Sky, hear..heard you bro, The government has huge task to do. Indeed Gheedi is up against all odds but will he succeed, Hope so but time will tell. This men are only some 30's to count, uncounted ones are scattered everywhere in South, Well Atto rules Kofurted Galkacyo as of Wagaacusub's sources are concerned, Pathetic Indeed. Suldaanka, lol I one go for the dimplomacy, righlty so, but as the nigth goes by things will get even funnier for the likes of Waagacusb, thus will it pressure SL to hardly tie up "diplomacy"

Waagacusub did wonderful job by reaching out this consensus.. lol Cabdi Qasim Salaad Xasan waa Madaxweynahii hore wuxuu aad uga soo horjeedaa qorshaha Ciidamo shisheeye lagu keenayo dalka Maxamed Saciid Xersi Morgan oo ah Mujaahid dagaal yahan ah.. Mujahid as ever lol I wonder what they have in common??? What an amazing story they can come up with... Read the rest of the humor By the way Somaliland isn't there, weak they are, I bet they aren't as big and powerful as this men based on Waagacusub's view.

WaaaaaW Sxb waa la iga tagay. I need not to waste more time in the west, better run back home and get my GOOF before it's too late. Breath taking pictures. Thanks Sky

Peaceful protest, I see nothing wrong with it. Perhaps could be the best way to demonstrate and present your feeling to the world, convey rather a stong message against any case whatever that may be....

OG - am I being one? I have already said good for her, haven't I? OOh sowie, I must have been wrong, backward and somewhat primitive. I never realised that I was In the West..Western values.. Great job she is doing. Happy now!

I don't know about the other nomads, but I have become more then tired of the one-sidedness of the politics sections these past months. Yep same here, what happened to our SLs? I kno you are not in shock..or are you? Rahima: many support certain individuals because warlord X hails from Clan Y (which suprisingly they so happen to be born of) , But do you include yourself and I there sis, Southerners are we all..Oooops sowie North of the North I from was I told? No idea However, If im not wrong our SL peepz do take part of the discussions here, be it about FT's, the Somali government or wider issues concerning the South, and Why not everyone has the right to forward his/her's own take on this Forum. Salaamz

Acuudi bilaahi??????? Im not suprised at her but completely shocked with the replies. Have we(If you have always been like this sowie) changed or am I in the wrong corner. Kuwa ku ag sawiranbaa iigu daran :rolleyes: Wiilashi footballerska ahaa ayaaba juq kujiree xagee Inantu joogtaa.. However, is always good in la ilbaxo waxkastana laga wardoono.. Good for her.

Singub's words remember, rage rage we saw by SL.. Double Standards

Lama garanayo sababta ay dowladda Yemen ay u goosatay inay ciidamo u soo dirto Soomaaliya . Dayniile Desperado

Good news, let them do it.

Sheikh Sxb, is there anything serious going on is just jokes we hear day in day out. The criminals should watch their back because their dooms day is coming nearer and nearer. Warcusub baad haysaabee nagu taabo hee, Nafaqada nasii hee

Good analysis Baashi, but most people lost the target as ever. What's all with the Snr/Jnr JVA argument, out of the picture, and irrelevant to me. And what about the 2 camps, nonesense I suggest. Only if you know the reality el President is not intrested in both of them as far as his actions are concerned, be either of the group like it or not the rule of law will have to be enforced, and It is what he's planning for. I do not understand the rush, can't we just wait and see what the dude is gona come up with in few months time, give it a time. Sure people will see it differently, In now way that I suggest he is not in either of the camps, but as you know the President have always had good record of ally making no need to mention this..SRRC, Sodarre and his own version of Somali Shir in Bosaso are good examples, while others learn it the hard ways(Ally/Support each other only and only when they are threatened). The old man has his time over of allying with other Somali groups, It is time to show his statemaness. It is time to make an ally with other Big/top men as Somalia's top man, he is not fool sxb - Zanawi,Kibaki were on the line long before, We saw the passion of Musaveni and Guelleh - Yey proved Mubarak(Remember what they said before, Ooh visadi aya loo diiday) can welcome me outstandingly, Oh no I shouldn't metion Gadafi lol coz still is on let's just wait the outcome, I think he told him to stay there forever to replace him later lol..that's all I can say for now but overall I liked the President word, quite humorous "Weerarki loo gaystay Gadafi haqdarro ayuu ahaa".Yey , What about Ali Abdalla Saleh of Yemen and Was Sudan in this group? Alright What are we gonna call them group..CRRS?..yeh they should be...Ofcource the man is no fool having only a cup of tea with them and asking money like the old Arta loser, don't fool yourself, You can guess what he's up to, big planns which most of them have approved as of the hearsay - lol.. Sxbayal, el President is careless about them thugz and small man around them, remember the parliament fight, All the colonel said was "Goleyaasha waa inay gacmaha is qabsadaan" giving no credit to both of them boxers - Do you think he would have said that if he really lost anything however less it is and felt threatened, I don't think so judgin from his character. Ghedi proved to be consistant strong man with the president at all time, pledged to take actions against Mog lords. The only problem is the Sharifka(Qanyare's man, Atto and Yalaxow- Which dropped dramatically Sharifk's reputation having being in one boat with these worlords with the terrible record) but not the parliament, it's a minner issue but nevertheless a problem, and if Sharifka doesn't change Yey will have to solve this minner issue..but with the other priorities first. After all its win win situation to them, they are the Xukumada and the other is Sharcidejinta marka iyagaa iska Soojeedinta iyo hirgalintaba - not a problem, waxa uu Madaxwaynahay ama Ra'iisal wasaaraha dhihin Masoconaayaan. Anywayz, Been ha isku sheegina the Predisent is relaxed as if everything was goind according to the plan and does not rely on any group, no he is no fool to think Mahamed Dheere will defend him, Absultely naive person will think this way. We have heard/seen nothing from him since he was elected, but proved he can and will go to Somalia, Went to the South with no technical/Army/Gun or even one staff of his..OH lets just wait then and see when he goes with the one that he controls whether that's FTs or Somalia troops of his, No idea. My prediction: There is gonna be massive force but with no major battles in the South, Mog lords will just hand over the small arms they possess when they see the capacity/reality on the ground, few fights might/not happen am not sure, it will no time, enough time is wasted by the old man. After all the entire operations time will take no longer than six months to the most in a year Somalia will be peaceful, It is the plan of the president as he clearly said it many times. I hope you will prove me wrong, but that's all I have gota say! All the above arguments and groupings you mention are not making any sense as of my opinion. Baashi quite humorous post, thanx but am afraid to say the shadown of a man will not be a man.

Ari heedhe sweeter_than_your_tea wacade waa sweets caadi ah! Warde belo baayo ha ubixin...

Wasiirada dowladad federaalka ee hadda ku sugan Baydhabo ayaa sheegay in ay xoog uga saarayaan Yuusf Indhacade magaalada Baydhabo haddii uusan si degdeg ah uga bixin magaalada Yuusuf indha Cade iyo ciidamadiisa aya la sheegayaa in ay isaga baxeen Baydhabo. Xaabsade ayaa dhiniciisa ka sheegay in uu diyaar u yahay nabad Amazing how things are changing so fast perhaps in seconds

A.Yusuf mala soo dhaafay, oo Puntland malaga soo talaabsaday, Caawa Garowe miyay cayda iyo xumaatada maraysaa! Dhib malahan iska caaya intaad doontaa idinku un iska ciil baxa! Duke,Sky, Wiil and the rest Sxbyal naqaska haku xirina mar mar baa dadka lafasaxaa marka daaya haneefsadeene!

EINSTEIN: Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road move beneath the chicken? looooooooool Why don't you guyz do a Somali version of this question ofcourse based on Somali famous persons It will be fun... Talanted dudes try it ..

Rahima I must give it to you for you have the courage to reason, impressed i must say .... Back to my question towards your "belief". Before I say anything, I care to remind us that we are in the Politics section. In this part of the world communities, countries and tribes do have rulers/leaders that represent them. It's only commonsense that sometimes these rules have no real back up from the people but not always this is the case, certainly not the case you posted(Based on My conscience). Forexample Im a SL/PL, we know many people live in that corner of the world, we knwo that they are represented by Riyale and others like Mr Waraabe and in Puntland Adde Muse or you may say A.yusuf(if this may help your case being a warlord as of your "belief") as their leaders. It's true that the avarage people on the streets of this areas are not in support of their leaders decision in one hundred parecent, nor do they agree in anything and to say there are some that even oppose their rule at all, but ultimately this people will come under the banner and become followers, considered together in what their leaders decide. A Somalilander can not dare say he/they never fough Puntland and claim it was Riyaale's decision, no can a Puntlander say that, even thou they might be against the fight in personal opinion. Same goes for the western world, Neither English nor American persons can claim that they never attacked or invaded iraq but it was single decision took by Bush and Blair.... No Walaalo in Politics it doens'nt work like this, Infact the average people in UK were opposed to the Iraq war but still are all together in this...British people, Government, Media etc are all considered to be as invaders of another country just a decision of one Man, and It's Tony Blair the only viw person that represents this country politically and conveys it's messages to world irrelevant of the avarage poeple on the street. The average people of any community do not count but what leaders of that community say do count, Politics it is... Back to your reply, good points raised but to my avail, it was based on Holliday trip experience and the opinions or desire of the normal people on the street(Which by the way im not sure whether what you said was correct or not, but let me say so they are). Another big mistake, if the people there are Shariifyaal but with bad representation then what a contradiction this would be... Likewise, these warlords had almost next to no influence on the lives of the average person and hence did not contribute to the war effort but still they have them as leaders, or are you in denial to this. As I said counts not what the people on the street in Bosaso think but what the Mayor of the city says. It does not matter to Somaliland what the average Puntlanders think of the disputed land, but what decisions will General Cadde take to solve the problem, either by war or negotiations. You are asking the wrong person really. I don’t know anything about it. I don't know whether you are dismissing my earlier comment here, or are you now admitting that you have no idea of what happening not to forget you had the good news for us from our capital. All I know is that they are scum and my stance is that if they do form a regional administration then I support it for that is better than nothing. Scum we know, do form? not sure about it, Surely at that point in no doubt that I will share the support and rejoice with you. But I guess is never too late to learn in this case form an administration, but how long will you wait?? Oh sorry to ask you personally, how long will the avarage poeple in Mogadishu based on your observation are they willing to wait for this administration to be formed??? As long as it takes I suppose No im not trying to be harsh but honest, I know it was your own opion but will you just try to pass it to me... Caamir, Sxb what are you on about... The place's got no real system, havoc everywhere and lost every hope to restore order, and you want Commisions... bal ukaadi horta meesha Systemkeeda iyo Administration haloo dhisee...Markaas wixi kale.. Just give a time when commonsense gets back then anything is possible..

Coalition of Farax Stalking Services I think it is good form one now.. nevertheless we might need some Xalimoz on our side for a real success, don't worry this Xalimoz may have different taste... Seriously, is this guy Somali??? coz im not aware of any place you mentioned his origin. If he is Somali then it is normal to have/know your Address name and phone and be aware of everything you do, no big deal in this is just for us we know each other and deeply interconnected.. Infact if some of you right now just give me your real names I might know a lot of you, tell you about your family even tracing back as to where you born and how your dad got married to your mammy..Simple as that But if he is of other nationalities then, is strange to know everything about you... do something about it..

Rahima The difference between you and I is that I believe that the average person in Mogadishu is so done with tribe that they will ultimately go with whoever is after their best interests Are you sure, and what about other Somali regions? How did you measure this belief of yours? Based on what experiment have you done that ultimately gave you this result? So done with tribe??? What do u mean please, I heard that Hawiyistan government is in form there with ten worlords controlling one City. Also, im a bit lost in the world of Mogadishowers interest.. Help me Just an honest view

Ooh sowie lady? Just never saw Duke's name on your response, so I considered as a normal reply to the topic. Aright I got your point, sorry again never mind.

Rahima I don’t see how having cordial relations with ones neighbours is linked to accepting them as part of the FTs deployment. Sis, I didn't see in the good article above anything that implies your comment. Infact the writer was in agreement with you, and clearly said I'm with the NO Vote of ethiop. But the message was more than only troops, infact never mentioned many times in his article. While I like your inputs and respect your Ideas, I happen to say that your post above should have well fitted the other topics that were discussed about FT's. As I think the topic at hand was about Yey, an allegedly "lover" of ethiopia and the Mogadishu Warlords a supposedly "haters" of ethiopia??? What he thought of them backing his argument with some recent and few years back history. What have we gotta say on that...

"Power never takes a back step - only in the face of more power". Malcolm (1965) Good one, it is only a matter of time since we see a real change, After all they seem to have already lost the ball, No one dare say I fight the government. They know what is coming and thats why Fear is spread all around. Ghedi was clever enough not to give them any excuse as they had no good share in his government and I believe thats why his government consists of many warlords, but now waa in shaqo laga qabtaa and Our Prof.'s patience has run out and his case closed. I eagerly await for the events

• A team of Somali and non-Somali legal experts must be identified to follow up and contact the Famiglia Cristiana and the Italian Greenpeace to build on what these groups have so far done. Make all those involved accountable for recent and past dumps and have them reveal all that they know. • The Transitional Federal Government of Cabdullahi Yusuf and Prime Minister CAli Maxammed Geedi, if it ever survives, shall establish special czar to work on this matter with the UN and EU for a comprehensive clean up program. • The Somali nationals whose relatives have fallen victim of this deliberate poisoning in the hands of multinational companies must seek and retain legal representation here in the west with the decided goal to seek compensation for their impacted relatives. Good points . And, boom, in the center of this secret episode is our own North Mogadishu warlord, Ali Mahdi Mohamed, and his government, who accepted $80 million in exchange of 10 million tones of toxic materials dumped in Somalia's shores. And more secret dumping and the murder of journalists, as reported by VOA, March 16, 2005, is done under the current Mogadishu warlords who are yet to be scrutinized. Sad sad sad, it's painful ....

Good article, Thanks Caamir

What was this all about??? mmmh Bingo, Was this Mission Organised?