^Rushing as usual, can't we just wait untill we know how matters go and then accuse someone.... Gacmadheere is a senior member of TFG and can go with it's army to anywhere, he left Kismayo few days ago and I doubt he's going there to wage war against any group. When he left that city and asked about the situation, he said that all that are non TFG malitias will be disarmed from both sides and those belong to the TFG will be put under the control of the government... If this fight is between the government agaist insurgency then you know which side he supports, but if this is between the two known clans as rightly has been the case then you know his clan has nothing to do with both of them, it was the reason he was firstly sent to Kismayo to initiate the peace since he was seen can be fair and a middleground for the both subclans. Thus, I see no reason to blame Gacmadheere... Balse aan iska mala aawalno waxba masugi karnee.. Dagaalkase aad saadaalisay maad noo sii mala awaashid cidda ku adkaanaysa...

^Born as an original reer Kisima, Big time Alanley boy, Majengo ilaa Biifka sxb... Laakiin iskama sheegano Sxb or others will doubt you.. Besides we did all this Songs in iskuulka Bilaal, befor we moved to it we did in Egyptian Machadka next to it...

^These are all a made stories, a desperate form of compaign to generate a support, a clear indication of defeat... Just wait few you will see another new story PS: Arabic version of the flag son.. Caasha calam - Long live the flag (twice) Dhuula Zaman - Throughout the time(Period) Ramzal Culaa - The symbol of highness Rmazal Wadhan - The symbol of the country Quuluu Macii Caashal wadhan .... Something like that...

^Islaanimo is different from Somalino One is faith and the other is Nationality

^Which country are you referring to... Somaliland - Hargeisa 1988 or Somalia - Mogadishu 1991 ? Calal hadii labadalo sidee dad isugu soo dhawayn karaan? that was my point..

Ebyan:Maxamed Daahir and Abdullahi Yusuf are not relatives, but I'm sure you were trying to allude to his qabil. Yes, he is from Abdullahi Yusufs clan, but why is that important? Did you really need to mention that? Dear Ebyan, it all makes sense to go around clan circles when one has no other point to make. It wonders me why the need to use an independent Somali news reporter none member of the TFG living in others corners of the world as an argument against the TFG, simply because of clan line thinking. It's not a new trend it has been like this for a while and sadly employed by many members including SOL seniors, when one wants to score a politcal point and prove something against the TFG has to look for a person from this particular clan, whether he's member of the TFG or not matters less, all that matters is present them as strong and conclusive evidence against the TFG... How irrational...

^Who? And as you can foresee the future, fill us in as to what results the future have in store for us..

^Waa Suurtagal sxb Mudanne Somaliland uhadlay oo Dhibad layirahdo ayaa saas yiri... Perhaps there is some truth to it, I have no idea

^^ Your qoute: I don't mind Somalia changing the flag and the astaanta ,,,,, then we could have better relationship when you remove that stuff Adeer horayna waxaad utiri waa calal waana labadali karaa, hadana waxaad leedahay hadii labadalo isu soo dhawaansho ayay keeni kartaa... so Which one is it? Ma calal unbaa mase ma ahan? Besides Men (Perhaps few men) were and are still responsible for making peace or war, and not a flag, it is just a mere Calal (Maro) as I think...

LOOOOOOOL @ Waa ruuxaantii Abdulahi Yusuf

^Hassan Turki said it, Calanku ma ahan sida Kitaab Quraan, waa calal(Maro) waana labadali karaa hadii loo baahdo.... What can the insurgents do? and the so called nationalists? Sheeka raqiis ayay meesha la imaadeenba, yaab!

^Thats not healthy coming out of you, however, I have not seen any personal attack in Sakhar's post but only one's personal's convictions... One can state my political stance or who I support or supported in the past? can't he/she? I have seen many members bash Baashi for being Neutral many times, and no their posts never went missing or recieved any kind of warning... Very unusual, but I respect Admin's decision..

^Indeed khalaf, any 2 year old boy can note that...

Paragon: Yes, when confronted by two options: to side with Xabashi or to side with reer Dhahar, Somaliland, or reer Gedo, I would gladly choose the Somali side. This is the best and the weakest line so far, you arguments are as weak as the position you always take. Absurdly, now in that above qoute you suggest that Somaliland or perhaps reer Gedo have no connections with Ethiopians, or may be they are part of this Insurgency thats trying to drive Ethiopia out of Somalia ... Sxb it's clear, for you everything appears to be black and white and thus Every Somali tribe is pure and innocent except one, Yey's subclan... WaaaaaaaaW.

^ Let the young man try his best... Not in a cave, propably saw it earlier perhaps liked to see it again aah and show others..

^Sxb I can read and know what you are up to, I have seen you for while change shirts and take sides like Dhahar incident, Mogadishu, Kismayo everywhere... It's all clear, we knew your Abu earlier stance although one must wonder when you became a Somalilander or a part time Gedo group supporter... Lets leave at that.. Coming back to the topic, my question to you is this. Has there ever been any mistreatment against the people of North East modern day Puntland carried out by then Somali government? If there was any, would you like to mention or write a bit about whatever bad happened..

^Baashi notice the tone, at last Paragons's hate/cuqdad for a clan is finally expossed. Now Paragon comes up with Yey's clan were behind the attrocities against Somaliland in 1988, even a Somalilander can't come up with this wild accusation, one must wonder why Paragon?

Allamagan: That shows clearly hte last time you call the city was Morgan heydays Since you suggest that Kismayo has changed since Morgan left, now that said clearly Morgan left and Hiiraale's JVA took over the city in mid 1999, that is just a mare 7 years since Tukri took over last year and now this change of hand, thus please let us know what has changed and estimate the number of houses built by reer Gedo. How has the city (I mean the core and hubb streets of the city - Magalada gudaheeda iyo halbowlaha) expanded? If at all, you suggest that there was an new area or neighbourhoods built and added to the city, let us know where? Those are very Simple questions Allamagan, chip in and feed us all - the stage is yours...

^N/AA, Baashi said what is true and currently happening in Kismayo, Horn sxb if we are not there it doesn't mean that we don't get the news or call relatives there... It's true most of the government instituations were and still is occupied by reer Gedo that is a well known fact no need to deny... One question for you, how come most of the new reer Gedo residents built the Guulwade Barracks land, I mean Xeradi Ciidami Somalia ee Guulwade... this belong to the government, how is this legitimate?

Baashi Awoowe, I expected you to side no group in what's happening in Somalia nowadays, you have shown this for a while and cleanly prestend your arguments convincinly, I must say that I admired your approach to the current Somali crisis and at times influenced me to side with you and support your views, but what I least expected from you was to come across as a Gedo clan advocate or even being apologetic about their lalest attempts and overall stance... That was just pathetic attempt and one that we all leave....

N/AA What stunt? are you talking about the Qarax? I don't know? but now since that has happened what is the point of raising the question, you can't turn the clock back, can you? Or your rhetoric question suggests that, since this stunt will have no use to Gedo clan thus they are not behind it, if that is your point, then who suggested that they were behind this incident? I didn't I guess...

Afgaduud made a mistake. The Gedo clans are force to reckon with in that city. Like it or not, they are here to stay. The governor made a mistake when he prematurely asked them to return government properties! What was he thinking? The hard truth is this clan are new comer to the city and as such they live in the very installations the governor is asking them to return. Even though some of wealthiest sons of city hail from Gedo like Xareed yarow, Huseen Weyne...at least back in the days when I lived in the city, the majority of the new comers don't have properties to live. That's why scores of them live now in Madaxtooyada, Dalxiiska, Labada Shiirkole, Xerada Mariinada, Guryaha Ruushka, Xarumaha Xisbiga, Warshada Hilibka, Warshada Hargaha, TransJuba, Xerada Seerjito, Wakaalada Kaluumeysiga, Wagad, Dugsiga Sare Ganaane, Waamo Primary School, Bangiga Dhexe, and Inji. TFG is asking trouble for what they're asking them to do amounts to clan cleansing in their view. Leave them alone for now. The process of rectifying the problem should be gradual. The majority of this clan much of whom moved in during civil war don't have properties of their own. TFG ought to be using political solution to sort the real estate headache out...too many properties have changed hands during the civil war. Reconciliation is in order...I can't emphasize enough...the alternative is that we'll keep on fighting and fusing. Also an ad hoc dialogue between the warring clans without TFG involvement prior reconciliation grand meeting (independant one where the TFG sits in through its 4.5 reps as part of the Somali conflict) is something that need to be explored. Baashiyow Im :confused: , are you being sarcastic or are you for real? C'mon now! I as well as every sane human being knows that what you wrote might be the root of the problem, but can't be the real solition... Sxb think about the sort of privilages can the clan of Gedo have over other resident clans, If they are allowed to do whaterver they want, live and stay anywhere they wish and instal or chuck off any man as they please( in this case AFgadud and the governer as you blame them to be wrong and thus listen to reer gedo or hit the highway)... Therefore what sort of privalages would let say Morgans clan have? and what about Abdi Mahdi's clan... and think of the rest.... Dee markaa Qolona jidadka halo ogolaado inay isbaaro iska dhigato, qolo Tekeda haqabsato kuwa yar yar oo dhanna Airport-ka hala siiyo, in that way it works out to be fair, but only treat one group better than the other in the name of good intentions would be couterproductive... Simply impossible...

KISMAAYO: Qarax ka dhacay Kismaayo oo sababay geerida ruuxii waday waxyaabaha qarxay oo damacsanaa inuu... Posted to the Web May 03, 09:06 Kismaayo (PP) - Hal qof ayaa ku dhintay bam xalay fiidkii lagu qarxiyay waddada isku xirta Magaalada Kismaayo iyo garoonka diyaaradaha ee Kismaayo, iyadoo wararka ka imaanay Kismaayo ay sheegayaan in ruuxa ku dhintay bamkaas uu ahaa kii waday. Ruuxaan ayaa ayaa la sheegay inuu ahaa mid doonayay inuu halkaas ku aaso bamka, si uu qarax ugu sameeyo gawaarida wadda xubno ka tirsan Dowladda oo lagu wado inay maanta ka soo duulaan Kismaayo kuwaasoo uu horkacayo Wasiirka Arrimaha Gudaha Maxamed Maxamuud Guuleed (Gacmodheere). Wararka kale ee Kismaayo ka imaanaya ayaa waxay sheegayaan in bamkaas sababta halkaas loogu aasayay ay ahayd in lagu waxyeelleeyo gawaari soo galbin lahayd maanta xubnaha maamulka Gobolka oo ku soo jeeday Kismaayo kana imaanayay Deegaanno ka tirsan Duleedka Kismaayo. Arrintu si kastaba ha ahaateen Taliyaha Ciidanka Booliiska Kismaayo Ibraahim Khaliif Shanqool ayaa saxaafadda u sheegay inay u dabo jiraan booliisku sidii ay u ogaan lahaayeen cidii soo abaabushay bamkaan oo la doonayay in waddada lagu aaso. "Waxaan haynaa ruuxii aasi lahaa bamkaas ee waday qaybtiisa hore qaar ka mid ah iyo gacan ka mid ah labadiisa gacmood, intii kale ay tirtirantay, waxaana lagu wadaa baaritaan lagu ogaanayo halka uu bamkaas ka keenay iyo goobta uu u waday" ayuu yiri Shanqool oo sheegay inay saxaafadda u soo gudbin doonaan wararka ku saabsan arirntaas. Maxamed Xuseen Jantiile Wakiilka Puntlandpost Mogadishu

Wada Hadalkii Kismaayo oo Burburey iyo Wafdigii Dowlada fedaralka ee u joogey magaalada kismaayo wada xaajoodka oo bari ka dhoofi-doona halkaasi. Warar aanu ka helayno illo ku dhow gudigii loo xilsaaray soo afjarida khilaafaadkii ka dhacay magaalada Kismaanyo ayaa waxa ay sheegayaan in lagu guul daraystay soo afjarida khilaafaadkii ka taagnaa Kismaanyo. Warku wuxuu intaasi ku darayaa in madaxdii timi Kismaanyo ee uu hogaaminayey wasiirka arrimaha gudaha, Md Maxamed Maxamuud Gacma-dhere barrito diyaarad ka raaci doonaan magaalada Kismaanyo. Taasina waxeey cadeen u tahay haddii ay ka baxaan waftigaasi magaalada Kismaanyo aygoo aanan heshiis la garin jabhada qabsatey magaalada kismaayo, waxaa cad in aysan hureen xaaladu dagaal lagu hoobto in uu ka qarxo magaalada kismaayo. Magaalada Kismaanyo ayaa waxa lagu soo waramayaa in ay isku biirsanayaan xoogagii Muqdisho lagaga adkaaday iyo qabaa’ilada qaarkood oo maalmahan hoos ka guuxayey. Wafdigii u tagey magaalada kismaayo in ay xaliyaan khilaafadka ka jira kismaayo ayaa waxaa jahwareer ka qabsadey isbad-badalka aan caadiga aheen ee mar waliba ku dhaca go’aanka ay la gaaran xubnaha matala jabhada qabsatey magaalada kismaayo. Waxaa kaloo jirta shaqsiyaad caan ah oo isqarinaya oo ku lug leh ,abaabulida dagaalka iyo gadaal ka gujinta dagaalada iyo khilaafadka hada ka taagan magaalada kismaayo, taasina waxaa cadeen u ah wafdiga uu hogaaminayo wasiirka arimaha-gudaha Md Maxamed Maxamuud gacma-dheere oo wixii go’aano ah iyo heshiis ah goorteey is afgarad ku dhameystan labada dhinac ayey waxeeyjabhada kismaayo qabsatey codsadaan in waqti yar oo iswareysi ah si gooni ah loo siiyo ka dibna ay taleefoon ku wacaan meelo aan la garaneynin oo laga hagayo, ka dibna ay la soo noqdaan dardar cusub iyo qodabadii horey looga wada Hadley oo lagu heshiiyey in ay qashinka ku shubaan. Waxaa kaloo jirta in aysan ayaduna meesha ka maqneyn in la isku heysto ka guurida ama ka bixida, goobaha dowlada ay ku shaqeyn laheed oo ay degan yihiin dad badan oo ka mid ah dadka rabshadaha ka wada magalada kismaayo,ay ka mid tahay xarunta gobolka kismaayo, xerooyinkii ciidanka xooga dalka, warshadihii qaranka iyo goobo badan. Dowlada Fedaralka ayaa waxeey muujineysaa dulqaad aad u farabadan maadama jabhada kismaayo qabsatey ayba leysey ciidamo ka tirsan xooga dalka somaliya iyo xasuuq loo geystey dad badan oo rayid ah anan waxba galabsan. Lama oga halkeey sal dhigan doonto xasarada kismaayo ka aloolsan laakin WOOBOOY LOOBA JOOGEY. Xafiiska Warqabadka ee Shabakada Carmooyin.com

Now what is this? and how has it happened? Who might be behind the operation? many unanswered questions... Could this latest attempt reinforce the notion that the defeated Mahkamadaha(and other groups) have very strong connections to the city of Kismayo...