^^SM halkaa ha gaarsiin gibinta, Masayr iyo Wiil reer Punt ah inuu wax qasay waa iska suurtagal - meelaha la aad xaga kale kadaa

^^LOL you keep insisting it is Puntlanders, how many time do they have to prove you that it isn't, Wixi Xunba Xaawa leh ayaan maqli jiray, Everything bad is from Puntland in your case.. Dhagaha fur the pics are from the resident clan of Mogadishu, again it is from the Musa Sudi Yalaxow clan's meeting in Xamar yesterday and not from Puntland. Perhaps the clan of Yalaxow are Puntlanders to you, in that case you win..

^ Waangacusub must stire up things a little bit, we are still waiting for the Capture of Villa Somalia, Ciidama Mujaahidiinda oo Salaada kutukaday ! Aaga gaalkacyo is vacated and they can easily penetrate now xoox, sxb Waagacusub is based in Muqdisho how could they get more up to date info in this front than Puntland and Somaliland websites... Very Funny

SNM soo nimakii Somali dhib lo oyeeto kagaystay maaha, Dhagawayne maanu ahayn ninkii Gobolada Waqooyi Bari loo adeegsade inuu gumaado. War Nimankan Somaliland hadhowbay kuula imanayaan waa nala laayay.. War SS-tan Somali baa'bisay maad kahartaan.

^Would he not utter again nonesensically the missions of this newly joined group

^Very strong come back, great performance I must say well done sxb LOL My failure to return the respect towards them, and have them in mind when I reply sometimes, will not deter them from maintaining their excellent conduct. After all, men like them do not base their opinions on who is reading, who will rile against them, or who will praise them for their input. They are muslims first, Somalis second by their conduct, their clan comes a third and they never disowned it. In fact, they will defend their clan if transgressed upon by others as they do defend other somali clans. Clap clap Very articulate But don't you think is too late to praise them now. This was uncalled for and is another poor shot, damage reiterated but I believe you are a sincere man.

^Brother BoB thanks for this great reminder, honestly I can't remember the last I visited a Muslim brother, relative or a friend, Im just losing myself within the core and bones of this western soceity, I must say it isn't helping at all, especially for these sakes. Ilaahay hafududeeyo Amuuraha

^^Rationality is a very sensitive route that I mostly avoid, after all we aren't in a court and he isn't a criminal for his remarks. As for the mad comment, to claim something and restract from it later is a bit of madness to me, and for your info "mad" isn't that bad of a description to me. Just only suites this light case.

^^Sxb are you just picking on me? Brother I am Muslim, I respect the brother and his great findings, however, he's denied the story when it was made public. Now I as a person can't say I can do something and later refute it when it is in the public domain, that's quite ingenius. We as Muslim are supposed to judge people by the behaviour and character decency and not by their name or belief. Having said that, Im not in any way or form trying to ridicule the bother.

^^Did you read the whole story If I am not wrong, when the story was publicised the President denied such claims. What does this suppose to mean then if not a sign of madness.

^^Indeed the man has gone mad!

Orginally posted by Xoogsade: We note who has demonstrated somalinimo in times of need and Somalilanders have proven to be Somalis in every sense of the word. What matters is what we, those of us who hail from outside Puntland , think of thier gesture and show of kinship. I, as Aydiid's clansman, proud of my heritage, thank Notherners for their show of concern and brotherhood. LOL Xoogsade Sxb don't you think this is unfair to your long standing friends from the days of the UICs rise to their fall and to this ramble in the rubble of Mogadishu, Im talking about Xiin and Paragon's Planders is left out, they must be Sheegato , but in the end is all clear the whole show is reduced into clanism. Very sad Indeed, you as Aydiids clansman allied with Northerner , well we all know how clans allied themselves within the Somali conflict in the 90's... It's not a suprise hardly unsual

LOOOOOOOOOOL @AUB Sxb naga ayaar dee saan uqoslaayay feerihi baad naxanuujisay, that was quite funny I hope the girls won't take it serious thou, Sxb honestly you may be the reason why I log on to this forum... Meelkasta waad waashaa from Politics section to this women section LOL... I don't think you can ever be serious, you are right you shouldn't, after all, is only just a forum. JB sxb ninkan mawaalna dee, he's just having fun, ma qof waalanbaa sidaa wax uqori kara kulatahay, you are right thou qof fiyowna xataa sidaa wax uma qori karo.. waa cajaa'ibo, will let him decide? Alle dee maxaa tahay - cirka iyo dhulka dhexdooda miyaa?

^Right on the point there yaa Bambo, they should chuck his head off and throw him out, but will they do it? Is a matter of time and to be seen, otherwise this will strongly prove that UIC is nothing but Qabiil movement recruiting the worst warlords, yesterday was Indhacade today Aideed Jnr is in the making. Perhaps silly characters like Alle-Ubaahne will come and say Sheikh Hussein Aideed said this or that... ninku sheeg isu badali okaa

LOL@AUB War ninkan waa majaajiliiste runtii LOL

^^So Baashi what kind of Engineering did you do? Seems halliburton wants to take another yet interesting turn, good developments. IM in this league of people heading for Dubia, but my lack of info of the country and current on going projects puts me a weak position, these sorts of threads mean something, keep updating us Sxbyaal

^Injections? How effective my dear, a possible elimination ?

Baashi I can see you are taking points from either side of the spectrum, the ICU supporters and TFG supporters, Xiin presents quite good conditions there the odds is against you, to think and create a point of convergence.. I will add these for the TFG side in your list.. Conditions for the TFG to share power, AFter ceasefire these conditions must be met: 1. All Violence to be renounced and stopped immediately materialise 2. Moqdishu residents should disarm or otherwise clan elders must promise and meet that not a single shot will be fired at the government and their allies - Untill National disarmement takes place in other areas. 3. Clan elders/representation rather than religious convictions (TFG's constitution was based on qabiil notable the 4.5 staff) thus reshambling things is big NO for the TFG cause it will mean a whole new system and new elections - unreasonable as things stand. 4.They Must understand that Mogadishu is no different than Baladwayne or Buurhakaba, drop that stubburn attitude and big headedness, as a result lessen their ambitious demands. On the negotiating table: Same as Xiin but I doubt the UIC will have a role as a group but it is possible to allow Sheikh Aways or Shariifka as a clan representor.

Captain very good I understand you agreed most of what I said if not all. Halkaa hadaanu kasii daadihino, you said you advocate for peace, you have a marale high ground and are supporting a legitimate government of Somalia. The group facing you is a terrorist who's main goal is to cause death and kill more innocent civilians, hence given these don't you think this group has acheived its main goals by killing more poeple and causing their main goal (death) either with the help of your effort/guns or theirs. Don't you think they have acheived another of their goals which was to drag down the name and reputation of the TFG, don't you think they put them on the stage and clearly be seen by all as reckless body, did fell for a trap orchastered by the terrorist. Don't you think the TFG now have lost a wide spread support and constituency in the world, Somalia and especially in Mogadishu and poeple living in those hard hit areas... What is better, to fall for every trap set for you or think and think again and to forsee the events. If a goal of someone is death as you said it was theirs, then you are the tool used to do that for sake of theirs.. do u think?

^^Waa halkaa meeshay Sararta ka quruntay LOL Norf sxb, do u think there is distinct line between an opposition and a killer. Someone can oppose a system but if he kills would become a criminal rather than just opposing that system. Whether they were aiming at Ethiopian in the Villa or Odayga or both, and whether they have a right to do that or not is another whole topic need for a descussion. But I think the ones receiving these sort of rockets in the Villa, bear in mind that, who believe themselves to be a rightful government, will take this seriously and respond to kill what they perceive to be criminals who cause death rather than opposition, therefore Norf don't you think they have a right to kill whoever is trying to kill them.

^^Captain I ask you few questions, do you believe your TFG has the moral high ground, do u think it is a legitimate government for Somalia, and do you advacate for peace. I await your answers, OOh and on other hand do you believe this anti-TFG group are a bunch of terrorits? Do you think their only goal is to just cause death and destruction?

Emp, the issue here is whether one should condemn the happenings outright without any strings attached. Without shouting 'he started it first' or 'waxay yihin dowladiid so the heck with them' etc etc. I put a simple question to the guy and he went off into the forest without a flashlight. Sxb who said waa xaq in dowlad diidka la dilo, I believe it is right to condemn the TFG for what they did against the innocent civilians but are you prepared to condemn the ones firing rockets and hoobiye to Villa Somalia. My point is who is who's right? and who is wrong? I know it is wrong to kill dowlad diid and any1 opposing TFG in general, they have a right to do so, but the ones resorting to violence and causing death for this purpose will be killed and is right kill them, would you agree?

War anagaa wax aragnay, oday Baashi cid ha is dhiibtay ma uusan oran ee wax la isugu imaan karo oo feasible ah, Kuwa dowlada taageersan waxa uu kuyiri eega balse intaaba idinku inaad qaadataan ma ahan khasab ee Fikirkiina soo daaya sida Baashi intaad calaacalaysaan... taasu waa hala is dhiibo kuhaysaan. Baashi good read and well thought piece of writing, looking forward to challenge and expose weak points.. laakiin waa inaan usoo fakaraa LOL

Above line was meant for Captain

^^Caqli yeelo sxb dad masaakiin layntooda waa sax ayaad meesha lasoo taagantahay