^Innocent? A man who is calling for the death of the UN peace keeping forces coming on a peaceful intiative and which would help Somalis end thier prolonged civil war.

^You have inferiority complex, I have not... Gediid, do you agree that Riyaale is Zenawi's puppet?

^Thats is another hot air, which again was intended for the British Audience... We knew the presence of the Ethiopia and it's relation with the TFG, the man he shoutes to name Gabre is house hold name, any Somali man knows him as the man in charge of the Ethiopian troops in Mogadishu... So again it was another naive attempt to discredit the TFG but the diaspora Somalis know better than Aidan... When he says ' I am going to the place where Somalia is ruled from', I liked his ridiculous exaggeration... Somalia kulahaa, perhaps he should know Somali is a lot bigger than what he saw in Mogadishu, foregetting about the Autonomours region of Punt and SL, there are other regions that have no one single Ethiopian soldier, like your home region Dhubad of Gedo and other places... Again given on wheren he was coming from, he would say that, the documentary was only focusing on the TFG, not only that but to focus on it's bad side contrary to the good side, with that in mind if all he could toss is only that, I think it will reinforce the status of the TFG... All big words and hot air, no concrete presented, like I said before the program was nothing like that of my expections.

Casmara: Xubnaha Isbaheysiga Mucaaradka Dawlada qeybta ku sugan Casmara oo wada qorshe ay ku badalayaan hogaanka Isbaheysigap 27. maj 2008 Casmara (AllPuntland) - Waxaa wali cirka isku sii shareeraya khilaafaadka ka dhex taagan Madaxda isbaheysiga Dib u Xoreynta Casmara lagu unkay, waxaana isa soo taraya hadalada kulul ee ay is dhaafsanayaan dhinacyadaas. Qaar ka mid ah Xubnaha Isbaheysigaas ee jooga Casmara ayaa wada tallaabooyin ka dhan ah Shiikh Shariif Shiikh Axmed oo eedeeyay Xukuumada Eritrea. Xubnahan ayaa leh wada tashiyo gooni gooni ah oo ay ka leeyihiin Shiikh Shariif oo iska bedelay mowqifkiisa, isla markaana eedeeyay Dawlada Eritrea. Shiikh Xasan Daahi Aweys oo ah Madaxda isbaheysiga ayaa isagoo ku sugan Casmara waxaa uu wax laga xumaado ku tilmaamay hadalka Shariifka, kaasi oo uu ku tilmaamay mid aysan u cuntami karin. Ilo ku dhow dhow Xubnaha ku sugan Casmara ayaa sheegaya in uu socdo wada tashiyo laga leeyahay sidii is bedel lagu sameyn lahaa Hogaanka Isbaheysiga oo uu madaxda. Shiikh Shariif oo ku sugan Jabuuti ayaa Saxaafada u sheegay in aysan bedeli karin Xubnaha ku sugan Casmara oo uu ku sheegay in ay yihiin 14 xubnood. Waxaa suura gal noqon karta in Mucaaradka Dawlada uu ku yimaado kala jabkii ugu xooganaa, waxaana dhici karta in ay u kala jabaan Labo garab oo kala ah Garabka Jabuuti iyo Casmara. Cabdicasiis Maxamed AllPuntland

^I agree we can all be against any Admins that we deem to be making wrong decisions, but for the sake of the poor people and future generations we should commend and support any development on the land. Its only exploration and no OIL is coming out immediately.

What happened to the Political heavy weights of the forum.... Waad isceebayseene waa idin sidee, maxaad islaamaha wax uga sheegteen. This was purely an entertainment event, it has nothing to do with politics whether is the Presidents wife or anyone of the members Hooyo doesn't make it to the status to be posted on this section. Secondly in any entertainment event, people have the right to choose their Music flavour, I have seen many Somali Aroosis playing American Music, infact I watched one aroos which people danced Spanish Salsa dance with Brazilian singers in attendance... Perhaps some of you mind the Ethiopia and endorse the Jamaican or other African Ndombolooo Ndombala Music Entertainment, leave it for being pure Entertainment.... laakiin rag baa dhulka isku jiiday oo habraha utiriyay waan ujeedaa

I agree with NG, the documentary wasn't any more informative than most of us had expected, much less...

I was completely disheartened and extremely saddened by the sheer hopelessness and destruction demonstrated in the program, the innocent mothers and children that were unkindly brutalized by the on going war between the arrogant unruly dowladiid and the government troops, especially those dwell in the refugee camps in the outskirts of the city of Mogadishu. Ilaahow ugargaar. Now coming back to the aim of the dispatches program which was, as advertised a week before, to investigate, shame some individuals and expose the human right abuses of the TFG. I watched the program in its entirety and to be honest it was much lower than my expectation, when the program finished I murmured to myself, is that it, was that all he could do while claiming to have stayed there for two weeks???? Mr Aidan dedicated his time and employed his utmost ability to prove the criminality of the four men in the documentary but miserably failed, that’s my opinion of his attempt and I will tell you why. If one pays less attention to the big words tossed by the presenter that was aimed for the British audience to create some sort of great build up and excitement such as repeating ‘I am going to track them down’ which was meant for the four men when he was leaving UK and while in Mogadishu… and the other big words of hot air. He only interviewed two supposedly victims of the Somali police and secret services, they claimed to have been arrested without charge, one of them was complaining about the number of people put in a small cell, not great deal of torture mentioned not much of death also, lets remember the arrest without charge is still an alleged crime against the two, one which reported Aidan exaggerated his role and status as the Head of the police which he was not as Qaybiid is the Head of the Police, and the other. For the laugh of me, he also interviewed the usual big suspect, a man who had been publicly against the TFG since its formation 2004, the famous clan spokesman Axmed Diiriye, as if the Somali Diaspora wouldn’t know his pre-view stance on the TFG before any interview had to take place, very predictable man paraded on our screens and to use his aired words as evidence of the TFG’s human right violations, that was comedy and purely aimed for the British as any Somali diaspora would know the secret behind it. I am not in no way, form or shape trying to defend these alleged criminal personalities, neither interested nor do I intend to exercise my right to do that. In fact I find in me the urge to align with and defend the hopeless and those innocent young children in the Madina hospital and dieing in this current Somali chaos than the giant well off members of the TFG. However, based on the channel 4 dispatches program I saw nothing carries weight that’s displayed, the victims were random men on the street, none of the high cases that shook the Somali media in the past year or so presented. If you ask any man in Mogadishu to tell a story of when he had been a victim of the TFG would, you will find thousands who will for the heck of the Camera bearing in mind the reporter Aidan was only focusing of the crimes committed by the TFG personalities stated and would not try filter the any claim put forth as it would serve his timing agenda, yet he failed because it’s all second or third degree alleged crimes. Lets for the sake of having a better argument say these crimes were proven and those personalities are found guilty of the mentioned crimes, I think the reporter is again being naïve here for he assumes everything to be gloomy, rosy and perfect much like the developed human right law abiding Britain. He forgets the place is Africa, the worst of all Somalia, which had been in ruins and civil war for 18 years, while most of the developed African countries like Egypt, Libya, and Nigeria etc. practice such of the said alleged crimes in much higher rate than Somalia. Aidan made himself look like a fool by proudly shouting with his question posed to Darwiish ‘You detain people for 46 days, a 100 days without charge’ forgetting that on his way to the interview two of the his bodyguards died of a roadside bomb, how immensely disturbing and silly the man was, he’s imagined life in Mogadishu is like London Borough of Westminster… Guards died as a result of him going to that interview, he secured the interview pose real and hard good questions, like ‘How many of the deaths in Mogadishu is he responsible of’… All in all, the program didn’t add anything to my ingredients, it was launched to defame and slander the TFG, and in fact it did the opposite revealing less obviously understandable crimes given the situation in Somalia. We all know the TFG had never been perfect institution, even if all the crimes mentioned were true, I hardly believe it would make it any more less perfect… detention, torture and mistreatment happens anywhere, superpower China does it…. All the demo was Full of Bullokks and utter failure I hoped Aidan will bring more touching and tangible documentary but to may avail, absolute useless.

^You are welcome

Inaa lilaah, it is really shocking...

2 killed, homes destroyed in strong China aftershock By Boris Cambreleng Agence France-Presse First Posted 03:02:00 05/26/2008 CHENGDU, China -- A strong aftershock jolted southwestern China on Sunday, killing at least two people, destroying 70,000 homes and rattling millions still reeling from the massive earthquake two weeks ago. The aftershock -- the strongest to hit Sichuan province since the devastating May 12 quake -- came as the death toll from the initial tremor topped 62,500, and as more foreign aid poured into the disaster zone. Relief workers raced to reach those in need as the already tough conditions for millions of survivors living in makeshift camps worsened, with rain falling throughout the day and forecasters predicting heavy downpours overnight. Sunday's aftershock measured 6.4 on the Richter scale, an official with the Sichuan Earthquake Bureau told AFP -- making it the strongest since the 8.0 quake that destroyed large swathes of Sichuan two weeks ago. The US Geological Survey put the magnitude of Sunday's aftershock at 5.8. Two people was killed and more than 480 injured, 41 of them seriously, in the aftershock, with the city of Guangyuan, north of the provincial capital Chengdu, particularly hard hit, state-run Xinhua news agency reported. An earthquake relief official in the city of Guangyuan, Wang Fei, was quoted by Xinhua as saying about 71,300 homes had collapsed there, and more than 200,000 others were in danger of collapsing. The quake -- which struck mid-afternoon and was centered about 250 kilometers (155 miles) northeast of Chengdu -- sent people fleeing from buildings, AFP correspondents witnessed. Read more on the story

Isseh, the first phase of the expoloration will take place at Ufeyn and Kobdhaxaad valley

Isseh, I think Shariifka is slowly letting the truth out, nothing is wrong with that... ^^ Emperor I felt that too. We must not get stuck on one issue. I am a late comer to this forum. And one thing I saw distrubed me. There is no question people in this forum are exceptionally gifted and intelligent. But, I saw a trend of bullying a particluar way of thinking. And the victims responded by disengaging from objective discussions on that controversial issue. Or maybe they have exhausted all that needs to be said long time ago and resigned to the fact they can't go any further. But I think that sullies the othewise marvellous potential of this forum to educate, entertain and hopefully nurture positive and civilized thinking on matters that are dear to all of us. Abtigis, I positively agree with you on that, I treasure your contribution and respect you input, you shouldn't be misguided by the muscle strain, metatarsal strength test tossed amongst one another in SOL, I know you are an asset someone who can, should we unite the forces, contribute to the cause in a highly effective manner....

^Its the sort of rumour you like to hear, I am just being generous to you in making you happy

Sheekh Shariif oo eedeeyay Eritrea -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Muqdisho, Somaliya (Calanka.com) 25-May-08 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gudoomiyaha Ururuka Isbaheysiga Dib u xoreynta Sheekh Sahariif sheekh Axmed ayaa markii ugu horeysay ku eedeeyay dowladda Eritrea in ey kala jabineyso isbaheysiga uu madaxda ka yahay. Sheekh Sariif oo dhanka kale uga mahadceliyay dowladda Eritrea marxaladihii kala duwanaa ee ey la soo martay isbaheysiga dib u xoreynta ayaa ka codsaday dowladaasi in ey dib uga fiirsadaan habdhaqanka mudooyinkan danbe ey lasoo baxday dowladda Eritrea oo lagu kala dhantaalayo isbaheysiga. Sheekha ayaa sheegay in isbaheysiga oo bur-bura eysan dowladda Eritrea dan ugu jirin islamarkaana iyaga ka Somali ahaana eysan sidoo kale dan ugu jirin. "Shacabka Soomaaliyed waxaa ka raali gelinayaa dhawaaqa xun ee dhagahooda ku dhacaayey beryahan ee ka imaanaayey Isbaheysiga, waaa hadalo aan munaasib aheyn, oo aan lagu farxi karin, waxaana balan qaadeeynaa oo ku dadaaleeynaa inaan xalino wixii khilaaf ah ee jiro", ayuu yiri sheekha mar uu ka hadlayay hadlo kasoo yeeray qaar ka mid ah isbaheysigiisa. Si kastaba ha ahaateen shir jaraa`idka uu saakay barqadii qabtay Sheekh Shariif ayaa kusoo beegmaya xilli uu isbaheysigaasi u muuqdo in uu labo u kala jabay oo ey mudooyinkan danbe dhanka warbaahinta isu marinayeen hadalo kul-kul. Gudoomiyaha isbaheysiga iyo ku xigeenkiisa ayaa iminka ku sugan Jabuuti, halkaasna uga socdaa kulamo ey la leeyihiin beesha caalamka, waxa eyna sheegeen in qaab wadahadal ey sidoo kale uga saarayaan ciidamada Itobia dalka Somaliya islamarkaana ey eegayaan danaha umadda Somaliyeed ee dhibaatada ku jira. Shirkan ka furmay Jabuuti ayaa waxaa qaadacay dowladda Eritrea iyo qaar ka tirsan isbaheysiga dib u xoreysnta uuna horkacayo Sheekh Xasan Daahir Uweys. Calanka.com Isha wararka xaqiiqda.

^Akhtii topican kuma jirinee, and I have my keyboard and can type lasoco dee ninyahow, I wasn't only replying to people but posting topics as well... Abtigis, wheter its a change of your previous hardline remarks or not, I must commend and congratulate you for this stance on this issue, it wise of you to be saying that in this case....

Jabuuti: Shiikh Shariif Shiikh Axmed oo Xukuumada Casmara ku eedeeyay in ay wado qorshe ay ku kala qeybineyso Mucaaradka 25. maj 2008 Jabuuti (AllPuntland) - Gudoomiyaha Isbaheysiga Dib u Xoreynta ee lagu unkay Magaalada Casmara Shiikh Shariif Shiikh Axmed ayaa ku eedeeyay Dawlada Casmara in ay wado tallaabo ay ku kala qeybineyso Isbaheysigooda Mucaaradka ah. Shiikh Shariif oo shir jaraa'id ku qabtay Magaalada Jabuuti ayaa sheegay inuu aad uga xun yahay mad madowga soo gala dhex galay Isbaheysigooda. Waxaa uu muujiyay sida uu uga xun yahay hadalada ka soo yeeray Xubnaha Isbaheysiga Dib u Xoreynta, kaasoo ku sheegay inuu muujinayo kala jab soo kala dhex galay Isbahesiga. "Waxaan moodaa in maalmahan ay Eritrea bilowday tallaabooyin ay ku kala qeybineyso Isbaheysiga, anagoo uga mahad celineyna, Qaabilaadii ay inoo sameeyeen"ayuu yiri Shiikh Shariif oo ugu baaqay Xukuumada Isaias Afwerki in ay faraha kala baxdo arrimaha Isbaheysiga. Shiikh Shariif ayaa u jeediyay Xubnaha Isbaheysigiisa in ay ka feejignaadaan Hadalada keeni kara kala fogaansho soo kala dhex gala Isbaheysiga, wuxuuna u jeediyay in ay ilaaliyaan dareenka shacabka soomaaliyed. Kooxaha Mucaaradka Dawlada ayaa horay ugu kala qeybsamay shirka dib u heshiisiinta Jabuuti, waxaana garabka Shiikh Shariif hogaaminayo dib u heshiisiinta u muujiyeen dabacsanaan, hase ahaatee xubnaha kale ee uu ugu horeeyo Shiikh Xasan Daahir Aweys waxay qaadaceen shirka, waxaana ay ku eedeeyeen Ragga Shiikh Shariif hogaamiyo in ay si xaaraantinimo u saxiixeen qodobka muhiim u ah masiirka soomaaliya. Hadalka Shiikh Shariif ayaa ku soo aaday xilli Xukuumada Casmara sheegtay in aanay dalkeeda soo geli karin Shiikh Shariif iyo xubnaha ka qeyb galay shirkii Dib u Heshiisiinta, waxaana moodaa Hadalka Shiikh Shariif inuu meesha ka saarayo saldhigashada Isbaheysiga ee Magaalada Casmara. Cabdicasiis Maxamed AllPuntland

Haha ha now they want to fight with the United Nations peace keeping forces...

^In that scene, I heard unreported rumour that Odaga offered the other Cheek but instead got a kick in the behind loooooooool

^Whether I disgaree with you or not matters less, neither does how you deliver you message matter as long as it is understandable, you message is all fine and getting throught but the problems seems to be that, when you don't go overboard on a particular debate, you like to dwell on one thing or perhaps keep repeat your earlier tunes all over again... It might be a problem for some SOLers but a tactic on your corner, its all good my brother... To summerize we would have better intercourse if we both move on from an issue to the next instead of getting stuck, never worry about the agreement/disagreement perspective... I am not dismissing the likelyhood of reaching an agreement with you at all, its very likely as has been proved in the Somali politiking, we will one day throw parallel rockets from one side, I can only hope to come sooner than later...

^Exactly that kind of story is what they present here, it reminds me of when Riyaale and some of his ministers were stripped of all their clothes when entering Ethiopa