Norf1 that would have been true if only there were "seasoned fellas" with good record to stand with. You have like of Cadde and Faroole who might be considered to be old foxes, but their broken record speak for them. Then you have the Gen. Ilka-jiir and Prof. Farjac, and they are both new to the arena just like he is. Some people were wondering how this selection/election going to happen. Based on Puntland's process of selection, you will need to get the majority of the vote in the parliament in the final round of vote casting. Now, the question is, who elects the members of the parliament? Well, each province has set numbers (qouto)of people that will represent them in the house, and the elders of each province select their members. I dont want go too much into this, bur what i know is that this time elders (not all from some regions mainly Mudug and Bari)have agreed to allow intectuals,business people,women group and even youth to take part in selection process. This will allow the people to have some say of who will represent them there. So, at least there will be good people in the house and that will make the difference. let us just sit and wait what happens between now and Jan 09.

What is so relevant of this day ya Horn? At least would have been good if you would open thread commemorating his death or birth, rather oct 21th which is irrelevant to today's Somalia. Why would you want people to throw insults back and forth on this diseased man? Dambi un baa kaa soo gaaraaya saa filaayo. Allah ha u naxariisto isagana.

Norf1, why are you hijacking the thread? if there is need for clarification of the issue you have with Puntland, its creation, or its president, I guess you should open a new thread for that. For Fahiye, you said you know the guy both in Somalia and in Pakistan, yet you haven't prove any point why he is not suitable for the post. All you are doing is to shout from you lungs and spread lies. You dismiss rest of the people in SOL and expect your opinion on him to stand. If there is personal grunge between you 2 so be it, but stol this nonsense. About the experience thing some point out, gimme a break guys, since when experience and Somali politician go hand in hand? experience kulahaa, from Riyaale to Cadde Muse illaa iyo Bai**** inta fadhisa xornimo markii la qaaday illaa hadday badankood joogeene, maxay baddaleen?

^^ aha, what a dishonest piece of "you know" you have murmured there. Your mumbling tone says it all my dear friend. Thousands of Puntlanders have put their trust in him when they needed him most and he has performed the duties that were trusted in him honorably and truthfully. There are countless people here in SOL that know the man and worked with him both in the UK and in Somalia, and they said nothing, but good things about him. He worked with numerous UN agencies with UNICEF being his last. So,for you to come out and dishonestly assassinate his character and integrity will not work. Come up with something tangible and facts or else shush it. Wonder what is your motive brushing him with all of these lies you wrote on SOL screen.

Nuradinmania indeed, he is new bred of Somali politician. He is young, very charismatic, and extremely intelligent(i sound like selling the dude eh.)I guess a lot of ya'll know him too and confirm my assertions. Paragon, there is some sort of understanding between him(Nuradin)and Gen Ilka-jiir, and I have the sense that them two might pair(pre/vp) if one wins. I know they are 2 front runners that will likely win(if fair selection is held that is.) Let us just hope that Cadde does come back.

Zack, he is indeed running for the Puntland presidency and he did campaign in Punland, but the reason why he was in North America was to get the support of the diaspora morally and financially as well.

Che, he never intended to come to Boston to begin with and reer Pakistan in Boston either went to Mnpl or Columbus to meet him. Enough crowd came in all the three places he has visited and that was a good thing for him. All in all, let us hope that he gets the post he's running for.

War maxaa meeshan boor la iskugu qarinaa.. We all know that clan names are banned, but people metaphorically use the clan names. People use(negatively)words such as "secessionist,looters,da.ba.******s" when we all know it's meant to hurt certain people. So, people became so accustomed to this kind of low blows long time ago and if there is need to clean up place, I don't think it should start with certain individuals. That is my 2 kumi. AT&T, soo anigii ku iri iska har ninkaan DQ ah, maxaa ku daba dhigay wali. Teeda kale you throw some low blows sometimes too. Marka ninkii qabiil caaya asagay u taalaaya ha iska waalin ninyahow.

Waxaan uga harayaa bal in your wishfull thinking miro dhalo.

What if those Somalis you said are sleeping with the enemy have more men in the camp that you support? More men than they have in the "enemy camp."

Red sea, to rally your tolka is not a bad idea at all. Your argument though has some holes brother. To point out some, you call some Somalis as hypocrites for not standing with the Shabaabs while you justify your tolka for doing the same. You call your tol "bystanders" and "isolationists" and added that you understand where they are coming from. If you really believe what this guys stand for as you asserted (muslinimo and somalinimo) then why can't you embrace that and drop this Land you so obsessed with.

War heedhe Abtigiisow, adigiiba wax tuur joojin la'a maxaan wax qabanaa dee. Adigu sidii aad uga soo hor jeeday peace caravan kii baad heshiiskanna u diidan tahay soo maaha? See how many fronts baad ka dagaalamaysid.

Xiinow ninku heshiiska ma diidanee bal adna soo dag oo darinta fidi..

Originally posted by Resistance: Is well known that thespritual and Ideological leaders of Al-Shabaab are orginally Somaliland. So i can see where Red Sea is going with this. Could you enlighten us and tell all of these spiritual leaders that we don't know of? Even if there are thousands of northers in this group doesn't anything, as they ideology and agenda stand much wider than Land this and that.

Would have been good if you would call on all Somalis rather your own Tolka. You said Somalilanders, and then mention few towns. Then you went on wrote this somalilanders like Sh. Saylici (current chair of Kismayo), Sh. Mukhtar Abuzubeir, commander of Alshabaab, Gen. Mohamed Ghalib, duputy of the ICU and the hundreds of fighters from Burco and Hargeysa participating in the Jihad and dying there. Now, do you think these guys call themselves Somalilanders? I doubt it. My advise to you is that if you call on all Somalis to stand up and unite do it so, if not then just keep my reer is better than the rest crap.

BOB, speaking of those Nigerian low budget movies, can you believe that Somalis in the States (or at least in my town)are crazy about them. Every house you visit, you would see an entire family sitting down and watching the kind of movies. I wonder sometimes if they can even understand that accent at all( Eeh mo brodha hoo r yuh? i yom fontantik eeeh.) And about the giving HIV thing that really funny to say the least.

Xiinow, brother AT&T intent wasn't to ignite a full blown war with you, but I guess meela uusan rabin ayay ka adaay xabaddu. Marka don't finish that gabay and spare the firing shots, this goes to both of you.

Geelka, did you check that video real close? wlahi I couldn't believe the way of these people's thinking..

McCain camp is sinking so fast that their last resort is to name call, belittle, and smear Obama's good name.

Waryaa AT&T, I thought you have started this thread with good intention, telling Xiin to repent from the peace caravan. But now I see it as another thread of fist fight between you and Xiin, and you've already took your gloves off. Back to the peace caravan Vs barrel of the gun approaches. It seems to me that AT&T, your idea of Somali conflict starts and end with Ethiopian presence in Somali and ends with their departure. Where Xiin's stand on the conflict (or at least the way he sees it) is based on Somali's long going civil war that started decades ago. Now, his approach of bringing Somalis together to the wider DIRIN (as some call it)while our enemy are still present in our land, might sound gullible to lot of people, but it is a noble and the only way out of this mayhem. Your approach never worked before and will not work in Somalia even if these gaagaabs leave this night. It was Somalis that were killing each other before these guys came in and will remain the same if they departure. So, stop discouraging the brother or any one else who supports peace over the GUN..And one more thing, that gabay was deelqaas, see kaa noqotay sow adigii lahaa waxaan ka imi weyla lagu xidh?

"The government of Somalia will be preparing documents as swiftly as possible on the establishment of diplomatic relations with South Ossetia, as well with Georgia and Abkhazia," Mohamed Handule said.

Can't they not convert it for whatever institution they want? It was only a build and most likely a decay one.

This gangster thing is getting out of hand lately. Friend of mine told me a group of so called "Somali gangsters" went in to Somali restaurant in Nashville,TN to rob. The place was full of people breaking iftar, mostly Somali cap drivers. Not only did they rob the cashier, but also customers at gun point. What is mind boggling though is not how daring they were for robbing a Somali business with full of Somali people, but the conduct of victims that been robbed at gunpoint. I was told that no one bothered to report to the police, but instead went on to beg the guys (gangs)family/clan elders just to get some of the IDs and social security cards in their wallets back. So, the problem is in everywhere maryooley reside. From small town America to the big metropolitans, and as long we hide them or give them the status "they are so tough and dangerous" we will remain the same and witness more horrendous crimes.

Taking them pics were not the point i bet..Anyways, lets wish entire nation to get more rain falls this year.

^^You're little paranoid ma istiri? What if i happened to be one of above and yet not an anti-puntland?