Originally posted by Ahmed_Guree: ^^^ If you go to rome do as the romans do So if you go to Konfuur you are Somali And If you go to Woqoyi you damn better be Ethiopian Iam always Somali to reer Konfuur & Ethiopian to Reer Woqoyi. [/quote Ahmed_Guree you are telling us that you are not a citizen of Southern or Northern of Somalia but you have received a different status from Southern than Nothern thus you become Somali that way. the idea of Somaliweyn had collapsed for the past fifty years. Even if it did, it remained the hearts and minds of handsfull people in Somalia such as Hassan Turki not his greatest ally Hassan Dahir Aweys. Do the math, Ahmed_Guree!

Originally posted by Ahmed_Guree: ^^^ Dude your folks were non existant during that period. anyway you guys are too poor that xasiidnimo makes you burn a Somali. Listen when the ICU wack you folks We Ethiopians will not accept refugees into our territory Thanks Sharif_seylaci exposing Ahmed_Guree's unholy support to ICU. thanks Kamalu Diin

Originally posted by Kamalu Diin: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/11/MNGBRMAK351.DTL ] Hamas to end rule to get aid flowing Prime minister says he'll resign, let new government form - Ian Fisher, New York Times Saturday, November 11, 2006 (11-11) 04:00 PST Gaza City, Gaza Strip -- Hamas committed Friday to folding its eight-month government if that would restore the international assistance that was cut off after it won national elections earlier this year. Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas said he would probably resign in the next two or three weeks to make way for a national unity government more acceptable to international donors than his party. The United States, the European Union and other donors have cut off aid to the Palestinian Authority because of Hamas' hard-line anti-Israel stance. "When they put the siege on one hand, and having me the prime minister on the other, I said, 'No: Let us end the siege, and let us end the suffering of the Palestinian people,' " Haniyeh told worshipers at Friday prayers. It was a public acknowledgment that Haniyeh and his government would soon be replaced by a "unity" government of technocrats, currently being negotiated with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas refused to meet the three conditions set out by donors: to recognize the right of Israel to exist, to forswear violence and to accept previous Palestinian-Israeli agreements that imply a two-state solution. In addition to the withheld aid, Israel has refused to turn over more than $50 million a month in taxes and customs collected for the Palestinians. Israeli officials have said they would not hand over the money they collect to a Palestinian government, led by anyone, that merely fudges the conditions. Haniyeh's speech marked a symbolic public moment: an acknowledgment of the difficulties Hamas faced, internally and with the outside world, as it tried to move from fighting to governing. But it remains unclear whether his stated intentions could restart the flow of aid. "We will not compromise," he told worshipers. "We are going ahead with a government that will not give political compromises." For months, Hamas has been in negotiations with Fatah, the party led by Abbas, to form a national unity government of professionals and technocrats not immediately beholden to any faction. In recent days, those talks seem to have picked up steam, and Haniyeh's announcement offered a sign of hope that they may succeed. Haniyeh said that he expected more talks next week and that "within two or three weeks, we will announce joyful news." In theory, such a government would be able to win back international aid that paid about half of the $165 million the Palestinian Authority needs every month to pay salaries and operating expenses, with the money the Israelis collect on behalf of the Palestinians making up a part of the remainder. Even so, the Palestinian government was running a deficit. Page A - 3

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/11/MNGBRMAK351.DTL ] Hamas to end rule to get aid flowing Prime minister says he'll resign, let new government form - Ian Fisher, New York Times Saturday, November 11, 2006 (11-11) 04:00 PST Gaza City, Gaza Strip -- Hamas committed Friday to folding its eight-month government if that would restore the international assistance that was cut off after it won national elections earlier this year. Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas said he would probably resign in the next two or three weeks to make way for a national unity government more acceptable to international donors than his party. The United States, the European Union and other donors have cut off aid to the Palestinian Authority because of Hamas' hard-line anti-Israel stance. "When they put the siege on one hand, and having me the prime minister on the other, I said, 'No: Let us end the siege, and let us end the suffering of the Palestinian people,' " Haniyeh told worshipers at Friday prayers. It was a public acknowledgment that Haniyeh and his government would soon be replaced by a "unity" government of technocrats, currently being negotiated with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas refused to meet the three conditions set out by donors: to recognize the right of Israel to exist, to forswear violence and to accept previous Palestinian-Israeli agreements that imply a two-state solution. In addition to the withheld aid, Israel has refused to turn over more than $50 million a month in taxes and customs collected for the Palestinians. Israeli officials have said they would not hand over the money they collect to a Palestinian government, led by anyone, that merely fudges the conditions. Haniyeh's speech marked a symbolic public moment: an acknowledgment of the difficulties Hamas faced, internally and with the outside world, as it tried to move from fighting to governing. But it remains unclear whether his stated intentions could restart the flow of aid. "We will not compromise," he told worshipers. "We are going ahead with a government that will not give political compromises." For months, Hamas has been in negotiations with Fatah, the party led by Abbas, to form a national unity government of professionals and technocrats not immediately beholden to any faction. In recent days, those talks seem to have picked up steam, and Haniyeh's announcement offered a sign of hope that they may succeed. Haniyeh said that he expected more talks next week and that "within two or three weeks, we will announce joyful news." In theory, such a government would be able to win back international aid that paid about half of the $165 million the Palestinian Authority needs every month to pay salaries and operating expenses, with the money the Israelis collect on behalf of the Palestinians making up a part of the remainder. Even so, the Palestinian government was running a deficit. Page A - 3

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/11/MNGBRMAK351.DTL ] Hamas to end rule to get aid flowing Prime minister says he'll resign, let new government form - Ian Fisher, New York Times Saturday, November 11, 2006 (11-11) 04:00 PST Gaza City, Gaza Strip -- Hamas committed Friday to folding its eight-month government if that would restore the international assistance that was cut off after it won national elections earlier this year. Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas said he would probably resign in the next two or three weeks to make way for a national unity government more acceptable to international donors than his party. The United States, the European Union and other donors have cut off aid to the Palestinian Authority because of Hamas' hard-line anti-Israel stance. "When they put the siege on one hand, and having me the prime minister on the other, I said, 'No: Let us end the siege, and let us end the suffering of the Palestinian people,' " Haniyeh told worshipers at Friday prayers. It was a public acknowledgment that Haniyeh and his government would soon be replaced by a "unity" government of technocrats, currently being negotiated with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas refused to meet the three conditions set out by donors: to recognize the right of Israel to exist, to forswear violence and to accept previous Palestinian-Israeli agreements that imply a two-state solution. In addition to the withheld aid, Israel has refused to turn over more than $50 million a month in taxes and customs collected for the Palestinians. Israeli officials have said they would not hand over the money they collect to a Palestinian government, led by anyone, that merely fudges the conditions. Haniyeh's speech marked a symbolic public moment: an acknowledgment of the difficulties Hamas faced, internally and with the outside world, as it tried to move from fighting to governing. But it remains unclear whether his stated intentions could restart the flow of aid. "We will not compromise," he told worshipers. "We are going ahead with a government that will not give political compromises." For months, Hamas has been in negotiations with Fatah, the party led by Abbas, to form a national unity government of professionals and technocrats not immediately beholden to any faction. In recent days, those talks seem to have picked up steam, and Haniyeh's announcement offered a sign of hope that they may succeed. Haniyeh said that he expected more talks next week and that "within two or three weeks, we will announce joyful news." In theory, such a government would be able to win back international aid that paid about half of the $165 million the Palestinian Authority needs every month to pay salaries and operating expenses, with the money the Israelis collect on behalf of the Palestinians making up a part of the remainder. Even so, the Palestinian government was running a deficit. Page A - 3

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Originaly posted by Socod_badne "There are only two political currencies in Somalia: Islam and Clanism. Somalis don't know any better than these two. Support or opposition to the UIC depends which side one comes down on." _________________________________________________ Do you realy believe that ICU gained the power through recognized or accepted standards or principles. Or gained through tribal politics; I don't have problem with even if ICU uses tribal politics as long as it applied accordingly, but enjoying tribal benifits while denying its use. ICU never explained the formula it used for Shura members. check this out. what does this tell you? web page

Originaly posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar "I am no friend of wadaada ku sheega, but this is too much. Waaay off the comparison radar." And Caydiid being a "mahdi?" Intee ku maqashay dadka saas aaminsanaa? I have met many of Aideed supporters in different places, and each one of them told me that Aideed had some supernatural power in his heyday. Believe me or not, this is what I have come acrross. Somalia is experiencing the same thing now. People are not questioning the ICU, and I am surprised about that. Thanks for wellcoming me here

I believe that ICU has a lot of similarities with SNA. While Ina Caydiid use to claim that he was answer to the problems that existed at the time, as a lot of his supporters even believed more than that,MAHDI sent to Somalia by Allah.