xiinfaniin in your haste attempt to paint General Duke as a clanist, you have shown yourself to be no different. What's the difference between admiring a whole clan and despising a whole clan? In both cases you are generalizing.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: quote:Originally posted by General Duke: Calm down son, now he is like "Goldogob", whyits a border town I am fond of and it may be a target as Galkacyu and others will probably be for these lunatics, just lets not see you carry anything out adeer.. What is that supposed to mean, yaa lowborn(I already said why I think you are lowborn)? I mean what on the flying world are on about? Goldogob is a somali city which i never been to. It's known to be a home for a somali clan i admire, but not belong to. Now I want know two things. How's it possible to admire a whole clan? Are there not individuals among that clan that one cannot admire?

Al shababs are the same tuugo who were setting up checkpoints in mogadisho and terrorizing little old ladies, now these guys are painted as some sort of hero's? Even if the Ethiopians leave and the TFG is disbanded, these groups will splinter and turn on each other like the mindless hyena's they are. They have no long term plans for somalia, at the very least with the TFG there was a government and a plan for somalia. Personally would rather see A/Y and puntlanders to pull our troops from the south, and let these southerners cannibalize each other.

The new york times Oil prices fell to their lowest level in 20 months on Tuesday, despite efforts by the OPEC cartel to stem the slide, as weak economic growth continued to reduce consumption around the world. Lower energy prices are providing some welcome relief for struggling consumers, but a 59 percent decline in oil prices since their summer peak also shows how radically the prospects of the global economy have darkened in recent months. At an emergency meeting last month, members of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries agreed to reduce their output, as of Nov. 1, to slow the price slide. While there is no official tally of OPEC production, several members — including Algeria, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait — have signaled in recent days that they had begun paring their production. Various reports also suggested that Saudi Arabia, the cartel’s kingpin, had warned some Asian customers that it would pare exports by 5 percent next month. So far, OPEC producers have announced cuts totaling about 1.1 million barrels a day, less than the 1.5 million barrels a day that the cartel agreed to last month. According to estimates by PFC Energy, a consulting firm, however, producers have actually trimmed their production by only about 800,000 barrels a day. Despite these efforts, slower consumption has continued to weigh on oil markets, pushing prices down on Tuesday to their lowest level since March 2007. Crude oil futures on the New York Mercantile Exchange settled at $59.33 a barrel, down 5 percent. Prices have plummeted since hitting a peak of $145.29 a barrel in July. Producers face the difficult task of seeking to balance oil supplies with slowing demand during one of the worst economic slowdowns in recent memory. The International Monetary Fund recently warned that the world faced the prospect of a simultaneous recession in the United States, Europe and Japan for the first time in more than 60 years. The Chinese economy, long the main engine of growth in oil demand, is also slowing. As a result, a growing number of oil specialists now expect global demand to drop this year, which would be the first annual decline since 1983. “In a falling demand environment, it is extremely difficult to stem a price drop,” said Francisco Blanch, a commodity strategist at Merrill Lynch. “Global economic growth is still trending down and it will be a few quarters before we see a trough for oil prices. Until then, OPEC will try to figure out what the right level of production is going to be. That’s a hard thing to do.” After gasoline prices soared above $4 a gallon earlier this year, oil demand in the United States dropped over the summer. Consumption fell by 1.8 million barrels a day, or 8 percent, to 19.3 million barrels a day in August, compared with the same period a year ago, according to the latest monthly estimates from the Energy Department. As a result, refineries ran at their slowest pace in 21 years in August, typically one of the busiest months of the year. At the same time, inventories of crude oil kept building at a steady clip, suggesting there was more oil in the market than needed. Since July 4, gasoline prices have dropped for 17 weeks, to a nationwide average of about $2.22 a gallon, according to AAA, the automobile club. That is about 90 cents less than at the same time last year. OPEC, whose members account for 40 percent of the world’s oil exports, is scheduled to meet in Algeria next month. An Iranian oil official said on Tuesday that the producers might be forced to meet before that if prices continued to slide. OPEC’s cohesion will probably be tested in coming months if prices keep falling. Some countries, like Saudi Arabia, can afford to see lower prices for a while, while the price drop is already hurting producers like Iran and Venezuela. Michael Wittner, the global head of oil research at the French bank Société Générale, in London, said it was probable that OPEC would reduce production by another million barrels a day next month. “OPEC appears to be taking this very seriously, and they are telling their customers they would be getting less crude,” Mr. Wittner said. “But prices keep falling because despite all that, the markets have been down-shifting to a lower economic growth and slower oil demand.” David Kirsch, an oil analyst at PFC Energy, said OPEC producers knew they could not alter the market’s short-term view. But by starting to trim their output, they were trying to set the stage for a rebound in prices next year. “What OPEC is looking for is managing the fundamentals so they can create the conditions for a price recovery at some point, when the global economy starts to recover,” he said. New york times

^^ Nah, But I find it ironic that someone who can't do basic math can call someone else a retard.

^ adigana retard baad tahay bilaa cagli. Dhulaqarnayn Well, xaabsade like cadde and a lot of somali leaders waa selfish, corrupt calooshood u shaqeystayaal. I think the people there in LA are on the majority too powerless to do anything against his militia and are tired of war. LA can be brought back diplomatically.

Originally posted by AAliyah416: ^^^I left somalia when I was really young. But, that wont be an excuse cuz inshallah I intend to learn more. salaam p.s. How about you give me a geography lesson So did I, but one can still learn about somali cities. Qalin iyo warqaad so qaado, I will give you your lessons and will start from ras kambooni and go all the way to saylac. There are lot of historical cities people may not know about, for example xaafun is said to be the location of opone, the ancient trade center.

Originally posted by AAliyah416: actually now I see qardho, its pretty close to my hometown laascaanod. So, where's taleex? How can someone from las canood not know about taleex?

Dhulqarynanyn Sxb, that's not the way to handle this. Las Canood is part of puntland, puntland was formed by all puntlanders from all the different regions(SSC included). There are some selfish warlords in LA who were bought by SL, and I'm sure majority of LA residents don't want to have anything to do with somaliland.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: ^ Is not that taleex was bombed, but because the head quarters of a movement that forced the British to fight use their planes for the first time in africa. It speaks to how ferocious that rebellion was. How speak ill about the movement that gave us Somalinimo? seems a little backward if you ask. As for Qardho, it should be compared Towns like Las Qoray, the capital of Sultan Maxmuud Ali Shire and Las Anod, seat of the darwiish Garaads. I don't think I spoke ill of the movement. Indeed the dervish movement is great part of somali history, but it was also a destructive movement that was latent with clanism. Remember that same dervish movement(and ina sayid) was also responsible for raiding and pillaging somali cities and their people. So please save the hyperbolic statements like 'the movement that gave us Somalinimo'. Somalinimo was created in the 60's, decades after the dervish struggle against colonials. But no doubt that movement was part of the creation of somalinimo, but not the only or even significant part. Praise taleex untill you turn blue, but not at the expense of other cities.

Our city was the first city to be bombed by colonials wax lagu faano miyaa? wtf? Qardho was the home of the somali northeastern sultanate. And today Qardho is a burgeoning city, while taleex is some underdeveloped tuulo

lol@bus raacday. Kool_Kat's got some jokes But she's 100% right, if 'somalilanders' would focus more energy on themselves instead of consistently insulting other somali's and calling them 'savages' etc through their websites, then maybe they would be recognized. I personally have no problem with their ambition to separate, I think if there is a referendum and all reer hargaisa support separation, then so be it and hopefully the international community and the rest of somalia will give them the ictiraaf they've been crying for.

Originally posted by Kool_Kat: ^Umm, een, Dixon is not ghetto? Dixon is GHETTO...Sheekaaba noo wadaayee! Goormaa kugu dambeysay horta? Anaga laamigoo nadiif ah hanoo soo masawirinee... I was there a few months ago anoo mar hore iigu dambaysay...OH GOD!!! First of all, there was blood on the enterence doors (fresh blood, not mid qalalay), when the elevator doors closed there were blood streaks as well...I got off on the 8th floor, guess what, blood on the hallway walls and carpet...If that ain't ghetto, enlighten me bal on what ghetto is? Anaga cantarabaqashka naga kala yaree, Soomaali way tagtay - GHETTO STYLE... lol. To be fair, Dixon is better than American ghetto's. Canada is nice all around, I'm glad to be a canadian where at least I know I have free healthcare.

It's ghetto by western standards, I've been there, some of the building smell like urine and there is trash strewn all over the place. So you found one good picture, I'm sure I can do the same for mogadisho, does that mean the place is not a warzone?

Go to dixon and the ghetto's of GTA, and you'll see how dirty canada can be.

I don't think anyone really cares whether somaliland becomes independent or not, so long as they don't try to forcefully drag other somali's in SSC and Awdal with them.

Originally posted by Abtigiis &Tolka: In Somaliland too. There will be no recognition, nor any more visits by jandayi Fraser, that useless Bantu. No sense of tact whatsoever, and you are suppose to be a grown man? You are a good example of what's wrong with somali's.

war wuxu cagli xuma. How can anyone take a british rapper seriously init?

^ What makes you think women will excell at command or be any different than men? Did Margaret thatcher excell at command?

Check this out, beautiful piece of architecture: Burj al-taqa. Green Skyscraper. It seems UAE is taking climate change seriously. http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/skyscraper-creates-all-its-own-energy.html "This skyscraper, to be built in Dubai, is called the Burj al-Taqa (’Energy Tower’), and it will produce 100% of its own power. The tower will have a huge (197 foot diameter) wind turbine on its roof, and arrays of solar cells that will total 161,459 square feet in size. Additional energy is provided by an island of solar panels, which drifts in the sea within viewing distance of the tower."

My vote goes for anyone that's not from hargaisa or secessionist somaliland supporter. badana kuwaas waa dad dabeecadxun.

Cadawga ugu weyn ee Somaliland waa Somalia waana in la iska jiraa oo loo fiirsadaa “ waxaa la leeyahay dadkii wax qarxiyay waxay ka soo dageen madaarka, waxaad ogaataan in cadowgeena koowaad uu yahay Soomaali, cadowgeenu ma aha Xabashi iyo Kukuuyo, balse kuwaas inoo eeg eeg horena diirka inooga saaray ee intay Guryaheena inaga saareen dadkeeniina isku xidh-xidhay , ayaynu iska ilownay waar sowkii shalay uun ina dilayay waa kii uun’e miyuu is bedelay.”Ayuu yidhi Guddomiyaha UCID. This guy shoots from the hip, I'm almost certain that's how most secessionist feel, and the hargaisa bombings was the just the excuse they needed.

Originally posted by Ibtisam: This is so sad. There is a regional Youth Organisation?? :eek: I was hoping those young people in the west can be individuals rather than the same old ways. Puntland Youth, somaliland Youth, do they have Clan youth organisations as well?? The youth in the west are just as regionalist as the elders, especially the secessionist 'somaliland' kids, most of them grew up in a cugdad ridden household.

On 11 October 2008, the first students for the new faculty of law commenced their term at Puntland State University, Garowe. Fifty students have enrolled for the first year and 34% of the students are women. Currently, less than 20% of those that work in the courts or the legal profession have any formal legal education in Puntland. The opening of the first law faculty will provide a new generation of qualified legal professionals, which is a great step towards to creating a fair, transparent and accountable justice system for the people of Puntland. The students have started a four year undergraduate programme in secular and sharia law. The current law faculty staff is comprised of a Dean of the faculty, three law lecturers and a faculty assistant. A scholarship programme funded by UNDP has been implemented to promote the attendance of women and minority students to enable them to have an opportunity to study and enter the legal profession. This aspect of the project is particularly important as there are no women working in the legal profession in Puntland. The opening of the law faculty has been a long process which the judiciary project started in 2007 with an assessment to identify a suitable university to partner with. UNDP has entered into a detailed agreement with Puntland State University to open the law faculty and has provided the technical expertise to assist in the recruitment and training of the first law faculty staff and preparation of the legal curriculum, as well as the provision of equipment, books and legal resources. UNDP is also funding the building of the permanent law faculty office buildings and dormitories for the students in order to ensure that students from across Puntland can study in Garowe. An official opening of of the law faculty buildings is planned with donors and government officials for early 2009. Garoweonline

Originally posted by B_G: ^^If the freedom fighters, oops I mean PIRATES, could make a little money from dumping waste in Somalia's ocean- then they wouldn't hesitate to take such an opportunity. They are khat chewing, profiteers, period. Freedom fighters? Those are your words, but I suppose if suicide bombers who stone innocent girls like Al shabab are freedom fighters according to some then perhaps the burcad badeed are freedom fighters as well.