^What is it with you man, If I don't get the meaning of the word suicide bomber does that warrant your anger towards me, or is your topic far too important to be understood... Aright, I understand the meaning of the word but how does it relate to the interclan conflict. PS: What does your latest report of peace efforts got to do with this topic?

^Overreacting are we? What's so sensitive about that, in some cases and in the context it was made unholly phrases could be employed at times.. You need to chill out son.

Alshabaab are no similar to any group seen in the Somali peninsula, they are mostly youth like the true sense of the world Ashabaab means, they have no leader to represent or at least unknown to the world to be talked, seen, interveiwed or discussed with. They have no desire to listen to anyone who's against their will. Many in this thread have actually based their argument in support for this movement because of the Ethiopian presence and the fact that they are fighting against the Ethiopians and the TFG, you reiterated this point far too many times, let me repeat it for you again. 1. They are brave young men fighting against the TFG and the Ethiopian troops and thats why you support, I understood that point, no need to repeat it again. Now lets talk about the things that matter rather than dwelling on the things that we agree upon... Alshabaab what do they stand for? Is their mission of installing Islamic state in the Somali peninsula by force achievable? Lets imagine for the sake of argument they drove the Ethiopian out of the country and conquared all of the Somali lands, what after that? Fight with America or try to be diplomatic this time?.... and on the other hand lets imagine they never did achieve that goal of liberating the land, will they continue with the rampage killing and their 'Takfiir' slogan? Who might they listen to as their Spiritual leader? Can they be contained or controlled? I don't think anyone has answers for this questions. Clearly what inspires these young men is not interest and nothing but religion, agreed to that, however, unfortunately in the wrong path, and that's why I see them as a very dangerous movement, I have never been so much frightened from any Somali group like them, and we will witness what they will come up with next... All I see is a gathared youth so energetic willing to die and kill for what they believe, inspired by religion(wrongly so), with no known religious nor political leader and have no feasible mission to achieve, forcefully trying and doing it nevertheless and on the route justifying the murder of many innocents... the outcome is a disaster if you ask me. Even the warlords used to deny when they kill or down play the level innocent deaths during an exchange of fire. However the Alshabaab are happy about it, have Kitaab with them to justify it and would take down below the groud if ones dares to ask or doubts their action, the Takfiir slogan is easily found in their pockets, and the 'you are infidel' is overused in their street... recently a father was murdered because he visited Villa Somalia to ask the release of his arrested Son, another sad incident were the death of a young boy sold his Mobile phone to an Ethiopian solider, now what Diin is that???? Im not making this allegations from nowhere and I am aware that you all know my postion, but it happened, they do it out in the open and the fact that Alshabaab wants you (the Somali nation) to see no evil hear no evil. You should never talk, interact, walk, bee seen with or even look at the infidels or you will be another infidel. Some in here might suggest that (others have already) they do not share and support the group's ideology but their struggle and action against the Ethiopians, you have missed one big simple point: The idea behind the action is far more important than the action itself, how could you be supporting the action if you think their root ideology is wrong and given that the action materialised how would you contain the ideology later... Alshabaab, no better introduction to Somalia.

Absolutely amazing clip, thanks yaa Dhubad. It shows hope is never lost in Mogadishu, never give up... Pray for Peace in the Capital

^Acuudu Bilaah, this clearly shows the limit of the western culture of indecency Berlosconi is another brainless ediot, even thou is too hard to stay with an ungly woman even if she is just a political colleague he should have been more politically correct, never raise such comment on public, BAASTAARDO dio Bone.

What is the correlation between an interclan conflict and a suicide bomber, I am aware of, know, have heard and read about many clan based conflicts but WTF is a suicide bomber? Yeah, WTF is a suicide bomber?

Lol, Xoogsade relying on any trash published on the Net.... Granted he did what you posted would that make your position against him even more stronger? You have always been against him. Lol, you and some of the oppostions individuals that lack wisdom have no open mind to what he says or does whether bad or good, nothing will ever change your stance so what is the point of wasting your time...

^Who declared Jihad on who and When? Besides 2 years old news which is written in French doesn't help at all. Now what is the supposed news claiming to present, I know Jack of what is written in there, only two languages allowed in SOL: English and Somali, you as a Dj man can try Afari if you must but never attempt any other lingo

JB atheer ma Oday dhaqameedyadi hala iska caayaa sheekadu maraysaa... The difference is crystal clear only the secessionists ayuu mugdi kaga jiraa, who have political disagreement with Garaad Saleebaan, a man who had throught been passionately against their secession ideals... Here are two simple differences if you aad kuqancaysid, that Garaad Saleebaan is not a looter never have been one, and that he is one of the real and respected Somali traditional leaders, A garaad of a Somali clan in the North of Somalia unlike Ahmed Diiriye the self proclaimed spokesman of the H clan. This is the end of my bit in this thread, I hope it will be unchallenged by any of the Garaad supporters.

^Good morning to you brother, Saaxib Ood jiidideeda iyo qaadideeda waa un guri geyn, isku meel baan wax uwadnaa so lets leave there...

^You need to mention the status of the third figure, that was my first reply's assertion... You kept repeating yourself in your last three or four posts what you pointed out your first, now that is a form of a recorded cassete or a programmed software, Xagee lagugu soo Program-gareeyay in dadka kale dhan wasaq yihiin adigana nafiif tahay, Beerta Xoriyada Hargeisa??? Open your mind yaa JB and answer the questions posed without acting like a software tool, it's only a discussion forum.

^You don't have to reiterate yourself, you can eloborate on whether the third figer pointer is dirty or not...

^Saaxib I agree with you but without complicating the issue fighting agaisnt the Kufr is Jihaad and not Fitnah, and in your interpretation Fitnah = Gaalo... Which again fighting against that Fitnah becomes Jihaad... But on the Whole the word Fitnah is ragarded and widely used as a Muslim civil war that based on groups and different ideologies... There So many different meaing of the word UMMA in the Quran as well, but it is widely used for the nation al Islam... Very simple...

^And who is pointing out that not only one but two or perhaps more people to be dirty, I guess is not dirty!

AbuGeeljire, In that context Fitna means disbelief... The Ayaha says: (8:39) "So fight them until there is no more disbelief (fitnah) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone" Or ..."Waqaatiluhum Xata la takuuna Fitna". In this context Fitna = disbelief/Gaalo/Kufr...

This elder is no brainer, another Xaaraan kunaax the master minder of the looters inc... Nonesese parking that lack wisdom and vision has always been his culture... Many of SOLers have pointed out that long ago, its time to face him for what he is, progress, many have now... I can assume that his reiteration and apology has to do with a witheld phone call, a no number call as it is refered in Somalia, otherwise the death and beheading is inevitable. Scared!

Toure used the word 'Fitna'. Now unless you derive a whole new meaning for the word, there is no way that can be classified with the TFG and the Ethiopian forces, you may have other terms for them such as Occupying/peace keeping forces and traitors or the Somali army.... it's your personal choice... Fitna is widely known as an Islamic civil war amongst the Muslims which is based on ideology or sects and groups that lead to the disagreement of the Muslim Ulema and gives the green light for the beheading of innocent Muslims while using religion to justify it... Fitna from Wikipedia: It is often used to refer to civil war, disagreement and division within Islam and specifically alludes to a time involving trials of faith, similar to the Tribulation in Christian eschatology.

^Yes I do agree with you Toure on this one, beyond any disagreement we ever had and any interclan conflict Somalis ever witnessed, this is the greatest challenge and risk that the country and the people will have to come to terms with... We can get rid of dictators, colonialists, warlords and any other power that's interested in power and material world but it's hard to defeat an idealogy, it is even worse when the elements that carry the ideology is within yourself... I pray and hope good for Somalia

And he's exercising for the London Mayor, I am not stunned because he condoned the article regarding the black IQ but the fact that he apologised... What a silly crap little headles man he is...

^What calculator did you use my friend, don't tell me this one below: In that case I can easily spot the error, that calculator is too complicated for you my friend, try use the basic ones...

Malaha Yaxaaska Mujaahidiinta ayuu katirsanaa! Otherwise what is the significance of the report knowing that the Yaxaas as Xayawaan will not know the difference between a Tigre, a Mujahid or an Irish man and will eat as it's diet and a source of food.

You need to get your but on here frequent enough to know who is who, it's your homework... If you pay me I will let you know. PS: I am your long lost enemy

^I feel the temper, it's just a game, take it easy... Liverpool Woohooo, but honestly they did play very well tonite and deserved the win... got through to the Semifinals and are waiting for the next londoners on the seat, Chelsea here we come... better be scared, Hayey kacabso

I knew there was something nuky with the story, Ibti thanks for the update the clarification...

^Lol, Calling for the right man, I guess Nepthy's call waa la ajiibay , If Oodwayne joins it will become a torture, an essay of 4 pages long about that bloody referendum and constitution with frequently bolded text is on its way... Originally posted by Suldaanka: ex-Mafia Southerners. , the former Mafia men now turned warlords of the South are yet to let SL secede... you need to come to terms to the fact, Waqooyi galbeed is stil part of the former republic, when you get that recognition let me know... One more fact about the Wala-Wayn issue, the Somali and South regions of Bay and Bakool alone have more population than the entire traingle of Burco-Hargeisa-Berbera...