That was a sucker punch I tell ya guys....almost fell of ma chair....but hmmm thats football for you. There good times and bad times for every team and I hope they try to get back in shape otherwise Chalsea we will have to kiss this one goodbye.....

Alla-Ubahne dont worry bro keep working hard and maybe just maybe you could get into the good grace of the so called unemployed.

Hmm well to tell you the truth we even created the internet...what is more popular than that huh?

Hey North ...you right bro The gooners are known for working very hard when they are down and almost out. I believe if we make it through this group, then I believe there is no stopping us and you are right we could be in the samis and how I would relish if we had atie with Barca. Hey Orgi hope you survived your sons redicule on the night and hope you feel much better now that we still have hope Lool North did you say hopeful he doesnt recover heheheh what is with the cursing dee

First of Im thinking of selfishness in both a positive out look and a negative one. Positive in that we all strive to be successful in whatever we put our minds to. However, what one strives for that could also be positive is when one tries to belittle another to a chieve a specific goal. A case in one would be the US elections where Bush calls Kerie weak interms of his decision making process just to get into the white house now that is positive selfishness in the Bush camp and Negative where Kerie is concerned. I suppose its the degree of selfishness and whoever it affects. Caaqil- Amothers bond to her child is selfish in that she needs her immortality guarantteed through her ofsprings and you could also conclude that her satisfaction and happiness of having asuccessful life would be in her mind. As for the child its all about survival like when its born, it comes out crying and the mother who knows better direct the baby to the breast for its survival. Viking wouldnt the level of sympathy and empathy be a selfish act in itself depending on the level of sympathy and empathy.

To be selfish means to look out for one's own interests, i.e. one's own life. To eat to support your life is selfish. To use one's mind in the pursuit of ones own happiness is selfish. One of the big paradoxes of human civilization is that we disparage selfishness even as we secretly embrace it as our most fundamental driving force. From the time we're young, we're taught that selfishness is bad and as we grow up, we're bombarded with the message that "giving" is better than receiving. The icons of morality are those who have selflessly given of themselves to others. The Self Purpose must be contrasted with "selfishness" which I think means concentrating too much on one's owns needs. Taken to an extreme, selfishness is the very apotheosis of evil. However, the reality is that we owe our very existence to our inherent drive to improve our own condition. We, as individuals are all in competition for a share of the earth's wealth. The more we get, the better, but the more satisfied we are, the less energy we're willing to expend to get more. When our very survival is in question, we are capable of almost anything. We exhibit virtues in direct proportion to what we can afford. If we're starving and find a wallet with money, our sense of honesty is different than if we're fairly well off. When we have a family to protect, the intensity of our selfishness increases. In reality, selfishness is one of those most consistent and useful of human attributes. It's the guiding force behind not only survival, but the degree of comfort in which you and your family live. It's the universal foundation upon which all human interaction is conducted. Selfishness is the basis for sincere generosity. People give to gain something in return, even if it's only the feeling of having supported a worthy cause. And, of course, selfishness is what underlies effective cooperation. The very existence of civilized society is a product of every individual's own self-interest.

Phewwww that was close....well another day of fighting to go....this way too uphill for the gooners....

Bashi looks like you have lit the fuse somehow *Big smile I don't think you get the balls to utter these remarks in the "Araweelo" section of the forum. The angry, frustrated, young singles in that neck of the wood know too much and got a lot to say about this issue. As for the fathers here is apiece I thought would help improve your relationship with ya children. show your child love Keep in mind that the first half of the reprimand described previously is the emotional side of it. You are letting your child know that you are angry at his behavior, not at him personally. Now, you must take a deep breath and calm down after that short pause. When you are ready to speak again, make sure to touch your child in a way that lets him know you are on his side. For the next 30 seconds, quietly tell your child the rest of the truth -- that he is a good person and that you love him. This part of the reprimand is the hardest thing a father will have to do because it requires a change in his own behavior. A good example of what to tell your child is, "Your behavior tonight was not good. But you are good! That's why I'm so upset. You're better than that kind of behavior, and I love you for the good person that you are." Then it's very important to give your child a hug to let him know that the reprimand is over. And remember, when it's over, it's over. Do not mention it again. Finally, remember this phrase next time you'd like to implement Rule #1 of Fatherhood: "The more children like themselves, the more they like to behave themselves." This simple truth never fails to work. Rule #2: Use Praise Now, it is one thing to take action when your children misbehave, but it's even worse not to take any action when they do behave. When you do nothing to recognize your child's good behavior, he will start feeling neglected and will begin to misbehave again, but this time he will do it to get your full attention. After you start implementing Rule #1, you must also begin implementing Rule #2: praising good behavior. Start paying more attention to what your child is doing right, and praise him for it with a simple hug. Make your child feel like he's a winner in your eyes, and this will lead to more self-confidence and self-esteem. In return, not only will he feel better about himself, but you will also feel closer and more loving towards him. Rule #3: Use Goals Now that we've looked at both the consequences of reprimands and praises for your child, the next step is to realize that your child is a human being who will eventually, one day, want to accomplish important things in his lifetime. Goal setting is the next step of being a good father. You need to teach your child how to effectively set realistic goals. This can be as simple as asking what he'd like to do over the weekend with his friends, to what he'd like to be when he grows up. Make sure that your child writes his goals down all the time and takes a minute to read them over. Then, remind him if his current behavior matches his goals. If not, then he'll have to adapt. That's it my friends. Yes, I'm done. 3 steps are all you need to become a better father. 3 steps and a new way of thinking. Becoming a better father is not a one-way street. You must begin to realize that you will also have to change in order to see positive results with your child and with your whole family as well

Wooow agoooner dad and achalsea son now thats what I call anightmare combination esp since the two happen to be playing tonight and are on top. So who is gonna watch what or are simply going to dictate tonight

Why take a sports bag when you can resolve it ahem.... at you know where shhhhhhhhhhh.I never told you anything by the way aheeeem,ahee aheeem ...... Hmmm wonder if Ngonge got that Bro Ngonge you what happens when wrongs are not corrected. Yes we do know that alot of the fathers havent done right by their kids and alot too have abandoned their kids too. However, there are alot more dotting fathers who make sure his children prove to be the best in whatever they do. The pundulum in mostly mostly falls towards the bad fathers and thats what is given the focus of attention. I believe we should always have abalanced discussion on issues concerning both men and women than generalise which is aweakness alot of our bros and sisters tends to have.... Orgi wanna share the secret of bliss that u call sssshhhhhhhh..... :confused:

So Orgi...how about a prediction for tnights game? I say 3-1 to the gooners

Its true that in the public domain we are portraid as Loosers and a people who have no ambition are blood suckers by our very own folks. I feel that other people issues regarding lifestyles and what happens in this world. However, we are far too busy hating and making sure we become the laughing stalk of the century. So far the image looks set to get worse by the min and the loosers of it all are the same people who sing songs of hate.

Well Orgi what can I say bro......49 games n no zeet from any other team. Come to think of it, no other team could accomplish it in the next two centuries and Im glad I witnessed history being made.... Oh yes we are learning and this time it could turn out for the best.

Make or break .....for ma Goooners....dammit I have never been so uncertain like Iam today. Northener is pretty much looking forward to us being whacked...lol

Remember the likes of Sampdoria and Florientina? Now we got teams that we have never heard. I actually liked Chievo but lately havent seen them play but they were underdogs and giant killers at that time. I used to enjoy their encounters with the likes of milan and others.....quite exciting. You are right La league is up there with the best and as for the premier, I would say the likes of Middlesboroug, villa and ofcouse Everton have narrowed the gap immensily.

Your right there Orgi......I have never seen any white folks who go out on alimb to help their parents in the manner that somalis do. Besides its not only that but the children can stay home for as long as they want or get married without any pressures of being asked to leave at 18. So you see we are very generous and charitable in our own way.

You are right Viking though the fact remains that what the Italians where capable afew years ago was more than what they are accomplishing now. If you look at their leagues compared to others like spain and premier, there isnt much excitement about their form and only the main two or three (AC, Juve and Inter) tend to qualify for the championships. So its more dominated by the upper three or 4 clubs than what used to be afair league interms of skill and ofcouse financial distribution.

I hope we realize that by demeaning our men/dads/father figures we're also humiliating ourselves (vice versa). Kruella sis you are nowhere near kruell and certainly very smart to have that point of view. Our men and women folk have to be respected regardless and every community throught out the world has the bad, good and ugly but they dont advertise their laundry and negativity like our community does. We tend to trample on our men and their negativity wont only reflect on them but to the wider community we belong men women and kids....

Hilarious ...... There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full Kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America.

Much Ado about waxba Wasnt that a book or movie?

Any news of those technical Italians, any at all? I’ve stopped following them ever since Channel 4 lost their rights (don’t think I’ve missed much either). Absolutely ever since gazzeta lost its rights, the Italians havent had the same shine. The leagues has plunged from being one of the best in the world to amediocre one. As for Real, I would say it needs an overhaul of the team who happen to have grown into premadonnas rather than prolific footballers and a strong manager who can take on the director himself who happens to meddle in team affairs. Barca looks hot and any team that comes across them would have to contend with Ronaldhino the samba king.

Somehow I believe he wants his job of achieving asecure Somalia to be done by foreign troops as he has no other means. Yesterday he was inviting foreign troops. Today its terrorists.....now if you are willing to kill law abiding folks who dont want your leadership by calling them terrorists then surely when in power what would happen?

was i too harsh.....4 ur delicate sensibilities.... Do I look like Iam the topic of discusion! :rolleyes: Common now be sensible and try to tackle the topic instead...or else I maybe forced to sit you down and explain it to you word by word....

It looks like a can of worms has suddenly been opened by our community. The reppercusions of living in a circular society using the laws to cheat and destroy families. Recently I had the chance to accompany to court who had some major problems. The lady in question was taken to court by her own ten yr daughter who wanted out. The problem was she was married to one mali man but were devorced n ended up marrying another guy who was of west indies origin. The later too had ababy gal but this particular gal was surrounded by her dads family who workin round the clock to make sure she never ended up in ahome while the somali one was abandoned by her dad who didnt appear on the day and that was the final session. So the lil gal who didnt want to live with her mom n new man was abandoned by her dad too. Social services where looking for temp homes and the last I had was she was being taken to some Asian home. Now what this ten yr old doesnt know or understand is the abuse this lil kids get. Agood example being Victoria Columbie who was miserably murdered step by step by her relative. Now can imagine anyone careing about a somali kid? I felt so sorry for the lil one who I suppose was advised by her alcoholic father to do so as he teased her about mom being aforiegner etc n yet he himself wasnt there at the end of the day to protect her. Im sure the alot more stories to be told here but the fact remains alot of damage is taking place including alot of pple crying rape and others even having the audacity to call their parents child abusers.....suddenly we are getting into the nightmare scenario here.....give an ignorant person alighter and he may end up burning him/herself... :rolleyes: