^^ That my friend sounds more of a guy saying: "I'm freaked out right now, woman backkkk offf." Bishaaro, Au contraire! I was in disbelief by the fact that a girl like Curling would have high opinions of me, hence, my lack of immidiate response. The real question is or should be, do I get the privellege to have such a popular girl(with the guys) as my very own? PS: I used to stalk her around in public when she was seven of nine. You weren't around then I suppose.

Castro, you are always protective of Curling The Blonde, I noticed that, however, your attempts this time to shield her from my possession is futile And you know why? The reason you cited for my alleged disqualification isn't true. Try another disqualifier if you can, till then Old Man, Curling proposed already We just have to wait for bro Nur to see if he thinks I am fit for her and he will give me away to her as a reward for her replies to his questionnaire.

Originally posted by LaVie: Personally, I prefer older guys say about 5-10 years age difference, so that when he dies I get my toyboy ( the best of both worlds). You could be a granny by then unless you are poisoning the poor man to speed up your acquisition of the ever available toyboy. Ahura Define "worthy to look at". Ma waxaa ka waddaa Girl-Boy types? Nin qurux badan in laga deyriyay ma ogid miyaa?

I am at a loss for words Curling. Don't know what to say as a reply to such a smart pretty girl asking for my hand

They should make thousands of movies like this one.

Underdog, Your wife should have access to your account and know your password/pin. It is even better if she can log on online and read the statements Think about this, if you are transparent with her and she knows where every dollar is spent, she is most likely to sympathize with you and never blame you for certain jewelry heblaayo has which you wouldn't buy her because you like to sit on the money I would volunteer all info before she even asks for it. What is mine is hers. Surely, a smart woman will be able to know what is good for her family.

Xiin, No it is not too bad. Just say "if I were in the market" and go on from there. I like to know your choice of a woman. Seventh, Education Background: Men a. Do you feel threatened to be married to a woman who is more educated that you are? - No. It helps if she is educated. Education is always useful. More importantly, education is the means through which a woman who lives in the west communicates with her children, deprograms them from the garbage taught in schools and will respond to all their spiritual questions. Otherwise, there will be communication chasm between her and her kids. c. If NO, how much of the household responsibilities are you willing you willing to share with your wife? - Vacuuming, babysitting, dish-washing, grocery shopping, laundry, etc. But absolutely No cooking for me. I hate cooking. If she gets sick and she can't, I will buy the food from the restaurant. Cashada iyo quraacda waa easy, rooti iyo malmalaado ama ukunaa lagu tuuraa easy. d. Do you see education as an asset that compensates with appeal or age in a woman? I mean would you choose an older and average looking woman with good education over a good looking younger woman . - This is tough one as I love beauty. However, in the end, wuxuu ilaahay wanaag kaala kulminaayaa fiican oo nafta ku degeyso. No amount of beauty will keep a home together if the character isn't there. Waa adigoo qori dab ah laguugu dul fariisiyay oo kale. So, after some soul searching, I would say I wouldn't be bias to a woman because of an age gap between her and another if the older one has pleasant earthly character.

I do take a shower every time I wake up from sleep even if I slept for few hours. I never went out without a shower winter or not. Once a day for sure without a miss. Btw, Mr.Qutb, the only shower that has certain rituals performed for it is the one done after copulating with your significant other or after you had a dream about some nice beauty(usually missing the bottom half on my case). Otherwise, I thought a shower was just a shower which meant getting water to all parts of your body and consequently clean them. Am I right? Yea, I think this topic is relevant as many of us, particularly youngesters(guys), are not keeping body cleanliness a priority. I noticed many somali guys at school or at work who take a piss and do nothing afterwards except zip up and walk out of the door just like their nonmuslim friends. Common cause for such behaviour could be lack of prayer may be as prayer would have required them to clean themselves on a regular basis. Bishaaro. How are you funny girl? Did you have to mention the boogers?

Ahura, someone has to point out the downside to freedom misused and abused. Makalajabti willfully ignored the negatives and went her way to justify even what logical person be them a muslim or nonmuslim finds to be self degradation. We know organizations that exist to dissuade women from prostitution and selling their bodies for an income or for both pleasure and money although I don't see where the pleasure comes from. We know organizations lead by western women who are against the sex-toy image for women prevalent in their culture. There is abuse, bias, bigotry and all kinds of threats against women in the west. Sadly but truthfully, women are as good as they look only. The main focus is on their body regardless of whatever personal successes she has achieved in life. For somali women, It is a question of what they want to accept from a culture that has both good and bad in it. Often times I see girls glorifying one aspect of a culture which has miserably failed its own women at large. In no way do I believe Muslims are better just because they are muslims, however, if it is emancipation and being free from the bondage of mankind, muslim women already have the means to extricate themselves from unpleasant situations. They do not need the approval of a man, the acceptance of society or people telling them they look good and are successful for them to feel worthy of something. From a man's perpective, be he a muslim or a nonmuslim, a b-itchy woman is no worth a dime no matter how successful she is in material wealth or knowledge. Relationships are founded on love and on each person's acceptance of their role as a man or a woman. A woman is better served to love like a woman, to respect herself as a woman and celebrate her femininity. The problem is the death of womanhood in the psyche of western women. Most of them were raised to be angry at men and base on their struggle to be revengeful. The result is them to find difficult time holding meaningful relationships. This is what happened to somali women who thought they are free to do as they please and they shouldn't seek resolution to their differences with their husbands so they can keep their homes secure from splits and from rendering kids fatherless. All somali men are not perfect, some are indeed losers, however, when the girls are telling each other before they even get married that they have the upper hand and can dictate what goes on in their homes, disregarding their husband's views, it is no wonder the divorce rate is just as high as that of western homes. Instead of using the system to their advancement, it turns out that many ended up victims of the same system that was built to help them escape abusive relationships and be self-sustaining. So Ahura, let the girls be wise and smart enough to take what is beneficial and to their advantage from other societies. Yeniceri Ahura fancies alpha xoogsade in her life, hence, the squabbles with him Foxy Did yeniceri touch a raw nerve when he mentioned a foreigner? We want somali girls to be moored to us forever. We want them for us

Originally posted by Yeniceri: quote:Originally posted by haldhaa: still don't have an answer Are men Human? Qoftaan korontadaa waa hore ka tagtay. Cuntadaan cunaayaan soo matagi lahaa qosol dartiis saaxiib loooooooool. Anyway, ereyga Haldhaa maloo bixin jirinoo neefka labka/ninka ah? Mise anigaa wareersan? Some of you are really funny

Yes indeed liberated to burn their bras and demand sex in public. Very advanced I say. Makalajabti laid it out all for us lucidly when she said prostitution or any kind of life irrespective of the end result bad or good is liberation. It makes all sense why western women end up mostly depressed and lonely while some of them literally worship men who come their way. Their liberation served men who were the entities they were supposed to be liberated from afterall. Sweet deal. And if we list the successes achieved through feminist movements, it is having a job with less pay than the man next to the woman doing the same job, dressing like a guy, and basically servicing the ever avaricious souls of men. Surely a success in my book.

Originally posted by Castro: ^ Callypso, this is where innocence is buried. Do come more often and pay your respects. Castro, adaa ka naxaayo Callypso oo runta u sheegay. This section should have special access to only few individuals. If I could and there was a way to do, I would go as extreme as placing a ban on all girls even for viewing of this section.

Liban, it is better for these women to expose the hypocrisy of the west and stick to their culture and tradition than abandon the land of God for some ill-informed people. They should exhaust first all opportunities then abandon the place if they are forced to uncover their faces. Such fears and misunderstanding will lead to greater interest in islam in the future. Ever since the white man ventured outside Europe, their contribution to humanity was mayhem and the rape of others. About time they felt what cultural disenfranchisement means. Lucky for them the culture that bothers them and stokes fear in them is superior to anything they ever experienced or forced down the throat of others.

Originally posted by Liban The Man: I'm not saying to stay at the job, but keep it until you find one that will accomodate your salat schedule. Welfare, as far as I know is quite bad(not sure if it is haraam) when you are quite capable of working. Lee, You can't go around shopping for a job that does let you pray. To begin with, during a job interview, it is counter productive to ask the interviewer if there were any objections to one's religious practice. What one needs to do is to get a job first, then go from there. Once you are hired, just pull out your salli and pray on your breaks hoping these times would reconcile with prayer schedule. If not, ask your area lead or supervisor to accomodate you for five minutes. Tell them you can sacrifice your entire breaks for a five minute on a specific time inwhich you need to pray. If they see your dedication to your beliefs, Most american bosses would accomodate you. There are many avenues for a muslim who is keen on prayer to find accomodation. The decision to stay on the job after you are told prayer is not acceptable will depend on your conviction and what you consider priority in life. Work is important and required from every capable muslim, at the same time, Prayer which is the foundation of one's existence takes precendence saxib. Welfare is designed to help people on a temporary basis untill they can stand on their own. If one was to quit the job, and there are no relatives to live with or friends to stay with till that person finds another job, nothing makes going to the welfare office morally wrong. Castro yea, that was off topic

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SocodBadne, One is the ability to percieve and feel while the other is the organ through which you percieve and think or the act of feeling/sensing as in "I sensed". Does that make "sense" to you? Bishaaro Britney intee iga soo salaantay? Btw, caadi waaye, characterka "xoogsade" waa for fun. Ha iska faan faanee maxaa ka rabtaa? lol.

Originally posted by Bishaaro: I Will Always Love You' puts a tear in my eye every time! Boy did Whitney Houston butcher that song or what? Bishaaro, qalbi jileecaa kaa batay.

Liban Temporary Welfare is much better than staying on a job that doesn't let you pray. Surely, one would quit the job if there were imminent health risks and wouldn't second-guess his decision of quitting. Most companies would let you pray and would accomodate you if they see you are intent on praying. Actually, they will respect you for that. If you show fear and uncertainty, then they might think of you as uncertain and just buying extra break for you to escape work. Ilaahay iyo Lacag yaa muhiimsan? Not that I am pious but seriously, beliefs are more important than money.

Sayidka isagaa isugu filan is difaac. He left an enduring legacy behind and one which presents difficulty to anyone who would want to portray him as insignificant. Ma aqriseen gabaygiisa Dardaaran? That was beautiful poem. Aniga waxaan ka helay sida uu isu difaacay marka dadkii necbaa ay ku farxeen Jabkii uu jabay. Waxaan ka naxay naagaha xijaaban ee la kufsaday(I was shocked to read there were women with the Veil that early in Somali history) iyo dadka waayeelka ah oo la gawracay. I was also impressed by how he gave an advice to those same somalis who took advantage of his weakness. They(The sayid and his followers) were martrys who died for a good cause. Dardaaran Mindaroofle aqal daahya weyn, dadab la heedaamay' dermo iyo firaash lagu gam'iyo,daalam iyo googo' aniga oo waxaan doonayaba, darajaday haysta' iyo duni wixii nagaga lumay, darrakii ceel dheere' dab wax guba dayurado kufrigu,nagu dul gowdiidshay' dunbuq subuca degelkana ka kacay,dahab wixii yiilay' dakhal jabay wixii daar burburay, ama bukaar duug may' didibtii banaaneyd wixii, dad iyo maal jiifay diric iyo waxay shiikh dileen,ama duq waayeela maxajabad daboolayd, wixii gaal dukhulaayay lo'durdura wixii daable geel,nala ka sii daayay dulihii shareeraa wixii, daal na caga gooyay dirrowgii qabsaday reerkayaga, dalankicii gaaray dulkuneefle kan soo agmaro,duulan ka horgayska dan la'aanwaxay nagu faleen,darab nijaseedku doonyaha shamaalka ah, hadii dakhalka loo laalo maruun baa dabaylaha sidaa, koru dandaanshaane oo doofaradii ku jiray,daraxu caynshaaye dabro cudura duunyo iyo furuq,waxa dadkii xaaqay anagu diidi maynoo marbaa,dayin noo wacaye ninkiise tiisa loo daynayaa, haygu diirsado'e kolna hadan cidlaga daynahayn, mowdka dabaqdiisa ninkii hataan nagu diganayoow, dan iyo xeeshaa dangaraaradii nagu dhacdiyo,webi dabaashiisa, inksatoo daleel nala dhigaan, doocan nagu cayman duuflaaladii naga harow, dan iyo xeeshiina doodna waxaan u leeyahy, dadkeer hadalka dayn waayay niman yohow damiinimada, waalagu duloobaaye daku wuxuu jeclaysta waxaan, duxi ka raacayne dagaalki nasaarada anaa, daalib ku ahaaye dalka malihid anigaa ku iri, doora weynahaye daliilkii rasuulkii anaa,doonayoo helaye anaa diiday maantuu lahaa, deeqadan iga hooya diinkayga anigaan ku gadan, dabiqii naareede anan labada da-rood tan hore, darajo moodayne markay duushay gaaladu, anaa daabbadduu rarinye goortay dareeraan anaan, diiraduu qabane anigaan dariiqiyo wadada, dowga sii marine anaan doora weynow kufriga, daacadnuu galine ferenjiga dilayska leh anaan,duudxamaal noqone waa wixii durban tumay, markaan dowga sii maraye waa wixii dayooy yiri, intuu soo dabbaadegaye dadow maqal dabuub taan ku iri, ama dan how yeelan ama dhaha darooryiba jiryaye,doxorku yeelkisa nin ragay dardaaran u tahaye, doqon hamoogaado dawo lagama helo gaal hadaad, daawo dhigataane waa idin dagaayaa kufriga, aad u dabcaysane dirhankuu idiin qubahayaa' dib u go'aysaane marka hore dabkuu idin ka dhigi, dumarsidiisiye marka xigana dabaqadda yuu,dareen siine marka xiga dalkuu idin ku oran, duunya dhaafsadaye marka xiga dushuu idinka rari, sida dameeraaye marhadan dushii adari iyo, iimay dacaldhaafay maxaad igaga digataan, beruu siin la soo degiye

When I apologized for the wrongs, some of you thought I was jesting. Marka maa naga dhaaftaan kala hadalka?

Salahudin, Haddaaba loo aqoonsan yahay Bosaso inay magaalo soomaaliyeed tahay oo qof walbo aadi karo, ka gancasan karo ama joogi karo. That had not been an issue for the last 10 years. We wish progress and prosperity saxib for everyone over there.

MMA, I could take the option of silence although I don't think keeping my quite will make me a nontribalist if I was one to begin with. Same way again, One can be a biased person who keeps his quite whereas another who speaks and seeks to reason with others could be a nontribalist. Just because a person challenges another while keeping to a respectful line, doesn't mean that person who spoke is a tribalist. It is the method and the content of the person's contribution that define who is and what is a tribalist but not writing to someone a reply. If peoeple don't correct each other, who will? Definitely, it is more dignified to refrain from participating in discussions of tribal nature(somali politics), but the temptation to respond is there if you visit and you see wax kaa yaabiyo saaxib. I suggest to every decent person who feels they have got something to say, to reply and get involved without going beyond acceptable moral boundaries. Waxaa laga yaabaa qof xumaan lahaa oo cuqdad qaadi lahaa inuu ku farxo qof kale oo qabiil kale ka dhashay oo caddaalad ku hadlaayo markuu arko. In that case, he may overlook the foolishness of some.

The answer is, The parties in dispute, mostly self-appointed or peer-appointed men mistrust each other. They devided the country into fiefdoms they rule by force or some claim to rule although they don't, so consequently, each one among them can't go to a town or a region his foe lords. The only option left then for them is to run to neighbouring countries or to any country hosting them.

Dadka odayaasha ah sida Xiin waxaan u maleen jiray inay waqti hore seexdaan. Well, guess I was wrong.

Jafarel, Saxib, Togane should add the purifying comment of "Allah Knows best" at the end of every malice and invectives like you did so we don't have to be on his case. Wicked