Ahmed_Guree: somalidoon/freelance ogoonta biliqo-ujoog mar danbe (SPM/ONLF) no more citizenship...... USC/ICU is going to use you later will trash you just like you uncle SIYAD BARE, and Menez Zanawi in Ethio-Eriterian war don't forget that. Bililiqo waa idiinkaga dhamaatay. keep dreaming.

Originally posted by Kamalu Diin: Who is gonna buy this "Froreing army presence in Somalia"> Only offspring (shabaab/ICU) of USC who blindlesslly see one side of the equation (UN report of 8000 ethipians and 2000 Eriterians on somalia soil). While those countries have being disputing having army in Somalia. Only widely known (un-disputed) few hundreds of Ethipian technocrats who are helping TFG to stand it feet, and spoted but disputed Al-Qa'eda/Jihadist with offspring(shabaab/ICU) of USC conrolled area. Offspring (Shabaab/ICU) of USC I have question for your. Why you see as foreing one side of the equation and not other? Rational comment only. OLOL waxaan jeclaan lahaa in aad si fiican iiga jawaabtid su'aasheyda. ha ka hadlin shabaabka 2% la socota ha arkin oo danaha gaarka ah iska leh kuwa aad shegayso puntland ayey shareeca ka dhis lahaayeen hadii ay run sheegayaan ee wax kalay wataan. waxaa kaloo ku jira shabaabka kuwa la caqli xaday iyo kuwa la qasbay anigu kuwaasoo dha kuu sheegi maayo ee waxaan kaa rabaa saaxii inaad ii sheegto the majority of shabaab (the offspring of USC) called ICU. ORINALLY POSTED BY OLOL part of the courageous and determined Shabaab are more than 2500 able and proud youth from Puntland and the commander of the UIC commandoes, Sheikh Fu'aad Khalaf, is himself from Puntland. These Mujahadiin voluntararily came to Mogadishu to join their brothers in Islam to defend the motherland from the enemy. I am not in dennial as many times mentioned USC/ICU waxay u taagan tahay in xaga muslimiinta duudsiyaa. originally posted by OLOL Qabiil is still in the minds of those who are rotting in the Qurbaha and are totally disconnected from the realities in Somalia. [/b] You are Qabiilest number one. if you are not you would able to read between the lines thus being rational. You are just supporting dadkaada in ay muslimiinta xaqooda dafiraan. that is all.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Jaylaani, Redka is a reasonable man and needs no defense. He may not be doing every think he can inuu gacan siiyo dadkiisa but thats hardly an excuse to attack his argument. The man believes in Islam and chooses it over particular geography and region. Who can top that, i ask? Anyone? Soo bax, haddii kale dam-damta meesha kala taga, i say! The man (Read Sea is islamist unionist USC/ICU spokes person under screen.

Red Sea seeking a post in ICU. wow.

Originally posted by Mr.Red Sea: Jaylaani, 1) Diinta Islamka ah,ha lagu xukum SL iyo meelkasta oo ay Somali degto,kabacdi markaas ayey walaaltinimo jiri doontaa ,xumaantan jirtaana markaas albaabka ayey kabaxaysaa,oo waxaad arki doontaa Hargeysa oo laba laab qurux badnaatay,nabad iyo sharaf ku nool yiin dadkii waayo Allah ayey sharfeen iyagan Allah sharfayaan,xumaan oo dhan ahna ka ilaalinaya. taas ayaan rabaa anigu. Kamalu Diin, Walaalo,adigu waxan aad is dhexwado maba saconayaan,wax USC layidhaahdaa majirto,warkaa waa laga tagay inaabti. Indha Cadde,waa shakhsi sida Riyale uu shakhsi uyahay, 2) toobad keen Allahna markasta way banaanta. Meeshu aad leeday wuu haystaana, 3) dadka degan ayaa raba in Shareecada Islamka lagu xukumo, 1) You are funny brother. Laba frass baad fuush shanayd hadaadse hal faras baa fuushey. maxaa yeelay waxaad leedahay mar hadii ay Meel kasto oo aynu (Somalis) joogno spacifically North and South becomes under islamic rule then Hargeysa is gonna be double in its size/prosperity. I would like to say, since you are in dennial of Somaliland's progresses, its improvement made, and calling Somaliland is sharing Southern Somalia's tribal hatered, you are funny man. 2) You have more info (memo or pressrelease) of Indhacade ka tobadkeenay wixii uu ku sameeyey Shabelleda Hoose. provide it to us. spokesman. sorry my brother. 3) You have more info (memo or pressrelease) of Indhacade being elected by Shabelleda Hoose inhabitants. provide it to us. spokesman. sorry my brother.

Who is gonna buy this "Froreing army presence in Somalia"> Only offspring (shabaab/ICU) of USC who blindlesslly see one side of the equation (UN report of 8000 ethipians and 2000 Eriterians on somalia soil). While those countries have being disputing having army in Somalia. Only widely known (un-disputed) few hundreds of Ethipian technocrats who are helping TFG to stand it feet, and spoted but disputed Al-Qa'eda/Jihadist with offspring(shabaab/ICU) of USC conrolled area. Offspring (Shabaab/ICU) of USC I have question for your. Why you see as foreing one side of the equation and not other? Rational comment only.

this is not the first man who marries accross trible line. I guess it is polical add . I wish if they going to do such political add Sahal, 35, supports the Islamists and says Mr Ahmed's speech convinced him to go ahead with the wedding, despite his parents' opposition. they would rather open a court dedicated to give thousand who having romantic affair to come out the closed and start marring each other like Sahal and ZamZam just like it happened in Boston Gay, San Francisco and leave behind romance outside marriage. Sahal and Zamzam had been seeing each other secretly for five years but neither ever really believed their romantic dream would end in marriage period.

Baashi and Peace now thumps up. Good work.

Thanks Juje .....

It is really sad .... this reminds me the USC warlords' claim of which A/Y painted as an enemy of USC thus remnants whom are coming/invading Mogadishu for refenge with help of Ethiopia that is how those warlords created eneminosity against A/Y in among USC, but the worst was when these proboganda picked up by ICU and spead among Somalis whom seem ICU as alternative choice against warlords whom stands for peace and prosperity in among Somalis where ever they are. On other hand ICU added more claims A/Y is bringing our enemy into our county, A/Y (warlord president) is equal to those we kicked out of Mogadishu. etc. Those claims are echoed many ears of us, and blindless supporting this. I If you fall into this trab you are cheap man. I believe we shouldn't set a bad precedent such as opposing after one is being elected and this specially true when we didn't have a symbol that stood for us. I was previously did not think that he would last his entire term in the office, sorry I am not wishing him to die but I thought he was ill (liver transpalant)so on. Let this old man take his time in the office. I argue among USC communities to rally behind your president and let us start a new chapter. please.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Hadee Xabasho wax kuu galaan aad dhibsaneysid midownimada iyo walaaltinimada Soomaalida, adigee ku jirtaa. Yaa ku dhahay xabashaa u danaaninaa sxb. Mid kasta dano gaar ah ayuu u dhimanayaa adiga nafsadaada xataa waxaa dhahday Aniga waxaan kasaa Ibbi iyo Fowsiyo oo labodoodaba muucaarad ku ah TFG sidaas daraadeed adiga waxaa lagu dhihi karaa investment tigaada ayaad ilaasanoosaa. your opnionkaada it is biased therefore can't be considered to be objective.

Ouch .... I am in pain my brothers are dying righ.

These reports are outdated what is today's date... please don't wast time searching an outdated information.

Little scape from the reality.................. this shows ....................................

Paragon you are enyojing Somalia's is going into civil-war. don't you thing the country divided into groups. even if one looses the remaining one will have difficult to bring the people together. that is what you are happy about thanks. waxaba ha iga siin waxa aad ka hesho.

Ouch I was hit in the head by a bad news.

Fanisha Lol could you explain to be what you mean Qabiilest.

Duuliyesare let us come for discussion .... I would like to ask you ......................... what you call Maxkamadaha are deep into politics then the call on religion do agree with me this point. I am not insulting them now. I am ready for real intelectual discussion if you are interesting.

Originally posted by Mr.Red Sea: kamalu Diin,you are good brother,but you must realize brother,that I share nothing with Omar Arte Ghalib,maybe from the same tribe nothing more though, 1) I am not supporter of who he supporter . One thing,you should know, 2) I don't care who is who as long as their agenda is based on the Quran,then they have my support all the way. I hope I made sense walaalow. Mr. Red Sea I am sorry that we don't see the things on a same page. For the truth ICU is an offspring of USC but it went through many stages such Samatabixinta stage where you could see all the warlords, offspring (shabaab) and Maxakamadaha. in addition to that when Abdikasim was president he went mutiple times to Maxkamada Shiirkole ee cidiisa. Waa kuwii Radio TNG biliqaystay hadana la soo baxay. these guys you supporting blindlessly they don't stand for Somalifiyon and you don't like to bring Somaliland please don't legitimace over other poor somalians. I have seen your other voice inside you is much intriguing to me that is the dialogue. I preffer that. the second thing you mentioned this guy did not supported directly but what he supported on latter become the source of the problem which it could be ill-intentioned act but it could be un-intentational too.

Originally posted by Tahliil: So freaking funny when Yeey tries to scare people with such ridiculous lines: that some mullah in Mogadishu who actually cleaned up and beautify his house with peace and justice will march down the road to Bosaso and level it to the ground or otherwise conquer it and Hawayanize the residents with Sharia law which as Abdullahi says will amputate hundreds everyday of the week if he doesn’t stand their way in Baydhabo of all places. I mean even though Bosaso is off course and the opposite direction from Baydhabo...ahahaha…Bush (the father of all fear-monger fathers) won't even stoop that low to think of using such phony charges and absurd and outlandish and wild accusation to incite and manipulate people. Fortunately though the people of Putland are much wiser than Yeye and GEdi…they know and appreciate for the monumental task their brethren in the South has achieved….Gaal dil gartiisana sii…I only feel sorry for Abdullahi Yeey and his dabodhilif and galloraac stooges.. Doesn’t the guy have a family, a friend, someone, anyone with a decent heart nearby who can just tell him that it’s about time to quit…? Tahliil are you an offspring (Shabaab) of the USC don't deny this.

HornAfrika sees them having a different agenda period. If HornAfrik didn't understood THEN when his uncle understood them which is a year ago - HornfAfrik was too late to change the mind. Bare re-acted to late their preparation of intrution. USC/ICU were undermining him since he left the balcad meeting when USC/ICU was under SAMATABIXINTA umbrella. USCU/ICU they brought MORGAN and JEES and then qaad ayay u qaadeen way lafa gureen his weaknesskiisa oo dhan. the result was fruitfull.

Red Sea iyo Ahmed Guree anigaa kuu dhaamo iyagu waxaa ay u taagan yihii USC/ICU said this, that iyo iskudir. believe me I am much better in that matter.

Originally posted by HornAfrique: I would rather see Somalia fall into the hands of an institution even if the clans of Mogadishu are part off then a movement that has been taken hostage by a select group from its earlier more nobler objectives . Horn Afrik you have ......................... an info ................... If you don't provide then I assume noble as the kid(Qalaad) from London who signed for indha-cade's clan side in formation of JVA. if that is true this guy left east london in uu Jahwareeriyo ayuun buu u aaday kismayu Waa la daba dhigay film ayaa loo Cayaaray. I am very sorry to what happened to Bare Hiiraale he stand on nationalism is more acceptable then USC/ICU he trusted.

Originally posted by Kamalu Diin: Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH: [qb] HornAfrique Are you the same man who used to claim Ethio invasion would unite Somalis against "the common enemy"? If you look back last two years political landscape has been an interesting one because there were a lot of re-alliment/polarization to pre 1991. in 2000 there was SDM firm, SNF, SPM, Juba Valley Allience firm. numerious minor Faction of USC, and Puntland and a lot of non armed parties including SAMO, SNU, and SSNM. Since then it is history. SPM previously being two opposing groups and finaly most its supporters withdraw their support of its leader except few diehards. I guess both leaders are sharing in one room in mogadishu. what a nice ending. its supporter are divided exect half and half into opposing colums. SDM is not as firm any more and its supporter are devided into two opposing colums. mostly TFG. SNF and JVA is out of the map its supporter are under TFG. Noteably USCxxx of Hassan Qalid alaha u naxariistee was divernt bread of USC who stand firm against their enemy USC/SNA now that dariishada aya cabaxday. waxaa tusaale kuu ah Abdulahi Osable minister of Education TFG now he is in Hamar from Johar column to the roots (USC) Minors of USC's re-grouping is credited with Warlord not ICU. because they are the one who set the tone (called A/Y traitor) or break the barier (eniminosity among themsleves). Almost all of the Puntlander are supporting TFG as well as Puntland STATE withing Federal system which all other than USC/ICU are supporting federation as well. Now we have two groups and each group has backing of laan dheerayaashii ku dagaalamay Somalia or USC(meercats) vs REMNANTS period. USC/ICU's primemary reason of opposing or boycotting the system which is based on Federal. and the rest is Rethoric. Amxaaro ayaa noo sameysay ama xukun islaam ayaan isku xukumaynaa. In reality Somalia we don't have political parties instead we have Tribal parties (jabhado) Political reality of the ground changes you must change along your tribe. ceeb ma ahan. I hope Horn doesn't deny this. If I were him I would clearly would state so. Wixii la qariyo qurun ayaa ku jira soomaaliyeey. tribes have perseption each other therefore they need to talk the talk not the religion or nationalism cover up. Bare Hiiraale and his uncle (Omar h. Masle) allied with USC with two perception mind, and they were based on first SSDF (puntlander) much worest than USC (part of USC). The USC showed of interest of Nationalism. which was fake to start with one trashed the other bad sing don't follow some one on imotional apeal such nationalism or the religion. However, SNF/JVA were die hard nationlist ileen Siyad Bare baner uu ahaa. Nabee kuwaan mar dandanbe lama siro. Recent re-allietion process put Bare into the federal column thus most of supporters EX-SNF/JVA become TFG colum.

Originally posted by AYOUB_SHEIKH: HornAfrique Are you the same man who used to claim Ethio invasion would unite Somalis against "the common enemy"? If you look back last two years political landscape has been an interesting one because there were a lot of re-alliment/polarization to pre 1991. in 2000 there was SDM firm, SNF, Juba Valley Allience firm. numerious minor Faction of USC, and Puntland. Since then is history. SDM is not as firm and its supporter are devided into two opposing colums. mostly TFG. SNF and JVA is out of the map its supporter are under TFG. Minors of USC's re-grouping is credited with Warlord not ICU. because they are the one who set the tone (called A/Y traitor) or break the barier (eniminosity among themsleves). Almost all of the Puntlander are supporting TFG as well as Puntland STATE withing Federal system which all other than USC/ICU are supporting federation as well. USC/ICU is their primemary reason as why they are boycotting this system. Amxaaro ayaa noo sameysay ha dhahaan ama yay dhihin. In Somalia we don't have political parties instead we have Tribal parties (jabhado) I hope Hornd not to deny this. If I were him I would clearly would say so.