Originally posted by NATION: Xoogsade those that don't want peace for Somalia are no brothers of mine they must go 6 feet under with the help of god of course. At least you mentioned "GOD" this time despite the ignoble objectives. You might find your way

^ It could be the opposite and the fellow somalis you wish for their disappearance might succeed with the leaf of God and with the help of every other faithful unbigotted somali who loves his country and religion. Indeed, there is no victory except from Allah, the All-Mighty, the All-Wise. The tanks you speak of and the 70,000 troops are no match for the determined somalis. Dhimashada waxay dhibtaa qofka dhoofka ku yimid ee nin dhulkuu u dhashay joogo waxba lama ahan. If some of us are in awe of other human beings and would submitt their freedom to others in servitude, majority of the somalis are not keen in doing so but would die fighting the good fight and shall meet death with honour given the opportunity. No USA,EU,AU OR IGAD can tame the free spirit of somalis. And lastly, you don't have the concept of peace and what the word entails for if you did, you wouldn't have expressed the dire need within you for the blood of thousands of others like you.

^ So there are no favourable circumstances presenting themselves to the TFG even with a deployment? Still, the deployment of these ill-equipped troops will be detrimental to the recovery and eventual unity of somalis. Easy they come but it takes a bloody war usually to evict unwelcome foreign troops. Add to the eqaution to some opportunistic somalis who might happily serve along side foreigners.

NATION, Lebanon is first, the US is busy buying back the credibility it lost in participating the war against Lebanon. The congress is talking about beating Hizbullah to the people and buying hearts and minds with funds they don't even have yet. Somalia is not a priority for them other than lip service or warning againSt the emergence of islam in the country. The UN is also busy gathering troops around the world to meet the israeli and western demands. So again, Somalia is not on the priority list of the UN for now. Actually, the UN representative for east africa advised IGAD to stay away from Somalia and not send troops. IGAD, Ethiopia in particular should heed that wise advise and spare the somalis from unnecessary bloodshed. Surely, A/Y and prime minister Geeddi are the only reason these IGAD troops are being sent on ethiopian recommendation. If these two men had the confidence of their own society, they wouldn't call in for these troops. No amount of firepower and no amount of troops will ever be able to pacify the country so these men can rule. They know people are not interested so the best thing they can do is stick around with the help of their outside friends while the country is being occupied piece by piece, town by town by ethiopia digging trenches. Kuwaan waaba dambiilayaal u baahan in maxkamad lasoo taago for their consent of the country's occupation. But then again, they represent ethiopia itself so no wonder their tacit permission for the entire country to be occupied by ethiopia and anyone else interested. The TFG has got nothing to lose by inviting these armies as the true enemies it has are the somalis who threaten its existence. TFG has the support of the immoral among our society to be blunt. Anyways, have you asked for refund of your charity since you threatened to ask for that if the IMAM of your mosque went to Muqdisho? Has he gone to Muqdisho yet?

Midda kale, you never know that good Shiekh Shariif reads these pages looking constructive clues from the Diaspora! LOL, This would be nice. If he visited online forums once in a while to get the scoop on what somalis in the west think of the courts, their opinions and complaints valid or invalid. These days online mediums are very important so the courts should set up a blog for sheekh shariif or he should visit SOL and other political forums to see what is going on. I don't know if anyone of you heard but Ahmedinajad has a personal blog according to MPR. Anyway, some of you misunderstand or love to misunderstand Xiinfaniin, he is the best ally the courts can have, very good guy with character and dignity. Is there anyone who disagrees that all the support offered to organizations and individuals be they islamic oriented or not should be conditional? and criticism is one way to correct mistakes or prevent some in the future. No one is perfect and we hope the courts succeed in spreading islamic values and sharia laws. Anything but clan based politics are welcome in my opinion. We are tired of looking to men who love to rule us based on our clan differences and exploit the masses to their personal benefits.

lol@Bishaaro, ii waran abaayo? Funny that my registered name on SOL is "Bulxan". We haven't robbed enough somalis to be that rich to own Planes I have got other riches of my own necessary for winning the hand of a girl like you. And of course, I can't tell or detail these riches in public to avoid spoiling opportunities for you(you never know who will beat you to me first, see, waan kuu ilaalinaayaa fursadda, you gotta love that), it will have to be private revelations per your request. Suldaanka. ii sheeg horta, maku qaldanaa isku xirka reerka iyo somaliland? ogoloow inaan kaa badiyay saxib.

Duke, I miss how my prompt response highlights what change will bring. You can elaborate that for me I suppose. Anyhow, don't count on the TFG to deliver for anyone including you. If they survive another year they are lucky. With the support of everyone outside Somalia, they still haven't achieved anything which says a lot about what is wrong with them. You can't realize such realities for your focus on clans rather than focussing on the credibility issues of the TFG leadership, their bondage to an enemy who never showed any care about the unity of Somalis(they want the country devided as it is into clan fiefdoms) and who in every turn of the way, despite the world advising them not to, gets involved in somali politics which discredits the same organization they are intent on saving. Marka hore, TFG-da haka xorowdo the masters in its living room dictating policies for them. May be then somalis will consider them as some worthy organization. Surely, the TFG lacks the moral ground to sway the public to their side let alone deliver anything to the needy somalis who had hoped for some way out of their misery. PS: Don't forget how my previous response highlighted what you insinuated it highlighted.

Af waaka laakiin maxaa lagu cunaa? Who on earth can pull such a dream project? Well, ethiopia a patron of Cadde Muse said it might invade galguduud if Puntland region comes under attack, may be your prayers are about to be accepted there saxib.

Suldaanka, But was I wrong in my interpretation about the family's connection? That is how I understood. I know many somalis and no one identifies themselves as somalilander except some of my friends from one particular family, that of yours suldaanka. No offence brother. I am not sure qof cerigavo ka yimid inuu leeyahay somalilander aan ahay ama qof laascaanood ka yimid. If some do, I have no objections to it as well though my objections if I had any would amount to nothing anyway. You can appreciate the fact that majority of somalis associate Somaliland with one clan and love to ignore the claims made by somalis like you that Somaliland is representative of many clans. Aniga kula hadlaaya maantoo dhan haddii la igu wacdinaayo somaliland qaabiillo badanaa ku nool oo raba inay goonni isu taagaan, I dismiss it with ease. Anyways, waa la is maan dhaafsan yahay. Wixii dhunsan/lunsan ilaahay hasoo hanuuniyo. ME lol, yea, I would say it is fun if it wouldn't offend our Suldaan here.

Nice way of identifying the family You just told us saxib that somaliland is identified with one Qabiil.

Xabasahi, Tahliil's fears are valid. Many somalis who went back home came back with the same fears. Unusual numbers of immigrants from ethiopia. If there was strong central government, this would be nothing to worry about, but with the current situation, this poses a threat. Ignoring the xenophobia somalis have, numbers do matter, we are only about ten million scattered throughout the country. These immigrants come to work and make money while some seek a way out of Africa and stay there as transit. There are opportunities for them in Somalia. They are also safe there. Btw, Somali is not a clan, it is a nation. What I said about us being smart has no clan logic to it. And I am surprised you made a remark about how somalis should be first equal to you for them to consider you an enemy. Hmm! You must have forgotten how your emperor wrote to Portugal and to Europe in general begging to be saved from Somalis Let us not talk about the cubans, the yeminis and the angolans saving you in the 70s war. Habaryar = Aunt from the mother side. Your mother's sister.

Art, you are the voice for Range Resources around here so why not take a shot at the questions? You aren't doing a good PR. Your silence only re-enforces the negative views some already have about the range.

Xaabashi You are too smart and brazen to be amxaar/Xabashi, traits/qualities somalis are known for. You must be a somali but do tell us, Ma hooyadaa baa amxaaro ah mise naagtaada? PS: Pretend someone has translated for you and come back with the answers. Tahliil Your concern is valid. We are threatened by the sheer number of our neighbour. If the ethiopian government falls, we have some serious issues coming our way. May the ethiopians get government other than this corrupted tigre junta, a government that gives to all ethnicities their due rights.

Bro duke, No one will cause trouble for Puntland. There has been misundersanding between the courts and Cadde Muse adminstration. That misunderstanding has come to an end and the parties decided to talk instead. Talks instead of War. Second article from Top Now we hope the courts bring peace to southern Galkacyo and introduce law and order, mediate between warring clans(reer diid and cadaado folks) lol. Surely, Puntlanders can benefit from responsible neighbours.

Never mind saxib, sidii ilaahay ka dhigo aan aragno. We hope for peace.

^ Why not? That is not dressing up in defiance as no one has imposed on Cadde a different dress code but rather him getting ready and letting people know he is aware of their alleged fears. This must be an occassion to shine and come through on his part for the puntlanders and defeat their enemies PS: Would it be problematic if Sharia laws were introduced into the most needy areas of Mudug? I read the ICU leadership affirming their hands off approach to regions like Puntland. So why would Cadde get ready for a war others are not interested in?

Originally posted by Aussie Ranger: Why does a 'student' in Mogadishu take so much interest in Puntland and Range ? I don't think you are being honest with us aar0 (member since August 03, 2006) You are misguided to think someone from Muqdisho can't have an opinion about Puntland region of the country. You have such low opinion of somalis it is very insulting. It is like me telling you and art you can't have an opinion about Australia. Somalia belongs to all somalis and each one of them has a say in what goes on in that country no matter where. If you can't defend the corrupt company, say so instead of accusing a somali who righfuly spoke about issues that concern him of dishonesty.

But that doesn't make Waqooyi galbeed a "country" of its own. Here in the states, we have different codes for most states as well. In one state alone one can find different area codes for towns adjacent to one another. 612 minneapolis area, 952 bloomington, 651 saintpaul, 507 rochester to mention a few and these are towns in one small state few miles apart the size of Somalia if not less

Originally posted by Nur: Miskin waxaad qortay We can see dowlada kumeergaarka in uu dhexdeeda qilaaf weyn ka jiro, but kuwaan ayaa ka daran waxa ka jiro la qariyo. So give them a few months. Adigaa arki doontid sida loo kala jabi doono, waxa kasoo bixi doono. As A Muslim who is concerned about the well being of his people, Wouldnt it be better instead for you to wish them to bridge their differences which you claim to be much greater than the TFG? Nur You are adressing the wrong man here. He wouldn't mind if whole clans disappeared from the face of the earth let alone him wishing any good happen to them. Rahima. Differences of opinion always do exist among people whoever they are, however, the way the sheekh was portrayed is far beyond that. The way I understood it, miskiin gave the impression that Sheekh cukaashe was bent on vilifying others as power hungry beasts who are at each other's throat. Now, does a man of god speak of others like that? surely not. Someone is lying about him. If the sheekh is that close to you, you should inform him how someone is using their good standing for bigotted gains. I would have done so if I had his number today.

I was a bit uncomfortable at first reading the article. Waxaan u qaatay markii hore in labadoodaba hal mar meesha intuu soo istaajiyay iyagoo is arkaayo meherka dhacay. That would be really odd. I realized finally that one of the wives was married at least ten minutes prior to the second saying "I do" . Posing with both wives is indha adeeg kale. They seem both happy as they are holding hands though Hope he treats them fairly and works for them hard in appreciation of their unconditional love for him.

I wish I had sheekh cukaashe's e-mail/ph# so I could ask him about what miskiin wrote for verification(I saved it in my personal e-mail just in case I get to opportunity to ask). I will definitely be able to find out where I can contact him as that is easy for me inshallah if I put my mind to it. This is, of course, if this sheekh cukaashe is the one whose house in Nairobi I visited along with a cousin of mine who had business deal with him back in the days. The cukaashe who read tafsiir on Sixth street. Not nice to associate sheekhs with a talk unbecoming of them. Hard to believe any dignified sheekh would talk behind others like this. Qof baa ceeboobi doono halkaan.

Here is their story, Laba naagle Soomalidii waa dallacday.

Whatever could have happened between the ICU and the TFG was eclipsed by the internal crisis the TFG is going through. Latest stories talk about Geeddi giving orders to shut down the airport to incoming flights apart from qat/jaad flights to avoid any part of his government traveling to Sudan. Shariif Xasan and co are postponed. Politically, the ICU has the upper hand as their objective is based on spreading islamic sharia while the TFG opposes such objectives. For the ICU to be incorporated into the TFG, the TFG will have to look more islamic or nothing will come to fruition. The best we can hope for is no wars initiated and the courts hold on to their pledge of no attacks while the TFG comes to the conclusion that islam won't harm them and they would move to Muqdisho to announce their ideological conversion away from the ethiopian influence. It is hoping for the impossible but that is the best way. This conflict is beyond clan or someone with personal vendetta. It is about belief systems. Geeddi oo Xanibaad kusoo rogay

Naxar, I wasn't thinking of an imaginary government but responding to your line of thinking that Geeddi met the tough criteria of hailing from a strong clan and having enough education to lead a nation. Geeddi is neither the brightest nor the most dignified member of his clan. If such were the reasons he earned the position to begin with, today that has no importance. His power and influence died with that of the warlords of Muqdisho and there is new body responsible for Muqdisho, hence, all the three titles I gave to Sheekh Shariif. 4.5 formula and its by product has little merit today. Duke. You have observed him perfectly saxib. He needs to go if the TFG wants to deal with the courts on good faith. We shall see afterwards who else doesn't want peace.

Duke, adaa si gaar ah ugu xiran dowladee, When are they gonna remove this dummy from his post? Any news towards that end saxib? He is making too many enemies for an already troubled government. Naxar-Nugaaleed. You have embarrassed yourself by what you just wrote about Geeddi being tough and the most educated. He is a loose canon and a thorn on the side of the TFG. They are all incompetent demagogues to begin with but Geeddi wins the medal for being the most incompetent spy and fool. Besides, clan concept is dead and Geeddi is nothing in Xamar. Smell the coffee and stop dreaming about clan bigotry. That is no more. We are all filed behind Sheekh Shariif irrespective of who we are clanwise, he is our president, our prime minister and our friend. Clan is dead.