Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Djabouti is a small player that would not exst if it was not for the French and now US bank rolling it. A Somali sister nation, but an imprtan player in the Horn.. Temporarily important, due to the absence of Somalia Republic.

I hope that he is not upto something wrong.

dabagaale aar dila ma aragteen wiil yaroo wiil weyn dila ma aragteen Djabuti Soomaali kabadisay ma aragteen (even soccer) Djabuti is using us (Somalians) as stepping stone for political gain that is all. We know that, and it will fail.

I am for Somaliland, puntland, Jubaland, hiiraanland, and Arlaadiland, and I am also anti union, anti domination, anti centralization, anti USC/ICU, and finally anti Somalidoon just like you.

Don't blame me believing self-determination is only way out of existing problems, and believing USC as the mother of all Somalia's disintegration. History will tell that!!!

Originally posted by Ahmed_Guree: ^^^ You mean the 5 culprits who were killed by Horns ICU compatriots when they tried to flee. Dhig magaca, and reveal yourself Ethiopian somalidoon

Enemy that you don't know is lot worest than enemy that you know. USC and Ethiopia is known enemies, and the ICU at this time we Somalian where ever we are call it not known enemy till it comes to our doorsteps and then we call it USC as it has been revealed in Kismayu/Sh.hoose. only support they have are Somalidoon just like you and Djabutians.

Mr. Red Sea Ahmed-Guree is unstopable foreigner/Somali kusheeg!! remaining

Originally posted by Ahmed_Guree: ^^^ Horn are you conscious? Last time i heard of C/Waaq 13 MR were killed by Ethios under the name of ONLF. So it seems that the Ethio bullet is more welcome in C/Waaq than the Gaashan(ICU) Horn is conscious, and what else would you like to see happening when he was humitated and his fellow people were killed in Bu'ale by USC/ICU?

Well done, ka naxoo nafta waa!!! Every community, city, or state of Somalia has a right to self-determination.

Menez is totally different breed than Ethiopians, and lately ICU/USC's propanda war have taken a toll of his sincerety, Let me explain to you Menez attempted to unite Somali seven times and no other Arabworld leader including so called sister country keep up with that amount of time and resources. Viva Menez, Viva Menez. Menez is a product of Somalia, and his only wishing is to see Somalia pre-civilwar state. Ethiopian, on other hand, I am not going to be united with, but I will let Menez be in charge of Ethiopia including you. Ahmed-Guree stay away from Somalia and its landers affairsrs because it doesn't concern you!!!!!!!!

I am with A/yusuf for the time being, because his enemies are my enemies ICU, USC, and Somali pretenders just like Djabutians and Ethiopians. Menez is more sincere then Geele in the eyes of real Somalians. let me explain to you again Somali is united under equality 4.5, and federalism which both are anti USC/ICU power mongers.

Ethiopians and Djabutians are uniting us while dividing us. That is myth!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know where you (Djib-somali and ahmed_guree) are getting the citizenship because Ahemd-Guree earlier said that he is an Ethiopian and he doesn't like to wellcome somali refugees, likewise Djabuti has been a hostile to Somalia Refugees for the last twenty-three years. the only way you can be a citizen is throught the eye of ICU/USC as you already mentioned and my response it still the same "the idea of Somaliweyn had collapsed for the past fifty years" by the way, I did not say people of Awdal are not somali citizens, or TFG (NOT TNG) is Siyad Bare's remnents, as you know TFG is based on 4.5 and all are somalians. Let me repeat to you again Siyad Bare's remnents are A/Y, Jees, Bare Hiiraale, let me know if you need addition info I am glad to provide you.

Djib-somali is Friend Or Foe? I guess he is Foe, just like his uncle Geele because he is the one who is making the connections for the ICU and subjugating the rest of somalis, where ever they are including Somalilanders, under Abdikhasim Salad Hassan and his party ICU. We Somalians will choose our president not Djabutians' dream president Abdikhasim Salaad Xassan!!! If Djabuti is not an enemy then who else fits that category!! I am going to tell you Enough is enough stop what you are doing or otherwise you will face reality.

Originally posted by Allamagan: Haddii reer Caabudwaaq aay iskood (without xoog) u qaataan filimaanta maxkamadaha Xamar then wax walba Somalia waa suurto gal. RAggasi waa rag reer mudug ah, you cant sell to them that easy! so haddii aay marto then Puntland Somaliland xattaa Jabuuti waa imaane. laa mushkilo waaye! Allamagan: if Caabudwaaq buys that then waaba sixran yihiin; tani mid caadi ah maba aha. Hadeer bay aheed markii dhaawacooda lagu laayey Bu'aale.

Alle-ubaahne; I think that GalMudug is far ahead then most of ICU followers because they know what is ICU is calling for is trap and no one is going to buy that, at this time. Everybody knows that ICU is using same millitia of Ex-warlords, and only changes are few days of Dhaqancellin. Everybody knows that ICU is on the offense side and using force to reach to top without exploring other alternatives. Everybody knows that ICU is exlusively made of one clan.

How can anybody be authoritive without crashing others including brothers. Go ICU Go!!!!!!!!!! waxba ha iga siin wax aad xoog ku keento. Kalfadhigii labaad ee gobolaha baarlamaanka dawlada goboleedka Galmudug State oo maantay ka furmay magaalada gaalkacyo ee xarunta gobolka Mudug. Hobyonet. Muqdisho. Talaado,Nav 14,2006 Kalfadigaan oo ay goob joog ka ahaayeen 14 xildhibaan oo ka mid ah xiladhibaanada 21ka ah ee uu ka kooban yahay golaha baarlamaanka ee dawlad goboleedka Galmudug ayaa waxaa shir gudoominaayey gudoomiye ku xigeenka golaha baarlamaanka Dr.Xasan Macallin Yuusuf kaan oo looga doodayey arimaha nabadgalayo iyo xaaladaha cusub ee ku soo kordhay deegaanada Galmudug State. Dood dheer iyo falanqeyn ka dib ayaa golaha baarlamaanka waxa ay ka soo saareen kulankooda maantay qodabo ay ka mid yihiin. iyadoo la qiimaynayo xaalada colaadeed ka aloolsan deegaana Galmudug degmooyinkiisa ee lagu qabsaday xooga in ay soo galaan madaxda dawlada iyo xubnaha wasiirada ee dalka dibadiisa ku maqan si loo badbaadiyo dalka iyo dadka. Waxaan baaq nabadeed u soo jeedinaynaa maxkamadaha islaamiga in ay ka baxaan deegaanada Galmudug ee ay xooga ku qabsadeen. Waxaan dadweynaha reer Galmudug ku wargalinaynaa inay difaacaan diintooda,dalkooda iyo dadkooda, kana difaacaan huwanta gardarada ugu soo duushay oo ay ka mid yihiin Eretareeyaanka iyo Tigreega. Waxaan kaloo baaq u soo jeedinaynaa hay’addaha samafalka inay naga caawiyaan barakaca ka dhacay magaalooyinka Galisoor,Bandiiradleey,Sadex-Higlo,Dagaari, iyo gobolka Hobyo iyo deegaano kale oo farabadan. Kalfadhigaan ayaa waxa uu ku soo beegmay xilli ay qadka duulimaadka ee ka imaan jiray dalka keynya ay xaniban tahay taasina ay dhalin karto in uu dib u dhac ku yimaado xubnaha sar sare ee dawlad goboleedka Galmudug ee ku maqan dalka dibadihiisa in ay mudooyinkaas ku soo galaan wadanka. Max’ed Vimto,Galkacyo,Mudug,Somalai. Vimto83@hotmail.com Kullan ay maanta isugu yimaadeen Culluma’udiinka Dariiqada Ahlu Sunna Waljameeca,Odaayaasha Dhaqanka,Nabadoonada ee ku abtirsada Maamul Goboleedka Galmudug ayaa soo saaray baaq ay u jeedinayaan Maamulka Goboleedka Puntland,Dawlada federaalka,iyo Beesha Caalamkaba. Hobyonet. Muqdisho. Isniin,Nav 13,2006 Kulankan oo ay soo qabanqaabiyeen odoyaasha dhaqanka ,nabadoonada iyo Culumaa,udiinka ahlu-sunna wal-jamaaca ayaa waxaa ay gaarayeen ilaa iyo 30-Xubnood oo ka kooban dhamaan qaybaha kala gadisan ee aan kor kusoo sheegnay. Shirkaan ayaa waxaa ay ujeedadiisu ahayd baaq ay u jeedinayaan maamul-goboleedka pumtland,dowladda federaalka kumeel gaarka ah, jaaliyadaha dibedda, iyo beesha caalamkaba ,Waxayna ka codsadeen in la taageero maamul-goboleedka Gal-mudug State oo ay sheegeen in uu la mid yahay maamulada Puntland, Somaliland . Waxaana ugu horayn halkaasi ka hadlay –Nabadoon Yuusuf xaashi cilmi (qabax) oo ku hadlayey magaca odayaasha dhaqanka Waxa uuna dhaliil weyn usoo jeediyey Jen, Cadde Muuse oo uu sheegay in uu raali galin kabixiyo hadalkii uu jeediyey oo ahaa in uusan aqoonsanayn maamulkiisu kan Gal-mudug-state. Sidoo kale waxaa isna halkaasi ka hadlay Shiikh c/llaahi cali Gurey oo isugu si weyn u qiiraysnaa isla markaana si weyn u weeraray Maxaakiimta islaamiga ah oo uu sheegay in ay yihiin Jabhad ku qaraabata diinta islaamka ee aysan ahayn niman diinta matala. Shiikhu waxa uu ugu baaqay MMI in ay dib uga noqdaan deegaanadii ay kasoo duuleen hadii kale ay cawaaqib xumo kala kulmi doonaan. Gabagabadii shirkaasi oo ku dhamaaday jawi wanaagsan ayaa mas,uuliyiintii halkaasi ka hadashay waxa ay ugu baaqeen beesha caalamka iyo dowladda federaalka ah in ay aqoonsadaan maamulkooda oo ay sheegeen in uu ku yimid rabitaanka shacabka u dhashay ayna gacan wayn ka siiyaan dhinacyada amaanka ,dhaqaalaha, iyo nabad galyadaba. Max’ed Vimto,Galkacyo,Mudug,Somalai. Vimto83@hotmail.com

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: LoooooL....I just wanna how Barre's remnants look like, so I will know when I meet one. Dis reminds of me of Oodweyne's "defeated lot"...very therapeutic for some I guess Siyad Bare's remnants are those kicked out from Mogadishu by the clan-courts (USC), Siyad Bare's discent category including A/Y!!!

Ahmed_Guree thanks for explaining to me that, and I do appreciate that.

Originally posted by HornAfrique: Siad Barre's remnants? Where does anything you have posted hint clan? Or Siad Barre's remnants are the only users of khat and cigarettes in Kismaayo? Or they are they are the farmers who have been affected by the flooding in the countryside near Kismaayo? Seems like you do not have their concern at heart but more like trying to embarrass them. HornAfrique I don't know if you are paying attention to the fall of Kismayu into the hands of ICU. I come across many times that the ICU reffering the protestors against the ICU presence as Khat dealers; in addition to that farmers are also inhabitants since 1991. I is a clear to me that one else but the their oppositions. get it- then who are the oppositions?. To me the oppositions are those people who stood up against the USC aggression/sweep thus Siyad Bare's remnants.

Last Updated Wed, Nov, 15 2006,08:30 am--Mogadishu Somalia Gargaar la geeyay xeryaha dadka soo barakacay ee Kismayo Kismaayo 15, Nov.06 ( Sh.M.Network) Raashimo mucaawino ah ayaa loo qeybiyay dadka soo barakacay ee magaalada Kismaayo xilli dadkaasi ay ka cabanayeen dhibaatooyin dhinaca nolosha ah. Maxkamadaha islaamka Somalia ayaa raashimo kiilaad ah iyo Timir ka qeybiyay xerayaha dadka soo barakacay ee magaalada Kismaayo, xilli dadkaasi ay heysatay dhibaatooyin dhinaca nolosha ah. Dadka soo barakacay ee ku nool magaalada Kismaayo ayaa waxa ay ka cabanayaan hooy xumo xilli ay da'ayaan roobab lixaad leh oo geysanaya daadad iyo fatahaado wabiga uu sameeyo. Kaalmada dadkaan ay gaarsiiyeen maxkamadaha islaamka oo aan aheyn mid ku fulin ayaa waxa ay ugu baaqeen hay'adaha samafalka in ay la soo gaaraan gargaar bani aadnimo. Dhinaca kale Caruur fara badan ayaa cudurka Maleeriyada kula ildaran deegaano ka tirsan gobolka Sh/hoose oo dhowaan roobaab ay ka da'een. Farxaan Lafoole Shabelle Media Network J/hoose E-mail us: info@shabelle.net Shabelle Webmaster: baabul@shabelle.net Siyad Bare's remnants are heading back to their homes in Mogadishu and asking ICU to provide besic needs such as food and shelter. I guest those people preffered Mogadishu than Ifo, Ijaro, and Dhagaxlay after multple visits and bad experiences for the last seventeen years. I am wonding whether the ICU is going to put them in Villa Baidoa as USC did in early 1991 or going to give them back their homes? and I am also wondering whether Siyad Bare's remnants are going to accept USC domination and going to refrain demanding equality? What an ending. .

Ciidanka MMI ee Jubooyinka oo Xabsiga u taxaabay in kabadan 20 ruux Posted to the Web Nov 14, 16:51 Kismaayo:-Ciidamada MMI ee gobollada Jubooyinka ayaa xabsiga u taxaabay in kabadan 20 ruux oo lagu soo qabtay maandooriyaha noocyadiisa kala duwan,waxaana dadkaasi la dhigay xabisga magaalada Kismaayo. Masuuliyiinta maamulka islaamiga ee gobollada Jubooyinka ayaa horey u mamnuucay isticmaalka iyo ka ganacsiga maandooriyaha noocyadiisa kala duwan,ayadoo go’aankaasi uu dhaqan galayay maalintii isniinta. Taliye ku xigeenka xabsiga magaalada Kismaayo C/qaadir Maxamed Jibriil ayaa sheegay in dadka la qabtay haatan lagu hayo xabsiga magaalada Kismaayo.Waxa uu intaa ku daray in maxkamad islaami ah la soo taagi doono dadkaasi oo ku xadgudbay mamnuucistan lagu sameeyay maandooriyayaasha,waxa ayna dadkaasi isugu jiraan kuwa ka ganacsanayeen iyo kuwa isticmaalayay maandooriyayaasha. Gobollada Jubooyinka ayaa laga mamnuucay isticmaalka iyo ka ganacsiga Sigaarka,Qaadka,Khamriga,Xashiishada iyo noocyada kale ee mukhaadaraadka. Halgan.net C/Qaadir Osman I don't know if ICU is intentionally after Siyad Bare's remnants in Kismayu thus is trying to achieve unfinished USC's goals? I think this is very spectacular political development in southern Somalia. three hundred thousand remnants of Siyad Bare come to Kismayu in 1991 to join their brothers and sisters in Jubaland, and after seventeen years those remained there are living in hardest moment because the city is under same people whom are against their exsistance. the people of Kismayu must stand up against unfair treatment. I know this act seems like an act of allineation which is going to give a unknown disired effect then application of sharia law. ICU is humilating cigarette users, and property owners while the ICU doesn't have a treatment for the addicts, or the law ist applied equally through out the country; as USA used dogs to humilate muslim prisoners Nin tag lama dhehee wuxuu ku tagaa la tusaa.

Clan courtas's authority is power which is so unquestionable institution to the eyes of the clans it represents.

Bro I did not misinterprete you, I have just quoted what you have said, and it is very ironic to me how you said is far away from somalinimo.