On top of the social degradation and the spread of STDs and Aids, the life ammunition exercises with staged fake/mock assaults on an unseen enemy, naval gun fire, warplanes included, there will be future health problems for the residents in the area. These poor Africans are not educated about that. Fyr You are right, I was sarcastic. I might offend you if I speak of my mind as I will base my view on assumptions, which is the wrong thing to do anyway. But if you insist again, I can tell you why I mentioned the brittish troops coming closer to Somaliland and how that may have prompted your interest in the subject. Again, I am presumptuously speaking here. I don't know what was your interest in the subject. It is the downside to our politics.

Are you for real? War nin yohow waa kuu dhammaatay. May be some of the sane forumers can get some sense into your mind. How you can conclude such information from my post to Scientist is strange. What I wanted scientist or xiin to tell me was that i could buy a home or a farm anywhere without someone's permission provided I was following the right avenues. And who cares if you don't post anymore delusions? I am better off not dealing with you really as you make no sense creating falsehoods out of thin air. Adiga hakaa saarto adaa yaabban runtii

Make that(good day) permanent please as I am not interested in making your forum life more miserable than it already is. And I don't have to pretend I am better than you, You speak for yourself and people will judge who you are based on that. I don't have to make any efforts towards shining a light on you. I don't seek some gratification in the misery of the troubled. I respect whoever has higher morals than I do and I will try to emulate THEIR EXAMPLE instead of trying to be upset with them like you obviously are. Ma qofbaa kugu qasbay inaa wasaq walaaqato? You have to accept the verdict of others when it is right. Also, do a search on me too about Indhacadde as you do search on Rahima's comments. Your assignment for the coming days. I will comment on the rest when you finish contributing to your previous post. And one last thing about my connection to Waamo, Hooyaday baa reer waamo ah, walaalaheed xagga hooyadana waaba reer kismayo, and that is how I know the first hand information as our relatives used to come to us in Xamar escaping from the abuse and torture the clan from Gedo has meted on them before I myself came to the region in the 1990s. Anyways, better for you to not throw stones as you live in a glass house. PS: Sheeko aan meesha oollin adaa keenay markaad ka jawaabtay Farriin Scientist loo dhaafay oo sarcasm ahayd. You weren't expecting I would get back at ya on your unwarranted comments. Gardarrada waa laga fiican yahay and you will get what you are looking for if you didn't get enough already.

You must believe I have higher morals than you do have around here ever since you mentioned Hiiraale's Godly status which earned you a contempt of some sort, hence, your attempts to find something in your poor judgement that amounts to credibility issue for anyone who disagrees with your hypocrisy. Ilaahaa la caabudaa ee perhaps isaga ka raadi sharaf. I will answer the question when Xiin explains it.

Kashanre, I thought I was addressing the Scientist, adiga magacaada maa ku aragtay meesha? or you are upset I called Barre Hiiraale A warlord? I definitely don't see I mentioned in Kimsayo gurya badan la dhacay although it is true and many from gedo and mudug live in other people's homes as they owned no property in the town. I know not only one or two reer kismayo whose homes were taken by force but more than a dozen. Agreements with Hiiraale by Elders who chose peace and who are in a position of powerlessness doesn't purify the putrid. Had these elders had the chance to kick Hiiraale out and send him where he belongs to, they would no doubt about it. He is not God sent to them definitely as he is to you. They may deal with him on the basis of choosing the lesser of two evils. They also want to give the TFG a chance to succeed ee meesha ma jirto jacayl la isu qabo. You should thank A/Y for being the voice of moderation between Kismayo Elders and Hiiraale. It is all politics, so speak of it as scuh. As for the question Xiin asked me which you think somehow amounts to an enigma, let him explain what he meant by it so I can reply to it. That is all it will take. Haddaa rabtid in laga hadlo xaaraam iyo dhac, boob dad loo geysto, I can talk about some ilk's doings in Waamo iyo sida xoolahooda beebbaha ugu raacan jireen dhul dad islaameed leeyahay while the locals were tortured and accused of insurgency. Magaalooyinka Dhoobley, Afmadoow, iyo kuwa ka ag dhowoo dhan xaaraanaa lagu degganaa iyadoo dadka ka dhashay qori caaraddiis lagu maquuninaayo. The supposed Somali military was exclusively made of one clan and they used to sing tribal songs as they did their morning marches in these small towns. Even Kismayo residents lived in fear of the ruling ilk and their spies who spied on people and accused them of insurgency. All these displacements, torture, and robbery were taking place while we had a government. We don't have a new phenomenon but a continuation of the previous existing hegemony and thuggery. It is better for you to seek other sources of discussion. I have nothing but contempt for all that is wrong with Somalia which is tribalism and its purveyors.

Scientist, Kismaayaan rabaa guri inaan ka dhisto saxib, marka si xalaal uu iigu noqdo gurigaas degitaankiisa, markaan la heshiiyo qofka iska gadaayo, Waa idin soo maraa adiga iyo brother Xiinfaniin si aa iigu xalaaleysaan Qaraabadeyda xagga hooyadana waxayba i dhaheen nala maal geli beeray gateen iyaga mar hore, waan ka deyriyay as I am not a farmboy and want nothing to do with it in the future. Su'aasha waxaa waaye, Xalaal ma ii noqon leheed haddaan la galo howshaas beer falashada considering my Awoowe came from Gaalkacyo ages ago? Perhaps should I get your stamp of approval, qabiilkaan ka dhashay macno kuma fadhiyeen.

Does this mean the Brittish troops are getting closer to Somaliland?

Scientist, as far as Muqdisho is concerned, the islamic courts are the most likely group to usher in law and order. Their influence has been growing steady lately and they were establishing centers of justice wherever they can. They face setbacks now and then like when a war is waged on them by militia owned by some businessmen as was the case when they cleaned Number-Four of Beer Brewers and Drug traffickers. It is possible for them to eventually succeed and overtake the whole city. Characters like Atto and Yalaxoow lack the credibility they need to enforce any law as they are the law breakers themselves, so groups of people with stellar character are required to enforce the law and impose an order. This is where the courts come in and can succeed where others failed.

Yeniceri, Qofkaan fasax ka heysanin odayaasha degaanka Xaaraanuu meeshuu madax ka yahay ku heestaa, be it Indhacadde or Hiiraale although I think Hiiraale in laga qalleeyey for the greater good and in the interest of the disputing parties. Have you listened to the agreement audio files online inwhich Kismayo Elders were signing on to Barre Hiiraale's hegemony for the sake of peace? There is no warlord with a good cause really. They all su-ck. Ali dheere qudhiisa waa warlord but one who made Jowhar very peaceful and rules it with an iron fist. As you pointed out, he was called for the task. At least that gives him some distinction although I wonder what is his position in the TFG as he is in every damn picture(almost) A/Y is in. Waa laf dhuun gashay aw-dheere and wants his presence felt in everywhere in the town. Markaan arkabo waxaan soo xusuustaa ciyaalkii na banadi jiray balooniga haddaan ciyaarta wax laga siinin

Kashanre What is important is how Reer Kismayo Elders feel about Hiiraale's leadership of the town. So, I ask you saxib, are they happy with Hiiraale's Leadership? if it is yes, Ali dheere's view doesn't count does it?

Scientist, your worries are sublime as you stated them and there is hope should the TFG melts into the sand. Besides, I am not celebrating a dispute between Warlords, rather, I am in a deja vu state of mind. I would be worried if I had all my hopes placed on some of these characters and I feared of their failure. I hope you learn to mistrust these men when they fail to come closer to each other again since you spoke of efforts to mediate between them. People expected them to come back to the country from nairobi holding hands and singing Soomaaliyeey toosoo. I didn't forget the fact that these same men spent two whole years together to ace out who was going to be the top dog among them, and finally, when they chose one among them, they came back devided like they had been before they went to the meetings two years prior. Damiiraa loo baahan yahay, they are taking everyone for a fool and unfortunately, many are willing deafs who don't heed the call of reason. Anyhow, Inshallah the country will come out of the dark ages once again. It is a matter of time and possibly when things get too extreme, waxaa laga yaabaa maalin cad in lawada laayo nimankan dadka rigeestey. Waa loo xoogeysanaa hadda as they dispute. At least, in the nomansland, wa loo tabaabusheysanaayaa and their power eroded significantly and will erode as the supply of ignorant men dry up, they shall find themselves alone and unprotected by mad men. If we can be safe from the other mad men, it will be success in the meantime.

For their conservative outlook, these nuns deserve respect, so guys, hold on to some of the biased comments. JB. Must you ask for the belittlement of a muslim woman for you to convey your emancipation and fairminded to others?

Fathia, I am not sure if you trully believe in what you wrote, however, I do have some serious data which sheds light on the reality of many American women who suffer abuse of all kinds be them physical or psychological. To quote few facts so you can read it here before you visit the main website at the bottom, see these: - Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives, according to a 1998 Commonwealth Fund survey.4 By The Commonwealth Fund, Health Concerns Across a Woman’s Lifespan: 1998 Survey of Women’s Health, May 1999 - Nearly 25 percent of American women report being raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date at some time in their lifetime, according to the National Violence Against Women Survey, conducted from November 1995 to May 1996. By 5The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and The National Institute of Justice, Extent, Nature, and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence, July 2000. - Thirty percent of Americans say they know a woman who has been physically abused by her husband or boyfriend in the past year. By 6Lieberman Research Inc., Tracking Survey conducted for The Advertising Council and the Family Violence Prevention Fund, July – October 1996 - In the year 2001, more than half a million American women (588,490 women) were victims of nonfatal violence committed by an intimate partner. By Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime Data Brief, Intimate Partner Violence, 1993-2001, February 2003 Well Fathia, the list goes on and on and on. I let you visit the website to read the whole article done by a professional organization that deals with abused American women. My point is to highlight that the abuse is done by American men, so it follows logically that many of these men could be whites, a fact that contradicts your claim. Reality is, You are as important to MEN in these countries only as your body appeals to the them, nothing less nothing more. Lost is your role as a free human being who is supposed to own her future without others dictating how she should look, how she should dress and how she should behave. Sadly, the mentally enslaved girl wouldn't know that she is a victim untill it is too late. And by then, her beauty is gone, her morale is at the bottom, and her future is grim as she gives up hope on all men. So why don't you step back and evaluate your ideas before you become another statistics Young girl? Nin kugu diin ah wax kuu dhaammo ma heleysid if you can read Somali. PS: It is not wise to choose your man based on material wealth Only. You better aim higher than that and at a mind that is rich. That lasts longer and apt to satisfy you better in the long run. As they say, Money doesn't buy happiness. PSS: You are more likely to be the one sampled than sampling. How sad indeed

Is there a need to worry? The cracks had been there ever since the warlords devided themselves into jowhar and Xamar Camps. This just makes the crack wider a little with more cracks to come and Ali dheere seems to be beating some people at their game. Maxaa kaloo cusub? More important development is the news up there you quoted about the courts doing an excellent just work. It was only few weeks ago they went after a man who killed his neighbours for their money after the neighbours sold their home. He escaped to Balcad thinking his sub clan would protect him, but the courts who were united in their pursuit of justice, arrested him in Balcad and brought the thug back to the town. We wish them good luck and that their power grows exponentially so that they can eventually bring the warlords and the bigotted business men(like hotel asuxufi owner) who oppose law and order to justice.

Flipmode, It depends on what "to others" mean. Somali women are not up for sale The stray one can go who doesn't see the wisdom of staying around, but we want the majority to stay with the rest and carry on. This is in their interest as only men do ensure the continuity of any ethnicity, particularly paternal societies. Waana been in nin la'aan jirto. The only people I see come up with that excuse are the ones interested in calling it quits Anyway, Flipmode, adiga nin maa tahay mise naag? Sorry if the question hurts your male ego and you are a male. Kashanre That is tragic bro. Racism is bigotry but dealing with somalis, one might as well think hard before they find themselves in unpleasant union with problematic outcome. Aniga qudheyda, as hard as I try to hold on to the concept of equality between all races, I prefer my own kind because I understand them and can rely on them, any kids I will have will not be lost. I don't want my kids to be lost in America and become Americans who lose their heredity. I want them to enjoy the same privelleges I enjoyed by being somali. Being somali has a lot of benefits. Somali all the way LOL.

lol@Alle-Ubaahne, Castro Reer magaal waaye ee dhaaf saaxib. Mutakallimna wax xun maku arkin intaan ka aqriyay, marka isaga iyo inta wax ku heysataa kolley is og, aniga laakiin waxba kuma heysto. I haven't visited on a regular basis to know what everybody had said before. btw, waxaa laga yaabaa inuu qofka ku dhibsado oo daraaddaa meesha u imaan waayo hadhoow. Let them be.

Jomaana, I can cook but it is tiresome to cook. Plus your appetite dies as you are cooking. It is better if someone else cooks it for you. I would rather clean the dishes, vacuum the house, and do the laundry than cook. What I find disturbing is how some of these young girls think life is about their pleasure and their men pleasing them eternally. Their mothers should be their perfect examples and they should emulate them instead of following the mirage life created in their mind by the sop operas they watch or the one purported in romantic books and movies Life doesn't imitate misleading arts in the real world.

Socod-Badne, you may not have heard of it but healthy people do die in their sleep sometimes with no prior ailments. Ever heard of sudden death? You are confusing the cause of death with the preordination of someone's time of death. The most important thing to understand about death is that no matter the cause, whether it is a desease that kills someone or a car accident, or just dying while seated in a theatre, no one dies before their time of death. We can say someone died of this or that cause, at the same time, we believe death is preordained and everyone of us dies on his/her time. Not before, not after Besides, improvement to science and new discoveries won't help man live longer than they would have lived anyway. Such folly is entertained by people who rely on science to explain everything. Let the scientists create an ant before they attempt getting a new lease on life for people bound to die at their own time

There is nothing wrong to discuss with a fellow somali about your intensions and sharing with them how far you have progressed in life. Such information is shared because the listener will be happy to hear about it knowing a somali person made it small or big, after all, that is why we are here. Money and Education.

ThePoint, For every loser, there are 9 successful hard working somali men out there. In fact, many do hold two jobs. You may be surprised to know that some of these young men can't even write the language when they come to these countries, yet they shine in schools for their genetic brilliant mind and hardwork. Opportunities may differ from one country to another, but here in North America, it is work or beg and men do surely work as much as women do. Marka nin yohow, These girls who do marry foreign men don't lack a stellar somali man. Their choice has nothing to do with Somali men. They justify their choice by speaking ill of somali men and projecting their insecurity on the innocent faraxs. Btw, McPharax waa NIN I think. Taking him with you won't be a good company.

Mr.Orgilaqe, Markaad kala saarto tribalism which you prefer and practice religiously, and nationalism, I might reconsider the concept Marka hore soo kala dooro adiga labada mid, ka dibna hal waji aan kuugu imaado.

Username: Xoogsade Submitted: 12/16/2005 7:40:46 AM Your Procrastination Score: 49 Score Interpretation: 41-60: You are a procrastinator. (Module 3 in the textbook Learning and Motivation Strategies can offer you ways to overcome your procrastinating, but only if you make an effort to employ them.) I based my replies on my study habits but not on the "actual work" as in working to make Money. I do show up on time and do an excellent job at work, learn more of the stuff I do from seniors, never call in sick unless seriously sick, however, I usually screw up my perfect grades at shool because of missing one or two project deadlines. I read for exams when I have a day or two left. I promise to myself the next semester will be my best but it never materializes The teachers tell me that I am a good student but I don't see how that is. perhaps an attentive countenance in class and the constant eye contact I keep, nodding in agreement with them on every point they make made them think I am an the "A" type who couldn't keep the grades all the time at that level somehow LOL. Warkiiyoo kooban, waxaan u dhexeeyaa "A" MINUS and "B+"

by Castro : ^ Seems like you're dodging the request. Try us. Explain the point to us. See if we miss it then use any label you like after that. Fair, atheer? quote: Originally posted by Hitlerette: I doubt you will grasp anything i have to say my dear - people here either have simple mind or they lacking the understanding of simple things - which ever way that might be - coherent thought isn't lacking - we should all be thankful of that And how coherent is the above atheer? LOL@CASTRO. Good one.

The alleged Security forces being built up, who the writer alleges will tighten the noose on the warlords, will never be effective in assuring in a government everyone will support. So far, they are made up of men from Puntland and Ali Dheere's private sub-sub-clan militia mostly. The TFG calls them government forces while people who disagree with it see them as tribal militia. Intaan meel fogba la gaarin iyagaaba is cuni doono possibly as happened few weeks ago when Ali Dheere' own militia doing their nightly rounds exchanged gun fire with their guests from the PUNT by accident. Dowladaan iyo xulafadeeda Waa dad aad ku xisaabeysid iney hal koox/jamaaco yihiin laakiin quluubtooda kala tag san tahay. Allow yaa dhaalacdo qalbiga Cabdullaahi Yusuf iyo wal walka ka heysta dadkuu ku dhex nool yahay. Dad kala baqaaya iyaga qudhooda horumar ma keeni karaan? For any plan To be successful, complete participation of all parties needs to be attained by this weak dying government, or it will be buried like its predecessors. Because, in yar dowlad ma dhisi karto, qaar soomalida ka tirsan oo kaa niyad go'an aamin-darro sababteedana waa caqabad weynaatay. All is left is talk, talk, too much talk. Like it used to be, everyone is blind to the realities. I agree with the writer in many points he made among them being that Nationalism had been mortally wounded. I for one don't believe in it.

Alla-Ubaahne, ragga qaarkii waad ka ARAGTI fiican tahay saxib. Qof qabiil mar marsiinyo u raadiyay waa qof jiran. Inshallah dadka koonfurta hoose deggan islaamkaa u dambeyn doono maadaama qabiil isticmaalkiisa iyo daba orodkiisa waxba u keeni waayay aan ka ahayn dhibaato. Hala arko dadkan leh qabiilbaa isticmaalkiisa dad wax taray meesha ay ku dambeeyaan. If I can't live in Bosaso as confident as I would in muqdisho, muxuu aniga i taray qabiilkooda iyo wax ku dhiskiisa? Maamul qabiileed caddaalad ma keeno, nidaamka qabaliga ahna wuxuu u daneeyaa oo keliya cidda ka dhalatay degaanka. Dad baa mar walba dulman oo dulmi ku hoos noolaanaayo. Meel walboo qabiil awood ku leeyahay dulmigaasaa ka jiro. Muqdisho waa lagu kala cararay markey noqotey magaalo qabiileed. Meelo badanaan soo maray markii lasoo qaxay waxaanan soo arkay in haddii meel aadan ka dhalanin, ku noolaashaheeda sharaftaada iyo dad nimadaada wax u dhimeyso. Arrinta waxaa waaye, haddii la rabo soomaalida iney isla noolaato, is dhex gasho oo hal ummad iyadoo ah meel ku wada noolaato, qabiil halaga talo baxo. Haddii la diido, amaan hala ka helo. Ha anfaco qabiil dadka jecel innagana ilaahaan uga dacwooneynaa dhibaatada qabiilka.