LOL, JB Heerkaas maa gaartay saxib? Inaa iska dhaadhiciso somalia inaa ka tirsaneen? Hal qabiil waddan ma noqdo bro, taariikhdii gumeysiga ingiriiskana soomaalida waa ka socotay. There is new game in town called clanism. Riyada somaliland waa kugu kaligaa qabiil ahaan. Inta afka kaa raacsanna waxay la'yihiin wax kale oo ay isku halayn karaan, some of them who never supported secession moved on on their own like Maakhir state, our burgeoning new state, the rest of the clansmen in the north markay helaan something they can rely on, you will be alone as well. Needless to say when somalis see honest movement who stands for unity, brotherhood, and islamic laws, the clan politics is replaced with islamic one. You remember how Somaliland rulers found themselves in a difficult position in the ICU days. Puntland was as fearful. Soomaalida intay islaamka cagaha hoostooda ku haayaan iska riyoo.

^ Riyaale is equally a pu-ssy, and I can't believe I used the word. Just to stress a point saxib. Let us face it, Nin rag ah kuma jiro inta wax xukunta somalia. Waa wada dulli iyaga iyo wixii taageersan.

Originally posted by Nephthys: save some qosol and L0L-ing for later, when you hear the old man's ranting and raving, airing from radio Puntland, angrily denying that the incident happened: " layma dhirbaaxin, waa beentoood, Gabre waa saaxiibkeeygii koowaad, kaalaya wejigayga ma jug baa ka muuqata i fiiriya.. " LoooL. Abaayadiis, duqa waa xafiday dabeecadiisa. I think he should come out and do this "denial" soon to put this news to rest. A/Y ceeb ma qabato. ME Saxib, while this event(if factual) is not acceptable to us, it reflects poorly on A/Y as a man at the same time. He will be lampooned as the st00ge who has fallen out of grace with his patrons and who got slapped.

Did anyone watch one of A/Y's recent interviews by Universal TV posted on SOL? He was adamant about Ethiopians never leaving Somalia so I doubt Gabre would scold A/Y let alone slap the old hag. If this is true though, it tells the world that somalia is no more and has been annexed officially by Ethiopia. The incident means placeholders like A/Y outlived their use as a meaningful tool to occupy somalia and are equal now to the average somalis in the eyes of the occupiers. I don't think the news would reflect negatively on somalis except strengthen the view that we are occupied and the so called rulers are nothing more than useless men slapped around when they fall out of line. It legitimizes the opposition to the Xabashis and the war against them.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: I remember abu-ras bus whose buliyeeti we used to use as a movie ticket. My time in Xamar was the best time! LOL, shineemadee gali jirtay bro? aniga Missione iyo Banadir with aabo occassionaly when I made good grades in school. Abaal marin aa la iiga dhigi jiray kobashino, sandwhich, iyo shineemo, and a little shopping once in a while. I then get introduced to his friends with aabo mentioning the grades and how bravo I was LOL. It is a lost paradise never to return as it was. PS: da'da aan kugu riixay pageka hore waa kaftan saxib, anaa kaa ween

^ Like I said before, when the guns go silent and somalis have a government they are happy with, with ethiopians departed, people will realize how important the war against the Xabashis in Muqdisho was despite the massive loss of men and material. The xabashis would have their garrissons in Muqdisho as permanent if nobody would have resisted them. They would fire and hire mules as they please and continue their grip on Somalia throughout generations to come just as they did throughout history with the western somaliland they occupy. They never let go a land they settle but appropriate it for themselves and torture everything that moves in it including animals. The war against them should continue untill a change favourite to our future comes and we have a chance of extricating ourselves from permanent ethiopian occupation both physical and political.

Times flies wallahi, if you were like Me and Che in grade 5 in the year 1990, now you are in your late 20s, imagine xarfaantii dugsiga sare ka baxday oo daljirka dahsoon iyagoo shineemo misiyoone ama banadir u socdo soo agmari jire taalladaas? Xiinfaniin comes to mind LOL, they are like what? in their forties? My mind is slow, I can't calculate their age. Me and Che, you boys are younger than I could have imagined. Odayaal aan idiin maleen jiray.

LOL@little stiff, imagine if I asked for their heads saxib. Soo bandhig siday kula tahay in la isugu imaan karo.

^ TFG SOL secretary, his excellency Duke posted something about that earlier bro. Allpuntland website might have some info with regards to that.

^ The hint is Galmudugs are in cahoots with the TFG(Warlord Qeybdiid's contribution to the TFG) while the Cadaado folks aren't. Sheekada fahan, that is why according to JG, the cadaado militants(read townspeople) have the potential to disrupt the peace of their neighbours. Argagixiso waaye no sheekada maadaama ay kasoo horjeedaan Xabashida muqdisho dadka ku leyneyso. Btw, Hobyo weligaa ma tagtay? It was never in my list to visit when I go back to Somalia but have changed my mind. I like what I see now, time these folks to settle where they belong and build their empty towns instead. I can imagine how beautiful hobyo would look by now had these people built their homes there instead of Jidka warshadaha and huriwaa. Now a near total waste I hear thanks to the Xabashi bombardment.

^LOL, Odaga flew from London but decided to make a stop at his boss's villa in Addis to be briefed. Dhallinyarada masawirka ka muuqata look determined.

^ Do they keep changing their websites? They are on the move even online lol.

^ Do they keep changing their websites? They are on the move even online lol.

The way to peace: A- Reform the TFG, get rid of Warlord A/Y and other criminals in that organization to show good faith. This will leave government institutions in place but only removes known criminals from the political scene. B- Timetable for Xabashi troop withdrawal Those two can remove the deadlock faster than anything else. If you disagree with the removal of criminals like A/Y who is never a man of peace, and other criminals like Maxamed Dheere whose aired animonsities towards certain clans added fuel to the fire, clarify your objections and why you think their removal is not important for peace. I have given mine in my previous post and why all men with bad faith should be removed for there to be peace. Their presence as active actors bodes ill for progress and the record shows. If you disagree with that, tell us why.

Centurion: I think we can safely say that the overwhelming majority of Somalis know(or will if we see another decade of hopeless turmoil) that a transparent and genuinely inclusive process is required. The real problem is finding the right people to initiate and deliver this process. This quote above from the first page touches the most important point and prerequisites with regards to reconciliation and peace. You need partners for peace with credibility. If you don't have them, it is a waste of time. As long as the TFG exists as it is and in its current form, there will be no peace. You can not trust a single person among the top dogs in that organization with the exception of the new PM whose pronouncements are yet to be implemented. Some of you can sound the right notes all they want, but the bottomline is to give the opposition and people whose lives have been destroyed a real deal for which they can settle, and to brin men whom they can trust their word to the negotiating table for them to lay down the weapons. If not, there will be no resolution. The war in Muqdisho and in some other parts in the south goes on as I write relentless. Hunguri Does your friends know that you call a war criminal your hero? that your hero is for others a monster who should be hanged? that he is a man who waged a war on the defenseless and on the unarmed civilians whom he killed by the thousands already? You are one among many reasons people are skeptical of peace talk saxib to be honest. Calling for Peace with the TFG criminals is a hollow call that doesn't take into account the real grievances people have and the change they require for peace to be there. They can't trust the same criminals who bloodied them without remorse. In addition to that, peace is impossible while the same forces who empower these warlords are still around, namely Xabashi troops. And we know as well for a fact that there is no incentive for the warlords to co-sign peace because peace requires them to give-up their ill-gotten status. The same reasons these criminals and warlords dealt a heavy blow to peace yesterday are still there, sitting with them is just being delusional, and in some cases, down right dishonest.

^ Aryan Nation Idaho voted 98% for Obama LOL. That is strange.

^ Indeed saxib, The clintons tried deceptively to depict him as black candidate for blacks and they failed miserably. Minnesota is white majority state and voted for him just as many redneck states voted for Obama.

^Obama has better chances of becoming a president if he wins now. Many republicans according to some polls suggested they are open to voting him in instead of McCain. However, if Mrs.Clinton wins, All republicans are dead certain to vote against her. American voters will be split 50/50 which isn't good for democrats.

Obama all the way. What month is the presidential vote anyway? Nov?I never voted but might this time if Obama wins the Democratic ticket. The old lady is just as bad as McCain.

The article quoted below may be relevant to the discussion. If this materializes, and Ethiopian troops leave our country, negotiations are possible. Ciidamo la geynayo Somalia 3 Feb 3, 2008 - 12:42:35 PM Ra'iisul Wasaaraha Somalia Nuur Xasan Xuseen [Nuur Cadde] oo u warramayay Idaacadda BBC-da qaybteeda Afka Carabiga ayaa sheegay inuu helay damaanad-qaad ku aaddan in ciidamo la geynayo Somalia. Nuur Cadde, wuxuu sheegay in madaxdii horay u ballaqaaday inay ciiidamo geynayaan Somalia ay u sheegeen isaga inay geyn doonaan Somalia ciidamadii ay ballanqaadeen xilliyada soo socda, isagoo sheegay in hadalkaas ka sheegeen shir madaxeedka Afrika. "Madaxweynaha Nigeria Umaru Musa Yar'Adua, wuxuu si gaar ah iigu sheegay in dalkiisa uu diyaar u yahay inuu ciidamo u diro Somalia, kuwaasoo qayb ka noqon doona nabad ilaaliyeyaasha Afirkaanka ah ee AMISOM" ayuu sheegay Nuur Xasan Xuseen [Nuur Cadde]. Ra'iisul Wasaaruhu, wuxuu sidoo kale sheegay in xoghayaha guud ee Qarammada Midoobay Ban Ki Moon ay isla garteen in ciidamo nabad ilaalin ah oo ka socda Qarammada Midoobay loo soo diro Somalia, si ay u badalaan ciidamada Afrikaanka iyo kuwa Itoobiyaanka ah ee ku sugan Somalia. Waxaa jira warar soo baxaya oo sheegaya in Ra'isal Wasaraha Somalia aad u doonayo in la helo ciidamo lagu badalo kuwa Ethiopia oo iminka ku sugan Somalia madaama ay adagtahay in wadhadal lala furo mucaaradka. Dalal ka mid ah Midowga Afrika ayaa waxay horay u ballanqadeen inay u soo dirayaan Somalia ciidamo nabad ilaalin ah; kuwaasoo gaaraya 8500-askari, waxaase ku sugan Somalia in ka badan 2000-askari; waxayna madaxda dalalkaas horay u sheegeen inaysan geyn karin Somalia ciidamo sababo ku aaddan dagaallada u dhexeeya dagaallada ka dhaca caasimadda Somalia. Garowe Online, Muqdisho http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Wararka_19/Ciidamo_la_geynayo_Somalia.shtml

The world community should bribe the opposition leaders and promise them something in return for giving up their claim to victory. Kenyans are not resilient like somalis, they will perish in no time. Faqri laga naxaa awalba haystay waana dad aan waxba is tarin, hope they don't take the somali route in kastoo afrikanka isku caqli yihiin. That is where they are headed now.

It is called Stockholm syndrome, the captive identifies with and becomes sympathetic towards their captor for a while. Hadda dhow yaad maqli doontaa isagoo qeyli dhaaminaaya oo leh Xabashi haka Baxdo waddanka.

Originally posted by Juje: [qb] No No sxb, sebey ka noqotey adiga, magalo madaxda GalMudug waa Tokyo. LOL, bro, Wasn't aware Galkacyo South was their main Capital. Hobyo aan u maleenaayay magaalo madaxda Galmudug. They are doing a good job putting kids in schools and instilling some values in them.

Max’ed Dheere oo ugu Baaqay Mucaaradka Wadahadal iyo in dilka laga daayo Maamulkiisa Beerdhiga 31.01.2008 14:31 Maxamed Cumar Xabeeb(Maxamed Dheere) ayaa markii ugu horeysay shaaca xiligan in Mucaaradka ka soo horjeeda DFKMG ah ay ka qeyb galaan wada hadalka uu ku dhawaaqay Nuur Xasan Xuseen isla markaana ay joojiyaan waxa uu ku sheegay dilalka loo geysanayo Maamulkiisa. Max’ed Dheere ayaa sheegay in iska Hor’imaadyada u dhaxeeya xoogaga mujaahidiinta soomaaliyeed iyo Ciidamada Gumeysiga itoobiya oo kaashanaya kuwa la shaqeeya ay ku dhibaatoodeen maamulkiisa isla markaana ay ka soo gaareen khasaarooyin nafeed oo uu sheegay in laga dilay 9 gudoomiye degmo. “Isqab qabsiga u dhexeeyay dowalada Soomaaliya iyo xoogaga ka soo hor jeeda waxaa uu dhabarjab ku noqday howlihii maamulka gobolka hor yaalaya sidoo kale waxaa ay dhibaato ka soo gaartay shacabka sida caruurta iyo haweenka oo hoobiye lagu laayay, waxaan mucaaradka ugu baaqeeynaa in aya nala qaataan nabada aan ugu baaqnay" ayuu yiri Max'ed Dheere Shalay ayuu maxamed dheere sheegay ka dib kulan ay ku yeesheen guddoomiyayaashiisa ugu qaabilsan degmooyinka gobolka banadir iyo xubno ka ka mid ah kuxigeenaddiisa xarunta gaadiidka booliska in mucaaradka ay joojiyaan weerarada qaraxyada iyo dilalka qorshaysan ee ay ku khaarajinayaan madaxda DFKMG ah waxaan uu yiri isaga oo arintaasi ka hadlaya “Kuwa isku sheegaya mucaaradka amase kuwa nala dhashay ee soomaaliyeed waxaan leeyahay nin god galay soo ma baxeen waa la heshii doonaahe waxaad yeelaysiin dadka dilka ka dhaafa”. Hadalka Max’ed Dheere uu maanta ka sheegay xarunta Gobolka Banaadir kadib shir uu la qaatay xubno ka mida Cidanka Dowlada Hoose ee la shaqeysa Gumeysiga ayaa ku soo beegmaya iyada oo ay wadaan Ciidamada Gumeysiga Itoobiya iyo kuwa la shaqeeya dhaq dhaqaaq ciidan oo u muuqda istiraatiijad dagaal, isla markaana uu Nuur Cadde wado siyaasad madax salaax ah. www.Beerdhiga.com

Afhayeenkii Gobolka Banaadir oo la Khaarajiyay iyo Bootaan Ciise Caalin oo dhaawac loo gaystay Beerdhiga 31.01.2008 21:40 Afahayeenkii gobolka banaadir Cabaas Maxamed Galayr ayaa caawa abaare 7:00 fiidnimo xilliga Muqdisho waxaa lagu toogtay gudaha Degmada Xamar weyne ee Caasimadda Muqdisho. Caawa fiidnimadii ayaa laba Nin oo ku hubaysan bastoolado waxay dil toogasho ah u gaysteen Cabaas galayr oo ahaa Afhayeenka Gobolka Banaadir kaas oo goordhaw loo magacaabay Jagadaas kadib markii dhawaan Afhayeenkii hore Maxamed Muxyadiin cali lagu khaarajiyay degmada kaaraan. Falkan ayaa waxa uu ku soo beegamayaa xilli uu maanta maxamed Dheere ka codsaday Xoogagga Mujaahidiinta in ay wada hadal la galaan Dawladda wuxxna sheegay in xubno aad u fara badan oo ka tirsanaa maamulkiisa ay khaarajiyeen Xoogagga ka soo horjeeda isla markaana ayka dhaqaajin waayeen hawlihii ay ka fulin lahaayeen gobolka Banaadir. Sidoo kale waxaa caawa dhaawac loogu geystay Xaafadda Buula xuubeey ee Degmada Wadajir Bootaan Ciise Caalin oo ka tirsan Baarlaman DFKMG ah ee la shaqeeya gumaysiga Itoobiya isla markaana ahaa mid ka mid ah Hogaamiye kooxeedyadii Caasimadda wuxuuna xubin ka ahaa Isbahaysigii Ladagaanalka Argagixisada ee Maxkamadaha Islaamiga ahu ay ka saareen Magaalada Muqdisho. Waxaa aad sare ugu kacay falalka ay xoogagga Mujaahidiintu ku khaarajinayan xubnaha ka tirsan dawladda FKMG ah ee la shaqaysa gumaysiga ayada oo sidoo kale ay sii kordhayaan dagaalada iyo weerarada kala duwan oo ay ku qaadayaan ciidamada gumaysiga Itoobiya iyo kuwa la shaqeeya. www.Beerdhiga.com