Oodweyne;945338 wrote: Xiinfaniin. :D Saaxiiv you see ghost everywhere and that is really what can't be helped in here. As for IGAD meeting in Addis-Ababa, you should see that as in one piece of winning the Endorsement of those countries in his approach towards this jubbaland. Or failing that then at least help out to flash out where Kenya stand in here so that when he eventually arrived in London he can have some concrete allegations against Kenya in which he could put before the rest of the IC when it comes what Kenya is up to. And if IGAD is deadlock on the account of Kenya and her veto power then he will say to the rest of the IC that I have been thwarted by Kenya when it comes to stabilising Somalia on the back of his "Six points plan" for Somalia. So you see all of these diplomatic dances seemed to have a purpose behind them. Hassan got a good advisor here on how to defeat the occupying Kenyan army. Too bad he is a seperatist activist whose interest is against seeing united south. Save it for another day waryee.

I grew up in that area and been to Jamaame a number of times so I know you would have difficult understanding the locals.

Xaaji: Them peace keeping forces may stay or go but thats up to IGAD and the point was Jubbaland is here to stay. The days of Muqdisho sending army to rule far away cities like Kismaayo, Gedo, Boosaaso or Laas Caano are over. Hassan thinks Muqdisho can decide for the people of those cities like Siyad Barre AUN did. He is in for a big disappointment.

The duriyadda of Jamaame speak different dialog than you do and they don't insult malaaigta. Clan would be the only common thing you got with them. You wont like it there sxb. Someone forgot to mention that part to you saaxiib.

Oodweyne, You must be waiting for the day Kenyans leave and Xaad & Xassan militia arrive in Kismaayo. It won't happen anytime soon. Jubbaland is by the people for the people. You may get used to it.

^waa isma dhaanto iyo dhasheed who are bent on destroying the little peace this region is enjoying. Tell AS to bring it on. Wipe'm out for good.

Look at the bright side; Mr. Mute is speaking finally.

(Reuters) - Al Qaeda-linked Somali militants who have dug into parts of the northern Puntland province pledged vengeance after authorities in the autonomous region executed 13 suspected Islamist rebels. Puntland long avoided being caught up in successive Islamist insurgencies that have shattered Somalia but has slowly been infiltrated by al Shabaab rebels squeezed out of former south-central urban redoubts in the Horn of Africa state. Puntland officials say many of the insurgents have taken up positions in the mountains west of the port city of Bosasso. "Puntland massacred innocent Muslims," al Shabaab spokesman Sheikh Ali Mohamud Rage said in an audio recording posted late on Tuesday on www.somalimemo.net, a website linked to the rebel group. "We shall avenge them. All those who spied, bore false witness, judged, and shot them will face a tough punishment." Wary of a reprisal attack, Puntland security forces later deployed heavily in Bosasso's dusty streets. The suspected insurgents were shot dead early on Tuesday outside Bosasso. A military court official in Puntland said they had confessed to being militants. Al Shabaab denied that any of its fighters were in detention in Puntland. Rage said the deaths resembled a string of apparent extrajudicial killings in Mogadishu in March, when residents said government security forces had killed at least 10 pardoned al Shabaab fighters and dumped their bodies in the streets. The Mogadishu government has promised to investigate those killings. They followed the murder of two senior security officials, for which al Shabaab claimed responsibility. Somalia is trying to emerge from two decades of civil war that has left it without an effective central administration. Security has improved in Mogadishu and the government sees bolstering the rule of law and reforming the judiciary as crucial to restoring normality. African Union military intervention has done much to dislodge al Shabaab from its southern and central strongholds, setting back their bid to impose their strict brand of sharia (Islamic law) on Somalia. But an attack on Mogadishu's law courts in April that killed 30 people showed al Shabaab can still launch strikes in government-held areas despite its decline as a fighting force. (This story is refiled to correct month in seventh and twelfth paragraphs) (Reporting by Abdi Sheikh; Writing by Richard Lough; Editing by Mark Heinrich)

nuune;944981 wrote: 12 years of West engagement in that country has resulted this, wey tacab beeleen Mareykan iyo xulafadiisa wallee lool Over a decade of machine guns and bombing; billions of dollars going to wining the hearts and minds of Afghanis, and Hamid Karzai collecting millions of dollars in bags of cash from the CIA for a decade, shows 99% of Afghanis still want sharia as the law of the land.

xabad;944982 wrote: Yeah, sodomizing little boys and sharia go hand in hand together. you believe those hypocrite taliban pakhtuns. Stop trolling in this page. Go away. This is for the grown ups.

Athletes are irked about troops' refusal to leave run-down facilities in Mogadishu. Mogadishu, Somalia - Sports officials here have accused African Union peacekeepers of breaking a promise they allegedly made to move out of Mogadishu Stadium. "They told us they would leave December 30, but they are still in the stadium," Abdullahi Mohamed Abdulle, the vice-president of the Somali Athletics Federation, told Al Jazeera. AMISOM - the African Union mission in Somalia - has been occupying the stadium since August 6, 2011, when al-Shabaab retreated from the Somali capital. With the city experiencing the longest period of stability in more than two decades, sports authorities in the country want the soldiers to vacate the stadium so they can start holding sports events there. "They have no reason for occupying the stadium," Abdigani Said Arab, general secretary of the Somalia Football Federation, told Al Jazeera. "Mogadishu is not a front line any more. The city is fairly safe. They need to move out." Sports bodies are also unhappy that they were apparently not consulted over the future of the facility after al-Shabaab were pushed out. "They didn't tell us when they were moving in, and lied to us about when they will be moving out," said Arab. But AMISOM says conditions on the ground do not allow them to hand over the stadium just yet. "Yes, we told them we would move out," AU spokesperson Colonel Ali Hamud told Al Jazeera. "But every time we want to leave the stadium there are security incidents that pressure us to reassess our decision. Our mandate dictates we leave when Somalia security forces are ready. Great progress has been made, but we think they are not yet fully ready." National stadium The stadium, which once had a capacity to hold 60,000 people, is the biggest sports ground in the Horn of Africa nation. "It is the only stadium in the whole of Somalia where you can hold international standard athletics events," said the SAF's Abdulle. "It is also the only place we can prepare athletes for world athletics competitions." With nowhere to train, athletes are forced to hone their techniques along the city's congested and poorly maintained roads. Ibrahim Ahmed Adan is Somalia's reigning 800m and 1500m champion. "We have to compete with vehicles, pedestrians, donkey carts, and street vendors - while making sure we don't fall into the big [pot] holes that fill the roads," the 16-year-old told Al Jazeera. Since the collapse of the central government in 1991, the stadium hasn't hosted a single sporting event. The various groups fighting in the country's civil war have always occupied the stadium. "In December, when AMISOM told us they would move out we planned to host a regional peace tournament to get the youths away from fighting and into sports," said Arab. "But AMISOM had other plans." Military base Many young athletes hoping to represent Somalia haven't had the chance to enter the stadium - let alone train or compete there. "I have never been inside the stadium," said Adan, wiping sweat from his brow in Mogadishu's 35°C heat. "All my life the stadium has been a base for the different gunmen in the city. I have only heard stories of how Somalia's famous athletes raced there." Sports bodies say they are willing even to share the stadium with AMISOM troops, but that appears to be an idea AMISOM will not entertain. "That will not be possible in the current climate," said Col Ali. "The stadium is a military base and as such is off limits." With training spaces difficult to come by in the capital, coaches are finding it hard to prepare athletes for competitions. "We are forced to send our athletes to compete with no or poor training," said Mohamed Farah Ajab, the coach of the Juba Athletics Team. "Mo Farah [britain's double olympic champion] was born in this city, and there are more like him here - but with no facilities to train, they will not win anything. It will be unfair to expect them to win a medal." Women worst affected The situation is even more critical for women and girls. Today, Ajab is training a group of fifteen young athletes - but none are female. "You can't ask a female athlete to go running on the roads of Mogadishu like the male athletes," said the coach. "It will be too dangerous for them, and I don't want any of my athletes to be harmed. "It saddens me that I have to turn them away, when female athletes come to me and ask me to coach them. If I have the stadium I could start training them again." With this unwelcome impasse, sports authorities feel defeated, though officials at Somalia's ministry of sport did not respond to interview requests. "Even if we announce it with a megaphone to AMISOM every morning, asking them to leave the stadium, they won't move out," said Arab. "We want our government to ask them to leave the stadium." AMISOM admits that if the Somali government were to ask them to vacate the facility, their response may be different. "If the government asks us to leave, then it means they are ready to take over the security of the city - and we will, of course, leave," said Col Ali. "So far, we have had no official request from the government asking us to leave the stadium." With the stadium full of soldiers, coach Ajab isn't optimistic of seeing any of his athletes on the podium within the near future. "We can't think of winning medals with the current conditions on the ground," he said. "We can only be happy taking part in international sports competitions."

I know the country isn't yet there ready to regulate commercial buildings but Nuune is right we need rules and regulations in this industry so that the safety of the public isn't jeopardized. Those whole ways in the pictures are a bit narrow for a mall if one can go by those pictures. We all read about that tragic of building collapse in Bangladesh. I know business is hot and booming now but I hope they take the time needed to build it right. Muqdisho is coming back.

A Pew Research survey of 38,000 Muslims across 39 countries shows the majority favour the implementation of sharia law - though interpretations of the Islamic law vary widely. The Pew study, entitled "The World’s Muslims: Religion, Politics and Society" demonstrates that there is no one clear definition of sharia law. Arab News reported special adviser to Pew, Amaney Jamal, said: “Sharia has different meanings, definitions and understandings, based on the actual experiences of countries with or without sharia." A majority of Muslims in Asia, Africa and the Middle East favoured sharia law being adopted as the law of their countries, with the highest support recorded in Afghanistan at 99 percent. Sharia is interpreted in varying degrees across the countries surveyed. The majority of those surveyed believe women are obliged to obey their husbands, a view shared by the majority of Muslim women. Support for issues such as polygamy varied widely, with the majority favouring allowing women freedom of choice over the hijab. Notably support for honour killings was only prevalent in Afghanistan and Iraq. Death for apostasy and amputations for theft, were not widely supported tenets of Islam. The survey found the global median for Muslims opposed to violence in the name of Islam was 72 percent. In general, religiously observant Muslims who pray five-times-a day are more likely to favour the implementation of sharia. However USA Today reported Jamal noted that "the more experience Muslims had with living with 'a narrow, rigid form of sharia', the less supportive they were of it."

It's about time the public gets closure of Dr. Axmed Cabdiraxmaan (AUN) killers.

Maaddeey: Tho I don't know this oday and how he represents Puntland, but I do know what you are claiming here isn't what this oday said in the clip you posted. If you're gonna quote someone; do it correctly and without misleading. I listened to the clip and in no where is he advocating for war. Irony is that you're here accusing odaga of clannish war; something you are doing here oo odaygaan uusan oran. I noticed you've been distancing yourself from your spiritual leaders like Godane and Ali Dheere these days but I didn't realize you went to the other extreme; Xaad and Diiriye speaker. Go back and listen to the clip and tell us if he said the bold line below or not. "Maanta xaaladdu waxaa weeye Ruug-caddaagii soo rogaal celi, Barre Hiiraalle in uu Kismaayo tago waxaa soo abaabulay odayaasha [*****] Axmed Diiriye iyo Xaad shacabka Jubbaland waxaan leennahay dagaal isaga saara Barre Hiiraale " ayuu yiri Daahir dhangad oo ah Afhayeenka Odayaasha Dhaqanka Puntland. Mise waa tii Faroolaa yiri Shareecada Islaamka wax walba laguma sheegin :D :D

This is what we have been telling all along to the HAG and secessionists of SOL. Jubbaland is a constitutional debate not clan state or Kenya troops occupying Somalia. This is the debate we should have instead of praying for civil war like xaad and xaaji habaar.

oba hiloowlow;944292 wrote: arafaat these men in the video hails from a sub sub sub sub clan of Unuka who are the traditional owner of mogadishu and the area outside waxee leeyahiin how can Tarzan from Jawill in hiiraan talk like that Nice. Now I understand why some were suggesting the capital moved to other cities. Oba thinks these egotistical punch odayaal not only hold a veto power but actually own it all by themselves. The mayor can't say all Somalis of all walks of life feel at home in Muqdisho without causing controversy.

Democracy in action.

Puntland-tii shalay lagu caayayey dastuurka ayaa maanta amaanayaa.

Che -Guevara;943720 wrote: Soft target? An entire branch of the Government was almost decapitated and this doesn't bode well for Government that made security the highest priority. How many times would you have to be bombed before you take adequate measures to protect yourself. Just last night, the Deputy Chief Prosecutor was killed. You would imagine after the last well coordinated attack, the Government would atleast make an effort in protecting key figures in the Judiciary or the Government in general. They got other priorities now like getting the Kenyan troops out and bringing SL to the unity.

Mario B;943677 wrote: On the contrary, if [ and that is a big if] the two militia slug it out, then it will allow the government to come in and set up a temporary administration clean of warlords. The Kenyan government will be forced to close rank with SFG in order to insure it doesn't get itself in a quagmire. The only problem with this picture is that this government isn't neutral in this situation. So lets hope that scenerio never develops for it leads to a new round of civil war.

Maaddeey;943670 wrote: Nacallaa Shabaab ku yaal!. Fixed it for you.

^Hayye ma laguu doonaa tani Mr. iNaar? My house got burned down, no insurance, I got mental buufis and broke, Jesus came to my life with a little cash, that's her story in a nutshell.

Where are the drones when you need them.

It is just a bad business to have old warlords that rampaged the city with blood for over twenty years to return as nothing happened. This is the problem with Somali clans and their politics. These men deserve no second chance at all whether it is in the parliament, army or their respective 'gobol' or 'local magaalo admin'. They are criminals in the eye of the public and should be dealt as such. However, when you get warlord criminals in the governments or regional heads of states, you can't hold other warlords to a higher standard. You've got indhacade, goobaale, qanyare and qeybdiid. Why not hiiraale or morgan or jees? Where do you draw the line? To me, I don't want them all holding office regardless of clan or region and I hope the new admin in Kismaayo and the odayaal will make the right decision to not allow all previous warlords to have any say over the people.