better to ask why Somali populace are numb about this much bleeding and abuse?

I see no coded message but apparent ones. Work that keyboard baan ku iri. I know this one is 'handsome Farah' but I don't know if he's fan of 'Im in a bit of a rut'

Endeavour: Yours is obvious. Sorry. Can't help but notice. Girl do your thing and with the will of Allah a handsome Farah will walk into your life [Wink] Waa Calaf and remember Du'ca preceeds destiny. You can also consider the 'available' Farahs on SOL [Wink] Kidding. FB, you think what I'm thinking? Nuune: Kor waayeel waa wada indho in action. War dadoow waa iga talo. Nuune warkiisa ha la dhuuxo.

It is a slap coz this is giving more support to Rayaale from the people who live in those regions. If the parliament which the majority is the opposition parties then people will see that the opposition is not willing to consider their issues ,,,, SNM's own Gerrymandering version. Redistricting just to gain more political representation. Thanks to Af-weyne, Riyaale is on a roll to hold on to the seat. Oodweyne's work on SOL has been paid off. Taloow JB, adigana goormaa gobol laguugu magac darayaa? Perhaps, another productive marqaan session.

Thanks Xoogsade. Mucho gracias. I want more of him. The poem depicts the ugly but true reality of Somalia. The country, its resources, its people and all in between are in the hands of the warlords, controlled and manipulated at any cost. Owned and operated by blood sucking, hate mongering, evil warlords. These warlords are religious icons in some circles. Speaking out against them is seen as sacrilegious. We rally behind their cause and uphold and view those who lose their lives in the way as martyrdom. Terms like (insert clan name/affiliation) mujaahid is common in our everyday vocabulary. I've not heard Hamas, Hizbullah or Fatah mujaahid within their internal conflict of each other. Somalis have given the word a whole new meaning. Heck, SOL has its own version, keyboard mujaahid. Haddii kale dantiinii gartoo daalimkaas dila, Dabadeed midnimadii dalkiyo daawo wada qaata, Dar-Illaah u soo jeesta oo diinta wada raaca, Dariiqii Rasuulkii maroo diinta wada raaca, Dawiyo nabad wada raadiyoo diinta wada raaca The poet is challenging us to break the cycle and take charge. He is encouraging us to stop this abuse and exploitation by the warlords. He is asking us to confront these demons we deem good leaders and peace negotiators. Are we there yet?

Geeljirayaaloow kaalay, kaalay kaalay kaalay, kaalaya agteyda, horteyda soo fariista, dhagaha dhukayga ka saara............ This discussion is neither about ICU, nor Ethiopia. If you have a burning urge to discuss ICU vs TFG/Ethiopia, go right ahead and initiate a new topic. I'll be glad to comment it. In the mean time, this one is about Max'ed Dheere falling for a prank call. Xoogsade: I doubt if the kid in the clip is a member of the Shabaab group. I don't hold Max'ed Dheere any higher standard than the men in his status, Ina Caydiid, Ina Yusuf, Ina Qeybdiid and the rest. For all I know, that kid on the other side of the phone line could have been a member of his own militia, Max'ed Dheere's own militia. On warlordism and the seventeen years old conflict, blame it on us, Somalis, for giving the warlord the tools(read: human), the power(read: resources) and the recognition(read: status) to continue with their evil desire of calool u shaqeysi. A lot blame and guilt can be thrown at others but at the end of the day it is us, Somalis who did the dirty work. The problem with Somalia is the Somalis.

Remind me what was the topic? 1. Max'ed Dheere getting punked foolishly? 2. ICU vs Ethiopia or TFG? (Which one is better for Somalia)

^Must we take sides between these two clowns? This prank call is disgraceful to Islaanimo. That's the simplest cadaaladnimo.

Wait a second, Abu Geeljire is Badda Cas? War ninka maxaad ugu qarxisay. Rag buu u gabaday.

Al-Mansuur maa diiday?

Xaniifa, walaal qaaliyaa tahay. Adoo kale yaa hela. Nephy: Xageed noo kala wadaa hee. Kissima & Maakhir isku dad lee ma ahinoo. **Midkoo Kismaayo ku khafiifayaa meelaha ka dhowee bal yuusan i maqlin.**

^Ma la isku cayaaraa hee.

Labaduba waa isma dhaanto iyo dhasheed.