you misundertood Mystic ..... Siyad Bare waxaba isku ma gaayo galin let go to hell haku waaro ilaah baan uga baryaa. difaacidiisan waxba igu ma jirto amaani maayona. Runta hadii la rabo Siad Bare waxba uma dhimin Bay, Bakool, Shabellada hoose. Somalis across the board get that. USC/ICU IS KUL CINDI FINDI GEEL. IYAGAA LAHAA.

Previously widely being estimated USC/ICU millia to around 15,000 and if you add that number the offspring then the number could be 30,000 oo miiran waana loo maaro heli ee waxaa daran in aad ciido isku rogto oo aad xaar ka wareegto. inagan indhaha naga tuurto.

Qanyaaraa rumeysane xaa kuu galay ha is qarine

the mistrust you are talking about ..... ma waxaad bogsiin la'adihiin boog aydaan samayn oo waxaa idinku filan sidaas ma ahayn oo qura. Qolo kastaa waxay idinkaga cararaysaa waxaa waaye damiciinaan waalan that is all oo nin mu'mina oo guriisa ku jira qixiseen that what counts. Deen and Somali Sovernity aad ku gabanaysaan qof kastaa waa ogtahay.

You are funny man ... you made me laugh because I see you(offspring or Shabaab) as a pussled man who is looking the apportunity that your USC/ICU lost. Siyaad bare lama eryine ee waxaa la 'eryey dhamaan u-madii muslimiinta eheyd koofur ku dhaqneed mid aad dishaan iyo mid aad dhacdaan ayaad ka digteen ma moodeeseen in tani ay idin suki USC/ICU did the worest and don't blame Siyad on what you did.

FOREIGN INTERVENTION WILL UNIFY SOMALIS AND WIDEN THE CONFLICT By Omar Salad The declaration of war by the Ethiopian prime Minister Meles Zenawi and his parliament’s approval that Ethiopia should go to war with Somalia on the baseless pretext that the UIC pose immediate threat to his country while several divisions of his army has already been deployed inside Somalia, and the Americans’ backing to Ethiopia and proposal to the UN that more African troops be sent to Somalia to fight alongside the weak TFG and against the UIC are very worrying developments that can bring about unprecedented catastrophe and human tragic of great proportions of genocide in Somalia similar to those happened in Rwanda and Iraq. So one has to speak out this about ominous prospect. On 8 August this year I posted an article on some internet websites and circulated it to some foreign diplomatic missions based in Nairobi of the countries involved in Somalia’s affairs and other quarters wherein I denounced the illegal and aggressive intrusion of the Ethiopian military into Somalia and urged to all concerned to advise Ethiopia withdraw its troops. I warned and predicted that invasion on the Somali national sovereignty could inflame the situation and escalate the conflict beyond the Somali borders as this reopens old wounds and hitherto dormant traditional enmity between the two countries and peoples unless Ethiopia is stopped. I also predicated that if the international community antagonizes the Union of Islamic Courts (UIC) and sides with the dysfunctional TFG that that would unify Somalis more and more around the UIC under the banner of Islam. Let’s look at the developments that have happened since then. RAPID GROWTH AND EXPANSION OF THE UIC At the time the UIC control was confined to Mogadishu City, and the two adjacent regions of Lower and Middle Shabelle. One remembers that their rise to power and control in these regions was triggered by the American intervention to back financially the much hated warlords who were defeated and chased away from these regions in the middle of this year. In a similar way the political fortunes of the UIC has dramatically soared since the intrusion of the Ethiopian troops into Somalia. The popular support to the UIC rose up and their influence and control spread like prairie fire to the central and southern regions where people gave them enthusiastic welcome and support. The additional regions that joined the to UIC so far include the Lower Jubba Region, Middle Jubba Region, Hiiraan Region, the Galgaduud Region, half of former Southern Mudug region or Galmudug State ( Bandiiradley and Hobyo Port districts) and half of Bay Region (Burhakaba and Dinsoor districts). In the entire south and central regions only Baidoa city, Bakool Region, and Gedo which are under Ethiopian troops control, are outside the control of the UIC. In Puntland the passions and tension between proponents of Islamic law introduction and the Regional Authority run very high. In the last one and half months, several tribes ( Lelkase tribe of Galdodob, Mohamed Omar a sub-tribe Omar Mohamud tribe of North Mudug Region) have established their own Islamic courts and called upon others to follow suit while in Bosaaso another tribe named Ali Saleeban called upon the Puntland Regional Administration to adopt the Islamic law. Far in the north, the Dulbahante tribe in Sool Region also set up an Islamic Court in Las Anod town, of which the jurisdiction is disputed both by Puntland and Somaliland.. In another move, conscious and mindful of the dominant pro-Islamic law mood of the Puntland population and to pre-empt a possible eruption of conflict, the traditional, religious and business leaders in all Puntland regions proposed to the Administration that it should adopt Islamic law. The President of the Administration Mr. Adde Muuse appointed a committee to discuss and make recommendations on this proposal. But sensing that the Administration is not keen on adopting Islamic law tension and certainty remain high in the part of the country. In recent days there were reports coming out from Puntland that proponents of Islamic law publicly announced that they have begun to raise their own militias to support their demands and fight against and drive out Ethiopian troops from Puntland. They say that they are confident that majority of the Puntland population will support resistance against Ethiopia and they forge alliance with the UIC. In another development, in Somaliland, the Harbar Younis tribe of Burao Region, announced the formation of their own Islamic Court to be administered by a committee composed of 70 members. The regional authority of Burao declared that move illegal and detained a sultan who presided the formation of the Islamic Court with other notable members of the tribe. There is tension between the Somaliland authority and the said tribe over the issue of the Sharia Law and the arrest of the traditional leaders. As noted above the rapid growth of support and spread of influence of the UIC have been boosted by the recent direct foreign interventions, namely the US financial backing of the defeated warlords and Ethiopian military intrusion, and the official declaration of Ethiopian government and parliament and the biased support to the TFG that has neither popular support nor legitimacy. Meles Zenawi’s declaration against Somalia ‘to crush the UIC ‘ while the UIC or Somalia has not harmed any Ethiopian interest or security what-so-ever , is not only mad and adventurous decision but that shows the real paranoia that the Ethiopian prime minister suffers from. He wants to divert the attention from and diffuse the increasing internal pressure of the opposition on his regime by creating an imaginary threat coming from Somalia or the UIC. Another obvious reason of taking such reckless decision is to jump on the bandwagon of the American ‘War on Terror’ to buy favour and recognition from the US administration so that they can relent the pressure on his excessive human rights abuses and to release more suspended funds for his regime. An additional reason can be that he is pre-booking for a political asylum in the USA in the event he loses power as it will be less likely for other countries to accept him. The deployment of more African troops as advocated and proposed by the American Ambassador at the UN (at the moment of writing news came that he resigned because of the Senate’s disapproval for him to continue in his post) or a war by Ethiopia on Somalia will only exacerbate the conflict in Somalia which will in turn undoubtedly spill over beyond the Somali borders. If the intention and the exercise of the Ethiopian regime and/or the idea of additional African troops are to purge Islamic militants from the Somali society that is helpless misconception and miscalculation. The UIC are not ‘terrorist’ elements as portrayed by Ethiopian regime and its allies but it is a broad social movement which is part and parcel of the Somali society and enjoys rapidly increasing popular support of the majority of the Somali people. To separate the UIC from the Somali masses is like to wash earth from a termite dune ( waa dudumo ciid ka mayr) to use a Somali proverb. Also those siding with and trying to defend dysfunctional TFG should know that it is indefensible. Once again it has fallen apart into two factions – one faction comprised of almost half of the MPs and including the President and Prime Minister who completely lost confidence in the Somali people and rely for their personal protection and support on foreign military and political support; and another faction including the Speaker and almost another half of the MPs. If war breaks out the entire TFG members (President, PM, ministers and MPs) will flee from Baidoa and seek safe haven either in the other Somali regions and abroad. In anticipation of war more than half of the TFG members including the top executive leaders have already left Baidoa giving way to Ethiopian troops total control.. So, the TFG is destined to die with or without breakout of war and nobody can resuscitate it.. That is a fact. Thus any resources allocated to its upkeep and defence by the international community will be wasted as it has been during its two and half years of existence. COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TFG AND THE UIC THE TFG 1- Most members of the TFG especially the top executive leadership have been handpicked and favoured by Ethiopia and they defend the opinions and interests of Ethiopia and other foreign quarters rather than those of their Somali nation; 2- They are extremely unpopular and virtually supportless and considered by most Somalis as Ethiopian agents devoid of the least sense of patriotism and concern for Somalia; 3- During the two and half years of their existence the TFG did nothing for the Somali people in terms of building Somali security forces, or caring of the welfare and plight of their people, or at least building one clinic or one school class room despite the millions of dollars they have received from the UN and other international community members; 4- They controlled only few sites or camps in Baidoa city and now the Ethiopian troops took over the controls of these sites and camps; 5- Over the presence of the Ethiopian troops in Somalia and the war expected to erupt, the members of the TFG became divided – almost half led by the President and Prime Minister support Ethiopian intervention plans and for additional African troops for their personal defence and political survival while almost another half led by the Speaker opposes the Ethiopian troops presence or any other foreign troops; 6- In anticipation of the breakout of war most members of the TFG began to flee either to Mogadishu, some other regions or abroad; 7- They have completely lost confidence in their own people and totally depend for their personal security on foreign support and protection. THE UIC 1- They established peace, law and order and equal justice for all in the Capital Mogadishu and all the other places they control after 16 years of total chaos and mayhem; 2- They rehabilitated the main public service infrastructures such Mogadishu Airport, Sea Port, roads, and banned health hazard narcotics, expired food and medicines, and pornographic and bad films intoxicating and corrupting the people; 3- They returned the houses and land plots looted during the civil to their rightful owners; 4- They speak for and uphold the welfare and dignity of the Somali people and for the defence of the national territorial integrity, sovereignty, independence; and unity; 5- They care of the welfare of the people by running schools, helping the poor and responding to the drought and floods disasters. When they were not yet not in power, the UIC collected over $100,000 donations for the drought stricken people in Gedo and Jubba regions and collected over $500,000 of donations for the victims for the current river alluvial floods! and 6- They control seven plus two halves of two regions of the 12 regions in the south and central Somalia and enjoy growing massive popular support in these regions and five and two halves regions are either regional local administrations or under Ethiopian occupation(e.g. half of Bay region, the entire Bakool region, parts of Gedo region and parts of Puntland) . This is the true balance sheet of the two groups which should be taken into account by the international community. The issue here is not between ‘a secular and legitimate’ (misnomer given to a bunch of vulgar anti-Islam and anti-national warlords and hirelings) and a group of religious militants. But the real issue is between the pro-Ethiopian dying and indefensible TFG and the Somali people led by the UIC. The only way that some portions of the TFG (not all of it) cab be salvaged is to speed up and make the forthcoming Khartoum to succeed by agreeing a power sharing formula by the two sides. Another problem which I must mention here is the foreign misconception and miscalculation based on prejudice, misinformation and ill-advice obsessed by smearing the image of the UIC as ‘Talaban like terrorist’ organisation and the futile attempts to separate the UIC and the Somali people. That same misconception underestimates the indomitable Somali personality, stamina, resilience and spirit visa vice their enemies regardless of conventional economic and technological resources. MY SECOND PREDICATION IF WAR BREAKS OUT War breakout of war between Ethiopia and the Somalis is inevitable Ethiopia unless the UN Security Council especially the US government orders the Ethiopian government to withdraw its troops from Somali soil soon. In the event of war between Ethiopia and the Somalis, with or without additional foreign troops on the Ethiopian side, both countries will pay a heavy price and the consequence will be dire especially for Ethiopia. The UIC will mainly use guerrilla warfare tactics engaging Ethiopian troops everywhere from the Ethiopian border (if not beyond) to Baidoa and from Galkayo (possibly whole of Puntland) to Jubba land and Gedo regions and possibly parts of Somaliland. Then the Ethiopian troops will be overstretched and their rear supplies will be disrupted. They will be devoured by vast hostile territory inhabited by brave warriors acknowledged by all invading foreigners in the past. Thousands of Ethiopian troops will be killed, captured or they will surrender themselves and their weapons. The Somalis be may also sustain heavy lost – tens of thousands might be killed especially unarmed civilians or armed with light weapons or traditional weapons to fight against invading foreign Christian troops from their country and religion. When the going of the war becomes tough and desperate the Ethiopians might bombard the main infrastructures of Somalia such as Airports, sea ports, and river bridges and main trade markets in Mogadishu. The Americans might not might come to their rescue to give them air-reconnaissance, air-cover and sea blockage to strangle Somalis and cause tens of thousands of Somali civilians mostly children and women and vulnerable people to die for famine and diseases if the war is prolonged. I hope that the Americans will not intervene. The massacre or genocide by the Ethiopian troops might be similar to those occurred in Rwanda or Iraq. Even in that bleak scenario, God forbid it, the Somalis will win the war and the most of the four or five Ethiopian divisions or so thrown into the battlefield will be wiped out and the rest will retreat with ignominious defeat. Then the conflict will shift beyond the Somali borders – it means that upheavals will begin inside Ethiopia that will undoubtedly overthrow the Meles regime or be paralysed before it inevitably collapses. Kenya will be spared of the conflict if it stays out of the confrontation between Ethiopia and Somalia. The outcome of the war will be that Somalis emerge victorious and united. SOME SIGNS OF HOPE Despite the current American proposal to the UN Security Council seeking authorisation of the deployment of African troops and presence of Ethiopian troops in Somalia to protect the weak and dysfunctional TFG and fight against the Somali people led by the UIC, there are some encouraging signs that might defuse and avoid such unfortunate war situation. On 2/12/2006 representatives from IGAD and a delegation of the UIC met in Djibouti and discussed issues of interests for both sides. According to media reports the outcome was encouraging as they agreed on a number of points including recognition of the peace and stability that the UIC established in the regions under their control and that foreign troops have to be withdrawn from Somalia. Another good sign was that in the same day an Ethiopian minister approached the UIC delegation and that both sides exchanged views as a preliminary step. Ethiopian government also reported in the media that this meeting was preceded by previous contacts and attempts to reach out the UIC. It was also reported that on the same date, a UN delegation led by the co-ordinator of the UN humanitarian aid visited Mogadishu and met with Sheikh Dahir Aweys the Chairman of the UIC Shura and other officials to discuss with them about the return of the previously suspended UN humanitarian aid and to agree on a working memorandum between the UN and UIC in this respect. But how can these preliminary positive postures by the UN, IGAD and Ethiopia be interpreted? I think there can be two interpretations. One assumption might be realisation by the international community of the importance to engage and deal with UIC which can bring positive results. Another assumption might to appease the UIC while bidding time to prepare a UN Security Council resolution (as pushed by US government) that authorises partial lift of arms embargo in favour of the TFG and deployment of additional African troops to assist the Ethiopian troops on the ground. But what about Ethiopian abrupt approach of contacting the UIC? Whether this has or has not link with the latter assumption, Ethiopia’s move is nothing more than a sinister intention of appeasing the UIC until everything is in place for them (Ethiopians). They also want to dampen the growing support to the UIC by Somalis in all regions to make an expression that the UIC has agreed with Ethiopia and then Somalis in the different regions have to start contacts and agree with Ethiopia and enter separate deals with it. This is a policy of divide and rule. But the moves by IGAD and UN are to be seen whether they are genuine and move forward or not. SUGGESTIONS TO THE TFG PRESIDENT I suggest to the TFG President, Mr. Abdillahi Yusuf: to: 1- forgive and forget any grudges with the UIC leaders for the sake of salvaging the country from further conflict and suffering which can go on for years to come, and take a bold step by sharing power with the UIC by offering the post of prime minister and fair share of ministers dispensed to the UIC while dumping the current Prime Minister; 2- agree to demand the Ethiopian government to withdraw its troops immediately from Somalia and refrain from asking other foreign troops unless the new shared government unanimously agrees on that; 3- ask and work for the repatriation of Somali politics to Somalia and the Somalis from the foreign countries that monopolise it; 4- Agree to begin building national Somali police and army forces involving ex-Somali police and army officers and expert trainers from neutral countries. SUGGESTIONS TO THE UIC I suggest to the UIC leadership to: 1- equally forgive and forget any grudges with President Abdullahi Yusuf regarding his past deeds and present views about the UIC for the sake of salvaging the Nation from further conflict and suffering and for the sake of restoring genuine and effective Somali central government; 2- share power with TFG taking the post of prime minister and fair share of ministers; 3- agree to build mixed national police and army forces involving ex-Somali police and army officers and expert trainers from neutral countries; and 4- allay the security concerns of the neighbouring countries as well as the concern of foreign states. SUGGESTIONS TO THE INTERNATIONAL CMMUNITY The UN Security Council has, under the UN Charter, obligations and responsibilities to keep peace and security in the world while protecting the stateless and weak peoples and nations from aggression and domination by big stronger aggressors. Even so, nowadays, it seems that UN Security Council is deviating its original noble mission of neutrality and protecting these vulnerable peoples and is increasingly becoming part of the problem in conflicts worldwide serving certain political agendas of certain powerful member states.. Somalia is case in point where the members of the Security Council or some members of it tend to take sides in the internal conflict by supporting one side against another ( e.g. in 1992-4 UNITAF and UNISOM intervention in Somalia) and current support to the dysfunctional TFG at expense of the UIC which controls most regions and has largest following. Another glaring folly of the UN Security Council which is discrediting its reputation as responsible and neutral body is the failure to speak out and denounce Ethiopian invasion on Somalia and order it to withdraw its troops. Instead UN Security Council condoning with that shows its partiality and tacit support for such invasion on Somalia. If the UN Security Council and UN members states or regional organisations whose voice carries certain weight such as EU, Arab League, and AU do not raise their voice and compel Ethiopia to take back its troops, the UN and all these organisations will be responsible before the history for any human catastrophe and massive genocide that happens in Somalia. Ethiopia is traditional enemy of Somalia and if not restrained it will take advantage of in this hour when Somalis are stateless and vulnerable. After mass genocide in the magnitude of tens of thousands or more takes place, any regret will not absolve the UN or its member states any culpability and disrepute. Any war unleashed by Ethiopia on Somalia will widen the conflict in the region and will translate itself as war between Christian and Muslim forces and will increase tension between Muslim and Western Christian countries. Therefore, I suggest to the UN Security Council and the international community as a whole to: 1- call upon Ethiopia to withdraw its troops from Somalia immediately; 2- refrain from sending other foreign troops to Somalia as pushed by the US Government to defend the dysfunctional TFG or fight against the UIC; 3- stop antagonising the UIC, talk and engage them for they are the legitimate and most strong and popular organisation genuinely representing the Somali people; 4- Support unreservedly and constructively the forthcoming Khartoum Talks to make them succeed by pressuring the TFG and its mentor Ethiopia to agree to a settlement in which power is fairly shared between the UIC and TFG based on the territory and population each group controls; 5- return UN agencies and other international humanitarian NGOs to Somalia especially the peaceful areas controlled by the UIC, from which these organisations had withdrawn political reasons, in order to assist the millions of Somalis who are in dire need following the prolonged civil war, recent drought, and the current river alluvial floods which displaced, dispossessed and stranded over 400,000 people; 6- help repatriate Somali politics hijacked by Ethiopia and Kenya, countries which have vested interested in Somalia; 7- help invest and rebuild strong across-tribal Somali police and army forces which could keep the peace and security of the country instead of trying to bring in unacceptable foreign troops; and 8- help rebuild the country and revive the economy so that people can earn incomes to live normally and moderately otherwise, as it were, they will harbour hate and ill-feeling for foreign countries which they view dividing and sabotaging their country, in which case they will be tempted to violence and extremist calls by any one. All in all, it is the UN Security Council and the rest of the international community that can avert such gloomy prospect war between Somalia and Ethiopia and bring peace and stability in Somalia if there is determination and goodwill based on the true spirit of the UN Charter and humanitarian principles. Omar Salad E-mail: Oselmi@hotmail.com

.yaabka yaabkiis waaba yabanahay yaaba is gaaray, daali ogidaa. Mystic you are already tried in selling the idea of Somaliaweyn. you are missing two thing don't put Southerners into one basket it is not. Puntland is differen spicies altogher. you blame Siyad Bare I blame USC/ICU. CIRCULAR

PRESS STATEMENT The Transitional Federal Government is following the events that are taking place in the country with alarm particularly the ICU‘s constant aggression, war mongering and the influx of foreign terrorists in the southern regions of our country. Thousands of Eritrean and other foreigners, who are answering ICU’s call for “jihad”, are pouring into ICU-held regions. Our intelligence sources also indicate increased flow of arms shipments from Eritrea and abroad. Furthermore the Government views the attack on the Government garrison in the Dinsoor district as a blatant attempt to expand into areas in Bay and Gedo regions. It was also an attempt to heighten the already tense situation in and around Baidoa. For instance the ICU is massing troops in both Buurhaka and Dinsor which are in the East and South of Baidoa respectively. The Government has welcomed the new Security Council resolution 1725 in which the Council has authorized a Protection and Training mission to Somalia and called upon the Union of Islamic Courts to cease further military expansion. The Council also urged the Transitional Federal Government and the Union of Islamic Courts to unite behind and continue a process of dialogue and recommit to the principles of Khartoum I and II. In this regard the Transitional Federal Government welcomes the continuation of the peace process in line with principles of Khartoum I and II and urges other Somali parties to recommit to peace and dialogue. The Islamic Courts, instead of ceasing their expansion and committing to peace and dialogue, have increased their military expansionist activities and their belligerence to new heights in clear violation of their obligation under Resolution 1725. The TFG draws the attention of the international community to the grave danger that the current situation poses to peace and stability in Somalia and the region and would like the issue addressed urgently. MINISTRY OF INFORMATION BAIDOA 10TH OF DECEMBER, 2006

USC/ICU knows wat happend to them in the RRA war against father-son warmongers Aideed of USC/ICU backed by Eritrae. They got kicked out terribly bad. Same thing will happen. Federalists will win over fascism and evil, thievery and savagery of courts aka USC/ICU

Gaalkacyo(AllPuntland)- Isu soo bax aad u ballaaran ayaa maanta ka dhacay magaalada Gaalkacyo , isu soo baxaasi oo ay soo qaban qaabiyeen maamulka gobolka Mudug ee uu madaxda u yahay C/rashiid Cali Xaashi (Dhuubane), ururada haweenka iyo kuwa dhallinyarada,waxaana kasoo qaybgalay badi shacabka magaalada Gaalkacyo. Kasoo qayb galayaasha bannaanbaxa ayaa watay boorar iyo hal ku dhigyo ay ku taageersan yihiin go'aankii kasoo baxay qaramada midoobay ee Soomaalida u ogolaanayay in dalkooda ay tagaan ciidamo nabad ilaalin ah. Waxaa sidoo bannaanbaxan si xooggan loogu dhaliilay maxkamadaha Islaamiga ee Soomaaliya oo la sheegay inay isku ballaarinayaan gobollo nabad ah sida Puntland , waxaana dadku ay si gaar ah u dhaliilayeen qaar kamid ah maxkamadaha oo ay ku sheegayeen inay qaddiyado gaar ah wataan. Guddoomiyaha gobolka Mudug C/rashiid Cali Xaashi (Dhuubane) oo maanta hadal ujeediyay isu soo baxayasha ayaa sheegay in ay aad ugu faraxsan yihiin in dalka la keeno ciidamo nabad ilaalin ah , kuwaasoo dalka ka bad baadiya in wax ka badan 16 sano dadku ay dhibaato kusii jiraan. Dhuubane wuxuu intaasi raaciyay in muddo lagu taamayay dalka ay ciidamo yimaadaan, haddana ay hirgashay, ayna muuqato saan saan nabadeed . Guddoomiyaha gobolka wuxuu sixooggan u weeraray maxkamadaha Islaamiga , wuxuuna ku sheegay inay doonayaan dhul ballaarsi iyo bur bur iyo barakac ku dhaca shacab Soomaaliyeed. Wuxuu uga digay inay sii wadaan dhaq dhaqaaqyada ciidan ee ay kawadaan gobolka Mudug , wuxuuna u sheegay inaysan faa'iido kala kulmi doonin arintaasi. Dhuubane wuxuu si cad u weeraryay guddoomiyaha golaha shuurada maxkamadaha magaalada Muqdisho oo uu ku tilmaamay inuu bannaystay dhiigga shacab aan waxba galabsan , wuxuuna ku eedeeyay in shacabka ay mar walba been ku qanciyaan waa sida u hadalka u dhigaye. Bannaanbaxayaashii maanta isugu soo baxay waddooyinka Gaalkacyo ayaa maray waddada laamiga ah, kuna soo gabo gabeeyay kulankooda suugaan Stadiumka Gaalkacyo , halkaasi oo maanta laga soo jeediyay suugaan isugu jirta Gabayo, iyo Buran burro kala duwan oo kusaabsan in midnimada Puntland muqaddas tahay. CCC Farayaamo AllPuntland

Not for the first time, the Ethio-Eritrean border dispute has spilled over into Somalia. In 1998-9, Ethiopia helped the Rahanweyne Resistance Army in its struggle against the Eritrean-backed forces of Hussein Aideed. Today, Eritrean support for the Courts, and indirectly for the ONLF and OLF, has prompted Ethiopia to augment its military presence on both sides of the Ethio-Somali administrative boundary. (Much of the frontier between Ethiopia and Somalia is disputed, making it a provisional boundary rather than an international border.)

Afraid of Courts? MAT BRYDEN First, the Courts have revived the pan-Somali nationalist sentiment that, between 1960 and 1978, caused three wars between Ethiopia and Somalia, a long-running insurgency in north eastern Kenya and a short-lived urban guerrilla campaign in Djibouti. On November 17, Courts chairman Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys forcefully reiterated that position in an interview, asserting: "We will leave no stone unturned to integrate our Somali brothers in Kenya and Ethiopia and restore their freedom to live with their ancestors in Somalia." Second, the Courts have hosted and supported Ethiopian rebel groups - namely the Oromo Liberation Front (OLF) and ****** National Liberation Front (ONLF) since at least March 2005. Since October 2006, the ONLF and the Courts claim to have been co-ordinating military operations inside Ethiopia. The Courts leaders probably feel that such actions are justified by the presence of Ethiopian troops on Somali soil, but they have never indicated whether the withdrawal of Ethiopian troops would be matched by suspension of support for cross-border insurgents. Third, and perhaps most serious, are the Courts' alleged links to terrorism. Addis Ababa holds Sheikh Aweys and other senior figures of the Courts Council to be responsible for a series of terrorist attacks in Ethiopia between 1995-6. Other members of the Courts have been linked to the murders of Western aid workers, journalists and Somali civil society leaders in Somaliland and Mogadishu. And the US government, among others, believes that elements of the Courts are sheltering transnational terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda responsible for major terrorist attacks in Kenya and Tanzania. Courts leaders have been dismissive of these allegations. Last weekend in Djibouti, the Courts signed a communiqu with the regional Intergovernmental Authority on Development (Igad) that spoke for the first time to these concerns. They promised to respect the territorial integrity of Somalia's neighbours, deny sanctuary to insurgent groups, and condemned all acts of terrorism. It remains to be seen whether they are willing and able to deliver on those commitments. It is tempting to view the looming conflict as simply another chapter in Somalia's seemingly interminable civil wars, but the current dynamics are far more complex and the potential consequences more dire than in the past. This time, the stability and security of the entire Horn of Africa, not only of Somalia, are at stake. At its most parochial level, the current confrontation is a grudge match between two old foes who have clashed before. TFG President Abdillahi Yusuf Ahmed and Courts chairman Sheikh Aweys, both former Colonels, last fought each other in a vicious campaign in northeast Somalia in 1992. Yusuf's militias decimated Aweys's al-Itihaad forces and expelled them from the region. Perhaps inevitably for Somalia, the situation also involves a clan dimension. For many Somalis, the conflict conjures up memories of the early days of the civil war, when ****** and ***** clan militias engaged in bloody clashes from Kismayo to Gaalka'yo. In much of Somalia, the Courts are perceived simply as a vehicle for ****** clan interests. Conversely, President Yusuf, a *****, is widely believed among the ****** to seek revenge against their clan. But clan dynamics, though relevant, fail to capture the Courts' national character and ambitions. The militant wing of the Courts, known as the Shabaab, includes Somalis from most major clans and is determined to wage "jihad" until every corner of Somalia falls under their control. This poses a direct challenge to the stability of Puntland (an autonomous region in northeast Somalia) and the self-declared Republic of Somaliland, which possesses a functioning constitutional democracy and seeks recognition as an independent state. Not for the first time, the Ethio-Eritrean border dispute has spilled over into Somalia. In 1998-9, Ethiopia helped the Rahanweyne Resistance Army in its struggle against the Eritrean-backed forces of Hussein Aideed. Today, Eritrean support for the Courts, and indirectly for the ONLF and OLF, has prompted Ethiopia to augment its military presence on both sides of the Ethio-Somali administrative boundary. (Much of the frontier between Ethiopia and Somalia is disputed, making it a provisional boundary rather than an international border.) Several thousand Ethiopian troops are already deployed in Somalia, most of them dug in around the TFG seat at Baidoa. Ethiopian troops have also deployed in strength to Gaalka'yo in support of the Puntland administration and heavy fighting broke out there on Tuesday morning. Eritrea has reportedly sent several hundred troops and trainers, as well as considerable quantities of arms, to prepare the Courts for its confrontation with Ethiopia. If true, the Eritreans bring with them not only weapons, but also an invaluable first-hand experience of Ethiopian capabilities and tactics. Eritrea also hosts and trains forces from the OLF and ONLF, so its relationship with the Courts is doubly irksome for Addis Ababa.

Originally posted by mystic: Why do they wish to divide from there fellow Somali brethrens? [/QB] Ask yourself puzzled man. Hal xiraalihii waad ku dhacday. su'ashaas waxaa ay u taalay USC/ICU markii guryaha muslimiinta ay ku gadanaayeen for pennies. Soomaalaa waxay ku maah maahdaa Yeelaa waa hilmaamaa la yelaase ma hilmaamo. Saxiib USC/ICU xaqiii muslimiinta ayaa ka soo baxday hadeer oo ay la qaylinyaan soomaali ayaa la kala goyneyaa oo hurdada ka tooseen. waraabe wax lala wadaagi karo malaha.

Originally posted by mystic: It is pathetic that we have Somalis who deny other Somalis the right to have Greater Somalia. where did I say greater somalia. re-read my comments as respond approprietly.

ISN'T THE USC/ICU IS DENYING THE RIGHTS OF SELF-DETERMINATION PUNTLAND/SOMALILAND. - THE ENEMY WITHIN IS LOT WOREST THEN OUTSIDERS. I BELIEVE THE ROUTE THE USC/ICU (THE ENEMY WITHIN) IS TAKING IS LOT WORST THAN OUTSIDE ENEMY.

Originally posted by Abdi2005: There is no relation between USC and ICU except that they are from the same clan, which Kamaludin jumps on sens he have animosity against that clan. If he have something against USC then he shouldn go further than Baydhabo where all the former USC thugs are. Can any one remind me if I am wrong! on these they themselves use to replace their tribal names into Beelweynta USC, Beelaha USC, sidii intey Jano ku galayaan oo kale iyo sida lama filaanka ah ay wax ku dhaceen kaligooda dhaxlaan Somali inteeda kale waxay Mogadishu hanti ku laheyd. Magaaladana kaligood isugu soo haray oo qof la xisaabtanta lawaayey. They never diffirentiate the party and the tribe party is only being rejuvinated again and some people are going back and forth. Osman Atto and Furux become a Spokes persons and traitors among TFB. In addition to that, Dahir Aweys wuxuu u gacan haatinaayey Qanyare, Sudi, iyo Mohamed Dheere. That is way I don't consider ICU as by product of Somalifiyow. I don't like to hear you call get loss -------------------- be it Somalidoon and USC/ICU basher.

for your information Mystic you need to adjust to things on the ground................... the idea of Somaliweyn waa dhamaatay. USC/ICU muderer, and rapist, thinking to bring power back to their hand again. this puzzle that USC/ICU meant not to solve.

Originally posted by Taliban: 1) If the US and Europe find it's in their interests to recognize Somaliland, then they will do it. Al-Qaida, terrorists, fanatics, fundamentalists, radicals, iwm will not factor. It will also not matter whatever appeals the secesionists come up with. 2) Recognition is upto the interests of the US and Europe. Furthermore, do you think Somaliland's allegations can outsmart what the CIA and European intelligence apparatuses know about Somalia? Sxb,3) you surely know this farce by the NSPU is a waste of time and energy, at best diversionary from the real problems (spreading AIDS, killing, war and invasion by Ethiopia) in Somalia. Taliban knows the new world order and what it takes recognition of the Euorope/ICU. Not only Taliban believes this but also USC/ICU is after Europe and USA because it seems as if Europe/USA don't care the compostion of USC/ICU and their Al-Qa'eda relationship. Keep knocking the doors USC/ICU.

So NSPU are entertainers of the world "waan ka sii jeedinaa caalamka in Somaliland la oqoonsado" Sidaas miyey camalkiinu noqotay... do something fruitfull please. Bal Xeerada idin dhextaala si uun yeela. iska daaya xeerada kale aad daba ordaysaan. adinka uun baa ku daali. Get loss Somaliweyn it is dead long time ago.

Lol Jimcaale how many times ayaad ku qorowday USC/ICU chasing the remnants of Siyad Bare. aadna ku heestay ninkii dhof ku yimid baa geeridu dhibaysaa soo xasuu wagaad dagaalka afweyne kula jirtay.

Mr. Red Sea I dare you to stick to your Somaliland success, please do not lead Al-Qa'eda supported thugs into Somaliland.

Originally posted by Taliban: What's more, 1) why would they hold a conference about Somaliland when there's an incoming war in the horizon that will kill and displace thousands? 2) Is the Somaliland issue more critical? 3) Is uniting with Somaliland more important than thousands who will be killed and displaced by the TFG and their Ethiopian patron? :confused: This is first time you (Taliban) being rational. I do agree with you your first two points however the third point your are still on the USC/ICU train thus not being rational.

Originally posted by mystic: quote:Originally posted by Abdi2005: this kamalu dud is nutz People would take him more seriously if he let his brain do the thinking first, but apparently his brain doesn’t function normally. I am not serious ... because my brain doesn't function normaly. looooooooool Waa adigaa ku qarwaayo USC/ICU being true leaders. you are serious. LOOOOOL

laan dheer waa la'arki doonaa meyshey soomali dhigaan. What you call minoroties is the future mijorities. get that. Shabeele Hoose waxaa ku noo 900,000 people waxaana haysta 3,000 wary thugs.

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