""Most recently, the octogenarian ‘troglodyte’ president whose definition of ‘dawlad and shacab’ is pre-historic, to say the least, is busy sabotaging any possibility of a peace deal. Surrounded by a retinue of clan-maniacs and former warlords, he knows a peaceful Somalia will hold him responsible for the unspeakable crimes committed against its people. "" All the more reason to never give warlord Yusuf a chance to linger longer than the months left for him. He needs to go period and be rcorded in history for what he was and is. Thanks for the article.

Dayniile is less vitriol about A/Y compared to some other clan oriented websites I visited. They have a mixed reporting and are never decisive on anything. They are like our friend Juje here Where is the brother anyway? Isseh I hope I don't lose you like I lost Xiin saxib to the fake peaceniks

Emperor People got massacred for their open mind about A/Y. You would demand any warlord's head by now if the violent touched fellow clansmen you care about so much saxib. I am not surprised you are still asking others to have an open mind about A/Y, after all, you were cheering for the Xabashis when they slaughtered grandmothers of Muqdisho. A/Y yaa kuu daran kursigiisa. Meesha haku aakhiro segin saxib Waxaan is dhahaayay Emperor took a break because he wanted to repent from Xabashi cheerleading, wali waad soo indhacadahay. Ilaahay hakuu gargaaro saxib.

^ He expressed same sentiments before saxib. This is nothing new or unusual for him but the timing bodes ill for the alleged peace efforts when Nur Cade wants to sit with others. On the 4th of this month or a date closer to that A/Y attended a ceremony somewhere in Muqdisho. In that meeting, Qaybdiid is said to order journalists to shut down their recording equipments after A/Y started ranting about Sheekh Uways and uways's clan. Odagaan caqli meesha kuma haayo. One of the main reason I do not expect peace efforts to succeed is because of A/Y. The Xabashis and warlords who serve them are the two main sources of instability in Somalia. Wakhtigaa ku lumaayo dadkiina waa ku halaagsamay.

According to one Muqdisho online sources I just read, A/Y briefly talked to Some clan Elders in Muqdisho after he asked Maxamed Dheere to invite them on his behalf. These elders are related to Nur Cade and Maxamed Dheere. Here is the lecture he gave in brief according to the sources: A- Nur Cade has gone nuts. B- Maxamed Dheere's clan Own Muqdisho, with only few others coming in distant second, Therefore, C- Dheere's Clan should fight other clan members from Mudug who are using religion and Islanimo to oust the locals. D- A/Y will provide the Money and the Weaponry necessary for that war. Some were shocked by the warlord's comments others clapped in agreement. MADAXWEYNE CABDULLAHI YUUSUF AXMED OO KULAN ALBAABADU U XIRANYIHIIN LA GALAY ODAYAASHA BEESHA MAXAMED DHEERE

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Xoogsade , brother don’t give the impression that you are arguing against something that’s eternally good; efforts toward peaceful settlement. Today reconciliation between Somalis is the overriding maslaxa for the ummah: a one for whose attainment these leaders are permitted to be creative (and perhaps lie) in their public statements and positions. Instead pray for the success of these efforts. I am realistic by not being hopeful at this point. I don't expect these efforts to succeed considering who is involved saxib. If I could find one single positive step towards peace the TFG took in the past three years, One single promise of peace they kept, I would have paused a second and thought something meaningful can come out of these latest efforts. I do pray for peace but do not have faith in the current TFG. If I am proven wrong, I will admitt to my wrongs in dismissing the peace efforts and will embrace the new realities as they come, before that, I don't expect my views to change. I can't entertain false hopes. People of Muqdisho are being pushed to carry guns and fight for their honour and dignity. Latest news was that the TFG troops make a habit of robbing people day time and raping women at night. Nabada maxaaba lagu gaaraa runtii? people are being forced to flee or stay and fight the injustice. Latest from Waabari Muqdisho Dadka deegaanka oo la hadlay saxaafadda ayaa waxay sheegeen in ciidamadu ay si burcadnimo ah wadooyinka ugu baartaan dadka shacabka ah iyo ardayda ayaga oo sheegay in ay hadda ciidamadu bilaabeen in ay xilliga habeenkii ah guryaha u soo dhacaan ayna gabdhaha kala baxaan guryaha kadibna ay fara xumeeyaan.

^ Meesha muran iyo qas ma jiro. Heshiis niman gacan ku dhiiglayaal ah oo Amxaaro soo xulatay ay oggolaadaan waa habeenkii xalay oo tagay. We have been there before. Ninkii doono ha is maaweeliyo laakiin runta waa caddahay, waxaan dagaal ahayn Amxaaro dhulka kama saareyso. Qofkii mar marsiinyo haysto isagay jirtaa. As long these Xabashis are in the country, Nabad galyo ma imaneyso. I agree with the following poet's sentiment and consider the TFG iyo inta u dagaalanta af iyo addinba inay yihiin sida uu ku sifeeyay gabayaaga hoose: Geyigeena oo xora annagoo dowladnimo gaarnay Gablamaha cadaawuhu watee gadaya Soomaali Ee gibilka inooga eg haddana garan afkii hooyo Alle gowrac gacal maahoo waa Gaalo ubadkeede Allow guusha haw dhiibin waa garac Tigreeyaade Gudubtadu ha sheegtee nimanka geliya taariikhda. Amxaaro ha baxdo si loola xisaabtamo warlodska ama waqtigooda u dhamaystaan haddii kale looga takhaluso, nothing less will stop the war.

Bishy, maal mahaan waa noogu jirtaa abaay We are kicking some behind LOL.

Originally posted by Dabshid: The Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah seems to ignorant for Somalis' issues, if only somalis problems were easy as he assumes, btw, He keeps repeating SOmalilanders told me this, that,how st%pid! Issa, go and get that girl mate. But he is sincere man who wants to see Somalia's problems be solved. His campaign to draw attention to our plight and political issues will serve us better. May be you should look up his e-mail and send him 101 somali disputes Someone should tell him Somaliland authorities lied to him when they informed him about border demarcations. Been bay ku dhureen odaga.

^lol, tuugadii la hel maal mahaan.

A job well done. I think the demonstrations should be more often. Letters of complaint which highlight the genocide and what is happening should be written to the UN and to other Organizations as well. Nin lagu seexdoow ha seexantii waaye. The diaspora somali communities, at least those who care, can do much for the voiceless.

Most likely these Xabashi troops will come to town empty of Insurgent troops. The new strategy employed by the insurgents is paying off handsomely. Dabageed orodkaa ka dhammaaday

Inta meelaha Heshiis aan waxba ka soconaynin laga wad wado, No rest for Mele's troops and TFG clan militia who abduct and torture most important members of our society, macalin dugsi iyo dadka sunada ka muuqato.

15 askari oo xalay ka baxsaday ciidamada gumaysiga Itoobiya oo ku sugan magaalada Buulo Mareer Ciidamo gaaraya ilaa 15 askari oo ka mid ah ciidamo dhawaan lagu soo tababaray dalka Itoobiya oo loo yaqaano (Copy) isla markaana weheliyay ciidamadii gumaysiga Itoobiya oo shalay gaaray magaalada Buulo Mareer ee Gobolka Sh.Hoose ayaa xalay ka baxsaday fariisinkii ciidanka gumaysiga. Ragaan ayaa la baxsaday hub gaaraya ilaa 6 Qori oo 2 kamid ah ay aheeyeen PKM waxaana la sheegay in ay isu dhiibeen qaybo ka mid ah Mujaahidiinta Soomaaliyeed ee dagalka jihaadka ah kula jira gumaysiga. Ciidamada gumaysiga Itoobiya ayaa saaka ku soo waa bariistay degmada ayaga oo wax garadka degmada Buulo Mareer ka dalbaday in ay u soo gacan galiyaan ragii ka baxsaday iyo hubkii ay wateen hadii kale ay magaalada guri guri u baari doonaan. Dadka ku dhaqan degmada Buulo Mareer ayaa walaac ka muujiyay hanjabaada ka soo yeertay ciidamada gumaysiga Itoobiya oo ku wajahan in ay gabi ahaan magaalada baarayaan. Maaha markii ugu horeeysay ee ay ciidamada dhawaaan lagu soo taba baray gudaha Itoobiya oo laa yaqaano (copy Itoobiyaan) hub la baxsadaan waxaase jirtay tiro badan oo ka mid ah ragaas oo hubkooda ula soo galay Mujaahidiinta isla markaana sheegay in ay ka waantoobeen la shaqaynta gumaysiga ayaga oo sheegay in ay dhibaatooyin farabadan la kulmeen intii ay la shaqaynayeen Itoobiyaanka taas oo ay ka mid tahay in gabaad looga dhigo xeryaha ay degan yihiin ciidamada gumaysigu iyo in ay ka hor maraan koloyada itoobiyaanka si haddii miino u qaraxdo ay ayaga u haleesho. http://www.beerdhiga.org/index.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=3039

The supposed hunters of the ICU became the hunted. Islamists chase away Somali troops, seize town Mogadishu - Islamist insurgents overpowered Somali government troops Monday, seizing a town, killing at least seven soldiers and forcing the rest to flee barefoot, witnesses said. The troops were scouring for radical remnants of an Islamist group known as the Union of Islamic Courts (UIC) that once ruled much of the country when they were attacked near Bulo Burte, some 200 kilometres from the capital Mogadishu. "(The Islamists) are in Bulo Burte and have full control of the district. They were chanting 'God is great' when they entered the village as all the government forces fled," said Burashiil Ibrahim, a local elder who said he saw seven uniformed bodies after the battle. After the brief clash, the Islamists captured government vehicles known as technicals - pick-up trucks with machine guns - leaving government troops escaping on foot. "We detonated one battle wagon and captured five others including the governor's comfortable car. We attacked their hotel and ran away with their shoes," said Abdi Rihin Isse Adow, spokesman for the UIC's military wing. The UIC, mainly fronted by a hardline faction known as the al- Shabab, which the US recently added to its list of known terror groups, has in the last few months been stepping up attacks on the weak transitional government. An Iraq-style insurgency was sparked in Mogadishu when the Ethiopian-backed government chased out the UIC in January 2007, and has since left thousands killed and uprooted 600,000 from their homes. Last week, Islamist fighters briefly seized the key town of Jowhar, 90 kilometres north of Mogadishu, seizing government vehicles and freeing some prisoners. Anarchic Somalia has not had effective central rule since the 1991 ouster of dictator Mohammed Siad Barre and has since spiralled into ceaseless violence and chaos. Link

I watched the episode as it aired on C-SPAN, great debate. The girl raised legitimate concerns, a much needed point of view the powers that be ignore. We should throw our strength behind Maakhir State and be a voice for their search to assert their freedom from other clan fiefdoms intent on taking advantage of the south's endless confusion. MaakhirLand all the way

It would be another mistake to pour money and invest in a useless, unwanted, warlord infested dying TFG. At least, western donors should fire Warlord A/Y, Warlord Maxamed Dheere, Warlord Qaybdiid and bring real changes they know are necessary for the survival of their pet project in Somalia. Short of that people won't put up with these warlords and the result will be the same, violence, displacement, hunger, pain and endless suffering.

Originally posted by Koora-Tuunshe: Xoogsade, your hatred for the president clouds your fair judgement of the situation. Hopefully, it will fade away as the TFG makes more progress towards peace and reconciliation. If you mean clan hatred, you are wrong saxib. I am on record in SOL supporting the objective for which the TFG was created. I am also on record advising others to give A/Y the benefit of the doubt on the eve of his selection out of the pool of warlords. I opposed him when he announced his request for Ethiopian troops to come to Muqdisho. I knew this would be the result. He undermined himself and the future of the country by mistrusting the people and at the same time heavily invest in controversial troop deployment everybody knew would be trouble. People thought he was going to work for the public good by leaving his past and abandoning the clan elder mentality. He made promises to repent from 30 year warfare and subterfuge underiming the somali state. He failed in all expectations. Under his watch, million people if not more were displaced while thousands died with good number of them still living under the shades on the verge of starvation. He oversees total failure. So, again, going beyond narrow clan support and looking into future, can you state objectively why you think a man with such failures on his record should be left in position? Why hold the future of Somalia hostage for a failed man? You claim you are for reconciliation but ignore the basic fundamentals of reconciliation which is to remove all obstacles to peace, obstacles like A/Y himself who came out against every initiative of peace. Somalia is more important than A/Y and I think replacement can be found from his clansmen if we keep the 4.5 clan bs foisted upon somalis by the warlords in place. I am for appeasing A/Y's clansmen who would be offended if the man was removed. That could work. Let us not give the man a license to kill and hold us hostage. You are talented saxib, so write your ideas setting clan sentiments aside A/Y adeerkay waaye therefore he must rule dowladnimo laguma helaayo, you need to be flexible. We need changes where necessary, Geeddi was booted out for incompetence, opposing the peace and robbing allegedly the donated money, so can A/Y be shown the door for equally sinful charges? this could move things and has the potential to prevent prolonged violence no one wants to see continue. What do you think?

Jimcaale The poem was quoted in a website from the book "Hadimadii Gumeysiga iyo Halgankii Ummadda" Here is the somali website and the excerpt of the book. A very good read. It ends with Abshir Bacadle's poem of this: Duqii hore maxaa loo eryoon kula dagaaleynay, Dalkii iyo dadkiyo diintii buu dumiyey sow maaha, Digtatoornimuu keenay iyo dulun cad sow maaha, Ka daroo dibi dhal-baan aragnay iyo furuqyo daacuune, Nin walbow walaalkaa dad qala haw durbaan tumine, Yaan laydin dabargoyn qabiil dowlad noqon waaye, Qolana qolo ma dabargoyn kadhee weysku daganteene, Ayax bililiqaa nagu dagoo diirtay beledkeenna, Duqii doona ducana ugu dara waadna dilateene, Allow yaa inoo diga markaan duqa ku yaacaynay, Allow yaa inoo diga markaan deriska riixayney, Allow yaa inoo diga markaan dacarta beerayney, Allow yaa dabaadiga hariyo degelka noo caynsha, Allow yaa dabkoo idil ku rida dowlad gacanteeda, Allow yaa dagaallada ahliga dib uga waantooba, Allow yaa mar kale daawada deris walaaloobay, Allow yaa dalkoo nabadgelyaa diinta ku hoggaansha, Allow yaa dersiga muqadiska ah dib ugu soo laabta, Allow yaa difaaciyo amniga dhidibadu u duuga, Allow yaa daroogiyo qabiil inaga daaweeya, Allow yaa dariis ciiidan iyo dowlad mar u jeeda, Dib wax ugama sheegeen askeri daa’in abidkeeye, ***** Ninkaanse dhiigga daadanaya damaaqin yeelkiisa, Rabbi hibadu ugu deeqay bay dacar ku beereene, Gubey kaga daydeen oo dulmi bay derejo moodeene, Afartaa qabiil nimuu dishoo dudaya haw sheegin, Danta guud nimaan eeginoo doqona haw sheegin, Dalka nimaan u dhalan kuma duxdee duulow haw sheegin, Dad-qal dib-u-heshiisinta neceb dulucda haw sheegin, Nimaan diin lahayn iyo dabley dirirsan haw sheegin, Murti nimaan da’deed gaarin iyo ducufo haw sheegin, Afar-jeeble deyn hore cunoo dabacsan haw sheegin, Digtatoor dan gooniya watoo durugsan haw sheegin, Dambarkeeda nimaan maali jirin dowlad haw sheegin…

Koora-Tuunshe, Favourable conditions on the ground will force extremist ideas to take a back seat when/if the Xabashis withdraw. Eliminate the excuse and there is no potency in opposition. A/Y goes, Maxamed Dheere goes, TFG remains in place by name, Nur Cadde meets opposition, Al-shabab included and invited, there will be improvements and some good changes. The reason A/Y must go is because he is Anti-peace and doesn't qualify or act as a statesman. As he always has been, he will never make a compromise and thinks in terms of clan x vs clan y, he belongs to the tea houses iyo biibitooyinka where old men like him discuss qabiil and play cards. A/Y is very unsophisticated jaahil dhaga xiran. Maxamed Dheere is a criminal who turned the TFG into a clan organization. Like Gheedi, he needs to step down. Nuur Cade alone should be left to keep the TFG alive. Al-shabab will not go against the wishes of the majority when Ethiopia is not involved and warlords are forced to step down. What do you think saxib?

Btw, Jimcaale, this poet I quote agrees with you 100%. He explains what happened and blames Somalis in general for their complacency. He details in the poem what made matters get to where they are today and somalis should solve their problems. Cutubka 21aad: Doorashadii Cabdullaahi Yuusuf: Daliil runah daruus aan ka qoray xaalka degi-waayey Dad walaala duul wada dhashoo laysu dacareeyey, Soomaalidaan kala didee qoloba daan aaday, Dembiyada dhacaayee ka badan miraha deegaanka, Dawadaan bukootee dabiib looga dhigay maarta, Dembigaan ninkii geystay baan idin dareensiine, ***** Nin wax diley haddii aan la dilin ee la iska sii daayo, Waa inuu dilkiisii sii wataa saa la dili-waaye, Degdeg weerar waa inuu galaa saa la dili-waaye, Nin doorkoo dhan waa inuu dilaa saa la dili-waaye, Diin Islaamle waa inuu dilaa saa la dili-waaye, Dagaal diide waa inuu dilaa saa la dili-waaye, Malcaamadaha waa inuu dunshaa saan la dili-waaye, Masaakiinta waa inuu dubaa saa la dili-waaye, Dal iyo maalba waa inuu gubaa saa la dili-waaye, Dadkuna waa inuu dabargo’aa saa la dili-waaye, Dilkuna waa inuu sii bataa saa la dli-waaye, Dembigu waa inuu sii kordhaa saa la dili-waaye, ***** Dilaa sare waa inuu usii dallaco saa la dili-waaye, Digtatoori waa inuu noqdaa saa la dili-waaye, Dastuur gaar ah waa inuu degsado saa la dili-waaye, Boqortooyo waa inuu dalbado saa la dili-waaye, Duruus beenah waa aqriyo saa la dili-waaye, Wejigiisa waa inaan la deyin saa la dili-waaye, Waa inaad madaxa hoos uga dedaan saa la dili-waaye, Soo dareera goortuu yiraah saa la dili-waaye, Waa inaydin deri yeelataan saa la dili-waaye, Waa inaad dhamaan daba-gashaan saa la dili-waaye, Dadnimo waa inaad kala tagtaan saa la dili-waaye, Dullina waa inaad soo baxdaan saa la dili-waaye, Dumarkuna durbaannada u tumo saa la dili-waaye, Ragguna waa inuu sacab ku daro saa la dili-waaye, Duca-qabe waa inaad dhahdaan saa la dili-waaye, Dirqina waa inay idinku tahay saa la dili-waaye, Wuxuu doono waa inuu falaa saa la dili-waaye, Qarannimo waa inay duntaa saa la dili-waaye, Dalka iyo dadkuba waa inay baaba’aan saa la dili-waaye, Waa inuu Xamarna Daafeed u raro saa la dili-waaye, Hargeysana badweynta u diro saa la dili-waaye, Kismaayona webiga uu dhex daro saa la dili-waaye, ***** Ummad yahay daguugani ee qalbigu daxalaystay, Diintiyo kitaabkii Allaad daba-maryeyseene, Waxaad deyrka ugu oodan tahay daalim iyo qaa’in, Deylaaba idin dhaanta iyo sacii diilinta lahaaye, Iyagaaba darkii garanaya iyo doono ubadkiiye, Daab iyo masaar waxaad tihiin duulna garanwaaye, ***** Dilaa sare haddii u dalcay oo la dili-waayey, Dad wixii ka haray waa kuwaan haatan uu diliye, Dad waa dilis dagaal waw kalahis dulucdu waa weerar. Dadaal iyo midnimo wayska deyn sharafi waa daadin. Dakaniyo colaad waa hirgelin nabadi waa duugis. Diif iyo xanuun iyo darxumo dabargo’ waa raadin. Daacad iyo wanaag waa ka durug belona waa doonis. ***** Haddii kale dantiinii gartoo daalimkaas dila, Dabadeed midnimadii dalkiyo daawo wada qaata, Dar-Illaah u soo jeesta oo diinta wada raaca, Dariiqii Rasuulkii maroo diinta wada raaca, Dawiyo nabad wada raadiyoo diinta wada raaca Waxaa tiriyey: Maxamed Warsame Tabantaabo

^ I do agree with you bro. Somalia's problem is with somalis. That is why Ethiopia's involvement ic counter productive. When issues are left to somalis, and there is a force of positive change people can rally behind, the results can be almost perfect. We saw that with the ICU and how in short period they pacified violent Muqdisho by eliminating the source of evil in that city. Outsiders can never bring an end to our internal conflicts. We need to fix that.

Amxaaro jabaa ku dhacay maal mahaan. Xeradii Maslax Siyad Barre iyo meelo badan way isaga carareen muddo markay go'doon ku noqdeen oo jidkana loo galay gurmad cunto iyo raashin u keeni jiray. Dhowr meelood ay hadda isugu tageen mana kasoo bixi karaan sidii hore. Gurmadkii gobolka bay uga imaan jirayna jidkaa loo galaa wax si dhuumasho ah ku yimaado muqdisho ma ahane. Fari kama Qodna laakiin hadday sidaan kusii socoto, Gurmad caalami ahna u imaan waayo, TFG warlords iyo Xabashida mar dhow waa loo yaabaa.

War nin yohow maal mahaan Amxaaradii Muqdisho hooyooyinkooda waa la gablamiyay. Damn! I can't keep up with the news xataa, mar walba weerar hor leh yaa lagu qaadaa doofaarta iyaga iyo ayda kobaha u qaado.

Bro Jimcaale, The prank call is what it was, a prank and to rile up a loser, getting him to talk, you can guess the caller is no older than 20 or somewhere there. The caller wasn't wise either in saying some of the things he said to Maxamed Dheere. A smart person doesn't inform on collaborators who work in his favour and this kid wasn't wise in telling maxamed dheere some of his men actually work with the insurgents. I liked the clip because it was funny to listen to maxamed dheere's childish rants. I didn't expect a grown man would insult someone like that regardless. With regards to taking sides, as long as two somali clans aren't fighting, I take sides. I am offended by the Xabashis and the impunity with which they have killed thousands of somalis, their invasion of my soil, and the devisive policies they apply to keep somalis in their current state. I don't like the warlords either, so I am forced to take sides here saxib It is an obligation not a choice I have. Lastly, the question of who is better for Somalia has been answered by the events we saw transpire in the last 17 years ----> Warlords can not be rulers for somalis and are a threat to our unity and sovereignity. The TFG being an organization to appease the warlords and to get them to rule the country transitionally before somalis could elect leadership to their own liking, it has failed miserably. Warlord A/Y proved us right again, warlord maxamed dheere proved us right again, so is qaybdid, we should never let men like them and their background get a chance to rule. EDITED.