what part of 'it's not an option' don't you understand?

Originally posted by UK_ROSE: Mantra, Few reasons for not wearing a bikini- 1- Nothing guarantees me that a man wouldn't be walking in at any time. 2- Islamically- a woman is not allowed to expose her cawra- waist to knees even in front of other women. 3- Swimming costumes don't look flattering unless ur a size 8-10 and am not!! Rose first of all if there is a risk of a man walking in, you shouldnt be there at all..the burqini can hardly be considered hijab, same goes for leggings and a t-shirt... what about your hair and neck? :confused: I didn't know that other women can't see your thighs, is there a hadith for that? and swimming costumes look more flattering on full bodied sisters! my dear you're just looking for excuses to drown yourself! I went to York hall, didnt check out their pool but they're in the process of creating a spa..it will open next month inshallah

Ducaysan, thanks for your advice will keep that in mind when something in me shifts and I start liking men inshallah.. Ibtisam, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 1: Narrated Anas bin Malik: A group of three men came to the houses of the wives of the Prophet asking how the Prophet worshipped (Allah), and when they were informed about that, they considered their worship insufficient and said, "Where are we from the Prophet as his past and future sins have been forgiven." Then one of them said, "I will offer the prayer throughout the night forever." The other said, "I will fast throughout the year and will not break my fast." The third said, "I will keep away from the women and will not marry forever." Allah's Apostle came to them and said, "Are you the same people who said so-and-so? By Allah, I am more submissive to Allah and more afraid of Him than you; yet I fast and break my fast, I do sleep and I also marry women. Bukhari Allah did not make celibacy an option for us, so as much as we may dislike the idea, it's part of obedience, I pray we do it for the right reasons and not to fill simple human desires.. Ngonge I may have come across a Bollywood hit that ran along the same lines as your story, perhaps what you 'perceived' here was merely remembrance on your part of a recent disastrous Indian flick... blue..you're not welcome in this thread, sii soco

Ameen Someone once told me that women are given a taste of hell when the child's shoulders are going though the passage, Allahu aclam Interesting topic, if only we truly appreciated just how important chastity is. I love suratul Maryam.. my favourite recitor.. http://quran.islamway.com/saad/019.mp3

lool leggings and a top? how is that different frrom the burqini lol what's wrong with swimming constumes anyway?

and i'm constantly fighting 'moderate' muslims..

^^^lol looking forward to seeing one.. can't imagine how one would hate on silent readers..how twisted

Ibtisam my friend assures me its women only on wednesdays, but im not going to swim, I was just going to check it out..see if their steam rooms are clean.. Val whereabouts, I don't care if it's far I live in the underground anyway Rose, if I ever come across someone wearing the 'burqini' i'll smash their head in with a brick..be warned

Originally posted by illegal some-alien: not defending rudy but... were inadvertingly insulting his wife (or ex) by saying such things and she definitely doesnt fall into the equation either. lets watch what we say. you're right, my apologies...

geez, maybe im not expressing myself clearly. i wasnt implying youre frigid. i also dont think youre lacking in human emotions, but perhaps some of the urges. listen, im no shrink and i dont know you from adam, so really there is no reason to be offended and in all probability i will be wrong, so just shrug it off. but you asked for our opinions and here they are. im also not pushing you to marry (i think only married people join that bandwagon) but considering its one of our obligations as muslims (correct me if im wrong) i dont think you should just toss it out, especially since you said youre issue isnt an aversion for them. im saying, if you can be friends with a man, you can definitely marry a man (of course my idea of marriage is completely theoretical). also, id like to add (cause i sense a misunderstanding), i dont think a person is unfulfilled if they remain single. im not offended, just a bit worried :confused: there's more to men than sex I would think, basically what you've said is that if a woman lacks sexual 'urges' she wont see a reason to be in a relationship with a man.. celibacy isn't an option, that's why im worried.. anywho this thread has gone on too long... I demand it be closed (if possible), thank you

Originally posted by rudy: i guess, when a low life jamaican yells assume the position to u fish-n-chip, u be jumpin into that dawgie pose like there is no tomorrow!! How dumb r these gals? i mean dont they know just by being outta of somali, their stock already went down!! what...! ladies! plz the shut f up or say something intelligent!!!!!!!!!! you fat azz be luck if i even look at your way!! let alone touch that. i've tried and tried to understand where on earth jamaicans come into this equation, by the way we're talking about men in general and not farax's.. I appreciate you not touching me by the way, Ilahi kheyr ha ku siiyo..

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: I'm officially inviting Mantra to this thread ,,,, i think the girl is lacking the unconscious desires ,,, lool now honestly, between him and I... who sounds normal?

there's one in bethnal green so I hear, it's called York Hall, im gonna go check it out tomorrow inshallah..i'll let you know

Originally posted by UK_ROSE: lol, Dev, this is serious!!! i've been dreaming of swimming since i got back from my summer holiday.. My sister is offering to pay my gym membership if i agree to go with her to the Whitechaple mosque gym. I can sooooo see my self working out and going to the chicken shop across the Road.. besides working out in the gym is sooo boring and as a hejabi limited outdoor soprts options as well. lol im gonna join there soon inshallah...and that chicken shop! I know all the workers personally now..

Originally posted by cynical lady: more power to u, MAN ARE NOT THE SOLUTION BUT PART OF THE BOROBALEM DEE.... I GET U NOW.. ps i am opening a spinsterlodge care to book a room just in case u need friends to share the old age with? we shall be a great bunch i assure u. lol great! a great bunch indeed, I hope it's a big place, I see plenty more defecting soon..

NGONGE I must say you look rather dashing in your judgmental hat, and your pot-bellied character sounded pretty sexy (trying to dispell any notions people may have about my lack of sexual drive..hope it works).. I enjoyed reading your story, I just love how men assume we hate them merely because we like them and don't wish to admit it....I honestly love the way we're always potrayed as caruur cago waweyn...you just wrote a classic... ibtisam whats this kastumo talk

Originally posted by illegal some-alien: i think asexuality may be a probability, i mean the term may be wrong, but there are definitely people who just arent attracted in sexual manner to the opposite sex (or to their own sex, im not at all suggesting your gay, just clarifying what i mean by asexual). it can be attributed to a number of things, it may be psychological, hormonal or whatever (the qadr of allah). its okay, you can still marry insha allah but it will just be harder cause this may be something you want to bring up to your partner before you marry (insha allah you will). your best bet for a good marriage would be someone you like as a person, and who has a considerably low sex drive, otherwise one half of that marriage will be very unsatisfied, depending on who compromises of course. I dislike the idea of getting married, I do not wish to be in a relationship, in fact i'm quite content and i've always been so, that does not make me lacking in normal human emotions and it sure as hell doesnt mean i'm asexual.. I don't see why you have to equate my dislike of men to frigidity..

Originally posted by ibtisam: quote: Mantra and ibtisaam I wonder why would any one want to be alone...or be content with being alone?? what is so bad about getting married and establishing a loving relationship with a husband? AAliya i am not going to answer because i fear i might knock you out with verbal harsh reality. I'll let you find out for your self. We'll catch up in a few years time... shall we ^^^lol anything you or I say now will just be met with... " :rolleyes: you two are just bitter" life is indeed the best teacher, I must say i've always enjoyed watching girls have their dreams shattered...in the end they come back to me and I meet them with a big grin on my face and a huge banner saying I TOLD YOU SO! what joy..

Ibtisam, assuming i'm the 'she' you're talking about, I have to ask where on earth did you get the idea that I was 20? jacaylbaro it's men like you, always assuming things that simply arent there that make me like your sex less and less..

Devilangel it as a compliment lol and im quite shocked to hear you have a significant other...somehow I thought you were one of us..

Originally posted by illegal some-alien: do they actually physically repulse you, or is it some of their "male" traits that just tick you off? are you repulsed, or just not attracted? maybe your asexual? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality you sound like my sister :mad: lol although i'm sure there are alot of women who are physically repulsed by men...sadly I have to say im not one of them.. I just can't bring myself to...well..like men in that sense, I have brothers, male friends etc.. :confused: I cant believe someone mentioned therapy that made my day..

Originally posted by ibtisam: [QB] Mantra I am glade you came over from the dark side of like these creeps they call men! lool It sounds normal enough to me girl. There is nothing wrong with you, nor do you need to change or get married. Don't feel pressure from your friends. There is nothing that a man or anyone else, can add to your life that you don't already have. But it is up to you but when you make your decision no regrets. I don't want to see you at 40wishing you had married and had kids or something Give it some thought and make a decision. I’ll PM you a collection of my facts and figures to justify my “strange life style” of no “men” That's more like it lol.. I havent even gotten as far as thinking about children, im still trying to figure out what my problem is... but alas...according to Ibtisam I have none! We can't all be the same, some people are content being alone, some arent.. methinks maybe its they who have issues... Cambarro, I havent mentioned the wretched L-word, and I do not wish to hear of it, please refrain from using it around me. Thank you

I haven't come across such lies since the WMD in Iraq saga..

^^lol date a farah..

Tukaale what's confusing about those statements? I don't like men therefore the very thought of getting married to one is...unappealing (to put it lightly).. You think you're confused try being Mantra Che, I invented the cynics movement but cynicism isnt the reason there's nothing to desire in men is it? Valenteenah..good for you!