Originally posted by Nur : Xoogsade, You write: Curling, I am practically unable to handle more than one Speaking from a purely economics point of view, does the law of supply and demand has any effect in your specific case? Just a light hearted thought, ( I Hate Smileys, but I am smiling) Nur Brother Nur, It is not/will not be about economics for me. My inability of polygamy is rooted mainly in the superstitious mind I grew up with. Since I can't say to two women at the same time "I love you", and wouldn't stop feeling guilty about that, I thought Polygamy is not something I can do. Reading too much romantic books sure did corrupt my mind It made me a coward and left me with one woman-man mentality that won't go away.. I do admire guys who fully take on the role and seem to manage their homes very well. One such men is my cousin whom I had lived with in Nairobi and who married two wives, one in nairobi and went back to Xamar and married another. I always admired his coolness about the whole issue. For him, as I observed, It was like "Okey, there goes money, unquestionable love while I am here, and anything you need, now, reerkaaga dhaqo and shut the hell up" lool. Damn! That is indeed admirable. Gabdhahaan reer yurubka ah yaa warkooda ku jiro when others back home are willing to accept minyaro and minweeen roles If those who do marry more than one can avoid being abusive and treat their women equally and decently, with good providence, They have my blessings.

My question is, how does Xamaraawi by claim like Xiin-Galti learns to speak somali that good? My assumption is either he left Muqdisho in 1990 and went to Gaalkacyo as an impressionable kid, then forgot the banadiri accent and learned the kind he speaks now, or waa oday gaboobey. I am really curious Xiinfaniin. Saaxib, Why don't you leave these kind of arguments to the real Reer Kismayo fellas? Just because someone who shares the tribe with you lived there for three grandfathers doesn't give you any particular entitlement to it. PS: Turning Kismayo into tribal enclave is the workings of an imported mentality from Mudug among other things. Hands off saaxib.

It is telling how the usual suspects are justifying the vile of this wax-matare. The loser should have been back home and joined those who sacrifice much for their communities when they could have made tons of money in the West. Not only is he a tribalist but he has the victim mentality as well.

Libaax, Waa iga qoslisay bro. Shalay markaan arkay qoraalka aan is iri right away this obsession with exposure seems fishy to me. Hadda markaan arkay adigoo leh waxaan shalay ku fakaraayay waa qosley. Waa noo dhammaatay saxib. I am trully disappointed in how I have changed from reer xaafad to reer hebel mentality. Shaqa adagaa meeshaan ka heysaan maadaama soomalida aa ku kala dhex jirtaan meesha wax ku soo qorto oo aniga aan ka koow ahay nooh

Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: Soomaali baan aqaanoo hadaad aragtaan labo is caydhsanaysa, inta badan waxbaa jira. LOL, You have proven your somalinimo yourself thinking that way lol.

Curling Waterfall : X , you'll need to have stamina and strength if u want more than one woman and skinny faaraxs sadly lack both, xabad sooda or no xabad sooda Curling, I am practically unable to handle more than one. I don't have the character. However, I like to torment sisters like Rahima who are apparently eager to keep their husbands to themselves even though they know resistance is futile if their husbands want another, qualified or not. The only option will be a divorce and that is just another tragedy. I would suggest to the girls to keep their husbands busy all the time. They should be deligent in refusing him the chance to let his eyes wander without her being obsessed. With the exception of young somalis who grew up in the west, Our society for the most part is culturally dry and insensitive to romanticism. They look down on softness towards each other. Both husband and wife like to act tough. That needs to change. There is no reason on earth why a wife can't call her husband "Darling" or like-words and the same goes for the man. "War muxuu i mooday aniga" doesn't work anymore. Btw, who said Xabad Sowdo provides the needed boast? lol, that is funny. I didn't know we had natural Viagra at Somali owned shops. One doesn't have to be big or fat to show strength and stamina

You are right, I am the one who misunderstood you then. Honestly, I should be on bed sleeping to make up for the lost sleep instead. Take care now. I wanted a big fat paycheck and decided to work the holiday when the rest took off and my brain is mixing the signals for lack of enough sleep. Bye Now.

I am impressed bro Sky that I am on your good-guys list this morning hahahahaha. Well, there is hope finally and I get to open my big mouth about the so called government without upsetting hardcore TFG supporters.

Do we misunderstand each other somehow? You are admittedly a muslim and I don't see how I would greet you with a greeting other than the islamic one. No emphasis are important on your faith but only an understanding of the greeting. Also, What is wrong with "Salamullahi Calayka" as a greeting? Did you miss the name of "God" after the salaam despite in its singular form when I used it? May be One of us needs to reconsider his understanding of the greetings PS: "I haven't heard" is not a disproof of some religious doctrine. Something you have never heard can still be valid islamically. Ma jiraa qof islaamka soo koobey xagga cilmiga? I will do some research online to see if variant ways of greetings are acceptable and you do the same.

Originally posted by Femme Fatale: But honestly what is a xaliimo to do if shes fantasizing about her next door neighbour when shes making love to her husband? Too bad she cant have both! Obviously, the loser isn't doing a good job in satisfying her in every sense of the word if she is thinking about her neighbour in her most intimate time with her husband. How embarrassing of a scenario. She should be nice enough though, to let him know how dire the situation is by talking about the laundry or the paintings on the wall while she is at it. May be he might realize inuu meesha isaga cararo.

Rahima, You have the leverage in premarital discussions normally and you should expect a "yes" answer to your demands now. The concessions you get, however, will fade away with time if your husband feels the contract is not binding and he needs another wife for whatever reason , remember, he will tell you that he can't forbid himself what is legal, or his mother/father encouraged him to take another one and they will bless him for that. Also, Your passionate opposition to sharing him with another woman might wither after you get couple of kids. If he doesn't bother you few nights, it might be a relief for you by then, contrary to your feelings now. There are no guarantees in these issues and it is wise to never set up yourself for disappointment. Anything can happen. As for Ajanib muslim men who would never double up, I guess that itself is not full-proof. Wait till these Ajanib men become aware of the chances they have in doubling up that they wasted or wasting. Sweet deal lol. just kidding, but seriously sis, polygamy is not a big issue considering today's status where women are numerous and men have too many options. If one woman resists, there are others accepting the deal. You mentioned women with kids don't need a man. No one can do without partner be they men or women, so women with kids have the biological need, the psychological need, and other needs too. They will always need some company. If they can get a choice to their taste, good luck to each and everyone of them, if not, what they get is the best life had to offer and they should and will happily take it. PS: I will give guarantees to Seven of Nine if she is Pretty although I prefer if she leaves matters into my own hands without seeking a "yes" answer to no-polygamy request PSS: I admire my parents who to this day love each other and behave as if they are newly married couple after so many years.

The contract was signed by one group, so why does the article say at the end that the contract should be brought in front of "Golayaasha"? I don't foresee the Jowhar group sending a copy of the contract to their nemesis. And then who guarantees the Jowhar villains will not prevent Goods to Muqdisho under the guise of government controll? They can simply give to the mercenaries a checklist of towns where goods can be released to while others are blacklisted. They can even deny later when they are caught in the bigotry. Interestingly, NB mentioned if such moves on the part of Jowhar group will bring others to their fold. I think he forgets that the warlords have businesses that won't be impacted in anyway by any policy enforced to punish them. It is the average business person who loses, and consequently, the people who relied on their services.

Well saxib, I thought gaalada in lagu dhaho "waca-leykum" oo kaliya hadday ku salaamaan. So technically, salamullahi calayka I thought stood perfect as a greeting to a muslim. I stand corrected again though. Castro is a full blooded Somali according to his posts.

Duufaan, Recognition comes from somalis like me is as clear as daylight unless you discount me as a somali. I have an outsized stake in this matter and not only shall I critique and vehemently oppose anything unwarranted from these henchmen in Jowhar, but will be at the forefront in ensuring their bigotry doesn't affect me or those whom I care about if I can. This is not to say their nemesis in Muqdisho are better. Our basic demand is their conflict to not spill-over to us in any way, shape or form be it political or otherwise. I don't think that is too much to ask. Besides, If Banaadir is hostage to some, Her liberators who deserve the unquestionable support of the conscionable members of our soceity are yet to come. You conveniently forget this so called government is the product of warlords and thuggish dictatorial men who were forced to meet together to bring an end to the devisions. If some men among them think they are better than others, and consequently want to use a position of power they didn't deserve to begin with to harm people who shouldn't be harmed, and they continue their selfish personal tag of wars with each other, we are not going to let such men cause any more harm than already happened. We prefer if they take their wars to a private place far removed from the rest of us. If that isn't gonna happen, it is self-preservation by any means.

Originally posted by Duufaan: I agree, the detail is not clear. I do not think the foreign countries will pay the entire bill. Much of the money will come from selling fishing rights. The government will get few millions each year from the same company. It is just remind us Putland Hart Group. However it is a good political move, building a foundation and establishing a base for international support and recognition. "We are the government of Somalia and you can do business with us". More lucrative oil contracts will be next, but that must to go china or Indonesia, because they are willing to do business Somalia now with security situation Recognition comes from somalis and this government lacks that. No amount of foreign mercenaries or foreign recognition will get you the support of those who don't want to deal with you. And if there be support for the junta in Jowhar, how will they enforce their will on others? I don't see any means for them to go beyond that small town run by Warlord dheere. Hala iska riyoodo while the rest is "business" as usual.

Kashanre, Out of curiousity, what is the meaning of your username? If you are brother Horn, salaamullahi Calayka as well. You have the same quote at the bottom as he did and I wasn't around lately to be aware of the name change. Hope I don't sound too intrusive. I think Castro has some valid points. If the strength of one's faith depended on one's location, it would have shown in our country. The same vice exists albeit under the radar. All the bad things are suppressed in islamic countries for fear of aleination but they do exist. I must add not to the extent and support vile exists in the west, nonetheless it does exist. As for hunger, most somalis are too poor lately and rely on the support of their relatives. Those who don't have relatives have difficult times back home. Somalia today is about haves and havenots and the havenots are the majority. The contrast is evident in every Somali town you visit as the story has it. Dadbaa qashinka cuno. Faqriga iyo gaajada waa ciqaab la muteysto.

Rahima, would you object to your husband's desire of having a second after you if he is qualified? You don't have much of a choice do you? Besides, the practice of some women of late has been to divorce their first husband and end up marrying a married man for some strange reason. Makes you wonder why divorce or destroy the first marriage if she was going to settle for a married man anyway. In some instances though, I think polygamy is necessary in these countries when you have so many young divorced women with kids. They have to have a man in their life and if the only way they can do it is to marry a married man, makes sense.

The small airports have better securities and people use them to bring in the necessary goods. Some of the media focused on Qat and the Qat dealers who use the airports, however, parallel to these qat dealers, are the rest of business people who utilize them as well. The natural sea ports are also used to bring in the goods to the city and export them(the imported goods) to other parts of the country and outside the country as well but they(these sea ports alone) are not enough. For these vital financial reasons, A/Y and his government have no right to close them. The warlords make money the same way the thugs in Jowhar make money by representing the good somali name which they sell. When they can present an alternative to these warlords, when they live among the communities and they can prove they work for them, that is when their political steps will be viewed as worthy of anything. With the political stalemate, people shouldn't be inconvinienced in the tag of war between individuals.

Mansa and Wiil-duco, Maadaama dowladda jowhar deggan u hadasho Somalida inteeda kale in international circles, their views count more than yours. Last time the so called PM spoke, he sounded affirmative on recognition, so why fight a losing battle? The only way to save Somalia from further disaster is to undermine these men. If that is not acceptable, waxba yaan la is daalin. Dowladdaan dowlad la'aanaa ka fiican.

Hambalyo

Originally posted by Castro: I'd say we have the old wife cook and clean for the new couple during their extended honeymoon. This way, they get to eat and she gets to lose weight and compete with wife numero deux. What do you say? I say GREAT.

Wind.talker, You are lucky to retain your civilized views. You have my respect bro.

nuune, I had no idea there were still on-going problems with the mosque leadership after I left there in the late 1990s. Some of the charges brought against the previous Imam whom they wanted removed was about financial mismanagement, how much money he was earning as a salary and that he was a business man. The accusers seemed to belong to one tribe whereas the Imam hailed from another, and soon, before we knew it, it was a battle between two tribes lol. Sheekh Umal waaba one of the best wadaads I have seen goormaa isagana ladaba dhigtay? The two Sheekhs I was talking about were him and Sheekh Cukaashe. They were friends last time I knew and still hear they remain so.

lol, I wouldn't be surprised. I was in Nairobi in 1995 when consecutive lectures about "Jihad", prepared by two different Sheekhs who held different views about the commencement of Jihad was turned into tribal issue by the listeners. The lecture was about whether muslims should wait an "Imam" to start Jihad or appoint one/anyone among them anytime and can start "Jihad" that way. One sheekh was for waiting the return of "Imamah" while the other was "Any Imam, Any time, appointed by Muslims" will do. Anyway, some supporters of the Jihad without "Imam" started accusing the sheekh who differed their views to be indifferent to their plight. Actually, one guy stood up while the sheekh he didn't like his opinion was lecturing and interrupted the lecture, called the sheekh ignorant when compared to the other Sheekh whom he supported his opinion. Soomaalida qabiilka waa ilaahooda yar, Allaha weyna waa second. Qofkii ku dhaho warkaas ma jirana waa qof isaga dadka alla yaraha caabudo ka tirsan saaxib. There were some other incidents about the leadership of the mosque itself. They removed the previous Imam from the leadership and a neutral young sheekh was elected to lead the prayer. Runta ilaahaa dadka ku jecel, Soomaali haddaan nahay, laba ilaahaan leennahay.

Dadkaan tukanaayo aaway qoryahoodii dadka ay ku dhici lahaayeen? According to some folks, salaadda dadkdaan isku daalinaayaan aqbal ma ahan because they live in a robbed house and eat xaaraan. Haaruun The school of the blind is impressive. Is that where the girl who won the prize for the Quran recitation was schooled? Ilaahay mooyee Xamar cidna wax uma oga. If the residents could unite under one leadership, dowlad ku sheegtaan Jowharaan ugu duceen leheen iney iska deggaanaato. Wind.Talker Don't you feel lost in between two groups of people who both would treat you as an outsider? It is difficult to be just a SOMALI saxib. I think Bro CHE suffers the same experience. The mentality of many somalis is that of Bush moron Junior when he said: "You are either with us or against us".