Are we nomads being given false information about the real actions going on in kismayo, because both sides of these reports are biest on one hand the Col.Barre Hiiraale's sub-clan claims victory, on the other sides the Gen.Morgon sub-clan and minor sub-clans of Puntland mainly from Bari declares that they are still in the battle. Or is this just another brother rivalry (REPORTS CLAIM GALDUDUUD IS NEXT ON PUNTLANDS TARGET LIST MAINLY CABUDWAAQ)thats on cant admit the lost and one exaggerates about the gain after all their are lives being lost over a land that is all of Somalia's land.

horaaay adeer hirale. that is a leader and let's see what puntland can do about it.

I vote for the one man that can bring back the GLORY and CIVILAZATION that once existed from 1969-1990 the man who has always the flag of Somalia by he side and the honour of his ruling clan thats still holds the flag untill today for they have built the fenominon GLORY and CIVILAZATION our parents lived in and one day hope that we will live in! That man is Abdirixman Jamac Barre Do you want peace and glory or do you want another 14 years? YOU MAKE THE DECISION

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these ppl love faan come on they'll take any chance to brag about anything why else did they post the only poem uu togane faaniyay ?? i mean i read the rest he says stuff like mugdi mudug, and their clan being less noble then there counter parts in cabudwaaq and if i was you guys i would calm down the only people who should really be jumping up and down about this "great, a astonishing, great out spoken" mans word is the clan of riyalle oo uu amaanay sii ficaan now let them prance around horn next you'll see them in coffe shops say togane said this about us and that good bye S A D E

yea i came here throw google too damn but wat is up with all these new people ??its like everyone else is gone and wat about the adminstrators?? wat are they doing to fix this

SOMALIAONLINE HASNT BEEN WORKING FOR THE PAST THREE WEEKS IN THE USA I DONT KNOW IF ITS ELSEWHERE TOO?? THATS WHY THERE HASNT BEEN A LOT OF POST I GOT IN NOW BY GOING BACK TO OLD HISTORY AND THEN SIGNING ON "IT WORKED" BUT IS ISNT WORKING FOR MANY PEOPLE ALL IT SAY IS PLEASE BARE WITH US AND SOMETHING SO I JUST WANTED TO INFORM THE NOMADS IN THIS SITE

hey, where is honolato?? A freedom fighter and the wirter of Somaaliyaa Tosoo?? We should also remember Axmed guurey and sayiid cabdile hassan1

The Somaliland government should follow in the footsteps of Kenya and UAE on this issue and bann the passport of Somalia. Nobody should be allowed to enter Somaliland using a passport from Somalia, instead Somaliland should open an embassy in Mogadishu where special visas could be issued for Somalia citizens wishing to travel to Somaliland. Im not the person who is pleased to crush a little boi's dream but ina adeer Somali-land isn't a reconized government you guy's are still part of Somalia to the rest of the world.I mean i truely hope for you guys to be a state if that is what you please. I wanna ask you what your first language would be ??? Somali (waqoyi style) Under ethnicity what would the peole of Somali-land be?? Somali/ the clans of ....... and if i was to became a citizen in "Somli-land" could i became a citizen or do i have to be in one of the clans of Somali-land??? and why are you posting one side of the news in awdel.com

I heard some people from Abudwaq had some discussions about joining PL with Ina Yusuf when he was visiting London. The big reason behind this thinking was that xeraale fight was disaster for people from Abudwaq because other tribes united to defeat them and they didn't have anyone who can come to help them. LoL why would they ask to join when they blamed cabdulahi yusef for supplying the other tribes :confused: :confused: Puntland State of Puntland lol I thought puntland was a region don't tell me you guys wanna become an independent nation did somaliland make u jeolous???

Forged Somali passports are as easy to buy as bread in the Garissa Lodge market in the Kenyan capital, Nairobi. There is no authority to issue Somali passports - except in the markets Abdifatah Farah Yasin not only sells the passport but also "authenticates" it by putting a seal of the Somali ministry of foreign affairs and forging the signature of the last controller of passports before the break-up of the Somali state. Somalia has had no central government since 1991 and has been wracked by fighting between opposing warlords. "We are doing nothing wrong, we are just playing the role of a Somali government now that there isn't one in our country. Obviously there should be someone offering this service to Somalis," he said. He even offered to sell me a Somali diplomatic passport, for just $100. He said he would indicate in the passport that I was the Somali Ambassador to China or any other country of my choice. He said they are printed in Malaysia and then smuggled into Kenya, where they are sold to Somalis desperate to travel abroad. Free-for-all The ready availability of Somali passports has led to nationals of other countries opting to use it too. The Somali passport has been an attraction to ethnic Somali Kenyans, who can find it difficult to obtain a Kenyan passport. Much of Somalia is in ruins after years of fighting Other nationals who are known to have used the Somali passport include Ethiopians and Eritreans, who resemble Somalis. And this is why Kenya has announced that it will no longer respect Somali passports. The country has twice been hit by terror attacks. They fear that the easy availability of the Somali passport would make it possible for would-be attackers to operate freely within their country. But the ban has badly affected Somali traders, who travel to Kenya to buy their merchandise, often from Garissa Lodge in the Nairobi suburb of Eastleigh. At this market you can buy just about anything from modern electronic equipment to fake university degrees. Many traders in this market used their Somali passports to travel to Far East countries such as China, Thailand and Taiwan for their supply of commodities. Since the ban was announced, numbers at this previously busy market have sharply declined many stalls are now empty. (reported by hiiraan) maybe Abdifitaax Farah can make some passports for Riyaal and it can say on it he's a president of Somali-land for as little as 100 dollers! or even adeer Abdulahi Yusef so he won't be stoped at airports from now on? He can make say Puntlands president.

WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT NO Q ASKED ABUDWAQ IS PART OF PUNTLAND AND HAS BEEN PART OF PUNTLAND AS LONG AS I CAN REMEBER WELL FOR ONE IT IS IN MUDUG THAT'S PUNTLAND AND EVERY CITY IN MUDUG IS PUNTLAND lol I'm from cabudwaaq im one of those people that you said are "proud" of being part of puntland!! :confused: well just to let you in a secreat cabudwaaq is in GALGUDUUD and since im from cabduwaaq i can say that i woudn't be proud, even if we ever came apart of puntland which i doubt very much!! Libaax thats a good point! but how can adeer cabdullahi yusef get out of power when he was elcted Democratically :rolleyes: by the people of puntland over jamac ali jamac

tell me you are joking. Mobb is just stating some facts, don't feel flattered right away. wow mobb thanks for replaying the facts i didn't say its was false statements i just said "did MOBB found a sudden attraction to the sub-clan of Siyaad Bare (illahay haa oo naxristo) ?? ok :confused: P.S i doubt that the sub-clan would ever want to join puntland its actually amusing lol :confused: you can have goldgob and lascanood as your followers lol

But seriously i might have said it a hundred times, apart from the clan connection what else does abudwaq have in common with bari and nugaal, or indeed kismayoo that you guys are always talking about It has no connection with nugaal or bari but its connection with kismayo is that it's controlled by the same people who inhabit cabudwaaq! Adeer Bare Hiiralle

I would change your name into something decent before you'll be seen as a clannist/tribalist. lol clannist ??? aboowe let look at your name PUNTMAN?? i can atomatically know what you stand for wat your political beliefs everything you are and how do you know if my name isn't SADE??

Mobb such an interst in Siyaad Bare's (illahay haa oo naxristo ) sub-clan shall we say two posts about them :rolleyes: wow don't tell me you have found some kind of attraction toward them :confused:

On a forum maybe a topic On a topic maybe a post On a post maybe a point In that a point a way of thinking The way of thinking smells to high heaven. nice riddel now why u cant wite a kacan song?? since ur memrize them! A man who has been neglected wants wat every other man has power,success, and love but the neglected man had never seen the power success and love so when he sees the power he does not know wat to do with it he is confused he wants to be in power but he doesnt know how to use it ? jus like our fellow brothers in muqadishu

As you can see we have extremists from all corners lol wow horn an extremist??? thats kind of harsh i rather call my self reality teller! yea damn right i was forced to sings songs to a military coup that turned in to a "revolution". amazing liq wow a man who comes to power by a coup and holds that tittle for 21 years is better then a group of people that control captiol hill and have not done on thing to re-stablize the country after the fall of the "dictator" and still wish to occupy it! never seen such embrassment! ceeb calayk mad :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Man i was forced to memorise wow horn you read my quote and you passed right by liq's don't tell me horn you were forced to memorize the songs to?? Is that called for bro? im just stating the facts im showing that we were each forced to do something im actually trying make him feel equal as if he wasnt the only foreced on im not trying to neglect him ok?? Sadeboi and I are still waiting for some beautiful lyrics of Somali patriotic songs. I want to sing them in the shower, so please hurry. yea i have no songs to sing in the bathroom but i think mullah would like it better if it was oh puntland tosoo tosoo isku tiirsadaye adeer cabduallhi oo jogo miya jeesankarna adeer macano adeer macano waan kuu jecelnahay oh puntland tosoo tosoo isku imaday adeer baa jooga

Man i was forced to memorise songs to oktobar...bring them so why arent u reciting any of them??? yea and i was forced to leave my villa thnx to adeer cideed

I'm an abaayo, gabadh, a lady ok mybet abaayo my dear nomads i jsut wanted ta mention that ahmed guray was not somali he was ethiopian :confused: I think his mother was Somali, at least that's what I've heard. She was from the largest clan of West Somalia :confused: I was told thatAhmed Gurey was an Arab that was married to the duaghter of one the Sultans wow ahmed guurey must have been a multi-african racial (if there is such a thing)guy the real thing is ahmed gurey was a somali and not only that he was SADE who grew up in west somalia ! by rahima our people are touchy about the topic and therefore we should try to avoid it at all costs. we should avoid it ??? :confused: aboowe/abayoo (i made a mistake last time with ameenah) how are we ever going get over anything if we had our feeling and thought about our problems by hiding our problems we arent getting anywhere, unless we put it out on the open and discuss our issues i think as somalis are civilized enough to sit down sip a little qaxwo and talk over our problems

I want to learn all the somali patriotic songs so if u know some please do share! i know some but i dont know if they are all said right! SOMALIA TOSOO somlia tosoo tosoo isku tirsadaye hadba kii naa tagtaranaye taageera weligiinee calanyaho tilman waacan ba midbkago tankuyahoy xidgtan talinayse dexda kaga sitaale waxaan la ooyayaa ilamdu iga qubanaysaa nin dulkise la qado la adoonsada hayaee CLANKA LICIMAYO clanka licimayo licimayo clanka licimayo licimayo dib oo soxot lee goyadiso lodii mayso clanka lilahi boo ku joga dariiq ladooraye boo haye lixad boo kuu darta clanka licimayo licimayo DALANYARO daqajiye diiga daliin yerado dorwaaga dulkana kaa soo dixiyo intaa wirftaano warmaha dibsatan calolaha daansan kaa doba walal dowaqa somalia kuu darta walal "dowaqa siyaadna kuu darta walal" orginaly yo i might have messed someof them up but yea that's all i got if you got more show ur patriotism and write them

Why the plurals brother? I speak for me -not the entire SL population lol ok you but abowe when there are no other somalilanders in this debate that you are speaking for the somalilanders on your behalf for there is no other somalilanders view in here which means your are a repersentative for them in this topic!! but its koo!! The Somali (including my own) 'governments' have all demonstrated that they are not interested in supporting the people of Og.adenia hmm abowe i dont know if u noticed this but a little brief of reality is that somaliland is the only region that is seeking to get independence and further its self from somalia or what is left of somalia but anywaz the topic is about ******ia and inshalla ******ia will be free and we will fight with u when we the somalis who have a country unite and become one! but know since we are killing eachother how can we help our brother???? ceeb caylak we are the same ppl who speak the same language who have the same religon when we couldnt find anything else to fight about we fought over our gggggggggggggggggggggggreat grandfathers names??? we are all somalis damn! ina adeer listen yeh, my granduncle is one of the first guys who had the balls to stand up against Afweyne thuglord, so don't piss me off mate! sadeboi, maybe I should change my nick into kablalaboi now everyone knows wich tribe I belong too lol. lol man wow you are one lucky guy to be related to "freedom fighter " wow i wish i had the honor to be related to col.yusef too damn! my tribe mite be all out there but see i haven' said one thing to show i ama MX or even faaniyo my qabil i have not yet said my adeer was the greatest or nothing like im might how ever put my qabil out there but i doubt that if my name wasnt that you would've not known wat i was and its KABLALAX

Soomaaliyeey toosoo, toosoo isku tirsadaye, hadbakiin naa taageeranay, taageera waligiinee, calanyaho tilman wacan baa midbkagu tankoyahoy, xidigtan talinaysa dexda kaaga sitalay,Waxaan la oooyayaa ilamdu ila qubanaysaa nin dulkisa lagaqato la adoonsadaan ahay' I'm more of a do it for your self (and your region) and forget the cheesy patriotic mantra type of Somali wow i thought since you guys were somalilanders that would mean you would leave somali's and thier polotics to them self or even somali patriotsim ! you know there actuallly some somalis left that one a somaliweyn !!!!! shhh but dont tell anyone! and somali will be untiedeven if lil togdheer and awdal and woqooyi galbeed leave the greater somailia!!! The war of 1976-1977 was the most massive one. Somalia had conquered and held West Somalia for a whole year till the USSR, Cuba and Yemen stepped up their support to our enemy. ina adeer lol how can get back ******ia or even all of somalia together when your uncle is get finacial aid from ethiopia and in return your uncle region is a base for the ethiopians which are "enslaving" your cousins??? The ******s

I want to know what was the reason for a peaceful, semi-wealthy,loving country to become a war-torn country??? Was it the past goverment's? Was it the people?? Or was it simply too much democracy? We as Somalian's were a role model to the independent nations of Africa, we were a hard working, loving people, who wanted a better place for themselves and their offsprings. We were trying to reunite all of SOMALIWYNE and become one, and now look instead or reuniting we are seprating more and more everyday. What was the cause of Somalia's destruction? Dont blame Adeer Siyaad Bare (illahay haa oo naxariisto) only think much deeper we can all blame one person for it makes us feel better and gets the guilt off of us. But i want you the somali students, youths, elders , and fellow Nomads to think further and ask yourself why are we in this tragic era? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: