So, you’re now disabled as-well? For the love of Jesus woman; out of all your other silly threads this simply takes the piss.

Picture uno-middle man mhhhhh!!! God bless eye candies

Tsk tsk Old man.

hahahahah Awwww tumhare ladoo hai mein, kise oor nahi hu

Norf- Ya af somali e baray ah? abowo baacdaa hooray baan iskaa fuuraay, luugadee na soobartee. Hayee warka nasiya dee.... Thanagyou btw Juxa- $$$$$

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Waves @ Mpendwa. Guess what nakula mchicha na chapati ya kusukuma leo. Za hali mpenzi?

Malika-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNfvKt2UIIo&feature=channel

Mapepe.

Waad salaamantihiin aqyaarta Troll; bal maxaa isku dacayaa manta. Malikooy- waar baan ku hayaa manta.(where is you?)

hahahahhaahah@Tony Blair did apologised for Slavery back in in 2007?

A Guide to Somali Restaurants in London? It’s that time again; friends want to sample Somali food and god only knows i have no clue. I’ve exhausted Ethiopian/Eritrean restaurants thus can avoid the inevitable. So can you assist by directing me to Somali restaurant? Excluding the Village and Oceans in S’Bush? p.s if you’ve been there before; recommend a dish also. In short give me the whole review. p.s.s am looking for a mix-sex restaurants and not those that places women at the back; as if we’re getting free dish.

Since am already familiar with Jewish laws/particularly how it applies to women; it wasn’t the chained women is now free, that drew me/made me laugh about this article. Not even when i read it on page 20/30 something page of the Independent/ or the no mention of it on other papers. But the thought that -If the woman in Question was Faiza Hamza this would have been front page news with very catchy titles highlighting the savagery that is Islamic law’s to women. And that’s simply hilarious.

We celebrate “marriage” and not singledom, why? When is having a standard equate to being picky? And there is nothing wrong with having one, its women who don’t that leave me gobsmacked. And i also disagree that it creates compliance to being singleton, being single is a life style. Yes for some it’s by circumstances, but for the majority i know it’s a choice. You see its very easy to find someone, one only needs to leave one’s door-step. But to find one who fits in your lifestyle and yes who meets your standards is something altogether different. Hence some women prefer to being single than be shackled up with someone who’s not compatible with them/refuse to give in to societal pressure. And i agree the older you get the easier it gets, because the more headstrong/independent you become, the harder it gets to compromise thus continuing the single-life. BUT is being single such a bad thing? NOT in my books and i never understand the image it conjures up for the majority. Being Single should be celebrated, it’s very liberating. So don’t fear it, enjoy it. Unless you’re one of those who will only marry a Somali men? If that’s the case i say 27 is your cut of point; so make haste. P.S it’s not tricky; they can still have it all. Be 35+, if they were smart enough to have saved some eggs and have the babies of their dream; hell even modify them to their very own specification that is if you have the means. You see advancement of science is a girl best friend. P.S.s why tax yourself? So you disagree with the traditional forms of family, do what you want and what keeps you happy. Conforming to societal expectation is disastrous for individualism. And why be bothered with what others are saying? its stuff like this that sadly for some rushes them into marriage with men they wouldn’t have considered otherwise.

And the plot thickens ....Foreign Office denies knowing about Hamas plot. The Foreign Office dismissed claims that it knew about the Hamas assassination plot in advance as "completely untrue" today. A spokeswoman insisted the department had "no prior knowledge" of the operation or the involvement of cloned British passports. An article in today's Daily Mail featured allegations from a British security source that the Foreign Office had been told Israeli agents were going to carry out "an operation" abroad and would be travelling on British passports. The source told the newspaper he had spoken with an agent from Israeli secret service Mossad - which is suspected of being behind the hit. "He says the British Government was told very, very briefly before the operation what was going to happen," the source reportedly said. "There was no British involvement and they didn't know the name of the target. But they were told these people were travelling on UK passports." The Foreign Office said it only found out about the murder of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in Dubai last month when details appeared in media reports. And the department insisted it was only told that cloned British passports were involved shortly before authorities in the Gulf state went public with the information. "Any suggestion that we knew anything about the murder in Dubai before it happened, including about the misuse of British passports, is completely untrue," the spokeswoman said. "As we have said already, the Dubai authorities told us about the role of British passports on February 15, several hours before their press conference. We told them the following day that the passports used were fraudulent. "The head of the Dubai police has also made clear that embassies were not contacted until shortly before the identity of the suspects was revealed." Dubai police have said that cloned passports belonging to six British Israelis and five Irish citizens were used by a hit squad who allegedly killed the Hamas commander. Shadow foreign secretary William Hague yesterday called for "fuller" answers about when the Foreign Office was aware fake British passports had been used, saying reports in the Gulf suggested British ministers may have been alerted by Dubai authorities last month. "We have had 13 years of the current Government and believing at face value immediately everything they say has not been borne out by experience," he said. He added: "I'm not suggesting complicity with Israel, I simply say there are news reports in the Gulf that this may have been known about by the British Government or other governments at an earlier stage." Foreign Secretary David Miliband branded the abuse of ID documents "outrageous" and demanded that Tel Aviv co-operate fully with the UK's investigation. But after being called in to discuss the situation with officials in London yesterday, Israel's ambassador Ron Prosor flatly denied there was any "additional information" to give. Tel Aviv's ambassador to Ireland, Zion Evrony, delivered a similarly blank message after an hour of discussions with diplomat David Cooney in Dublin. Red notices have been issued via Interpol in the hunt for 11 people allegedly involved in the hit, and the UK's Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca) is also investigating. Senior officers in Dubai say they are "99% certain" that Mossad was behind the murder. Tel Aviv has refused to confirm or deny the link. Dubai yesterday explicitly accused Mossad of assassinating Hamas military commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh on its soil, as David Miliband declared the use of British passports in the plot "an outrage" and demanded "full co-operation" from Israel in finding out what had happened. The Foreign Secretary's comments came after an apparently fruitless meeting in London between the Israeli ambassador Ron Prosor and Sir Peter Ricketts, the permanent secretary who heads Britain's diplomatic service, which lasted just 14 minutes with no sign of any intelligence being shared. As the Israeli envoy left Whitehall, he said: "I was unable to add any information. I could not shed new light on the said matters". There was a similar outcome in Dublin where the Israeli ambassador, Zion Evrony, had an hour's meeting with a senior Irish diplomat over how three Eire passports were used in the assassination. "I told him I know nothing about the event," Mr Evrony said afterwards The international fallout into Mabhouh's death showed no sign of abating. In Paris, the French government also summoned an Israeli diplomat, and Germany – often seen as one of the West European countries most sympathetic to Israel – called on Israel to "provide any information it had which might help explain the circumstances" of the Hamas militant's death. In Dubai, police chief Lt General Dahi Khalfan Tamim told the government-owned National newspaper that it was "99 per cent if not 100 per cent" certain that the Israeli intelligence agency was behind Mabhouh's killing in a luxury hotel room last month. In comments due to be aired on Dubai TV last night, he also called on Interpol to issue "a Red Notice against the head of Mossad... as a killer in case Mossad is proved to be behind the crime, which is likely now". Red Notices are a step short of an international arrest warrant but allow Interpol "to assist national police forces in identifying or locating those persons with a view to their arrest and extradition". There was no immediate comment from Israel in response to the Dubai police chief's claims. Yesterday Interpol published Red Notices for the 11 suspects wanted in connection with the slaying at the Al Bustan Hotel, along with their photographs and "fraudulently used" names on the passports used in order "to limit the ability of the accused murderers from travelling freely using the same false passports", the international anti-crime agency said. Interpol said the notices were not meant to stigmatise those whose identities were stolen, but to help clear them of suspicion by helping police apprehend the true suspects, whose offences are listed as "crimes against life and health". Meanwhile, Hamas leaders yesterday identified the two Palestinian suspects being held by Dubai authorities in connection with the assassination as members of security forces loyal to the Fatah movement of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, implying but not explicitly saying that Fatah collaborated with Israel in carrying out the killing. They named the two as Ahmed Hasanein and Anwar Shehaybar, saying they were Gazans who left the Strip after Hamas seized power from Fatah there in 2007. One of the two is said to have been in contact with a member of the hit squad, "Peter", in the days before the assassination, and both are believed to have been arrested in the Jordanian capital, Amman, before being extradited to Dubai. Responding to the Hamas allegations, Palestinian Authority spokesman Ghassan Khatib said: "We're confident the PA was not involved." In London, Mr Miliband, stressed that the Israeli government had been told of the depth of British concern and insisted that an inquiry by the Serious and Organised Crime Agency ordered by Prime Minister Gordon Brown was not merely "going through the motions". "What the Permanent Secretary made clear is that we hope and expect Israel will co-operate fully with the investigation and to send back to his government the seriousness with which we are addressing this situation. There has obviously been a very serious incident involving British passports and British passport holders who woke up yesterday morning extremely worried. The most important thing is to get to the bottom of the misuse of fraudulent British passports." The Foreign Secretary is expected to discuss the issue with his Israeli counterpart Avigdor Lieberman on Monday when the pair will be in Brussels. Security sources have confirmed that the threatened end to the intelligence sharing between the UK and Israel was yet to materialise. The officials stressed that normal service would continue, unless it was conclusively proven that Mossad had used forged British passports in the murder. God bless Diplomacy. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/foreign-office-denies-knowing-about-hamas-plot-1904708 .html

Longest-serving 'chained wife' finally breaks free after 48 years Susan Zinkin divorced her husband in 1962, but only now is she able to marry again By Jerome Taylor Susan Zinkin divorced her husband in 1962 but was forbidden from looking for new love for almost 50 years. Only when he died an old man this week was she released from being a "chained wife" under Jewish law. Ms Zinkin, 73, a retired Orthodox Jewish teacher from north London, divorced Israel Errol Elias in Britain's civil courts 48 years ago but she was never able to obtain a Jewish divorce (known as a "get") from him. And yesterday she spoke of her relief at finally being freed from her status as the world's longest-serving "chained wife". "As awful as it may sound my ex-husband's death is a great relief and a huge weight off my shoulders – to be stuck like that was so cruel," she said yesterday in an interview with The Independent. "I'm quite convinced that had the rabbis wanted to get their act together they could have done something within Jewish law and found a solution." Related articles More UK News Search the news archive for more stories She had made repeated attempts to get her former husband to grant her a Jewish divorce, which would have allowed her to remarry. She, and many others, even resorted to regular protests outside his house in Golders Green, north London, in a bid to publicly shame him into granting her a religiously sanctioned separation, but the protests only seemed to strengthen his resolve. But despite widespread public outcry, her "agunah" (literally "chained") status remained in force until earlier this week when Mr Elias, 86, died. Speaking from her home in Kfar Saba, near Tel Aviv, Ms Zinkin called on Britain's network of beth dins (Jewish courts) to do more to help chained women and to speak out against husbands who refuse to grant divorces. "The Jewish religious authorities come together to talk about and solve all sorts of religious and social problems but they never seem to get around to discussing [agunahs]," she said. "It is time they did." Under halakha (Jewish law) only men have the power to grant a get. Women who cannot persuade their husbands to free them from marriage become known as "agunahs" or chained wives. Although they are legally divorced under British law, chained wives (particularly those within Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox Jewish communities) often find themselves ostracised if they dare to remarry or speak out. Ms Zinkin, who describes herself as "mainstream Orthodox", said she felt unable to find a new husband because, without a get from her first partner, any new marriage would be considered unlawful by the wider community. Her children – and any of her future offspring – would also be shunned as mamzers, a halakhic term to describe the offspring of adulterous or incestuous relationships. "That's a terrible stigma for the child," she explained. "They're illegitimate for Jewish purposes and I just couldn't do that to any child of mine. Even Jews who aren't very religious wouldn't necessarily want to marry someone and have children born with mamzer status." Attempts by rabbinical authorities to tackle recalcitrant husbands has been met with varying degrees of success. Rabbis from the Liberal and Reform schools of Judaism will often issue gets to women if a husband refuses three times, but the more orthodox branches are notoriously reluctant to intervene, believing that any sort of coercion would invalidate the get. In the United States, some Orthodox rabbis have encouraged the use of pre-nuptial agreements which financially penalise a stubborn husband. Jewish courts in Israel have even gone as far as placing intractable husbands in prison until they grant a get. But campaigners say the Orthodox beth din courts in Britain have been much slower to look for solutions. "It's a very frustrating process," says Sandra Blackman, a co-founder of the Agunot Campaign who regularly used to protest outside Mr Elias's house alongside Ms Zinkin. "We need the Orthodox beth dins to be courageous and recognise the appalling injustices that are being carried out by some husbands. Other countries have found solutions but people seem afraid to implement them here." One academic hoping to find a way out of the impasse is Professor Bernard Jackson, an expert in Jewish law who until last year was head of the Agunah Research Unit at the University of Manchester. Last summer he published proposals which offered courts viable alternatives that still conformed to Jewish law, including the promotion of pre-nuptials, provisional gets that would be issued in advance of marriage, and the retrospective annulment of a marriage by a rabbi. The response from the Orthodox community has been limited. "I can only say that meetings have been initiated, and there clearly is some willingness to look at our work and discuss it with us," he said. "The problem is that batei din are generally reluctant to go out on a limb alone, for fear of appearing 'divisive'. They are looking either for a consensus or for a lead from the greatest rabbinic scholars of the generation." Hopes for such a lead were dashed in 2006 when an international conference to discuss agunahs was called off by Israel's chief rabbi, Shlomo Amar, just five days before it was due to begin. It was widely reported in Israel that pressure from the Ultra-Orthodox community led to the cancellation. "I'm convinced there is a way," said Ms Zinkin. "We need to get all the rabbis together to reach some sort of consensus on how to solve this problem within Jewish law." Until rabbis take a stand, there is little that chained women can do, other than resort to public protests in a bid to shame their former husbands. "I just hit a brick wall and there didn't seem to be anything I could do," she recalled. "I knew I just had to carry on with my life and try to forget about it." Few women dare to speak out about their agunah status for fear of reducing their chances of ever obtaining a get, or because they are worried about how the community might react to such public criticism. Ms Zinkin did speak out. By the end of the 1990s she was approached by a small group of Jewish women who, like her, had either been or still were chained women. The first the mainstream press in Britain heard about agunahs was when a devoted band of Jewish women bewildered north London motorists with regular protests outside Mr Elias's home in Golders Green, calling on him to free his wife. Week after week they met outside his home but Mr Elias dug his heels in. The public coverage of the protests did, however, spur the rabbinical authorities into trying to persuade Mr Elias. "Prior to [those protests] the Jewish authorities hadn't even been prepared to make a phonecall or approach him in any way," she said. "Whenever I approached Jewish judges they just said they couldn't do anything. So the protests might not have worked in my case, but they did with others." The demonstrations also thrust the issue firmly into the wider public's consciousness: "People just didn't realise that this sort of thing can drag on for so many years. When I told people what had happened they were absolutely stunned that you can be an agunah in Britain for more than 40 years. I just hope I'm the last of a long line of agunahs." For the meantime, Ms Zinkin is happy just to reflect on the fact that – for the first time in nearly five decades – she is officially free. "I suppose it is a bit of a record but it's not exactly one I'm proud to hold," she said. "I'm just glad it's finally over. I feel a great sense of relief, but also sadness because it was all so unnecessary. I just hope that other men will think twice about the enormous distress they can cause by not granting their wife a get." http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/longestserving-chained-wife-finally-breaks-free-after -48-years-1904136.html

And when was the last time you set down and asked a Somali woman whether her husband fulfilled her sexual needs?

Ibti- No, nothing like that for me.

Shako shakooo- coming out of my nose. To many deadlines and here I am yabbing away. Mhh I’m now fantasizing about being a woman of leisure. Capitalise on my feminine attributed and snatch myself a rich husband and spend the rest of my days engaged in trivial activities like abstract painting. Mhh. How I hate being in a permanent state of shako’ ness. (If that’s even a word) Someone going somwhere?

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Haa!! Interesting how you’ve turned that into something else.

Patrick Pakenham, who has died aged 68, was a talented barrister and the second son of the 7th Earl and Countess of Longford; highly intelligent, articulate and possessed of an attractive and powerful voice, Pakenham could have attained great professional heights, but his boisterous nature and bouts of mental illness rendered it impossible for him to adhere to the routine required to sustain his position at the Bar, and he retired after 10 years' practice. During his legal career, Pakenham became something of a legend, and, 25 years on, accounts of his exploits are still current. During his appearance before an irascible and unpopular judge in a drugs case, the evidence, a bag of cannabis, was produced. The judge, considering himself an expert on the subject, said to Pakenham, with whom he had clashed during the case: "Come on, hand the exhibit up to me quickly." Then he proceeded to open the package. Inserting the contents in his mouth, he chewed it and announced: "Yes, yes of course that is cannabis. Where was the substance found, Mr Pakenham?" The reply came swiftly, if inaccurately: "In the defendant's anus, my Lord." Pakenham's final appearance in court has been variously recorded. As defence counsel in a complicated fraud case, he was due to address the court during the afternoon session, and had partaken of a particularly well-oiled lunch. "Members of the jury," he began, "it is my duty as defence counsel to explain the facts of this case on my client's behalf; the Judge will guide you and advise you on the correct interpretation of the law and you will then consider your verdict. Unfortunately," Pakenham went on, "for reasons which I won't go into now, my grasp of the facts is not as it might be. The judge is nearing senility; his knowledge of the law is pathetically out of date, and will be of no use in assisting you to reach a verdict. While by the look of you, the possibility of you reaching a coherent verdict can be excluded." He was led from the court. Patrick (always known as Paddy) Maurice Pakenham was born on April 17 1937, the third of the eight children of Francis (Frank) Pakenham and his wife Elizabeth (later the Earl and Countess of Longford). Frank Longford was variously an Oxford don, a Labour minister, a City banker, and an outspoken campaigner for penal reform. His wife was a noted historical biographer. Three of Paddy's siblings, Thomas Pakenham (who succeeded to the earldom in 2001), Lady Antonia Fraser and Lady Rachel Billington, are successful authors, while another sister, Judith Kazantzis, is a poet. Of his two younger brothers, Sir Michael Pakenham, a diplomat, was the Ambassador to Poland from 2001-2003, and Kevin Pakenham is an investment banker. A fourth sister, Catherine, died in a motor accident in 1969. His parents converted to Catholicism in the 1940s, so Paddy, who remained a devout Catholic, and his brothers were sent to Ampleforth. He then took up a place at Magdalen College, Oxford, and was called to the Bar in 1958. Pakenham had an exceptional memory and could be wise and compassionate. It was thought that his tendency to manic depression, which required occasional admission to nursing homes, may have had its origins in two unconnected events. At the aged of 17 he suffered a nervous breakdown, a result of the ruthless treatment meted out to officer cadets in the first six weeks of his national service. In his mid-twenties his mental state was further damaged by a boating tragedy off the Sussex coast. Pakenham survived, behaving with exemplary courage, but two of his closest friends perished. Notwithstanding all this, whilst at the Bar, he became a proficient golfer, on one occasion winning the Bar Golf Tournament at Rye. From 1962 he was a colourful member of the exclusive but mercifully unpompous Sunningdale Golf Club, where he triumphed in the Founder's Foursomes. In his autobiography, the golfer Sam Torrance described how Pakenham "would always be turning up wearing different coloured socks or different shoes or even no socks at all. His trousers would be held up by a tie instead of a belt. Paddy once told me I would never make it on Tour unless I improved my short irons. He was dead right." Pakenham made several attempts to rejoin the Bar, at last persuading someone to offer him a place in chambers. Pakenham was treated to a homily on ethics and the standards of behaviour to which he was expected to adhere. But the following day, Pakenham's first in his new place of work, was interrupted by the arrival of two burly policemen, who then proceeded to lead the head of chambers away in handcuffs. Paddy Pakenham's outstanding gift was for loyalty and friendship, and he had countless friends in all walks of life. Whilst he could be a tremendous attention-seeker, he was also generous and loving, and created an atmosphere of immense gaiety wherever he went. All his friends were tolerant of his erratic behaviour, which was also the source of much of his charm. He had been suffering from cancer and died on June 8. An unexpected but entirely happy consequence of one of his bouts of exuberance was that he married his nurse, Mary Plummer. This union, which led to a divorce and then re-marriage, yielded three sons, Richard, Guy and Harry, to all of whom Pakenham was a devoted father. Latterly, he found love and companionship with Dominique De Borchgrave, a Belgian countess resident in London.

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10yrs ago.

Here here@ that. Ibti now stop bursting our bubble of joy. p,s Yes they do @Ibti Well hello Juxa & welcome. P.s My dear I’m nothing but a forward thinker, especially my BIG SEND OFF. I’ve been planning mine/thinking about it since I got hooked on Obs.