^Qiil uu uraadiyay wax uma jeedo ninkaas laakiin waxaan arkaa inuu tilmaamay Alshabaab inayan wanaag lahayn.. at least thats what you quoted. I think Somalinimada hal koox baa sharciyaysa!

^Hillary is all gone, no chance to chatch up, even the republicans have started to treat Obama as their opponent in the general election and thrown the lady out of the contest.... Here is the republicans national commitee website advert propaganda showing and attacking Obama while Mcain is the man for the Job... now its most likely all coming down to the top job, no more democrat contest... Link

This is a very tragic story, however I doubt it is at the level JB's Afnugaal is reporting... Afnugaal is turning this into a political game and exagerrating it far too much to be truely believed...

This lady is using anything, swipes all cards and even goes one step further to dry all the overdrafts available... Clinto camp have always employed dirty politiks and compaign, this is another line whispered to her, laakiin way is ceebaynaysaa...

^ . that was good one, I think you and Marc are getting it wrong, this is the not same Ayaan Hirsi you thought you are talking about... Hubsiimo hal baa lasiistaa, marka hadagdagin... Brilliant job by Ayaan Hirsi, I mean this young lady from toronto and not the other Sicko...

^Not fake Indhacade like Sheikhs, Lol... I scrapped the above in a rush, Sir Alex's Apprentice ayaan ku ordaayay, Caawa he was so pissed off and fired two candidates , Abu Sorry that was out of topic...

Very good article, I agree in most of the points raised, I don't see the fuss is being made about someone agreeing with some of the points raised in it. I completely agree that Politics and religion can not be seperated in the Somalia, religion should remain at the top of the Somali decision making process. While extremist groups of all forms must be shunned, sensible groups with strong Islamic foundations and values must be welcomed into Somalia's political arena, as both a matter of practicality and a venue to marginalize extremists hiding behind a cloak of Islam. Excellent point, I couldn't agree anymore... The Puntland Uluma example and how they resolved the money making machine problems was great demonstration of how the Uluma and religious Sheiks have an important role in our socieity, but make no mistake, waa Culumo nabad katalinayso...

As always I respect and treasure your input my dear LX, however I still see you are making the same rounds and circles… It surely is hard to crack your head on this one, I think its best to leave it here for today and for this particular thread... until the next one… I admire your style of delivery and the fact that you kept this discourse to be as civil as possibly could be, I also like to take your advice on board but from me too, I ask and hope you to be more careful and less trustworthy in anything that’s said by people and groups(with bad record), listen to more trust less… your good intentions and sincerity is all noted in the thread, no doubt about that but I sense whether there was a lack of clear knowledge and proper observations about the on goings in my home country… but for now, for today and for this thread we’ll call a day! Hadal waad haysaa Saaxib, I possibly mis-heard the other night, maxaa layiri ninka waa Journalist in profession

^Well, I know I am no different from any Somali nor have I said that but I wouldn't interrupt for example if my SL peepz decide to have their own opinions on something important to them.... will not put my traces there, aigh

^Yes I agree but the sincerity of some people's criticism could be doubted as being coming from different perspective, you know we are Somali... But I welcome anyones input....

^LOol who's talking about gays and at the same time sleeping with them... Lol Norf, Nagadaa ninyahow

^Lool, tell him yaa Jimmy Norf, LOol, for who Riyaale or Siilaanyo? No thanks to you I prefer to support the Somali leader

Biixi, its the SL Admin and not the elders... Anyway this topic is for Puntlanders to name and shame those involved in this bad actions... Any more names you add to the thread is welcome

^Norf joining the UIC, that's historic... waa hadaan yeelo, anigu Alshabaab ayaan kubiirayaa markaa

Edit: ^You are going in circles sxb Duke this Norf character is funny, he's trying to drag this meeting story forever, or perhaps its an attempt to learn how to speak with men, a practise sort of session for him...Lol, Norf calm down a joke laakiin iska practise garee

There nothing wrong with the SL elders, leave them out of this thread, only politicians please. The sickos and founders of this rendition business are the SL Admin, its where Puntland sickos got the idea from, nothing to do with SL elders, they are innocent and against these kind of actions....

^Again I will say it for the sake of a record making in SOL, I have and will always be against wrong, no matter who does it.... Shall I add, even Yusuf Yey or for that matter any other human being, you can't get any more clearer than that

Norf, If you can't get to that level you gota laoth it miyaa? I understand.... The TFG is making a stand on the international level and calling the shots back home, what have you? Your protest of latest visit is getting silly, all noted, indeed noted very well

^On the capacity of that seat, yes, if he's criminal you can try him later, that's why you have impunity for the heads of states and other officials... you need Politiks lesson 101... You see Somalia is important to me and will respect its leader no matter what you ill-thought accustion brand him...

^Saaxib, its fact piracy, chaos and murder, street suicide bombing and threats against other nations only benefits the oppositions groups... The TFG needs peace, trinquality and the return of law and order... that's what Somali needs and benefits the Somali government.

^I have always been against wrong, no matter who does, as for the Support of the Somali President you cannot question one's love for his country, can you? The man is the President and I didn't elect him, on the weight and the scale of seat he's sitting on, I have to respect him for that fact because unlike you I am Somali and love my nation.... Horn, you are going in circles, list what groups( ) have A.qasmin met, present the pictures like you displayed the one's above, the man was incompetent in the true sense of the wordd couldn't even convince and get onboard some the African states... On the count of the progress of the TFG, Saaxib its everywhere, its fact we are not living the years of the 2004 warlodism, a fact that your Huuraale is insignificant and the rest of the warlords... The TFG is doing its job and equally doing its best to combat the hit and run of the Alshabaab attacks... Have agreed to make peace deals with the opposition.

^You can take it back as you like but I see there is hope for you as you are getting closer to see the light at the end of the tunnel Norf, Yes saxib this can be clasified as success in terms of foreign matters, I agree internal affairs aren't all green, there more hard drilling needs to be done... But on this case, it all good Somalia and the TFG is making progress to the outsie world, that's why you have Foreign policy and relations in any state...

Horn, anytime A.qasim is mentioned waa inaad is cuncuntaa miyaa? The good old days of being Jnr JVA is really memorable miyaa On a serious note, Aside from summits at the UN or Arab league A.qasim never met head of states, not the likes of dominant Gulf states, not the dominant cultures in Europe neither the China's super power... When A.qasim was President the TNG was a joke Sxb, ask Muse Suudi

^Gaagaab is number 1, waa tuuga ugu wayn, this guy needs to be named and shamed... Xiin thanks for the topic.... In the real sense of the word, the most corrupt of all is this fool and has to be taken out of the Public sight... I rate this fool to be number one with a five *

^Unlike your UIC masterminder and hero A. qasim this President has never been a man of material, his ambition have always been political goal with the aim to revive the lost republic ... Your confusion is beyond limit when you accuse Mr Yusuf as a man of money, handouts kulahaa, come back bal Norf I have always been up for fruitful debate, your silly one liner argument have undermined your contribution to the site... As for Yey meeting Sarko, you know when bad news hits home its hard to take it, that's how you are acting, the seccessionits are getting alarmed by the political strength of this government... Surely you can't deny that when one of the most important head of states in Europe, France's Sarko hosts Yey officially to discuss with him about many issues... that in itself is a great political score, diplomacy in actions... When a Somali head of state for the first time in 18 years gets to meet and discuss with the lkies of King of Saudia, recieves such welcome at the Palais de l'Elysee and a call from Hu Jintao, it shows Somalia is no longer considered a failed state but recovering and with a functioning government, the TFG... surely SL is the one to lose in Somalia's return to world stage, that's why your cry is far louder than anyone in this thread... If you wanna talk about the situation back home in an attempt to hijack this thread, fine, the TFG is making progress on the ground, Alshabaab are losing men and material, the UIC and the few confused in Asmara are reluclantly agreeing to sit with the TFG and in the end are forced to take whatever is tossed to them... the TFG is going from strenght to strength... Again, a remarkable political gain...