hahahahahhhahaahaha suxeeey ibti lol subxanallah wth @ "We are currently unsure of the reason behind this" i knw whts behind it, maskiinta could not succumb to the idea that scarface will choose me, so she killed herself..... silly chit if only she waited 1hr she would have found out that indeed scarface wants only her...

lol sacr u choosing me is an insult so i am not that much botherd lakiin dont u knw we gals stick 2gether like glue. ps so sacr does this mean ibti is the number one lady now..... huraaah huraaaah 2that so when is the wedding, how many kids u guys planning 2 have ohh i have to find a gogaraad now also for my dirac lol. jacl ure so slow dont quite ure day job anytime soon sweety since u cant even hack this love doc title

come on ibti am not lol with him am lol at him and the sheer audacity of it... so sit tight gal and lets enjoy the advice and here what would jacl advice be to a man in dreamland.

cusband waar wait 1 i want to hear jacl advice 1, come on now jacl i am waiting this is funny... mhhh coffee

<<<<<< burnd her mouth with coffee after reading that hahahah@scar

yawning i need coffee! brb anyone wants coffee or tea lol ps jack ure mate pulled a runner now, ibti yes darling u can be sold just like kunta kenti

lol hahahah@scarface u have been lisening 2 lost boys way to much i say, i am in love with 2 woman kulaha... lol but i shall advice u now ibti is the best option she can do things i cant .... (stop thinking dirty)

alaa this is boring now aqaas since i dont believe in this shidh aka love anyway i find talking abt it is makng me sour now... ps jacl+ ibti y dont u tell uz whts the most embarrassing thing that ever happend 2 u guys?

do tell now no need to be shy...

morning sweety how u on this lovely dayyyyyy.... ps come on now ibti do tell us abt the time u where talefoning the bloke in somalia where ure shukansi lasted for 3yrs bef u found out that he was married man.

ohh obbz i fgt i am not meant to tell people that uz shukansing me lol hahahahahaahah maskiin captain dont worry i am sure this latest revelation will only incr ure chances of scoring with the ladies now. dont u knw a taken man always becomes attractive to the opp sex?

captain me a talefone shukansi veteran? hahahah come come now u knw just coz i spend 4hrs a day talking 2 u on the talefone does no = veteraniimo. hunguri and jacl are on another leg already i simply cant compete with those.

why the devil u, i guess u even got ure intended victim on stand by? lol captain then please become the blogger who informs us on how talephone shukansi takes place and develops. ps jacl stop lol yaroo, captain make sure u move from pay as u go 1 dee, coz i hear fone shukansi can last for hrs and days.

why captain will i be right to assume then that indeed u have u been there, done it got the tshirt for it? :rolleyes:

"cynical lol sis ...nothing is wrong w/ talking 2 some one on the phone and falling in luv ...cuz to think about it, real luv isnt based on looks ...it is more of that person's personality and what not that is going to bridge the gap and bring u 2 closer.....but hey Jacalybaro meet her dee dont be waiting . Looks like jacaylbaro is in luv ... " Come on now sis real love? Does such thing as loves even exists or are u simply deluding ureself? By the by look does matter we all know that one must see the goods before one purchase them, so same theory applies here I say...personality rates second on must have list. I think Somalis resort to such means due to the fact they have less venues of meeting other Somalis ie weddings rate as the highest meeting ground (simply makes me lol and remind me or pride and prejudice) so I guess they resort to telephone and cyber world.

Yes I do believe that once an individual accepts democracy then one is enlightened. But I also do need u to explain to be what u means by democracy, because democracy is a very inconsistent concept, which means various things to various people in various circumstances. As evidence shows through out history it has been used by governments to serve there political interest but that does not mean they are indeed a democratic state. If we accept the classic definition of democracy i.e. governments by the people, were the majority rule and supreme power is held by the majority. Then its fairs to say majority of the western states are not indeed democratic, as Aristotle once said “ in a democratic country the poor will have power than the rich, because there many of them and they will be the majority supreme” since such is not the case and we constantly see governments disregarding the majority view and their more influenced by their own interest and the minority pressure groups i.e. be trade unions etc furthermore they have managed to place there citizens on a constant fear bubble while they erode there civil liberties and influence there decision making power do come the election date. I believe this is oppression in new shape, so cambaro when u say the good thing about democracy is it has managed to make the politicians afraid of oppressing its own people I rebut that, I mean one only has to look at the current situation i.e. Blaire refusing to acknowledge the million people petition against road charge, the million people who voted against the going into Iraq. Politicians don’t fear their people I believe they have succeeded in raising the common man threshold of tolerance and power is ultimately at the politicians now which in true democracy such should not be the case i.e. they should fear us not the other way around. Countries that are governed or rules by the rich as Plato defined is oligarchy democracy and I don’t believe such democracy exist in this day an age anyway, so am I safe to assume cambaro when u talk about the western countries being rich and mighty and supreme idea youre not drawing analogy to this form of democracy? Also am I right to assume that you are saying that democracy and morality cant stand side by side, but former deminishes the other? Because I fundamentality believe that’s they do indeed stand side by side if true democracy is achieved, since democracy upholds the will of the majority and its those majority morals that will be embeded in one country. Morals comes from variouse places if youre talking about the ones aserted by reliegions then yes they will be upheld in a country where the majority come from that specific reliegion ie there is uninimouse code of conduct. But does this make the west least moral I don’t think so. As for this argument “In democracies, families are breaking down, children are neglected, sexual perversions are widespread.” Come on now cambaro. We know Somalis have also a high number of family breakdown and they do neglect there kids whom they send them packing to some distant relative with the hope of them taking care of there offspring’s, as for sexual perversions come on now…. You can blame this on democracy, when democracy has nothing to do with it for start it does not even play a role into it. Furthermore, I disagree on the fact democracy leads to self-destruction of the culture… but I want u if its possible to explain to me how did u get to this conclusion? By the by democracy did not cause the Roman Empire to decline. As for my opinion I simply believe that there has never been a nation or state that has fully achieved democracy, due to the fact democracy is constant evolving philosophy that change with time, people, circumstances and a lot of the western countries do aspire to achieve it but that does not necessarily means they have achieved it. The problem with striving for democracy is capitalism gets in the way and this is when things start getting blurred, western state have only recently stumbled on democracy and there still trying to find a balance and since human nature is greedy such is proving difficulty. But the west have come close to democracy and for that I say it’s a step towards enlightenment, west values individual and collective opinions, upholds human rights this are some of the many fundamental principles that are embedded in the western philosophy and we see that on daily basis, other government don’t even give its civilians the chance to simply discuss an idea let alone engage in public gatherings to demonstrate against there governments and that’s says a lot about the west than its counterparts. One only needs to ask oneself what is the opposite of democracy and would they like to belong to such state? As for you saying that you are advocating against Islamic states please gal Islamic states don’t have democracy let alone allow its people to have free voice in their governments. Pray do tell what Islamic country are u talking about? Because they have the highest number of human rights violations and they ranking high on the oppression of the civilians, a lot of this countries are not ruling under sheria law hence they are not deserving of an Islamic state title. We all know through out the industrialization and colonialism Islamic law was replaced with common law, French law etc and prior it was there Islamic public law that was eroded and now even private law is eroded.. There all hybrid law not fully Islamic so u cant compare there conduct with a western country should u choose to draw analogy to Islamic state (hybrid law countries) u stand a better chance reviewing it with another hybrid law state not with a western country. “the electoral process is one of the biggest problems with Democracy, as elections become a testament not to strenght of ideas but of how much money someone has to get elected. This puts national policy in the hands of the wealthy or the most committed, active special interest group.” Ohh do come on its quite insulting to suggest the majority of the people when they get to the polls they are going to be swayed by the adverts? No some people do actually look into the referendums the political parties produce I mean come on even now at the current state if we follow the current findings produced yesterday labour is trailing behind the conservatives and this shows dissatisfactions and people executing there fundamental right. They are waiting for the general election to VOTE.

ohh this is so 90s thing i mean people back then even developed to arose via telephone where the man is in urub and the woman is in Africa. :rolleyes: ps i know for a fact phone shukansi is the main type of shukansi when it comes to somali people and i simply cant understand it, i mean surely u need to meet the person y talk to them for 6months or 3weeks if there is a big chance in meeting them u might not find the other person remotly attractive y waste u credit, time, and undergo all that phone fakeness? why ohh well i shall never understand i guess jacl i dont to give tips when i need to understand first y do people do it? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

my comp says No 2 to that site@ dabshid

so what do u mean then hunguri when u say u will not let ure wife engage in family planning?

hunguri so are u telling me u want ure wife to pop them kids like like a vending machine?

ibti were u eating chicken then? lol

jacl i dont want to use that love cal things its heartbreaking u knw... jacl y dont u open a topic for us trollers so we can talk abt anything and everything without killing of other ppls topics... ps ibti, hungur, jacl do come up with something 2 talk abt.

hunguri nasty shame on u ... alaa can we get a tobic now am kinda bored at work and suffering from flu.

alaa rajabetoo of the year ohhh am so touched thank u thank u thank u!! so whats the other thing then?

ibti the love cal said me and u dont communicate enough and we dont spend time 2gether thats y,....