6 candidates go to 2nd round of Somali presidential elections NAIROBI, Oct. 10 (Xinhuanet) -- Six of the 26 candidates will vie for the second round of Somalia's presidential elections in Kenya's capital Nairobi on Sunday, after a first ballot failed to give any candidate the two-thirds majority required for outright victory, a Xinhua correspondent at the voting site said. Unofficial results show that Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, 71, leader of the autonomous Somali region of Puntland, gained 80 votes in the first round of the elections, leaving the other 25 contestants far behind. Somali lawmakers started voting for president of the Horn of Africa country on Sunday. The new president is expected to appointa prime minister to form a government, mandated to lead Somalia through a five-year transitional period. A total of 28 contestants including a woman were competing for the presidency in what is widely seen as the culmination of a tortuous two-year peace process in Kenya, mediated by the regionalInter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD). However, two presidential aspirants withdrew from the contest at the last minute, leaving 26 candidates to take an oath binding them to abide by whatever results from the voting. According to election organizers, in the likely event of no candidate obtaining more than two-thirds of the ballot, the top six runners will go to a second round. If none of them gains a two-thirds majority, the two leading candidates will face off in a third round, on a simple majority basis. Since the breakdown of the Somali central government in 1991, conflict and famine have killed hundreds of thousands of people, plunging the country into anarchy. Under the auspices of IGAD, which groups Djibouti, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Kenya, Sudan, Uganda and Somalia, Somali National Reconciliation Conference began in October 2002 in Kenya. The presidential elections come after the election of the speaker of the transitional federal parliament of Somalia on Sept.15 and his two deputies on Sept. 22 and the inauguration of the transitional parliament on Aug. 29. End item

I must say I am abit surprised with the first round results. I did not think there would be such a large gap between Abdullahi Yusuf and Adullahi Addow. But there are now 79 odd parliamentarians who must reconsider their options and decide who of these top six to vote for. Any thoughts? What I wouldn't give to see Otali's reaction....

Wareegii koowaad wuxuu ku dhamaaday sidan: C/lahi Yusuf = 80 Mohamed Qanyare = 33 C/llahi Cadow = 34 C/raxman Barre = 17 Caabdiqasim = 15 Inj Caddow = 14 Somali presidential candidates from left to right, Abdikasim Salat Hassan, Abdirahman Jama Bure and Abdulahi Ahmed Adow take an oath on the Koran to abide by the election results, Sunday, Oct 10, 2004 A Somali woman casts her ballot, Sunday, Oct 10, 2004 during the election for a new transitional Somali president in Nairobi, Kenya. Somali presidential candidate Abdulahi Yusuf Ahmed, left, stands next to an unidentified election official, just after he had taken an oath on the Quran to abide by the election results, Sunday, Oct. 10, 2004 A Somali man and woman cast their ballots, Sunday, Oct. 10, 2004 during the election for a new transitional Somali president in Nairobi, Kenya. A group of Somali men listen to the news trough their radios on the streets of the Somali capital Mogadishu.

With or without government, diaspoa Somalis must take it upon themselves help their communities back home. The impact they can have is very inspiring. I commend organizations like HIRDA, HornRelief, and SSHDA for their work.

Originally posted by Saxardiid: For example government must move all ministry of fishers activities to Lasqory while they ministry of agriculture's work and resources concentrates in Gabilay. SL ministry in Las Qoray...good one.

Mojam, Which sat dish/receiver are you using to receive BTV1 in N. America? What was the total cost? Is there a subscription for STN or is it still a free trial? And lest I forget; I, Bari_Nomad, PROMISE TO ACCEPT WHOEVER IS ELECTED ON SUNDAY 10/10/2004.

I am at a loss; perhaps you can post links of the articles from allpuntland and puntlandpost.

Originally posted by SmithNwestern: I dont agree, if he losses both he has no excuse and no one from Puntland or any where will support him in derailing the new government. If Abdullahi losses on Sunday and does not get the PM position then he will have to retire from politics.Puntland,Mohamed Abdi Hashi should take over and welcome the new government with open arms. What ever happens lets support the new government. I agree on all points, well said.

Never mind the rest of the world, this individual is a danger to himself.

Originally posted by HornAfrique: The fact of the matter is you say you didn't support Morgan, yet 75% of his militia was composed of your cousins and uncles and a good majority of the backing was done by your cousins and uncles. Yet you didn't support them? Acuudubillahi mina shaytaani rajiin. That is, without a doubt, the most detestable and repugnant statement you have made on this forum. It truly speaks volumes of your twisted thinking. What was in the water that you drank that wasn't in the water they're drinking in that same village of Widhwidh that's part of your signiture? It is not enough to be defamatory and insulting towards me, but you feel you must defile the good name the people of Widhwidh as well? You have reached lows I could hardly have imagined.

Ciidamada Ka Soo Galay Dhinaca Maamulka Riyaale Oo Saaka ay La kulmeen Wasiiro Iyo Saraakiil. Full Article Here

Nationalist, I think the opposit. As it currently stands there are six regions represented in the PL parliament. In the next election, ina Xaashi will carry votes from Sool, Cayn and Sanaag. Cadde will, in contrast, have his support in Bari and perhaps Nugaal. Reer Mudug, knowing they won't have the top position, will likely put their support behind Ina Xaashi due to the rivalry with reer Bari. IMHO.

First of all NOTHING I HAVE WRITTEN CONCERNS BARI-NOMAD, and as such I have nothing, absaloutely nothing to say to the hypocrite. Fair enough...I shall not expect further questions or comments directed towards me from you... Where is the hypocrite Bari-Nomad, I dare say not crying over Morgan again? Bari_Nomad if you are not being hypocritical, condemn Morgan for hiding there knowing full well that he was in the middle of war and by invading Dhoobley he would be bringing tragedy and destruction on to its inhabitants! Horn, Can you not stay consistant on a single thing? Your emotional outbursts would better suited elsewhere. May I suggest the Teen Section, "Mr" HornAfrique... Perhaps I should forgive him, as he seems upset at the truth of his hero, this warcriminal and gacan ku dhiigleh, Barre Adan 'Hiraale'. As for your view that I support Morgan, that is beyond my comprehension. We are not all of your mindset, thank Allah. Lakiin, somaalidu Waxaay yidhaadaan,"Doqon dib bay wax ka garataa." Be a good chap; do inform us know when the fog clears. Perhaps you can inform us why you continue to blindly support Barre Hiraale and the JVA?

Alhamdulillah.

Originally posted by Xoogsade: Bari Nomad, The reason HA told others to wait and not rush to conclusions before the facts came out If that were only the case. In fact, HA came to his own conclusions based on Gedonet.com and his "uncle in Kismayo", that Barre Hiraale and Yusuf Indha-Cadde were infact innocent men, good hearted and "rightious" who were having their "good names" smeared. Clearly we were all able to see through his charade and he fouling non but himself. I think because of HIS unwillingness to associate with voilence against innocents. No doubt he was in denial, which was only compounded by his usual lengthy bouts of delusion. And now that he saw it, he said the right thing. No, the right thing for him to do now would be to disassociate himself from these criminals by withdrawing his unflinching support for warlord Barre Hirraale(HA prefers the MP title), and his occupying forces. As for 'saying' the right thing, he can begin by acknowledging what the JVA/Yusuf Indha-Cadde militia's did in Dhoobley. However, if continues his support then we shall all know his standings....

Horn, So it has taken these distrubing photos for you to realize how destructive those who you support are. I can recollect you forcefully stating that "Barre Hiiraale is not in it, nor is Indha-cadde." That in fact the destruction of this entire town was perpetuated by "two cousins fighting over a young maiden". Wishful thinking if I have ever come across it. Indeed, when SNW posted news reports of these hineous acts by the JVA/Indha-Cadde, you said "Smith anybody can write what they want, this is the net. You are just repeating ku tidhi kuteen." HornAfrique: "Here I was worrying about what death I would hear about concerning my family[i.e. my clan] yet never imagining the death on the other[clan] side." Its clear to everyone on which side you stand; with the occupier against the occupied. While other Somalis were worried for their brothers in Dhoobley, Afmadow, Buula Xaaji, Xaalima Caddey, and Hoosingow you were busy defending the actions of Barre Hiraale and Yusuf Indha-Cadde. Sadly, Dhoobley is neither the first nor the last to fall victim to these two and their maurading militia-gangs. And your 'forced empathy' is neither needed nor wanted. Soomaalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa, "Gardarraa ma guulaysto."

Sawiro laga soo qaaday Degmada Dhoobley kadib markii ay gubeen Maleyshiyooyinka Dooxada Jubba iyo Marka May Allah help these people and make their lives easier. Amiin. Click Here

HornAfrique: LooooL! You couldn't be more wrong. he is a buck-toothed braces wearing pimpled faced teenager with a receeding hairline neighbored by a forehead the size of Florida's "lost" voting ballots and a mind of a poliTRICKian on prozac. Ala, maxaan qoslay.

Admin, Waan ku fahmey. I assure you, there is no need to close topics and delete posts. Hada Kabacdi, I will be very easy on HornAfrique. Okaay? And apologies for the bother we have become as of late.

Ilaahy ha u naxariisto.

Described as : "..the "Mister" who is the ever-so-wretchedly defeated-has-been of the yesterday "Afweyniste's Regime" - Mr Oodweyne. Mr.Oodweyne certainly has a way with words... "our flag waving charlatan.....His, it ought to be noted, is a double-edged sword. On one sharp end, he wishes to gut the defenceless in a hyena-like fashion whilst on the other he bares a softy, bosomy posture alike of a gentle Alaskan bear only to suffocate the crowd with his humpty dumpy bear-hugging ménage à trois." - Samurai warrior How true your words have been shown to be

Soomaalidu waxay ku maahmaahdaa, "Doqon ha u gargaarin hana gargaarsan."

Originally posted by HornAfrique: You are saying here and there how Morgan was "wrong" to attack Kismayo Incorrect. You are becoming quiet the liar... I stated Morgan was wrong to, a)leave the conference, b)bring troops into the Jubba's and raise tensions. It was Barre who attacked Morgan's troops. You yourself, HornAfrique, stated: "All I have to add is I'm glad and overjoyed that Hiiraale didn't let Morgan attack first as I would be in deep mourning as of the current." That does not seem like the words of a 'self-styled nationalist'. Rather that is someone who cheers at the prospect of innocent blood being spilt in Somalia. One who's only thought is of his clansmen coming out ahead. Glad to see the mask has been fully discarded... yet you say rer "Puntland" are oppressed in the Jubba. It seems the trash Otali was spewing actually convinced you...All of the local inhabitants of Jubba are oppressed by your warlord and his 'Isbaheysiga' of walaalaha Galgaduud. Shan't we say it's hypocritical to say we support the reason for fighting and the fight itself, but we don't support the fighter. Ala, beentaan xaguu ka keenay? Not only the fighter, but indeed the fight itself was wrong. Indeed, the real reer Jubba can free themselves by peaceful means once Somalia has been reborn. Who would you have wanted to be the leader of the attack in place of Morgan, Col. Garamgaram? Sow ninkaan maha ninkii aad sheegtay indaad qabsadeen? Miskiinkaan oo siyaasada ka baxay ee nairobi joogey. Magaciisa afkaaga ka saar. We weren't born yesterday and it's making you look like a fool. War ninkaan eeg. Saaxiib jooji hadalkaas...adiguna is-ceebinaysa I support fighting against agression and to defending your freedom and peace. Alas, if that were only the case. No dear friend, you support a mad man, a warlord, and a war criminal. As you know Bari, there was peace, before the man you privately support/publicly against embarked on a fruitless escapade. Subxaan Allah! I was under the imppression that only Allah(swa) knew what was in the hearts of men. Perhaps that "god-like"(your words) figure, warcriminal Barre Hiraale came to you and whispered it to you last night. I haven't the faintest. Your line of reasong seems to be, if I dont support your warlord, then I must be supporting the opposing one. A flawed logic, if I have ever come across one. Do not forget that I, like you, am related to both of these men. Yet I see these warlords for what they are, while you are blindly supporting the one more closely related to you. Very sad indeed. They neither need nor deserve our support.

Horn, Alas, the times of stalling in the hopes of reprieve are at an end... Originally posted by Bari_Nomad: I believe that there should of at least been an attempt to resolve/mediate the situation. I'm confident the elders in the region would have been more then happy to accommodate these two individuals. If that had failed and Morgan had attacked Hiraale's militia then self defense may be employed. That of course, still does not excuse him for what occured in Dhoobley, but that is another debate altogether. That is my response, let others judge if I was "dodging", as you eluded to. Now would you be so kind as to answer mine: do you support this warlord, Barre Hiraale? If so, why? Simply state your conviction, worry not how others may interpret it...

That is very sad news indeed. Although, I have read of recent news of ONLF successes against the Ethiopian forces. Insha'Allah these will culminate into freedom for these Somalis. Dagaallo cadowga Itoobiya lagu jabiyay. Dagaallada u dhexeeya ciidamada xoraynta ******ya iyo kuwa cadawga Itoobiya ee ka socda dalka ******ya ayaa mar kastaba lagu jabiyaa ciidamada karmaha ah ee cadawga Itoobiya ku soo uruuriyay dalka ******ya, waxaana ugu denbeeyay; Dagaal 28/07/04 ka dhacay meesha lagu magacaabo Galamadoobe, oo degmada Iimay ka tirsan, waxaana ciidamada cadowga Itoobiya lagaga dilay dagaalkaas 2 askari, 2 kalana waa lagagadhaawacay. Dagaal 13/07/04 ka dhacay duleedka magaalada Godey ayaa ciidamada cadowga Itoobiya lagaga dilay 3 askari, halka 6 kalana dhaawac culus loo gaystay. Dagaal isaguna 11/07/04 ay ciidamada wadaniga xoreeynta ********ya ku qaadeen, qaar ka mid ah ciidamada gumaysiga Itoobiya oo ku sugnaa duleedka magaalada Iimay ayaa ciidamada cadawga Itoobiya lagaga dilay 6 askari, waxaana lagaga dhaawacay tiro kale oo badan balse aan la soo xaqiijin. Dagaal gaadmo ah oo ay ciidamada xoreeynta ********ya ku qaadeen 1/08/04 ciidamo Itoobiyaan ah oo marayay meesha lagu magacaabo Walaal-Goo’, oo degmada Dhanaan ka tirsan, ayaa ciidamada gumaysiga Itoobiya lagaga dilay 4 askari,in ka badan 9 kalana waa lagaga dhaawacay. Weerar gaadmo ah oo ay ciidamada geesiyiinta Jabhada wadaniga xoreeynta ********ya ku qaadeen 5/08/04 kolonyo ciidamada gumaysiga Itoobiya ka tirsan oo marayaya meesha lagu magacaabo Muddulka, oo Dhagaxmadow 10 km u jirta ayaa ciidamada cadawga lagaga gubay 2 Baabuur oo nooca looyaqaan Uraalka ah.waxaana halkaas ku naf waayay 50 askari oo labadaas baabuur saarnaa. 10/08/04 Dagaal ay ciidamada xoreeynta ********ya ku qaadeen koox ka tirsan ciidamada gumaysiga Itoobiya oo marayay Banka Qorraxay ayaa lagaga dilay 2 askari. Sidoo kale 5/08/04 waxaa ciidamada cadowga Itooboiya lagaga dilay meesha la yidhaahdo Laab 3 askari, 6 kalana waa lagaga dhaawacay. Dhinaca kale xukuumadda Itoobiya ayaa mar kale ku guulaystay inay dagaal ka oogto deegaanka Sallaxaad, oo marar badan oo hore ay hubka isugu dhiibtay dadwaynaha walaalaha ah ee deegaankaas ku wada dhaqan.Dagaalkan waxaa labadii dhinac ee iskaga horyimid kaga dhintay dad badan oo shacab ah.