Originally posted by Sultan Sa'd ad-Din: ^^^ lol Sxb I was talking about the ICG Laakin, as they say nin walba halkii buktaa isagey belbeshaa. Oh I see! I must have assumed that the "they" you mentioned referred to Ethiopians. Also, It must be my familiarity with the warm reception some northerners have for the Ethiopians for reasons you are aware of. Anyway, I am the last person you would get any dispute from over your decision or any one else's decision. So Bukaan ma jiro. I don't care is a strong statement and might offend some who are not that extreme, but I really don't lose sleep over who wants to be separate. If you see yourself separate and different from others, who am I to force down into your throat otherwise? I have respect for myself and wouldn't beg anyone who doesn't appreciate my brotherhood saxib Blessed be the separation bro, that is all I have to say about it although I know others might have a different opinion. You have got mine.

May be this time they can find unity because it is Amxaaro coming, but back in the days when the US troops were the ones being fought against, there was no Unity and some somalis had the American flag flying on their houses. Soomalida isku halleyn ma leh oo waa dad isu calool adag dhexdooda cadowgoodana u nugul saxib. I naturally don't trust anyone and Somalis are at the bottom of my list. You could see some warlord after taking a bribe saying ethiopian troops are Okey to be here. Soo arag lee adiga maal maha soo socda. Kolley wax rabsho kiciyo la weyn maayo, the ragtags who put the boots in American behinds are still there. Unless they listen to their respective warlords who change their minds after some secret handshaking, Amxaaro has slim chance to be there. Already some foreign voices has spoken against careless missions to Xamar. As usual, sida suuqa la wareejiyo, bahal galeen waaye magaalada, marka laguma dhiirran karo lol. At least such aura given to the city and the alleged notoriety of its inhabitans serve a good purpose this time. Ninkii U Qeyla dhaaminaaya Amxaaro ha u qeyla dhaansado, mahaa loo fadhaa miney kusoo dhiirrahaayaan lol. I will be very disappointed if Amxaaro somehow finds its way there. What a tragedy! Somali nasabadii waa ka tagtey markaas.

What kind of a somali problem do ethiopians know about except what the ruffians of all stripes told them? Rumour has it, way back in the nineties ethiopians recorded the garbage talk between warlords who were meeting over there. That is how they got to know how many warlords slept in the same bed and how many were their antagonists. Ethiopians understood well that somali future was in the hands of those losers, and if they controlled them, they controlled the destiny of their neighbours. Each Somali group had something against their brethren and Amxaaro were the willing father-figure who eagerly provided a helping hand to every sick minded Somali who in the dark of the night sold a piece of his soul along with the dignity of Somalis. How disgusting. Qabiil inuu qofka diin iyo imaan ka qaado ka arag meeshaas. From then on, Somali affairs where in the hands of Ethiopians playing the cards correctly by using the intelligence they gathered from the warlord's disturbed, Qaat-induced, malicious souls. Suldaanka, you say they understand Somali problems because you think they might support the northern aspirations. I think you will get your wish without lowering yourself. You are going to deal with Somalis and as a Somali person who understands somali culture better than any Xabashi, you can tell your cousins(Somalis) what you want without any hassle. Amxaaro maxaa keeney meesha. The best recognition is the one from allah and for anyone to spend his short life in a dignified manner.

You guys are something of a rarity. Don't waste your time reasoning with the dead I would say. I think it helps if you guys call back home and ask how people feel about the current events. Most likely they are indifferent, or have their own biased opinion. At least that way you two don't have to feel sorry for them or wait for a rain its clouds aren't even pregnant yet. Another option is to completely tune-out of the mad-political events. Somalis are on a train destined to a place only Allah Knows about. If you try to inject sanity into their political conversation xataa, you are likely to be intimidated or forced to choose sides because you don't want to let someone toy with your proudness and dignity and let them get away with it. Guri laga wada waalan yahay nin ku nool, isna inuu waashey u badan tahay. Anyways, guys, I like you both. At least you sound reasonable people. Tomorrow I will change my mind about you if I see you biased, be forewarned Have a pleasant weekend.

I am thinking about the Movie Afrolly-Wood will be making? What will the name be? We saw black-hawk down, but what will this be named for? Abdullahi yusufna caqligaa ku yar. I don't know how on earth he thinks he is going to rule Somalia with foreign troops. Qofka hadduu xukun ku waasho fiyoobi aan Qabriga aheyn ma leh.

NGONGE has done nothing wrong within his context and commenting on where he was and what he was doing. If there was minimalization of events on his part, I think he intended to lessen any emotionality resulting out of the subject at hand according to my understanding. But then again, waxaa la yiri, hadal ninna si u yiri, ninna si u qaadey.

Saxib, What has FEMME-FATALE done when I was away from here? To my knowledge, she is cute little girl and religious. Not only would I invite her, but I would.... wait.. I need to get a permission first to say what I want to say... Or.. heck.. who cares.. I would marry her without question bro. Bro Alla-u-Baahne, You disagree with someone shouldn't mean you should avoid them unless the disagreement you have with them is like choosing between islam and disbelief. Gabadha waa walaashaa oo kale, sax nooh adiga instead. Sorry bro if you were offended. take care.

Alla-U-Baahne, Sexual ethics waxaa la dhahaa "Hab dhaqameedka galmada" in other words, "isutagga iyo Aqlaaqda waafaqsan" between a husband and a wife Get it saxib? Femme_Fatalena Waa wadaadad fiican. Very civilized indeed. She is cool One of my favorite galz in here lol.

Guardian-n-Protector, Illeen Gabar yaraa eheed? How come I thought you were in the botox group fighting wrinkles? Btw, your innocence at that time is heart-wrenching. It is better not to deal with past events as current and hold on to useless memories that serve nothing. May be people like me who are neutral biologically speaking when it comes to somalis can only do that lol. I am saved from a lot of issues that might make others emotional. Thank God. Half-W-Half-A I wonder what Half_Woman_Half_Amazing stands for? The guy's picture along with the nick confused me a little. No offence intended, but I like to know the correlation between the man's picture(your avatar), the half-Womanness and the Half_Amazingness Thanks.

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I would name my son one of these names: Samatar Cigaal Diirshe Cilmi Warsame Bulxan Ducaale Xirsi Soofe If I wanted some fancy sounding names, it would be: Ayuub Ilyaas Zakariya Yahya Shuceyb If it was a girl, It would be: Jamaad Dhuuxo Ardo Fadumo Shamso Xamdi Xaliimo

Soddohyaashoo dhan mawada xumaan karaan. There must be good ones out there who care about the well-being of their son's family and respect his wife. The best way is for the man to live far away from his family if he can. Maxaaba is arag keenaayo.

Guardian, I should have said thanks My application will come through lol. Velvet Waa cabsatey. Good for ya.

NGONGE , who is the big guy? lol. Saxib, ever since I registered Xoogsade, almost everyone thinks of me as a big guy. War innagaa yaab aragney lol. I am not big though I wish I was. Skinny Farax aan ahay. Unless the Big guy you refer to is someone else altogether, aniga xiito xiito aan ahay. Xiito=caato=skinny lol. Guardian-N-P Is xariifi weligaa. Velvet Revolution Glad we have the same opinion about Guardian, the black widow and me being the fly btw, I am curious, what do your boots represent? A simple interest in them as a fashion or something like portrayal of an EGO? lol. And they look cute. PS: If you wanna hear a reperesentation in my mind of your complete picture with those boots, you are welcome. I am hoping you won't ask for it for pete's sake.

Well guys, granted this is the benefit of Puntlanders and their economy, and things work out where each region works for its own progress, independent of a federal government, with each region their own ministers running PARALLEL to the federel Ones(Moqdishowers should form the ministries ASAP not to be left behind) Where will Abdullahi Yusuf and his adminstration fit in that picture? Because like Puntland, Mogadishu and its surroundings belongs to people who are interested in their self-interest as well, and they would be pleased to have a federal government out of their business. Imagine they sturck up a deal with china or Malasia, do business in the name of Banadir region, ignore Abduallhi Yusuf and his government. Will any of of you now defending what is going on have a reasonable argument against that? See the picture here? if puntlanders want to make progress, that is their right and they should wait for no one, but to give a federal government that many don't like some legitimacy, they(puntlanders) should do everything under its umbrella no?. Otherwise, maxaa dadka kale ku qasbey iney hoos yimaadaan dowladaan cid kale shaqo ku laheyn oo neutral ka ah waxa ka socda waddanka? This is not about some people having issues with Ethio-Puntland pact. Funny enough that such associations used to be abomination whereas now it is something to brag about. Surely times change. Consider how this regional interest without collarobation with the federal gov can solidify the wish of many. Dadka inuu fakaraa fiican and I know this place is for discussion only that won't have any bearing on what goes on back there. It seems that pursuing independently the self tribal interests known otherwise as regionalism, runs counter to the legitimacy of federal government, sidaa daraadeed, ama dowladda has a say in everywhere, or it doesn't have a say anywhere. Is that difficult to understand? I don't like qutbada beenta ahee dadka meelaha ka aqriyo. I don't wanna here about Somalinimo because I know there is nothing called Somalinimo but tribal interests. Wind.Talker. If justice for all demands dismantling the country, and that is the only way to get it, it is worth doing it sometimes instead of leaving some in a very disadvantaged position because of a system that won't deliver for them. Waxaa la yiri, waxaa naftaada la jeceshahay la jecloow qofka kalee walaalkaa, and that should be the case, no one should be at a disadvantage at anytime time. If the Federal turns out to be a disadvantage for some, they should bail out of it. Sadly however, dadaan ogahay labo isuma keeni karaan. Maxaaba difaacooda waqtiga la isaga lumiyaa.

Qabiil qaran ma dhisi karo, dadkiina waa diidey iney ka haraan, sidaa daraadeed, Aniga hadii la ila tashanaayo, Qolo walba Qabiilkeeda masjid ku magacaaban ha dhisato, Ha ku caabudaan meesha, gobol walbana haloo sameeyo aqoonsi gaar ah oo hal qabiil ama inta wada deggan leedahay. Soomaliya halagu kala tago, because dhibaatoo dhan wexey ka socotaa munaafqanimada ah Qabiilkeygana wax kasto wuu ka horeeyaa, soomalinimana waan rabaa. Hadii la eego muranka dadka iyo wexey isku heystaan, waa qabiil jecli soomaaha? marka halagu kala tago waddanka ilaahey u dacwoodey waa hore, Soomaali ereyga ah halagu beddelo Qabiilka Magaciisa oo qof walba ha hormarsado qabiilkiisa marka dhalashadiisa la wareysto, Qabiil walbana Iskiisa dowlad ha u ahaado, Qabiilkaan dowlad dhisan karin oo aan is ixtiraameynin iyaga dhexdoodana fowdada haku noolaadeen ileen iyagaa is badaye. Taasaa niyad wanaagga ku jirtaa, iyo si inta jecel iney Islaanimo ku dhimato iyagoon Cuqdad u qaadin walaalahood kale ku badbaadaan. My solution, TOTAL DISMEMBERMENT.

Just when I thought I heard everything strange, The grave-digging story came along. Some of the people stashed the bones assuming it will be priceless because Some italian or the Italian government will pay ransom for the decayed remains as I heard. Walcayaathu Billah, I wonder what else are we waiting for except the Doomsday to knock our doors sooner than we think. Idinka dowlad qaribanaa ka hadleysiin oo musuqmaasuq, qabiil iyo qurun ku dhisan, anigana waxaan la yaabanahay waalida wadanka ka jirto. Meelaha waaba is dhaamaane, aniga wexey ila tahay Xamar iney u baahan tahay Muslimiin Qabiil ka nadiif ah oo ka sifeyso magaalada foolxumada ka jirto. Ayaan darro weynaa ku dhacdey. Wind.Talker. I would take this a little further and say let each region become independent. That is more befitting. Let every region work towards what they consider their own progress, stop talking about Somalia, concentrate on their towns and regions, then sometime in the future, if others are willing, people come together again. Muranba ma jiri leheen. I think it is about time Some Somalis bury Patirotic nonsense and flow with the currents while others stop talking from both sides of their mouth.

Originally posted by Baashi: Chauvinist, I'm on shaah sxb. U should try it bro. It is better than crack, weed combined! Once u go shaah, u stay shaah...I guaranteed [/QB] Baashi, I hear you I actually left my seat to grab Shaah as soon I read your post and just came back. I was missing something this morning and found the answer in your post. Okey, to not screw up the topic and earn the wrath of VR, my comment about the topic is to say Blacks everywhere love women and glitter. Even in the poor Old Somalia, a Mason-Man would work hard all day only in the evening to hand his earning to a prostitute, buy a Bicyle and a huge Radio&recorder to play Music while cycling. They dressed fancy if they could afford and have teeth adorned with Gold as well. May be it is genetics. And I hope my comment wasn't out of line or offended someone. This has been my observation and I am not in denial of being black myself though I would argue I don't share the love of glitter or would go beyond the natural inclination of liking a woman as every man would. It is how we act on our desire that determines our morality. Guardian-n-Protector I read your username as "Guardian and Protector of Myself for the right man" and that thought makes me smile. Blowing my own trumpet makes me happy and I always place myself next with you. If I can only afford the Wedding you aspire.

A more logical and less conspiratorial description of the Free Masonry can be read in this Link. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4500571/ I think people tend to love mysteries and myths in the epic proportion. These guys seem harmless and not what they are made of. Classique Have you read "Quitting America" By Randall Robinson? A very Good book about race in America. The writer even Moved out of America and chose to live in the Neighbouring smaller Islands.

LOL@Mouthful, Sheherazade, nothing little about linguistic guidance. Management is not my area of expertise I need to be managed myself. Jilaato_Cambo. Sis, meelahaan aniga iyo Bob sheegney, Xaafado ma ahan, Meelo baadiyaha Kismayo iyo Afmadow(small town) agaheeda ka tirsan waaye. Sorry about the confusion and the hijacking(on my part) of the thread.

Femme Fatale, LOL. The "torture" here is the kind your Guy used to do to you. The Mental anguish, the Jealousy he created in you and etc. The "special" thing would be the means you offered(PM) to share with me your style if the tides turned against him.

Femme Fatale, That would be fun My long-mouthedness(as we say in somali) has earned me something special. Thanks in Advance. If I wasn't selfish, I would have cajoled you into accomodating the admins while you try to keep the fun in your post and make it public, however, being who I am, PM it is lol. And Thanks again.

Femme Fatale, Thanks. That will be as much fun read as it was I suspect when you were the victim Somehow I think little torture is cool every now then lool. Nothing serious that would hurt Miskiinad like you, but a little something that brings out the Calaacal you know hehehe. Haye, waa sugaayaa qoraalkaas ee show me the details and how advanced you are in torturing The Guy were you to find him in a weaker position

Femme Fatale, Nice Humour. I also miss the stories you used to write about your guy aka the player, whatever happened to him? I hate to think he is Reformed now lol.

Ciyaal Xamar lol. Kaalaya, Ciyaalnimada malaga weynaado miyaa? Sheherazade. I pick "Boondheere" for you, One of the Oldest Xaafad, cosmopolitan and Original Reer Xamar(as in born and bred) people lived there. I miss everything about it. As for the dialect, we can work on that upon signing a private contract with me Hey BOB. Wow SAXIB, let us see, I am not from that region, however, I know about it better than those who were born there. Waxaan soo marey lug ama raacey dhallinyaro qaraabada ah oo dano ka lahaa meelaha baadiyaha ah ee lakala dhaho, Golja, Tarri, ArboQarso, Magar, Hadu, LaanFiin, Hayuujeeraa to name a few of the places I went for adventure and volunteering for company. Baadiyahaan ku diinsanaa marka wixii socdaba waxaan dhihi jirey aan idin raaco inaan soo arkaan rabaa meesha. lol. Saro iney ka dhisan yihiin aan u maleen jirey intaan tagin lol. Reer magaalka markuu Baadiyo joogo waa Reer Baadiye kale. Markey i dhahaan malugeyn kartid magaalaa ka imaatey, Waa baryootami jirey. I loved the land I saw. In few months, Meelo badan aan tagay. Xoriyada cusub ee qaxii aan ka heley waa ka faa'iideystey. Markii hore Ciyaal maamo guriga aan loo oggoleen inuu ka baxo aan ahaa. I think I beat you to that region in terms of Knowledge. May be Not. Xataa Taabta waan arkey, Qooqaani, Afmadow etc