Jazakallahu bro, you have done a better a job than many of us. Thanks.

^ Maxamed Dheere is building Kaniisad for them to alleviate their worries so the xabashi troops can pray to their God in times of worries while most Muqdisho mosques are closed or abandoned out of fear and lack of security. They put the request in and the powers that be agreed the building of the Orthodox church in Muqdisho should be kept hash hash at first even though the project was leaked out by ananymous insiders.

Thanks Xubeer. This link is the most useful. I don't need to look for contact information in somewhere else. Thanks again.

There are people you prefer to be on your side and Baashi is one of them. My disappointment with him comes from his explanation of Duke and Co's mental works. I already know about them. I want Baashi to hand the verdict to people when they are wrong without explanation of how their mind justifies for them the unjustifiable. Soomaalida dhaqan waxay ka dhigteen qof innocent ah in dhiiggiisa lagu xalaalaysto qof kale dambi uu galay. The same justifications I see uttered or written were being advanced by the USC(whose leaders are now comfortably important warlords in A/Y's clique) when they were driving people out of their homes. Now Duke and the rest of A/Y Supporters are doing the same. The same way no one had any excuse to evict and kill an innocent neighbour, the same way no one has now an excuse to support the displacement of a Million and the massacre of thousands by the Xabashis in collusion with clan militia. Qofkii qaldan Akhlaaqxumadiisa waa in loo sheego to keep them quite if morality matters. May be I am taking SOL serious enough to expect people held to the same standards they would be held in real life, but some comments do boil people's blood for their sheer savagery and ignorance(Duke's). And I do apologize to Baashi for calling him a cheerleader. I gave A/Y myself the benefit of the doubt and I was no cheerleader. I wanted somalis to come and agree on something at the time. And now I want him pay for what he oversees of profound tragedy. So Baashi, Abti, Ila Safo waa la iga gardaran yahay

Naxar, Not only am I serious but I actually sent couple of letters to some organizations. The least I can do from my safety here to express sorrow and share the pain with those somalis far away brutally bombed by the Xabashis you call friends.

Baashi, Two wrongs don't make a right, not everyone in Muqdisho's displaced and massacred is guilty of something, no one can justify what is going on. Whether you or someone else knows me and my personality, or what I stand for through my writings is immaterial when you are in the mud. There is right, and there is wrong, nothing in between them. If Duke has justification for his thirst of innocent blood, does the justification make him right? There is no one who equals Duke here. Only people who come close to him have something in common with him, they support A/Y. Point the finger to a character and let us examine that character. Who? Al-caddaalah saxib.

LOL, saxib, despite the realities on the ground of what the TFG is, it was unwise decision for these Radio stations to protesst this way. They were the voice of the people to some extent.

Why don't you guys send letters to the UN and to All organizations just for trying something in these times of dire need? Don't just read the news and sit by, do something.

This works in favour of the warlords. They should broadcast to let us know and the world the suffering of the people.

^ Well put saxib. Baashi wrote the poorest excuse for Duke's corruption. I thought he was the most reasonable cheerleader of A/Y. Each one us presents his real character sooner or later and this last post of his exposes some real characteristics honestly.

-Never Mind-. I wrote an indictment of sort, unnecessary.

The video even has some funny moments when an old woman with the nick "Helicopter Lady" at the end(at 13:13 seconds and from onwards) says ciidamada shisheeye "Cayayaankii bay iga laayeen xataa". It is a sad vidoe overall but one which describes the main culprit of Muqdisho suffering. US sponsorship of violence against Somalis for its national security.

http://www.afmaal.com/videos/somalia.newreport.html To watch, click where it says Watch now.

Originally posted by -: quote:Originally posted by Xoogsade: It goes to show soomaalida qaarkeed haba yaraatee wax xiriir ah inaysan la lahayn soomaalida kalee Muqdisho ku nool. I don't have the luxury to be indifferent or blame some group when I know my flesh is being burnt and who is responsible for the misery. Waa Runtaa. P.S. I would be lying if I say understand the mental anguish people in Xamar through. I remember 91 dagaalkii, intaas aa iigu filneed,if i was there any longer in Xamar, I would probably gone nuts. [/QB]You understand their anguish enough to not defend or find excuses for A/Y and warlords he brought back to Muqdisho. Hopefully, you will have nothing to regrett after these tragedies come into passage and you look back saxib.

If not afflicted with mental illness, many whose relatives live in Muqdisho do contend with severe anxiety. I have had days I had to call my parents ten times within the span of 12hrs just to make sure a mortar didn't land on them after I have spoken with them. It was even more difficult and still very difficult to log on here and see some individuals with the luxury and safety for their families write the most disgusting comments about the events back in Muqdisho. It goes to show soomaalida qaarkeed haba yaraatee wax xiriir ah inaysan la lahayn soomaalida kalee Muqdisho ku nool. I don't have the luxury to be indifferent or blame some group when I know my flesh is being burnt and who is responsible for the misery.

For those who think Somalilanders have alterior motives, the question is, why don't they express the same sentiment and voice their concern instead of questioning other people's genuine sympathy?

Does anyone know this man? His name is Mamaxed Bulxan. According to Youtube about the Video: Islamic funeral for African man killed in Jackson, Mississipi... (more) Islamic funeral for African man killed in Jackson, Mississippi after being hit by car. His body was never claimed by family member so a local mosque buried him. (less) Added: October 30, 2007

Originally posted by Armchair Politician: Living in the same city as civilians is not the same as "hiding behind them". Ethiopian and collaborator forces commit atrocities because they hope that will destroy the insurgents spirits. Tactics and strategy do not enter into it, other than perhaps psychological warfare. It is simply monstrous evil. The civilians the Shabbab, tribal resistance or UIC forces kill have two critical differences. One, they did not kill them on purpose, and two they try to avoid doing it. Ethiopian and collaborator forces deliberately and methodically slaughter the civilians who they deem to be "pro resistance". It is cruel and unnecessary, and does nothing to stop the resistance. It is simply revenge and inhumanity, the petty and personal vendettas of the warlords who make up the TFG against the people who rejected them so emphatically last year. Beautifully put. People are paying dearly for ousting the Warlords last year and assuring in a change unmatched in recent History. There is reason why Maxamed Dheere and Qeybdiid, And the Warlords of Muqdisho happily dress the Ethiopian issued green uniforms.

Originally posted by Odey: In my neck of the world it is not unusual for somalis who have arrived the last 8-10 years to classify themselves as liberals or socialists without understanding the ideological cement of the party. LOL, we are all democrats in Minnesota or a Republican if he is expediting a reunion Visa. Somalis in here are suvvy voters and helped send the first American Born Muslim Convert to the House of representatives.

Originally posted by Makhirian: quote:I agree with the rest of your comments and appreciate once more your candid effort to perfect the means to our goals. Thanks and remember always that Our country has produced many people who are capable, brave, virtuous, skilled, and wise. Allah's willing, they shall succeed in creating patriotism and the unification of our people from Hargeisa to Kismayo.I pray for God's mercy to ease and alleviate the Great suffering of Somalis in the Horn of Africa. They are the most wronged, the most isolated the most forgotten society in the whole wide world. Thanks bro for your comments and my apologies if you felt targetted by my comments both previous and current. I appreciate your brotherly feelings and your somalinimo saxib.

I let Didi Kong answer your question bro Oday. That is very interesting perspective you presented. May be she has something to say. The two forumers you mentioned are no different from A/Y's spokesperson who justified what is happening in Muqdisho on the Airwaves the day before. Most likely your friend knows such people do exist, heard them talk and defend their warlord, and she wouldn't be shocked at their comments. Just a Deja Vu feeling. And I hope she copes well with her tragedy. We are all going to meet death in peace or not, in violence or not.

Originally posted by Didi Kong: Hopefully it culminate into something fruitful (read: gaba'dh' ba la sinaya). :rolleyes: [/QB] How sweet of you Didi Kong. I am not a loser if you wish my efforts culminate into such fruitful outcome. I think inaa iga heshay adiga. My kind is rare among men. They don't come around often. Besides, holding back your opinion about people whilst you maintain a good face with them in public is hypocritical. I would feel tortured if I didn't tell people I disagree with what I think of their choices and personalities. My only fear is to go too far a bit in the throes of passion for which I apologize only to those who are decent and feel wronged. Other than that, tell me, how do I kiss "behind" lately? I didn't get that part. Surely, I am not the kind who seeks people's approval for expressing my opinion favourable or not. I say it. Oday. It poorly reflects on the poster rather than the website when the contents posted and the attitude of the poster are both below civilized standards.

Economic Left/Right: -6.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.41

Maakhir, I agree with your comments and appreciate your widom except that I would like to see the biased comments you saw I made with regards to Muqdisho's predicament. The reality on the ground is that all somalis are represented in the effort to fight the occupation. Just because people criticize somalis who lend A/Y and the TFG moral and material support, others who share a common ancestry with the culprits should not feel they are the target unless they are explicitly included. I do hear criticism aimed at the clan I belong to who is said to be part of the TFG supporters just because warlord Qeybdiid and clan militia he recruited have police Uniforms on. Such criticism doesn't push me to have a favourable opinion towards what I know is absolute shame. I don't care if people criticize my own uncles, I join the chorus against them and even fight them if it comes down to. In islam, you cut ties to people you know are hurting islam and muslims. That should be the driving motivation for all somalis not for their clans. I agree with the rest of your comments and appreciate once more your candid effort to perfect the means to our goals.

Maakhiri, I never blame somali clans collectively. And I do not count the irresponsible minorities in each clan as representatives of the innocent majority. My battle is with those who give support, excuse, or defend the attrocities regardless of who or what clan they hail from. I have expressed quite clearly on more than one occassion in here my disagreements with all associates of Ethiopia. I have no favourite among the TFG and its supporters. By mentioning somalilanders in the title of the thread shouldn't by default be assumed that I am excluding other somalis in paying my respect and gratitude. In fact, the most vocal demonstrators who blamed Ethiopia squarely were distinctly(by their somali accent) non-muqdisho or related somalis by clan.